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zenog |
kthakore: If you consistently get this crash, please report it as a ticket, even if no-one else here can reproduce it; with complete version information (Perl, Wx, etc., see the About window ...) |
| 08:13 |
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zenog |
kthakore: For me, it does not crash when I hold the mouse down and press ctrl-c |
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zenog |
Hi Xaero |
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Xaero |
hiya |
| 09:24 |
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zenog |
I think I also have problems with "Search help" and F1, at least under certain circumstances. |
| 09:25 |
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zenog |
And I also have the crash on CPAN module installation from withing Padre. |
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waxhead |
evening all |
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zenog |
hi waxhead |
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waxhead |
zenog, busy with things I see... :) |
| 09:49 |
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* waxhead |
reads the logs at work when he has time |
| 09:49 |
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zenog |
waxhead: Just small things ... |
| 09:49 |
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waxhead |
zenog, all make a difference though! |
| 09:50 |
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zenog |
Yes, one step at a time, even if small, will make Padre better. |
| 09:50 |
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waxhead |
there's plenty of little things that need doing to improve Padre.. |
| 09:51 |
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waxhead |
trouble is, they are getting buried deeper and deeper in the internals |
| 10:22 |
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zenog |
lunch & |
| 11:18 |
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waxhead |
Xaero, so in the cpan client... have you tried a "simple" clean Alien::wxWidgets ? |
| 11:19 |
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Xaero |
what is "simple"? |
| 11:19 |
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Xaero |
this is what I did: |
| 11:20 |
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Xaero |
got strawberryperl5.12 zip file, extracted it to C:\strawberry |
| 11:20 |
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waxhead |
Xaero, why not the msi file? |
| 11:20 |
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Xaero |
coz i have active perl too |
| 11:20 |
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waxhead |
the msi file would make sure that any paths and env vars would be set right |
| 11:21 |
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Xaero |
I added them manually |
| 11:21 |
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waxhead |
Xaero, mixed setups a always going to cause you pain |
| 11:21 |
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waxhead |
specially with dlls' and stuff |
| 11:21 |
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waxhead |
so when you type perl --version what shows up? strawberry or activestate? |
| 11:22 |
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Xaero |
perl 5.12 |
| 11:22 |
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waxhead |
personally.. when you've having problems, simplify... remove any and all perls and get to a point where oyu know you only hvae one perl installed |
| 11:22 |
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Xaero |
do you want to see the env variables? |
| 11:22 |
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waxhead |
built by who? strawberry or activestate? |
| 11:23 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11425 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11425 |
| 11:23 |
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Hyppolit |
initial version of LaTeX - doesn't do anything yet except for buggy comment handling |
| 11:23 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-LaTeX/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-LaTeX/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-LaTeX/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-LaTeX/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-LaTeX/t/ |
| 11:23 |
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waxhead |
usally you'll see something int he --version output that tells you it's active state or strawberry |
| 11:23 |
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Xaero |
on my computer, i manually removed activeperl and replaced them with the strawberry paths as specified in the README |
| 11:24 |
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shadowpaste |
"Xaero" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "Env var" (1 line) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/43235 |
| 11:24 |
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Xaero |
evn variables ^ |
| 11:24 |
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Xaero |
*enviornment variabled (dunno the spelling) |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11426 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11426 |
| 11:24 |
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Hyppolit |
gettext-ified some messages |
| 11:24 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre-Plugin-SVN/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-SVN/lib/Padre/Plugin/ |
| 11:25 |
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Xaero |
after I did then first thing I did was to open the cpan shell cmd> "cpan" |
| 11:25 |
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Xaero |
install Alien::wxWidgets |
| 11:28 |
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Xaero |
it failed but because it was a huge process i missed a part of the log so then I followed the instructions from http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]oadStrawberryPerl |
| 11:29 |
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Xaero |
but since I have 5.12 installed did the second set on instructions: |
| 11:29 |
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Xaero |
cpan> look Alien::wxWidgets <- worked fine |
| 11:29 |
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Xaero |
