Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2010-05-17

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02:50 Dgiin Hello, is any body home?
02:54 Dgiin I just downloaded and installed strawberry perl plus padre [windows] and when I attempt to test perl 6 I get an error message. "execution mode not set..." I can't find any referance to this in the documentation. Ideas?
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05:18 Hyppolit svn: r11470 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11470
05:18 Hyppolit replace GetHelp workaround by GetLabel
05:18 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
05:22 Hyppolit svn: r11471 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11471
05:22 Hyppolit eliminate unnecessary call to SetHelp
05:22 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
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06:50 depesz_via_web hi. I tried to play with Padre, but help pages are without any format or line breaks - which make them unreadable.
06:50 depesz_via_web what did I miss when installing?
06:50 szabgab which version of Padre? what OS?
06:51 depesz_via_web szabgad: 0.61, linux ubuntu, padre from cpan
06:51 szabgab hmm, and which help are you talking about?
06:52 szabgab I just checked and for me both F1 and F2 are formatting "well"
06:52 szabgab not very nice but readable
06:52 depesz_via_web f2
06:52 depesz_via_web i probably can provide screenshot. moment. looking for some image "paste"
06:54 depesz_via_web http://privatepaste.com/download/04d50e2632
06:54 depesz_via_web this is after "f2" on "use"
06:54 depesz_via_web f1 has exactly the same problem
06:55 depesz_via_web side note - it's not ubuntu, it's kubuntu, sorry.
06:55 depesz_via_web it might be related perhaps.
06:57 szabgab I am runing it on Unubtu 10.4
06:57 szabgab Ubuntu
06:57 szabgab on trunk
06:57 szabgab and it works well
06:58 szabgab so we can blame it on Kubuntu but I am not sure if that is really the issue
06:58 depesz_via_web is there anything I can do to help debug the issue?
06:58 depesz_via_web some magic flags, anything?
06:59 szabgab do youhave POD2::Base installed ?
07:00 szabgab what version of wx do you have ?   In the Help/About/System Info
07:00 szabgab I have wx 0.94 and wxWidgest 2.8.10
07:00 szabgab BTW does anyone else see this problem ?
07:01 depesz_via_web wxWidgets 2.8.10
07:01 depesz_via_web POD2::Base 0.043
07:02 depesz_via_web szabgab: could you please dpkg -l | grep wx ?
07:02 depesz_via_web so i can see perhaps i'm missing some wx* package
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07:03 zenog_ depesz_via_web: This is because of the version of Wx that you use.
07:03 szabgab zenog, why ?
07:04 zenog_ szabgab: The same problem already came up some days ago ... I am looking for the logs ...
07:05 szabgab depesz_via_web, what is the version of Wx you are using?
07:06 zenog_ #941 is one related report, but not what I was looking for.
07:06 Hyppolit #941: Help is improperly formatted/displayed (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/941#comment:1 ]
07:06 depesz_via_web libwxgtk2.8-0                              2.8.10.1-0ubuntu1
07:07 zenog_ Ah, it was on the WxPerl mailing list: http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl​.wxperl.users/2010/05/msg7285.html
07:07 zenog_ If I understand it correctly, it is not the version of WxWidgets itself, but of the Perl bindings.
07:08 szabgab depesz_via_web, pls look in the Help/About of Padre
07:08 szabgab you have the version of Wx there
07:08 depesz_via_web szabgad wx 0.96
07:09 depesz_via_web installing new from cpan now
07:09 zenog_ depesz_via_web: That should do it.
07:09 szabgab I have 0.94 and it works ok
07:09 szabgab but maybe there was a breakage in the middle
07:11 zenog_ szabgab: According to the WxPerl mailing list, there was.
07:12 Hyppolit #941: Help is improperly formatted/displayed (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/941#comment:2 ]
07:12 depesz_via_web YES. it worked. Comment on perl.wxperl.users (from zenog_ link) solved the problem basically.
07:12 depesz_via_web thanks.
07:12 zenog_ szabgab: Is there a possibility to enforce/suggest the use of Wx < 0.95 and > 0.96
07:12 zenog_ depesz_via_web: Great!
