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waxhead |
anyone have any reason not to roll out a release tonight? |
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zenog |
waxhead: nope |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11487 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11487 |
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Hyppolit |
Change file updated for release 0.62 - The Kartic Thakore Release. |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11488 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11488 |
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Hyppolit |
tidy for release 0.62 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/Outline/ |
| 12:33 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11489 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11489 |
| 12:33 |
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Hyppolit |
version bump to 0.62 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Action/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Config/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/Migrate/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DocBrowser/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/QuickFix/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/File/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/PopularityContest/ trunk/ |
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szabgab |
waxhead_, we can see you doing things! |
| 12:48 |
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waxhead_ |
yep... |
| 12:48 |
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waxhead_ |
nearly done with the release... |
| 12:50 |
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waxhead_ |
szabgab, just pip'ing the Padre tar ball for 0.62.. will check the crash thing just quickly and will then tag the release... I can't test windows tonight.. will ping you when ready |
| 12:58 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11490 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11490 |
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Hyppolit |
tag Padre-0.62 |
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Hyppolit |
tags/ |
| 13:00 |
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waxhead_ |
szabgab, do you have time to test it? |
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waxhead_ |
I don't have a windows box to test install tonight |
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szabgab |
doing it now |
| 13:00 |
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waxhead_ |
anyone with a windows box handy and wants to test installing 0.62? |
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szabgab |
http://perlide.org/download/so[…]Padre-0.62.tar.gz |
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szabgab |
Ubuntu tested well |
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waxhead_ |
yep.. first OS that gets tested is that one... |
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szabgab |
launching Windows now |
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waxhead_ |
I really must get around to setting up the VM for windows on this laptop |
| 13:04 |
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waxhead_ |
szabgab, thanks!! :) |
| 13:05 |
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* waxhead_ |
is sitting in bed, so no interested in getting up to turn on the windows machine |
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szabgab |
serious software, the release manager runs it from bed :-) |
| 13:07 |
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waxhead_ |
sure does... |
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waxhead_ |
wow.. email gets out quick... hopefully the windows install works |
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szabgab |
it is installing dependencies now |
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waxhead_ |
hey [Sno] |
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[Sno] |
hey waxhead |
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waxhead_ |
it better work.. I've already set all the web changes and the like.. :) |
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waxhead_ |
had the topic change set up but deleted just in case |
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szabgab |
irc tagline ? |
| 13:12 |
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szabgab |
:) |
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waxhead_ |
yeah |
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szabgab |
crap |
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waxhead_ |
what? |
| 13:13 |
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szabgab |
I ran out of chocolate |
| 13:13 |
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waxhead_ |
that's not funny! |
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szabgab |
:) |
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Topic for #padreis now "Latest Padre is 0.62, for installation see http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Download | Log: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/padre/today | Pasting: http://scsys.co.uk:8001" |
| 13:13 |
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* Sewi |
wanted to do something for Padre again :-) |
| 13:13 |
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szabgab |
Sewi++ |
| 13:14 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11491 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11491 |
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Hyppolit |
Added "To be released" after the release is done. |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ |
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Sewi |
szabgab: http://www.milka.de |
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waxhead_ |
awww... I wanted to see if I could do a release where I didn't forget something! |
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waxhead_ |
:) |
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waxhead_ |
I haven't uploaded it yet either... still waiting on szabgab to see if it loads OK on windows... or if we have to wait for the chocolate supply |
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szabgab |
waxhead++ # all tests successful on Windows |
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Sewi |
szabgab++; # for testing |
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waxhead_ |
saaaweet! |
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szabgab |
can I now shut down Windows? |
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waxhead_ |
szabgab, sure can... |
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waxhead_ |
thanks |
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waxhead_ |
szabgab++ for saving me getting out of bed to test windows install |
| 13:17 |
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szabgab |
Installing update 1 out of 4 ... |
| 13:19 |
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waxhead_ |
ouch.. been a while since you last turned it on? |
| 13:19 |
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Xaero |
there's a list of ide's over here: http://www.cpan.org/ports/#linux, doesn't list padre :( |
| 13:21 |
