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Hyppolit |
svn: r11391 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11391 |
| 01:17 |
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Hyppolit |
Integrated Task2 Manager into the constructor and startup/shutdown loops enough to pass tests (but for some reason dev.pl crashes) |
| 01:17 |
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Hyppolit |
branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/ branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/lib/ branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/lib/Padre/ branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/lib/Padre/Wx/ branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/t/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11392 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11392 |
| 02:10 |
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Hyppolit |
Padre::Util::share now supports dev.pl launch properly in cases where someone has branched only the main Padre distribution, and not the entire trunk. |
| 02:10 |
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Hyppolit |
branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/lib/Padre/ |
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gm |
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Sno| |
moin moin |
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| 11:35 |
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waxhead |
oh cool... |
| 11:36 |
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waxhead |
upgrade ubuntu to lucid and now padre is broken... |
| 11:39 |
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szabgab |
do you also have local::lib ? |
| 11:39 |
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waxhead |
don't know |
| 11:39 |
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waxhead |
I've been installing/upgrading using the cpan client |
| 11:39 |
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szabgab |
have you installed stuff with CPAN? |
| 11:40 |
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waxhead |
which is why I suspect things are now broken with the upgrade :) |
| 11:40 |
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szabgab |
and have you installed them into the directories of root or in a private directory? |
| 11:40 |
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waxhead |
it's ok.. I'll see what it takes to get things working again |
| 11:40 |
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waxhead |
installed and su |
| 11:40 |
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waxhead |
ed to to installed |
| 11:40 |
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szabgab |
yeah I don't do that |
| 11:41 |
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szabgab |
I use local::lib to install everything in a private directory |
| 11:41 |
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szabgab |
and then at the upgrade I can wipe out that directory and install anything new I need |
| 11:41 |
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waxhead |
oh.. |
| 11:41 |
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szabgab |
as there might be binary compatibility issues |
| 11:41 |
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waxhead |
I guess if oyu know such trickes |
| 11:42 |
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waxhead |
yike.. I should stop typing :) |
| 11:42 |
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szabgab |
I learned them in the hard way |
| 11:43 |
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waxhead |
blog about how to use it for padre |
| 11:43 |
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waxhead |
or put it on the web site |
| 11:44 |
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waxhead |
not sure if I like the new theme... bit too dark |
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kthakore |
hi Alias_ |
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Alias_ |
\o |
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| 12:11 |
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zenog |
One question about the debugging in Padre: Why is there this "show value now" thing? Can it do anything that "display variable" doesn't do? |
| 12:12 |
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Alias_ |
Show a value, instead of just a variable? |
| 12:12 |
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Alias_ |
Where "value" is any arbitrary expression? |
| 12:13 |
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zenog |
For that there is "evaluate expression", I guess. |
| 12:13 |
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Alias_ |
Sorry, rephrase |
| 12:13 |
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zenog |
... which seems to be broken, at least here ... |
| 12:13 |
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Alias_ |
value does whatever is highlighter |
| 12:13 |
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Alias_ |
highlighted |
| 12:15 |
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zenog |
ah okay ... a bit confusing ... |
| 12:15 |
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Alias_ |
I didn't write it :) |
| 12:16 |
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Alias_ |
Debugger is absolutely in the "first shitty implementation" state |
| 12:16 |
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Alias_ |
We like to encourage these, so then we know what the second awesome version should look like, and in the mean time we've got enough of an implementation for the people that really need it |
| 12:16 |
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zenog |
Also, refactoring recognizes when the cursor is on a variable, there is no need to select it explicitly. The debugger needs selection for "display variable" and "show variable now". |
| 12:16 |
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zenog |
okay |
| 12:17 |
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Alias_ |
Do you have commit yet? :) |
| 12:17 |
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Alias_ |
That can be arranged |
| 12:18 |
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szabgab |
zenog, I think I even added a comment in the code that the variable selection should use the one we already have |
| 12:18 |
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zenog |
I'll have a look at it. |
| 12:18 |
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szabgab |
Evaluate expression allows you type in anything |
| 12:19 |
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szabgab |
I think |
| 12:19 |
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szabgab |
Display value adds it to the right side to be always visible |
| 12:19 |
