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szabgab |
waxhead, could you pls check the new wording on the poll? |
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szabgab |
http://bit.ly/99WCKQ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11432 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11432 |
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Hyppolit |
new poll added |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/perlide.org/ trunk/perlide.org/polls/ trunk/perlide.org/polls/the-most-important-features-of-an-employer-or-job-opportunity/ |
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waxhead |
szabgab, that's good |
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waxhead |
that's better even... |
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szabgab |
now I need to promote it and get 1000 or so people to answer :-) |
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waxhead |
woo hoo!! |
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Xaero |
\o/ |
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waxhead |
Xaero, hey.. did you get Padre working ? |
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Xaero |
xD no |
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waxhead |
bugger.. still?? |
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waxhead |
I see there's a new Wx been released recently... |
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Xaero |
do you think Komodo Edit could be a problem? |
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Xaero |
there's a new version of perl i know, so I'll try again with a new version of both |
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waxhead |
Xaero, doubt it... komodo edit would be written in c++ I'd say |
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Xaero |
komodo edit is written in python, but what if it was written in c++? |
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waxhead |
really? It's python?? |
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waxhead |
didn't know that! |
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Xaero |
yeah, there's a lot of python out there :( |
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waxhead |
there is... |
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waxhead |
dunno why... |
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waxhead |
not that I have done a lot with it, but I'm not a big fan of it.. |
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Xaero |
coz they make it look easy |
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waxhead |
seems that the python community is very active though, the Wx Docs I read are the python ones... |
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Xaero |
and there are tutorials and screencasts for python that even kids learn programming form |
| 07:37 |
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Xaero |
wxGlade is python, Visualwx uses some python both rad tools and both generate perl code :( |
| 07:38 |
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waxhead |
go figure... |
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Xaero |
it's a conspiracy |
| 07:40 |
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Xaero |
wxWidgets 2.8.11: A portable C++ and Python GUI toolkit (http://docs.wxwidgets.org/stab[…]wx_contents.html) |
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Xaero |
why? |
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Xaero |
there are wx bindings for so many different languages |
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Xaero |
wxperl wiki was spammed and destroyed |
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Xaero |
the http://www.perltk.org/ site only has the first page |
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Xaero |
believe me or not it's a conspiracy! |
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waxhead |
:) |
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Xaero |
perls stronghold is sysadmin and now they are writing books on python for sysadmins and they are saying python is a GLUE language! |
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Xaero |
we gotta do something |
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waxhead |
hey Steffen |
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waxhead |
seen Alias's work on the new threading code? |
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Steffen |
I saw it at one time. Not sure what he did since. |
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Steffen |
saw and strongly approved, that is. |
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Steffen |
I think that was the last major subsystem which I wrote that got rewritten. :) |
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Steffen |
Yet I'm pleased. For a learning experiment, it held out pretty well. |
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* Alias_ |
pokes Steffen |
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Alias_ |
If you get a chance, can you review Padre-TaskRewrite to discover why it's behaving wrongly? |
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Alias_ |
I sent an email I think |
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Alias_ |
All Wx events arrive only when the thread exits |
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Steffen |
I'll have to do my taxes today. |
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Steffen |
Ouch. |
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Steffen |
Taxes first, then programming. No promises, though. Forms make me want to go up the wall. |
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Alias_ |
Any time |
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Alias_ |
But I'm blocked till it's solved... |
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Alias_ |
Leaving for 1-2 week US trip in a few days, so no urgency at all |
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Steffen |
Also, don't expect magic from me. I haven't worked on this kind of stuff in a long time. |
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Alias_ |
Sure, but you are the next link in the expert chain |
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Alias_ |
And if you can't handle it, it goes onwards to Mattias or something |
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* Alias_ |
bed |
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Alias_ |
later |
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Steffen |
Alias, I just had a *quick* look and couldn't find an obvious problem. Also, all the normal background-tasks work as expected in the branch. |
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Steffen |
Alias: Hmm. Annoying. Is there a particular reason why PPI::Transform->apply takes a PPI::Document and not a PPI::Node? |
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Steffen |
Also annoying: $ppielem->insert_before($anotherelem) doesn't seem to work. |
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Steffen |
At least not in a find() callback. |
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Steffen |
Oooh. Is the second argument to the callback a clone of the element? |
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Steffen |
That would explain why in-place modification isn't reflected. |
| 12:45 |
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Hyppolit |
#947: [XML plugin] toggle comment only works 50% (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/947 ] |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11433 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11433 |
| 12:54 |
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Hyppolit |
fix toggle comment feature |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre-Plugin-LaTeX/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-LaTeX/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-LaTeX/lib/Padre/Plugin/ |
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zenog_ |
moin |
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zenog_ |
I would like to upload the LaTeX plugin to CPAN. |
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zenog_ |
Is there anything I have to be particularly careful with? |
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zenog_ |
Hi Xaero |
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Xaero |
\o/ |
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kthakore |
Xaero: worked? |
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Xaero |
didn't try it yet, I'm going to try it with the new version of perl in a while |
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kthakore |
ok |
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johaBBa |
hello. is anyone using padre on debian lenny? or centos 5.4/rhel 5.5? |
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szabgab |
johaBBa, probabaly |
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szabgab |
but they might not be around |
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szabgab |
I never know the names of Debian, which one is Lenny? |