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07:13 zenog_ szabgab: Or at least to give a warning if one of the versions is used?
07:13 depesz_via_web thanks a lot.
07:13 szabgab zenog, yes, you can do that in our Makefile.PL
07:15 szabgab zenog, check the call check_wx_version;
07:15 szabgab though I think that checks the wxwidgets version
07:16 szabgab but that might give a clue how to write this check so it will work even if there is no DISPLAY
07:16 zenog_ Would it be okay to require at least 0.97?
07:16 szabgab and thanks for your help
07:16 szabgab I think we should not force that
07:17 szabgab unless we see that there we have real issues with lower versions (except 0.96)
07:17 szabgab it is implemented in Module::Install::PRIVATE::Padre in privinc
07:19 szabgab I checked that code now and I think you can add there a check that if there is Wx and if it is 0.96 then require 0.97 at least
07:19 szabgab or maybe just bail out explaining the situation
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07:30 zenog_ When is check_wx_version called?
07:31 zenog_ During installation?
07:32 zenog_ Ah, during perl Makefile.PL, I guess
07:32 szabgab yes
07:33 szabgab but I have to go to earn some $$ now
07:33 szabgab &
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07:36 zenog_ szabgab: Have fun ;-)
07:38 Hyppolit svn: r11472 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11472
07:38 Hyppolit Add a warning for versions of Wx.pm with broken HTML rendering
07:38 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/privinc/Module/Install/PRIVATE/
07:39 zenog_ Can someone check this?
07:46 Hyppolit #941: Help is improperly formatted/displayed (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/941#comment:3 ]
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10:13 Hyppolit #924: (wishlist) user-defined regex library, previously defined regexes, and Regexp::Common in the Regex Editor (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/924#comment:1 ]
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10:41 mutant anyone around who knows about styling?
10:43 daxim like, cascading style-sheets or what?
10:43 mutant applying styling in scintilla
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11:20 zenog mutant: Not me, sorry.
11:21 mutant thanks think i've sorted it anyway :)
11:21 zenog Great.
11:41 Hyppolit svn: r11473 | Mutant++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11473
11:41 Hyppolit Mousing over a sub/method name with ctrl pressed now highlights it
11:41 Hyppolit to indicate it can be clicked on
11:41 Hyppolit
11:41 Hyppolit Also made the data compiled by the outline task avaiable to the
11:41 Hyppolit document object
11:41 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/Outline/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
11:47 Hyppolit #307: Ctrl-Left mouse jumps to  definition (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/307#comment:5 ]
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11:52 Getty it seems like that i cant use __DATA__ to storage stuff inside some Module, or? i searched yesterday around but i just found people who said that it must be in the package main; is there really no way?
11:52 Getty ah wait... what i say... i know that it works in Geography::Countries....
12:23 Hyppolit #941: Help is improperly formatted/displayed (closed defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/941#comment:4 ]
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13:20 Hyppolit #427: docbrowser crashes om unsaved module (closed defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/427#comment:9 ]
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14:29 Hyppolit #875: Case insensitive checkbox not taken into account in "Find in Files" dialog (reopened defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/875#comment:3 ]
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14:39 Hyppolit svn: r11474 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11474
14:39 Hyppolit Regex editor: Support global flag for substitute; gettextified one message
14:39 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
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14:40 zenog Hi Xaero.
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14:43 Xaero \o/
14:43 Xaero can you tell me if I need to subscribe to a mailing list to be able to send emails to it?
14:44 zenog Xaero: Otherwise they will be moderated (I guess).
14:44 zenog Xaero: So you can send w/o subscribing, but there may be a delay.
14:44 zenog Xaero: I heard you did it.
14:44 Xaero ok thanks
14:44 Xaero :P yeah
14:45 Xaero frontpage news eh?
14:45 Xaero xD
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14:49 zenog Xaero: I hope now you have finally fun with Padre ...