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szabgab |
Xaero, the windows and Mac parts list Padre already |
| 13:21 |
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szabgab |
I can ask Jarkko to add Padre there too but do you think it is that important? |
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Xaero |
oh yeah :P, didn't see that |
| 13:22 |
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Xaero |
i think so, you can't expect linux users to go look for ide's available for windows |
| 13:22 |
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Xaero |
and it's a huge list |
| 13:23 |
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Xaero |
suprisingly doesn't list a port for ARM processors :-s |
| 13:24 |
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waxhead_ |
szabgab, do you use the svn plugin much? |
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waxhead_ |
oh.. you're using git now aren't you? |
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szabgab |
I use both svn and git but not the plugins in Padre |
| 13:24 |
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szabgab |
I am just too command line bound |
| 13:25 |
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szabgab |
and actually in the last 2-3 months I hardly did any work |
| 13:25 |
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szabgab |
mostly wrote text |
| 13:25 |
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szabgab |
and tons of e-mails |
| 13:28 |
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daxim |
and travelling |
| 13:29 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11492 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11492 |
| 13:29 |
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Hyppolit |
updated web links |
| 13:29 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/ |
| 13:29 |
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waxhead_ |
yeah.. you've been busy lately... |
| 13:30 |
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waxhead_ |
that's fine.. someone makes changes to the plugin, I just need to get around to packaging it up and putting it on cpan |
| 13:31 |
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waxhead_ |
I've been working on the SQL plugin, I'm not sure it's heading in the direction you had in mind with it though |
| 13:40 |
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* Sewi |
is using the SVN plugin all day |
| 13:40 |
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waxhead_ |
Sewi, have you tried the blame/log lately? |
| 13:41 |
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Sewi |
no, mostly commit, add and rarly revert |
| 13:41 |
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waxhead_ |
I put the output into a tree control based on revision numbers... |
| 13:41 |
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waxhead_ |
fair enough.. |
| 13:41 |
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waxhead_ |
might be time to release a new version... |
| 13:42 |
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Sewi |
Looks nice as of r11380 |
| 13:42 |
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Hyppolit |
Changeset #11380 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11380 |
| 13:42 |
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waxhead_ |
see how the weekend pans out... got the kids and it's pretty busy on the weekends they are here... |
| 13:43 |
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waxhead_ |
I really need to sit down and get my head around testing though.. |
| 13:44 |
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waxhead_ |
it's one of the reasons I joined in with Padre... hoping to learn more by osmosis... |
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waxhead_ |
I have chromatic's book on testing too... |
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waxhead_ |
might read it while waiting at hockey training... |
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waxhead__ |
flamin NIC... |
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Xaero |
um.. |
| 13:48 |
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Xaero |
do you need to have the svn client installed to use the svn plugin? |
| 13:49 |
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Sewi |
yes |
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Xaero |
which one? |
| 13:49 |
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Sewi |
Which OS? |
| 13:49 |
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Xaero |
win |
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waxhead__ |
Xaero, on windows go to the tigris web site and grab the windows command line binaries |
| 13:49 |
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Sewi |
Don't know,sorry |
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waxhead__ |
you have to actually run the svn command line client to 'cache' you username password... after that the plugin works |
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waxhead__ |
the problem is the plugin itself is just basiclaly 'shelling out' to the svn command line tools |
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Xaero |
do you guys have one client installeds for each of the vcs's? |
| 13:50 |
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Xaero |
cvs,svn,git,...? |
| 13:50 |
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waxhead__ |
it's not a full blown lib implemenation like tortise is |
| 13:51 |
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waxhead__ |
I'm on linux |
| 13:51 |
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Xaero |
i like commandline |
| 13:51 |
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Sewi |
Xaero: No, I simply don't use git or anything else. |
| 13:51 |
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waxhead__ |
so I just apt-get install svn |
| 13:51 |
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szabgab |
guy what do you think are the most important things missing in padre? |
| 13:51 |
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waxhead__ |
I also don't use git.. just svn for now |
| 13:51 |
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szabgab |
s/guy/ppl/ |
| 13:51 |
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Xaero |
wxFormBuilder is missing |
| 13:51 |
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waxhead__ |
fully functioning debgger |
| 13:52 |
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Xaero |
Alias told he would be making one :P |
| 13:52 |
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Sewi |
Apache mod_perl remote debugging |
| 13:52 |
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szabgab |
Xaero, what is that? |
| 13:52 |
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Xaero |
it's like glade for wx |
| 13:52 |
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waxhead__ |
szabgab, like the form designer in Visual studio |
| 13:52 |
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szabgab |
ok |
| 13:53 |
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szabgab |
hey waxhead is here :-) |
| 13:53 |
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szabgab |
there is a wxGlade |
| 13:53 |
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waxhead |