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szabgab |
Show value now show the value of the selected variable |
| 12:20 |
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zenog |
szabgab: So we could rename "display variable" to "watch variable" to express the "always visible" thing? |
| 12:21 |
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szabgab |
we could but "watch" means something else in the perl debugger |
| 12:21 |
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szabgab |
and I did not know what to do |
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submersible |
hi padrites |
| 12:23 |
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zenog |
Hi submersible, hi Corion |
| 12:24 |
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Corion |
Hi :) |
| 12:24 |
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zenog |
szabgab: Hm, I don't have a good suggestion now ... |
| 12:24 |
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Corion |
I'm now implementing an "Explorer" like file transfer program. When it's done, the underlying functions can be used for Padre remote editing :)) |
| 12:24 |
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submersible |
has anyone seen patspam recently? |
| 12:26 |
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zenog |
Corion: cool! |
| 12:27 |
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Corion |
Yeah - I hope I get it done far enough to be useful :) So far, I only do DAV, but once that's done, implementing SSH and (S)FTP should come easy. |
| 12:28 |
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Corion |
Hmm - maybe somebody here knows - what is the event to listen for when dragging from a ListCtrl? The Wx demos use EVT_LEFT_DOWN, which prevents selecting items |
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waxhead |
yeah.. would be handy if patsam was around |
| 12:40 |
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waxhead |
I have a question about the 'bottom' thing he did... |
| 12:40 |
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waxhead |
in the mean time i'm busy upgrading all my ubuntu based systems... |
| 12:41 |
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waxhead |
the SQL thing I've been working on no longer works and I can't see why.. |
| 12:42 |
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zenog |
_get_current_symbol is currently a private function (not method) in Padre::Document::Perl - is there preferred way of making it publicly accessible, or shall I just go ahead? |
| 12:43 |
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szabgab |
why do we need that publci? |
| 12:43 |
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zenog |
szabgab: Because it would be useful in the Debugger code as well. |
| 12:44 |
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Corion |
szabgab: Thanks for writing Padre - I've stolen lots of good ideas from it :) |
| 12:44 |
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zenog |
szabgab: The refactoring code does not need it, because the refactoring is implemented in Document::Perl |
| 12:44 |
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szabgab |
then you'll need to rename it to not have _ at the front - just for the convention |
| 12:44 |
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zenog |
szabgab: sure. |
| 12:44 |
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szabgab |
Corion, you are welcom, though I am sure those were not my ideas |
| 12:47 |
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zenog |
szabgab: Another thing: The debugging is stuff is also Perl-specific, so maybe it should also go into Document::Perl? Then every other document type could also support debugging ... at least theoretically, don't know which other infrastructure parts are missing. |
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zenog |
szabgab: OTOH, Document::Perl already contains _a_lot of things. |
| 12:48 |
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szabgab |
I would not move it yet |
| 12:48 |
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szabgab |
only of someone really wants to work on a debugger for some other language |
| 12:48 |
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szabgab |
maybe for XML |
| 12:48 |
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zenog |
szabgab: Okay. I feel safer doing less modifications anyway ;-) |
| 12:49 |
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submersible |
corion: EVT_LIST_BEGIN_DRAG(id, func) http://docs.wxwidgets.org/stab[…]x_wxlistctrl.html |
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Corion |
submersible: Thanks! That doesn|t seem to fire for me, but I'll test again |
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submersible |
u may need to instance a _draggable_ listctrl? |
| 12:50 |
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Corion |
Ah - duh, that might be it :) |
| 12:51 |
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submersible |
but i see nothing in the style flags about that |
| 12:51 |
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Corion |
Me neither |
| 12:52 |
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submersible |
try wxLC_REPORT vs wxLC_LIST |
| 12:52 |
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Corion |
I'm already using wxLC_REPORT , as I'm building something like the Windows Explorer |
| 12:53 |
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Corion |
But I might need to try wxLC_LIST ... |
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Corion |
Ah - no, I'm using nothing ( == wxLC_LIST ) , I'll try with wxLC_REPORT (but I don't want LC_REPORT :) ) |
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submersible |
it is possible that if you ->Skip the event then wx will not select/hilight the row |
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Corion |
Duh - no, it was trivial - EVT_LIST_BEGIN_DRAG needs ($self, $self, $callback) , not ($self, $callback) :-} |
| 12:56 |
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Corion |
Thanks and sorry :) |
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zenog |
hi again |
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waxhead |
howdy |
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zenog |
szabgab: Is it okay if I add some additional behavior to get_value in Debug::Client? |
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szabgab |
zenog, enjoy |
| 13:44 |
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zenog |
szabgab: Like, if the variable is an array, return a string containing the length and the first three elements ... |
| 13:44 |
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zenog |
szabgab: Nothing definitive, of course ;-) |
| 13:45 |
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szabgab |