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johaBBa |
it is the current stable. 5.0.x |
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johaBBa |
i just came from "My First Perl" course... |
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szabgab |
oh |
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johaBBa |
i have been using latest padre at home, but work only has debian stable and centos/redhaty |
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szabgab |
installation of Padre on older systems is not yet a piece of cake |
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johaBBa |
indeed. i have been trying for about 3 hours now. |
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szabgab |
I would use local::lib |
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szabgab |
but wait, is the system perl threaded there? |
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johaBBa |
i don't understand... |
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johaBBa |
on lenny i think it is yes |
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johaBBa |
i don't understand 'user local::lib' |
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szabgab |
let me check if we have instructions |
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johaBBa |
ok. :) |
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szabgab |
http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/DownloadUbuntu |
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szabgab |
but it is not beginner friendly either |
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johaBBa |
i'm not a linux or debian beginner. just a perl beginner...i'll take a look. |
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szabgab |
yeah, but you asked what is local::lib |
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johaBBa |
ah...yes. |
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szabgab |
and there we have just the name |
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szabgab |
now I added a link too |
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johaBBa |
sweet! |
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johaBBa |
i'll try that now |
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szabgab |
try those instructions "Installation from CPAN" |
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szabgab |
and let us know if you have any question, someone might be around to help you out and maybe even fix that page |
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szabgab |
I'll have to go soon |
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johaBBa |
will do. |
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johaBBa |
thanks for the help! |
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szabgab |
you are welcome |
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johaBBa |
so far http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/DownloadUbuntu is working for debian lenny. I am building/installing Wx from cpan now |
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johaBBa |
amd64 btw |
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Xaero |
good luck then |
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johaBBa |
bah. cpan Padre fails with Found wxWidgets 2.8.7. needs at least version 2.8.8 |
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johaBBa |
is there a way to get Padre one version back in cpan? |
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zenog_ |
johaBBa: Please tell us what you experience with Debian, so that we can update http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/DownloadDebian |
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Xaero |
are you installing wx or padre? |
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johaBBa |
Wx finished |
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zenog_ |
You can get the newest wxWidgets with cpan Alien::wxWidgets |
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johaBBa |
i'm using debian stable btw |
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Xaero |
2.8.10 |
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johaBBa |
i'll try cpan Alien::wxWidgets |
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johaBBa |
i was following the ubuntu steps and using local::lib without root access |
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Xaero |
crap, i'm am still getting the same error :( |
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zenog_ |
http://search.cpan.org/dist/Al[…]idgets/README.txt |
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johaBBa |
cpan Alien::wxWidgets says it am up to date |
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Xaero |
i remove activeperl and have a fresh install of strawberry |
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zenog_ |
johaBBa: I am not an expert on that, but maybe you could remove the wxWidgets installed by apt (at least the development files) |
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zenog_ |
Then Alien::wxWidgets should get the latest version and build it etc. |
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johaBBa |
ok. |
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zenog_ |
(again, this is just a guess) |
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johaBBa |
i'll try it. i think i am very close to getting it to work |
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Xaero |
lucky you :( |
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johaBBa |
worst case scenario i'll have to use 0.54 or something |
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shadowpaste |
"Xaero" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "Failed Alien::wxWidgets" (2150 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/43312 |
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Xaero |
it did say this at the beginning: Could not find or check module 'IPC::Run' [THIS MAY BE A PROBLEM!] at C:/strawberry/perl/lib/IPC/Cmd.pm line 124 |
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Xaero |
I need a break, bbiab |
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Steffen |
Xaero, indeed. Having IPC::Run is a win on win32. |
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Steffen |
Though 'm not sure how you arrived at your problem. |
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Steffen |
(And not in a position to help much with Windows issues, either.) |
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johaBBa |
ok...no debian stable wx* packages. deleted ~/perl5 and ~/.cpan. i'll start again. |
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zenog_ |
& |
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Xaero |
who is the strawberry wiz? |
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Xaero |
strawberry comes with IPC::Run3, installing IPC::Run won't be a problem right? |
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johaBBa |
yay! |
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johaBBa |
i think i have Padre installed on debian stable |
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Xaero |
that was quick |
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Xaero |
I've been trying for over 2 weeks now :( |
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johaBBa |
well, i'm not using windows. |
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Xaero |
that might be the reason :P |
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Xaero |
i guess you are not using 5.12.0.1 either |
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johaBBa |
you like headaches, eh? |
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Xaero |
nope, i just dunno nothing about compiling stuff |
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Xaero |
this is the first time I am doing it |
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Xaero |
i heard upgrading perl is a problem so I'm trying to get the newest working version so I can go without upgrading for quite sometime |
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Xaero |
I get: dmake: Error code 130, while making 'all', any idea what error code 130 stands for? |
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johaBBa |
does anyone know if the padre-vi plugin is in CPAN as well? |
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johaBBa |
Xaero, sry. i've only used GNU make or cmake. |
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Xaero |
i get the same error with gmake too I believe |
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johaBBa |
and i don't do windows. |
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Xaero |
which version of Wx did you install? |
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johaBBa |
2.8.10 |
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johaBBa |
can someone help me with installing local::lib? i can install Acme::Time::Baby with cpan and non-root account, but Alien::wxWidgets still tries to install to /usr/local/lib/perl |
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