14:50 Xaero hope to, haven't had time yet
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15:03 Hyppolit svn: r11475 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11475
15:03 Hyppolit Task::Outline::Perl - make sure data is set to the right document
15:03 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/Outline/
15:05 Hyppolit svn: r11476 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11476
15:05 Hyppolit tidy project
15:05 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
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15:11 zenog Hi SvenDowideit, hi run4flat
15:11 run4flat hello
15:11 run4flat I hope this isn't terribly off-topic, but I have a question about Hypolit
15:12 run4flat Gabor set up Hypolit for me on #pdl and it gave me operator status
15:12 run4flat but I forgot how to tell it to do thngs
15:12 run4flat Is there a how-to anywhere?
15:12 zenog run4flat: Sorry, I don't know anything about a how-to, but the source code is in Padre's SVN repository.
15:13 run4flat Great. I'll take a look.
15:13 zenog http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/browser/trunk/Hyppolit
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15:23 Hyppolit #875: Case insensitive checkbox not taken into account in "Find in Files" dialog (reopened defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/875#comment:4 ]
15:25 run4flat Thanks for your help. You can find me (for the time being) at #pdl.
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15:34 run4flat OK, now I have a Padre question, or possibly a bug.
15:35 run4flat But it's probably not a bug with Padre per-se. I suspect it is with the pod2html converter used to display the help.
15:37 run4flat The problem is that when you put tagged pod in a verbatim paragraph, it sometimes applies to tags, rather than displaying them.
15:39 daxim sounds too abstract, show me a test case
15:41 shadowpaste "run4flat" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "Example pod verbatim that is not correctly displayed by Padre's help" (8 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/43682
15:41 run4flat Just put that in Padre and then view with Help->Current Document
15:42 run4flat daxim: we're working on a pod style guide for PDL
15:44 zenog Is someone involved with Strawberry Perl here in the channel?
15:47 run4flat zenog: not I
15:49 Hyppolit #951: verbatim Pod not rendered correctly (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/951 ]
15:49 daxim this is your bug, run4flat
15:50 run4flat daxim: yes, that's it
15:50 run4flat daxim: thanks for posting it
15:51 daxim if you want notifications, subscribe to its feed
15:51 run4flat will do
15:53 zenog run4flat: Thanks for reporting it.
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16:15 Sewi Hi run4flat
16:16 Sewi Do you want to open a ticket on this?
16:16 Sewi Oh, sorry, just saw #951...
16:16 Hyppolit #951: verbatim Pod not rendered correctly (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/951 ]
16:16 Sewi Do you want a trac account for reporting further bugs yourself?
16:17 run4flat No, I have an account
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16:17 run4flat I wasn't sure if this was actually a Padre problem
16:17 run4flat so I thought I'd ask around before reporting it
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16:18 Sewi ok
17:10 run4flat Another logistical question: Is there any way I can add #pdl to scsys.co.uk?
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17:11 run4flat Sorry for being off-topic. If anybody has a good general-purpose channel they can refer me to, I'll go bug them instead.
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17:43 zenog &
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18:16 dolmen Hi
18:16 dolmen Any Track admin, here?
18:18 dolmen I suggest to add a 'component' for issues reports: 'install'
18:20 Hyppolit #952: Module::Install::PRIVATE::Padre is both in privinc/ and in inc/ in the distribution (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/952 ]
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19:46 Hyppolit svn: r11477 | burak++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11477
19:46 Hyppolit New Turkish translations
19:46 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Alarm/share/locale/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-CSS/share/locale/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Catalyst/share/locale/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-ClassSniff/share/locale/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-CommandLine/share/locale/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-DataWalker/share/locale/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Mojolicious/share/locale/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-PAR/share/locale/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Perl6/lib/Pa​dre/Plugin/Perl6/share/locale/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-PerlCri
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20:34 Hyppolit svn: r11478 | burak++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11478
20:34 Hyppolit New Turkish translations
20:34 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Autoformat/lib/Pa​dre/Plugin/Autoformat/share/locale/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Ecliptic/lib/Pa​dre/Plugin/Ecliptic/share/locale/
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22:12 waxhead morning
22:13 * waxhead is home with a sick kid today
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