I thought I'd rather keep the Debug::Client simple interface to the built in debugger |
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szabgab |
and move the cleverness to the user |
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szabgab |
but I can see a value in only fetching some of the values from a large array on the other side |
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zenog |
szabgab: Very neat would of course be a GUI for exploring complex data structures, but this may be overkill for now ;-) |
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Corion |
nkh wrote something like that for Gtk I think - Data::TreeDumper (::GTK , ::ASCII and ::DHTML ) - maybe writing ::Wx isn't that hard |
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zenog |
I think I need some more time to think about what's best here ... maybe on the weekend ... |
| 13:51 |
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zenog |
Corion: There is also this DataWalker plugin, maybe this could be connected to the debugger as well ... |
| 13:51 |
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zenog |
Let's see. I need to get back to my real work, some more things on the TODO list before tonight ... |
| 13:53 |
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zenog |
I am still exploring many things in Padre's source code, and every time a have a look at it I see new things ... |
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szabgab |
zenog, same with me :-) |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11393 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11393 |
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Hyppolit |
debugger: improved variable detection in the editor |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ |
| 14:11 |
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zenog |
Comments/suggestions about my commits are always welcome, I am willing to learn ;-) |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11394 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11394 |
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Hyppolit |
Initialise the second-generation task manager during startup at the same time as the first-generation one |
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Hyppolit |
branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/lib/Padre/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11395 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11395 |
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Hyppolit |
tidy |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ |
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Hyppolit |
#929: debugger: add watch under cursor (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]ket/929#comment:1 ] |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11396 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11396 |
| 14:40 |
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Hyppolit |
Menu: More consistent capitalization of menu entries |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Action/ |
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CSJewell |
FYI for Padre developers on Windows: Strawberry Perl 5.12.0.0 has finally been released. The 64-bit version may be painful as of yet (the release notes mention that a dev version of Wx must be used) but please do try, with both 32 and 64-bit, and see what works, please! |
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kthakore |
CSJewell: how do I upgrade strawbery without killing everything? |
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CSJewell |
kthakore: Give me 15 minutes. |
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kthakore |
CSJewell: oO ok |
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CSJewell |
kthakore: Had to go and do some stuff for my father. |
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kthakore |
oh ok np |
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kthakore |
CSJewell: I was in no rush |
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kthakore |
CSJewell: is you father ok? |
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kthakore |
your* |
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CSJewell |
He is. He just had me looking for stuff. A "major edition" (5.8 to 5.10 or 5.10 to 5.12) upgrade would require you to rebuild all XS modules anyway, but the 2010 editions leave the site directory alone when the second number is the same. |
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CSJewell |
They do wipe the site directory on major edition upgrades, because the p5p people don't guarantee binary compatibility when that digit changes. |
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CSJewell |
Does that answer your question? |
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CSJewell |
kthakore: ^^^ |
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kthakore |
yeah |
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kthakore |
:\ |
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kthakore |
ok |
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kthakore |
I will do it later |
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CSJewell |
s/don't guarantee/will break/ |
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CSJewell |
by the way. |
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kthakore |
ok |
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kthakore |
CSJewell: thanks |
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kthakore |
CSJewell: btw single and double player for FB works with straberry |
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CSJewell |
Nice! |
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kthakore |
CSJewell: go play it! http://github.com/kthakore/frozen-bubble |
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kthakore |
CSJewell: we need more testers for that |
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CSJewell |
I may do that later. After a Strawberry release, I tend to want to take a break from Perl for a day or two - for obvious reasons. It isn't a small job. |
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kthakore |
I'll bet |
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kthakore |
I am taking a break from S |
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kthakore |
SDL too |
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kthakore |
ok gtg get coffee |
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El_Che |
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Appli[…]nterprise-784919/ |
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szabgab |
and we are features in it! |
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szabgab |
and I am going to sleep now |
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