Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2010-04-28

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02:22 Hyppolit svn: r11381 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11381
02:22 Hyppolit Adding thread tests to the test manifest
02:22 Hyppolit branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/
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02:26 Alias yo\
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03:25 waxhead howdy
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05:51 us8lander Have a question on installing debugger in Padre (real beginner!!)
05:51 us8lander Could anyone help?
05:51 waxhead us8lander, use the internal one.. it's better in as much as we have a debugger
05:51 waxhead nothing to install then
05:51 us8lander How do you use it?
05:52 us8lander meaning ... where is it?
05:52 waxhead what version are you running?
05:52 waxhead in the tool bar you will see {} with an arrow pointing into it.. click on that to run the debugger on the script
05:54 us8lander versio 0.41
05:55 waxhead us8lander, good grief!! that's old...
05:55 waxhead us8lander, can you upgrade to the latest?
05:55 us8lander hahaha -
05:56 waxhead it has the debugger in it... been there for a few releases.. still needs some work...
05:56 us8lander okay - I saw that there was some issue with 0.56 so downloaded 0.41 in case
05:56 us8lander sorry for the dumb question ....
05:57 us8lander but how do you install the tar files into padre
05:57 us8lander saw docs about ppm etc
05:57 us8lander I am a C++ guy so this is new to me
05:57 us8lander btw, am i supposed to put your name as first word to direct to you ?
06:00 Alias us8lander: If you do start with his name, then his chat client will flash at him even if it's in the background.
06:00 * Alias & # meeting
06:02 us8lander busy downloading 0.56
06:02 us8lander Got it - thanks
06:04 waxhead us8lander, cooking dinner... sorry.
06:05 waxhead what OS are you on?
06:06 us8lander waxhead, the magnificent XP
06:06 us8lander dripping with sarcasm
06:08 waxhead and what perl ?
06:08 waxhead strawberry or active state?
06:09 us8lander I just installed the strawberry with padre 0.56 installation
06:09 us8lander but I have active state as well
06:10 waxhead us8lander, cool.. well, to get the latest, using strawberry perl, you can use the cpan client, which if you tell it to install Padre will install the latest... and generally resolve all needed deps
06:11 us8lander I was looking for a GUI editor and debugger - as I had been using command line Activeperl 5.10.1
06:11 us8lander waxhead - cool
06:12 us8lander waxhead, does ActivePerl only support command line?
06:16 waxhead us8lander, how do you mean?  ActivePerl and Strawberry are essentially distributions of perl for win32
06:17 waxhead each has it's strengths... strawberry perl gives "unix" people as close to what they are used as as anything... ie you get a build environment that lets you use the cpan client to download/build and install modules
06:17 waxhead active state does it differently with PPM in that the binaries when you need them are already pre-compiled and in a repo that you down load from
06:17 waxhead I haven't used activestate in a long time now
06:18 waxhead strawberry is my preferred install for perl on win32, and then it's just using cpan to install what ever I need
06:18 waxhead when you write perl, you need the perl interpreter to do it's thing, which is just an exe...
06:19 waxhead so in essence it is commandline based...
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06:19 waxhead what Padre gives you though is a GUI editor written on perl - for perl..
06:19 us8lander waxhead, I am going through the changes on the website for standalone windows problem
06:19 us8lander okay - that means I came to the right conclusion in wanting to installing padre
06:20 waxhead it has the sort of things you'd expect, continuous syntax checking, syntax highlighting etc etc
06:20 waxhead run a script inside of Padre
06:21 waxhead prior to Padre, I used to use notepad++ to do perl.. the syntax highlighting was all I needed. but you end up, write/save/run/debug/write/save/run/debug
06:21 waxhead whereas with Padre, as you write you get a lot of info helping close the error loop somewhat.
06:21 us8lander exactly ... love the syntax highlighting
06:21 waxhead and if you want to, hit F5 and run your script interally
06:21 us8lander I need the debug functions
06:21 us8lander yeah - it runs well
06:21 waxhead us8lander, that is still one of the weaknesses at the moment...
06:21 us8lander i just have to put watches on variables etc
06:22 waxhead the debugger does work.. but i'm not sure how polished it is.
06:22 waxhead that't he thing with open source stuff, people work on the things they like or want to work on..
06:23 waxhead things like the debugger are hard, and needs someone miffed enough with the state of things to work on it...
06:23 waxhead you know, scratching that itch...
06:24 us8lander yeah - understand
06:24 us8lander I worked a lot with Latex over the years, and that was the same way
06:24 us8lander are you on a Windows platform?
06:25 waxhead us8lander, not at the moment...
06:25 waxhead ubuntu...
06:25 waxhead but when I do the releases I test them on vista and ubuntu
06:25 waxhead us8lander, is it working?
06:26 us8lander waxhead, no ...
06:26 us8lander padre doesn't open up
06:26 waxhead any errors?
06:26 us8lander nothing
06:26 waxhead how are you starting it?
06:27 us8lander windows menu
06:27 waxhead right...
06:27 waxhead open a command prompt and type in padre
06:27 us8lander ok
06:28 us8lander i am going to reinstall ...