indeed.. :) |
| 13:54 |
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szabgab |
oh I see there is an existing project called wxformbuilder |
| 13:54 |
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szabgab |
does it generate code or XML ? |
| 13:54 |
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waxhead |
I also think we need to understand the AUI stuff better, so we can get floating or dockable toolbars for plugins |
| 13:54 |
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waxhead |
and also the IDE needs to have a place to things like the debugger to put a 'watch' window |
| 13:55 |
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szabgab |
any DBIx::Class user here btw ? |
| 13:55 |
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* waxhead |
used VS at work a lot for C# |
| 13:55 |
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* Sewi |
waves |
| 13:55 |
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Xaero |
what is AGUI? |
| 13:55 |
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waxhead |
s/used/uses/ |
| 13:55 |
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Xaero |
i dunno what it does, alias said he would be doing something like wxGlade |
| 13:55 |
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waxhead |
did I say AGUI? |
| 13:55 |
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Sewi |
szabgab: I wrote a little wrapper object for DBIx::Class to simplify usage |
| 13:55 |
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Xaero |
"<@waxhead> I also think we need to understand the AUI stuff better..." |
| 13:56 |
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waxhead |
Sewi, a wrapper on a wrapper for dbi? :) |
| 13:56 |
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szabgab |
have you ppl used CodeCharge ? |
| 13:56 |
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waxhead |
Xaero, AUI is the advanced User Interface stuff for Wx |
| 13:56 |
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Xaero |
like the zenity like module for Wx :P |
| 13:56 |
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szabgab |
it is some tool that can look at a database and build various form for its table |
| 13:56 |
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waxhead |
it's whats needed for multiple toolbars |
| 13:57 |
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szabgab |
Xaero, we have started that zenity thing a long time ago |
| 13:57 |
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Sewi |
DBIx::Class, yes. No need to write these $where_did_i_store_my_schema_handler->resultset('foo')->... stuff unless it's really needed. Just my $obj = Project::Object->new($id); |
| 13:57 |
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szabgab |
and it is stuck in the code base now |
| 13:57 |
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Xaero |
yeah saw that on cpan, nice to have it simple |
| 13:57 |
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szabgab |
if you have the time/energy to make it work that would be coooool |
| 13:57 |
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Xaero |
lol me? I haven't yet had time to read learning perl :P |
| 13:58 |
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Sewi |
waxhead: It includes DB connection handling and caching for mod_perl |
| 13:58 |
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Xaero |
after that i'll try |
| 13:58 |
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waxhead |
your wrapper? |
| 13:58 |
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szabgab |
Xaero, it is well known you cant read perl, so just write some code :-) |
| 13:58 |
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waxhead |
that's neat.. |
| 13:58 |
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Sewi |
Xaero: I didn't read it, too and I'm adding bugs to Padre, too :-) |
| 13:58 |
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waxhead |
haha... |
| 13:59 |
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Sewi |
waxhead: It's more like a mod_perl based framework which includes the wrapper. I didn't like catalyst for few reasons |
| 13:59 |
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waxhead |
Curtis is doing an awesome job with strawberry perl at the moment |
| 13:59 |
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waxhead |
Sewi, I keep trying to find a reason to do cat stuff.. but never can |
| 13:59 |
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Xaero |
i've only tried perl one liners so far, very limited perl experience :( |
| 14:00 |
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Xaero |
if you need some non coding help then I can try |
| 14:00 |
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waxhead |
I really should move to blogs.perl.org |
| 14:00 |
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waxhead |
vox's editor is bugging me big time |
| 14:00 |
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Xaero |
where is your blog right now? |
| 14:00 |
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waxhead |
Xaero, you have to start somewhere... |
| 14:00 |
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waxhead |
http://perlwannabe.vox.com |
| 14:00 |
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Sewi |
waxhead: I wanted to have a multi-domain, multi-project framework which takes care of DB connections, templates, sessioning and things like this. |
| 14:01 |
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waxhead |
Sewi, so you're mostly working with web stuff then? |
| 14:01 |
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Xaero |
0.62 released?! |
| 14:01 |
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Xaero |
when? |
| 14:01 |
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Sewi |
Padre is my first and only non-web-app (not counting the endless number of commandline-based small helper scripts) |
| 14:02 |
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szabgab |
Xaero, an hour ago :-) |
| 14:02 |
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waxhead |
Xaero, tonight.. about 30 minutes ago |
| 14:02 |
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Sewi |
lol |
| 14:02 |
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waxhead |
it has to ripple around the cpan mirrors before you see it |
| 14:02 |
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Sewi |
Seems time is passing faster in .il than in .au :-) |
| 14:02 |
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Xaero |
how do I update? cpan>upgrade Padre? |
| 14:02 |
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szabgab |
Xaero, we could do a lot with documentation and translation if you know some other language |
| 14:03 |
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waxhead |
Sewi, I'm about the same with perl.. most of my work with it is the T in ETL... other web work was actually PerlScript in ASP Classic... |
| 14:03 |
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szabgab |
Xaero, pip http://perlide.org/download/so[…]Padre-0.62.tar.gz |
| 14:03 |
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waxhead |
Xaero, yes if you want to wait for Padre to hit your cpan mirror |
| 14:04 |