$ perl Makefile.PL < worked fine |
| 11:30 |
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Xaero |
$ dmake <- didn't work http://paste.scsys.co.uk/43204 |
| 11:30 |
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Xaero |
so someone said i was supposed to tell CSJewell about it and I did |
| 11:31 |
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Xaero |
then you asked me about the installation.... |
| 11:34 |
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waxhead |
was curis able to give you any ideas? |
| 11:39 |
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Xaero |
nope, he went to bed |
| 11:40 |
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Xaero |
said he'll wake up and take a look at it |
| 11:45 |
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waxhead |
Xaero, well that's something I guess |
| 11:46 |
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Xaero |
i was able to install Win32::Console from the cpan shell so it does work |
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waxhead |
what's that? building modules? |
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waxhead |
do yo have all the deps installed for wx to build? |
| 11:47 |
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waxhead |
when you look and do a perl Makefile.PL, are there any missing dependacies? |
| 11:47 |
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Xaero |
i don't think so, alien wxwidgets is the first one i tried |
| 11:47 |
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waxhead |
I seem to recall there are a few |
| 11:47 |
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Xaero |
lemme check |
| 11:47 |
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waxhead |
look again |
| 11:47 |
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waxhead |
do a make clean |
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waxhead |
or dmake clean |
| 11:48 |
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waxhead |
then run perl Makefile.PL |
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waxhead |
and see what's missing, if anything |
| 11:49 |
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Xaero |
ok will try that in a while |
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Xaero |
brb |
| 11:50 |
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waxhead |
ok |
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Xaero |
on second thought I do it right now |
| 11:51 |
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Xaero |
...while you are here :P |
| 11:53 |
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waxhead |
ok |
| 11:55 |
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waxhead |
I'm around.. trying to get something else working.. so in and out |
| 11:56 |
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Xaero |
should i do make clean, dmake clean or gmake clean? |
| 12:08 |
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waxhead |
dmake clean |
| 12:09 |
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waxhead |
that's what comes with strawberry |
| 12:10 |
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Xaero |
but you see that error in http://paste.scsys.co.uk/43204? |
| 12:10 |
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Xaero |
it says gmake :S |
| 12:12 |
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Xaero |
ok I did dmake clean anyway, it says: |
| 12:12 |
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Xaero |
dmake: Error: -- Don't know how to make `clean' |
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waxhead |
Xaero, that's fine.. just means there's no make file |
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waxhead |
so now do dmake |
| 12:13 |
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waxhead |
hang on... |
| 12:13 |
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waxhead |
perl Makefile.PL |
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waxhead |
actually.. is it a make file or build.pl? |
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Xaero |
dunno if it's important but last time I ran this i created a folder C:\strawberry\cpan\build\Alien-wxWidgets-0.51-SbckqQ |
| 12:14 |
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Xaero |
now when i did look it created C:\strawberry\cpan\build\Alien-wxWidgets-0.51-Uaca1j |
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waxhead |
dunno.. it shold all be self contained |
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waxhead |
likely just temp dirs |
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Xaero |
do you think a clean installation of perl will help? |
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waxhead |
Xaero, sure.. if you don't need activestate, then remove it, and clean install strawberry |
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Xaero |
i don't need activeperl if strawberry works |
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waxhead |
Xaero, strawberry works well... |
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waxhead |
been using it for a long time now... |
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Xaero |
i mean works for me, like installing stuff :D |
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jagd |
zenog: Hi |
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zenog |
hi jagd |
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Xaero |
is it not possible to install Alien wx widgets with "install" instead of look, makefile, dmake, .....? |
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daxim |
Xaero, Alien-wxWidgets comes with a Build.PL |
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daxim |
you should prefer to use that if both Build.PL and Makefile.PL are available |
| 12:43 |
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Xaero |
isn't it possible to just cpan> install Alien::wxWidgets and get it installed? |
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daxim |
you can configure the cpan client to observe this preference during automated installations: |
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daxim |
o conf prefer_installer MB |
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daxim |
Xaero, I do so (on Linux) and it gets installed without further manual steps |