06:28 us8lander I was running the steps on the site
06:28 us8lander which deletes a bunch of files
06:28 us8lander and it wouldn't let me rebuild
06:29 waxhead hmmm..
06:29 waxhead ok.. what to try with the cpan client?
06:29 waxhead when you say uninstall.. uninstall what?  Strawberry + Padre?
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06:29 us8lander I was downloading the zip file 0.56
06:30 us8lander i can try cpan client
06:30 waxhead is strawberry your current perl?
06:30 waxhead perl --version should give you an idea
06:30 us8lander I have ActivePerl installed too
06:31 waxhead us8lander, hmm... any reason to have both installed?
06:31 us8lander it says activestate
06:31 us8lander no ... I can uninstall that version
06:31 waxhead cool..
06:32 waxhead not that I have anything against activestate perl here.. it's just that if you want to use the full power of perl, then cpan is part of that.  to get the ful use of the cpan, strawberry perl on win32 is the answer
06:32 waxhead what you want is to end up with strawberry perl installed and your 'default' perl
06:32 waxhead then when you're there, start the cpan client.
06:32 us8lander waxhead, will absolutely take your recommendation
06:32 waxhead for the most part you can just answer all the questions, but I think the strawberry cpan client does it all for you
06:33 waxhead once you have the cpan client running just type install Padre
06:33 waxhead it will then run off and handle the deps for you.. you just have to answer yes when you're asked.. but check what gets added... it's quite impressive!
06:33 us8lander ok - off it goes
06:33 us8lander nice
06:34 us8lander do I need to uninstall activestate?
06:34 waxhead only if it gets in the way....
06:34 us8lander ok cool
06:34 us8lander oh
06:34 waxhead personally I'd rather only the one perl distro on my machine.. avoids confusing problems like "what perl is running my script"
06:34 us8lander can't install
06:34 waxhead active state?
06:35 us8lander maybe - let me ax it
06:35 waxhead now options from add/remove programes?
06:35 waxhead s/now/no/
06:35 us8lander you lost me
06:35 waxhead to remove active state
06:35 waxhead in add/remove programs in control panel
06:35 waxhead normally you can uninstall it there
06:36 us8lander yeah - off doing that now
06:36 us8lander while I am waiting ...
06:36 us8lander a huge thank you for your help
06:40 waxhead us8lander, no worries... I'll be in and out for a bit now.. have ti pick up a kid from hockey training and then finish dinner..
06:40 waxhead if you get stuck ask away.. someone might be able to respond in time
06:41 us8lander waxhead, cool thanks - you in Canada?
06:41 waxhead nope .au
06:41 us8lander ah - me in CA
06:41 us8lander so its field hockey
06:41 waxhead yeah, field hockey.. not ice..
06:44 us8lander nice - thanks again
06:48 us8lander anyone?  I am trying to install padre from CPAN client and getting the message "Cannot install padre, don't know what it is"
06:49 El_Che use a capital P
06:49 us8lander hahahaha - thank you!
06:50 us8lander geez
06:50 El_Che :)
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06:58 waxhead hey Steffen
06:58 Steffen hi.
06:58 Steffen I'm just passing by!
06:59 waxhead fear not...
06:59 waxhead :)
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10:36 Hyppolit svn: r11382 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11382
10:36 Hyppolit roll version , update changes.
10:36 Hyppolit trunk/IO-Socket-Multicast/ trunk/IO-Socket-Multicast/lib/IO/Socket/
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11:04 Hyppolit svn: r11383 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11383
11:04 Hyppolit better formatting of chat timestamps
11:04 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/l​ib/Padre/Plugin/Swarm/Wx/
11:09 Hyppolit svn: r11384 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11384
11:09 Hyppolit fix typo
11:09 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/l​ib/Padre/Plugin/Swarm/Wx/
11:25 submersible Any Plack users in the house ?
11:50 waxhead hey submersible
11:50 waxhead not me
11:51 submersible hi waxhead
11:52 waxhead how's things?
11:52 submersible pretty good generally. mum and baby have the sniffles
11:52 submersible which is no fun
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11:53 waxhead nope...
11:53 waxhead not at alll
12:03 Hyppolit svn: r11385 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11385
12:03 Hyppolit Remove old dialog code.
12:03 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-SQL/lib/Padre/Plugin/SQL/
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12:17 Hyppolit svn: r11386 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11386
12:17 Hyppolit Better handling when dialog is not filled out.
12:17 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-SQL/lib/Padre/Plugin/SQL/
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12:41 Hyppolit svn: r11387 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11387
12:41 Hyppolit more checks and clean up.
12:41 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-SQL/lib/Padre/Plugin/SQL/
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14:27 Hyppolit svn: r11388 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11388
14:27 Hyppolit Syncing
14:27 Hyppolit branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/lib/ branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/lib/Padre/ branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/lib/Padre/Wx/
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17:03 Hyppolit svn: r11389 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11389
17:03 Hyppolit This is a test of doing a change without a checkout
17:03 Hyppolit branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/t/threads/
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