Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2010-05-08

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03:15 waxhead hells bells..
03:15 waxhead I have no idea why I do this to myself..
03:15 waxhead I should get back to coding if I'm going to put myself through this masocism...
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06:54 szabgab If anyone is awake on this channel, please take a look at the new poll I run and let me know if I have some major oversight:  http://bit.ly/99WCKQ
06:57 waxhead szabgab, grammar: allow should be allowed
06:57 waxhead oh.. allowed to
06:58 waxhead not allow to
06:58 szabgab why?
06:58 szabgab there are many cases of "allow" in the poll, all of them?
07:00 szabgab waxhead, ?
07:00 szabgab waxhead, "Allowed to telecommuting"
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07:25 waxhead szabgab, sorry.. no, not all
07:26 waxhead so Allow to use modern Perl tools (e.g. Moose)
07:26 waxhead should be Allowed to
07:34 szabgab but that would mean I am allowed to   not that the company allows  as in the other sentences
07:35 szabgab or am I mistaken?
07:36 szabgab but as I can see the statements are a mix of "I prefer" and what the company allow(s) and genral statements like "reasonable salary"
07:36 szabgab and there is also "you don't want..."
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10:29 Xaero \o/
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11:15 waxhead I wonder if htat means Xaero now has Padre installed on his box?
11:16 waxhead szabgab, OK, but it doesn't 'read right' to me...
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16:07 Xaero anyone there?
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16:41 kthakore Xaero: hi
16:41 kthakore Xaero: what up
16:41 Xaero hey
16:42 kthakore Xaero: whats up
16:42 Xaero just checking if any of the padre devels are around
16:42 kthakore Xaero: I only do some bugs reporting and some tiny fixes
16:42 kthakore Xaero: I spend most of my time here http://sdl.perl.org :)
16:43 Xaero cool, i am yet get my perl ide installed :P
16:43 Xaero long way before i could even start coding
16:43 Xaero i just want it so it's easier to learn
16:43 kthakore Xaero: right
16:44 kthakore Xaero: where are you stuck now?
16:44 Xaero same place
16:44 Xaero waxhead was asking me to try something..
16:44 Xaero or to try: "look Alien::wxWidgets" then "dmake clean" then "perl Makefile.PL" then "dmake" then it ended with-> dmake : Error code 130, while making 'all' (more details here: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/43240)
16:45 Xaero i was thinking about getting the newer version on perl, looks like this isn't going to work anytime soon anyway
16:45 Xaero v 5.12.0.1
16:47 kthakore Xaero: wait
16:47 kthakore Xaero: this is a problem with windows and WxWidgets
16:47 Xaero okies
16:47 kthakore not with perl
16:47 kthakore hold on
16:47 kthakore reading
16:48 kthakore hmm for some reason it is trying to do multibuild
16:48 kthakore Xaero: did you set any environment vars?
16:49 kthakore try this
16:50 kthakore dmake -f makefile.gcc all UNICODE=1 MSLU=0 BUILD=release SHARED=1
16:50 kthakore in Alien::WxWidgets build folder
16:50 shadowpaste "Xaero" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "Env vars" (1 line) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/43279
16:51 Xaero should I do dmake clean first? and is the PATH correct?
16:51 kthakore no
16:51 kthakore don't do the clean
16:52 Xaero ok
16:52 kthakore Xaero: we will sneak you past this step
16:52 kthakore ;)
16:52 Xaero k
16:52 Xaero dmake:  Error: -- File makefile.gcc not found
16:52 kthakore ARG
16:52 kthakore I know the problem!@
16:53 Xaero should it be makefile.pl?
16:53 kthakore Xaero: you have activestate installed too
16:53 kthakore or KOMODO
16:53 kthakore crap
16:53 kthakore ...
16:53 Xaero yeah komodo has to go too?
16:53 kthakore Xaero: I had serious problems with too
16:53 kthakore yeah ...
16:53 kthakore I had how I couldn't install both
16:53 kthakore :\
16:54 kthakore Xaero: yeah on my winxp 32 I had to remove all instances of active state
16:54 Xaero should I just remove it from path or uninstall it?
16:54 kthakore Xaero: I found that it fucked up my strawberry install
16:54 kthakore Xaero: try removing it from path
16:54 Xaero k
16:55 Xaero if i change path now then I have to restart the process right so that the shell can use the changed path variable?
16:55 kthakore yeah
16:55 kthakore and do a realclean
16:56 Xaero then I'll install the new version of perl also
16:56 Xaero coz this build folder is getting bigger and bigger and there's a lot of junk in it
16:58 Xaero just curious, on this page http://padre.perlide.org/trac​/wiki/DownloadStrawberryPerl, in the second part "On previous releases of Strawberry Perl 5.10...."
16:58 kthakore Xaero: ok but I had greater successin the 5.10
16:58 kthakore hold on lets see if I can get 5.12.1
16:58 Xaero why does it ask to do the cpan> look Alien::wxWidgets  $ perl Makefile.PL  $ dmake  $ dmake test  $ dmake install seperately?
16:58 kthakore I dunno
16:58 Xaero won't doing "install Alien::wxWidgets" do the same thing?
16:58 kthakore dunno
16:59 kthakore sorry
17:00 Xaero ok no probs, this will take some time to clean up install and compile, and I have some other stuff to do so I'll try this a little later
17:00 kthakore ok
17:00 kthakore just remove the $PATH and try now
17:00 kthakore first
17:00 kthakore Xaero: then you will know
17:01 Xaero the thing you asked me to try earlier said "dmake:  Error: -- File makefile.gcc not found"
17:02 Xaero I don't see a makefile.gcc in the folder either, is there something else I have to do before it?