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jagd |
zenog: i 've seen that you updated the Instruction for Gentoo. Are you using Gentoo? |
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zenog |
jagd: No, I just saw that it was out of date. |
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zenog |
jagd: God forbid, I have better things to do than compiling stuff all day ;-) |
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zenog |
Hi puosua |
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puosua |
Thanks omah reported the same 'help' and 'F1' issue and the solution. I installed PO2::Base and now 'help' and 'F1' work fine on my WinXP. |
| 12:57 |
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zenog |
I just saw that the help search is case sensitive. |
| 12:57 |
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zenog |
Wouldn't it be better case insensitive? |
| 12:58 |
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zenog |
Or rather, are there scenarios in which you definitely want case sensitivity? |
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zenog |
Right now, you don't find anything if you enter "Perl" or "padre". |
| 13:00 |
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zenog |
I am referring to "Help" and "Search Help", not to "Context Help". |
| 13:01 |
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zenog |
Another thing: Help also offers search functionality. Does it make sense to have a specific menu item "Search Help"? |
| 13:01 |
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puosua |
zenog: 'help' or 'F1' is not case sensitive. I can find help with either 'Perldoc' or 'perldoc' |
| 13:02 |
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puosua |
Solution to fix 'help' not working: http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/939 |
| 13:03 |
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puosua |
Couldn't development team add POD2::Base as prerequisite for Padre? |
| 13:05 |
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zenog |
puosua: (1) This could be a difference between Windows and Linux. |
| 13:05 |
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zenog |
puosua: (2) I think it is fixed in Subversion, and thus will be fixed in the next release. |
| 13:06 |
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zenog |
Makefile.PL contains the line "requires 'POD2::Base' => '0.043';" |
| 13:08 |
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zenog |
puosua: Was fixed in r11402 |
| 13:08 |
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Hyppolit |
Changeset #11402 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11402 |
| 13:16 |
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puosua |
Since I install Padre on WinXP using the official MSI package, I don't look into the source code. Good to see the POD2::Base dependency in included in the furture release. |
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szabgab |
I think making the help case insensitive would be good |
| 13:19 |
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szabgab |
we don't want to force educate the windows users :-) |
| 13:21 |
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zenog |
szabgab: Seems like it is not case insensitive on Windows ... but anyway, it's a small thing ;-) |
| 13:29 |
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puosua |
szabgab: It's a MUST to be always 'case sensitive' while writting any script, no matter which OS used. However, to 'search' information would be good to be 'case insensitive'. I personally cannot keep enough buffer in my brain to remember the keywords with uppercase or lowercase. If Google only provides 'case sensitive' searching, it's chaos. But it's great to keep it as optional filter.... |
| 13:29 |
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puosua |
...This is just my opinion. I'm happy to learn Perl with Padre udner Windows. |
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Xaero |
sorry i got disconnected |
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Xaero |
http://paste.scsys.co.uk/43240 |
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Xaero |
failed again same error as before it looks like but the build folder is a little larger than before |
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Xaero |
waxhead? |
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Xaero |
and sorry again I only have 2000 lines of buffer :( |
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sawyer__ |
hey |
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sawyer__ |
a few comments of Padre 0.60: when it is installs, it creates the .padre folder on the home user |
| 19:00 |
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sawyer__ |
but since you install under a privileged mode or user (different - hopefully - from your regular work), the folder will be created with the privileged ownership |
| 19:00 |
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sawyer__ |
that means that when padre tries to write the db, it fails since it's read only |
| 19:01 |
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szabgab |
we had this bug once, apparently someone created a new test that does this |
| 19:01 |
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sawyer__ |
i suggest creating it on first run instead of on install time |
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szabgab |
that does not set the PADRE_HOME variable during test |
| 19:04 |
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sawyer__ |
also, under Tools -> Preferences -> Highlighter, the description for PPI standard and PPI experimental are backwards |
| 19:05 |
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sawyer__ |
overall (and this is another comment i wanted to make), Padre really fucking impressed my students :) |
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szabgab |
thanks sawyer__ but this is supposed to be a child safe channel :-) |
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sawyer__ |
ah |
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sawyer__ |
*really freaking impressed... :) |
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PerlJam |
sawyer__: the hard part is the second 90% :) |
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