17:03 kthakore no go into the build folder
17:03 kthakore what folders do you have there?
17:04 Xaero there are 9 folders, 2 of Alien::wxwidgets, 2 psh 1.8, spffy, test-base, test-differences, win32-console, wx-0.9702
17:05 kthakore go in Alien_WxWidgets
17:05 Xaero with some randome 6 letter sting at the end of each folders
17:05 kthakore yeah
17:05 kthakore where did you run the dmake
17:05 kthakore go there
17:06 Xaero yeah I see a "makefile" without extension
17:06 kthakore ok
17:07 kthakore ok do you see Makefile.PL
17:07 Xaero yeah
17:07 kthakore what is the name of the directories in here
17:07 kthakore a build_src ?
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17:08 shadowpaste "Xaero" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "dir listing" (26 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/43280
17:10 kthakore cd wxWidgets-2.8.10
17:10 kthakore Xaero: ^^ there
17:13 Xaero ok
17:21 kthakore Xaero: and?
17:22 Xaero huge list of files and folders.. you want a listing?
17:22 kthakore na
17:22 kthakore Xaero: just run that command I gave you
17:22 kthakore then cd .. && dmake install
17:23 Xaero run the command in this folder?
17:24 Xaero dmake:  Error: -- File makefile.gcc not found
17:24 kthakore god ..\
17:24 kthakore ok
17:24 kthakore can you do a search for it?\
17:24 Xaero i don't have a makefile.gcc only a makefile
17:25 kthakore dmake makefile
17:25 kthakore then
17:25 kthakore or just dmake
17:25 kthakore if not then gmake
17:25 Xaero run the command you gave me with -f makefile?
17:27 kthakore yeah
17:27 Xaero dmake:  Error code 130, while making 'all'
17:27 Xaero replace dmake with gmake?
17:27 Xaero in the same command?
17:28 kthakore sure
17:31 Xaero system: gmake -f makefile.gcc all  UNICODE=1 MSLU=0 BUILD=release SHARED=1: 512 at inc/My/Build/Win32.pm line 263
17:31 Xaero gmake: *** [all] Error 2
17:33 kthakore gaah
17:33 kthakore ok
17:33 kthakore yeah
17:33 kthakore you need to rebuild
17:33 Xaero eh?
17:33 kthakore sorry
17:33 Xaero np
17:33 Xaero thx for your time
17:33 kthakore Xaero: it just the linking are done incorrectly
17:33 kthakore it is a pin in the ass
17:33 kthakore hehe
17:33 kthakore pain
17:34 kthakore Xaero: yeah np
17:34 kthakore Xaero: I gtg now
17:34 Xaero sure cya
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19:07 CSJewell kthakore: Apparently something blipped. I know Xaero asked me why Alien::wxWidgets would not build for him. I just checked, and couldn't duplicate his error in a clean 32-bit SP 5.12.0.1 installation. (He was using 5.12.0.0, iirc.)
19:07 CSJewell (It installed fine for me.)
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20:49 kthakore CSJewell: cool ok
20:49 kthakore CSJewell: he had komodo installed on it
20:50 CSJewell That would confuse things.
20:50 kthakore CSJewell: if you are still around can I ask you a question?
20:50 kthakore CSJewell: I figured
20:50 kthakore CSJewell: did you guys test DBD::Oracle DBD::DB2 and the others for Strawberry ?
20:50 kthakore CSJewell: both these fail
20:51 kthakore CSJewell: I submitted a patch for DB2 (from kmx) but they won't take it
20:51 kthakore CSJewell: but Oracle? what to do about that?
20:52 kthakore CSJewell: any way so my question for Pro is will DBD stuff be patched?
20:58 CSJewell Have to run, OK? Will talk later.  But we couldn't include the libraries for those two, I don't think. Not open-source.
20:59 kthakore CSJewell: no I meant patches
20:59 kthakore ok bye
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22:17 Hyppolit svn: r11427 | perlpilot++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11427
22:17 Hyppolit [Vi] Mention Makefile.PL instead of Build.PL
22:17 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Vi/
22:17 Hyppolit svn: r11428 | perlpilot++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11428
22:17 Hyppolit [Vi] Add movement by paragraph
22:17 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Vi/lib/Padre/Plugin/Vi/
22:17 Hyppolit svn: r11429 | perlpilot++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11429
22:17 Hyppolit [Vi] Added move-to-the-end of a word
22:17 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Vi/lib/Padre/Plugin/Vi/
22:17 Hyppolit svn: r11430 | perlpilot++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11430
22:17 Hyppolit [Vi] Added 0 as move to beginning of line
22:17 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Vi/lib/Padre/Plugin/Vi/
22:17 Hyppolit svn: r11431 | perlpilot++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11431
22:17 Hyppolit [Vi] Added a few more editing functions
22:17 Hyppolit
22:17 Hyppolit cw - change word
22:17 Hyppolit c$ - change until the end of the current line
22:17 Hyppolit C  - same as above
22:17 Hyppolit D  - delete until the end of the current line
22:17 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Vi/lib/Padre/Plugin/Vi/
23:37 sjn \o
23:38 sjn This is a pretty neat editor feature: http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/04/30/if-yo​u-code-html-zen-coding-will-change-your-life/
23:38 sjn Soemthing for Padre? :)
23:40 sjn Seems to be made for plugging in into different editors
23:42 sjn </tired>
23:42 * sjn stops rambling and goes to bed

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