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Xaero |
i only know english, and haven't really used padre since I installed it, I haven't even had time to send the email to wxperl mailing list you asked me to do |
| 14:04 |
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waxhead |
or as szabgab has shown you.. you can use pip to upgrade it |
| 14:04 |
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Sewi |
Or use svn? |
| 14:04 |
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Sewi |
svn? |
| 14:04 |
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Hyppolit |
svn is http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]ownloadRepository |
| 14:04 |
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Sewi |
here it is :-) |
| 14:04 |
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* waxhead |
uses trunk all the time |
| 14:04 |
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Sewi |
word svn? |
| 14:04 |
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szabgab |
Xaero, well, we don't need Eglish translation :-) |
| 14:05 |
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szabgab |
or maybe I do :-) |
| 14:05 |
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Xaero |
ok :P |
| 14:05 |
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Sewi |
szabgab: We don't have one. :-) Just Australian |
| 14:05 |
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kthakore |
hi Sewi \o |
| 14:05 |
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Sewi |
hi kthakore |
| 14:05 |
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waxhead |
hey kthakore... |
| 14:05 |
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waxhead |
check the logs... |
| 14:05 |
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kthakore |
waxhead: do you put the fixes in changes? |
| 14:05 |
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szabgab |
but we could use a lot of QA time |
| 14:05 |
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kthakore |
waxhead: me? |
| 14:05 |
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szabgab |
just using Padre and checking what works what does not |
| 14:06 |
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kthakore |
waxhead: svn log or scrollback |
| 14:06 |
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szabgab |
going over the bugs in trac seeing if old bugs are still there or not |
| 14:06 |
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waxhead |
kthakore, http://irclog.perlgeek.de/padr[…]0-05-21#i_2353129 |
| 14:07 |
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szabgab |
I was thinking on how to try to enlarge the Padre community a bit |
| 14:07 |
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waxhead |
kthakore, http://irclog.perlgeek.de/padr[…]0-05-21#i_2353130 |
| 14:07 |
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szabgab |
for example we could send out requests for people to do QA for padre |
| 14:07 |
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waxhead |
szabgab, build it and they will come... |
| 14:07 |
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szabgab |
in exchange we would help them learn Perl |
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waxhead |
well you did build it and we did come... |
| 14:08 |
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kthakore |
waxhead: it is Kartik btw |
| 14:08 |
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waxhead |
oh for goodness sake.. really? |
| 14:08 |
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waxhead |
man alive.. |
| 14:08 |
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kthakore |
waxhead: awesome now Padre will be part of my companies too |
| 14:08 |
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waxhead |
I spelt Steffen's name wrong over and over |
| 14:08 |
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kthakore |
waxhead: heheh its ok |
| 14:09 |
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szabgab |
kthakore, that's great but what does that really mean ? |
| 14:09 |
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waxhead |
you can bet on two things now I reckon.. I'll always forget something when doing a release, and I'll spell your name wrong |
| 14:09 |
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szabgab |
I thought you are the only user in your company |
| 14:09 |
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szabgab |
so making it company standard is, well, |
| 14:09 |
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kthakore |
szabgab: that means it will be used in my team (3-4) forever even after I am gone |
| 14:09 |
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waxhead |
kthakore, I even went to the trouble of trying to find your name to spell it right... |
| 14:10 |
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kthakore |
waxhead: where did you get kartic? |
| 14:10 |
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szabgab |
oh, they will hate you forever :-) |
| 14:10 |
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Sewi |
kthakore: So we need you to roam around companies making Padre standard everywhere :-) |
| 14:10 |
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kthakore |
Sewi: sure |
| 14:10 |
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szabgab |
we need a press release from your company |
| 14:10 |
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waxhead |
kthakore, http://ironman.enlightenedperl.org/, but that doesn't mean it's spelt incorrectly there.. I likely can't type or read |
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kthakore |
Sewi: although they will stay wth 0.62 |
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szabgab |
actually I think we should really interview the decision maker about this |
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szabgab |
kthakore, would that be possible? |
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Xaero |
page needs to be updated i guess: http://padre.perlide.org/download.html |
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kthakore |
szabgab: hah I doubt that it will be like The Bank of Canada saying they use winZIP in an official press releases |
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kthakore |
szabgab: no I don't think so sorry |
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kthakore |
szabgab: the company is very darconian about what tools they use |
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szabgab |
are you really in the Bank of Canada? |
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kthakore |
szabgab: similar but not taht |
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kthakore |
that |
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waxhead |
ok.. time for sleep |
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waxhead |
night all |
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kthakore |
ok back to work |
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El_Che |
http://blogs.perl.org/users/do[…]and-api-spec.html |
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El_Che |
that is freaking exiting |
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El_Che |
(not that have the time to do anything with it nowadays :(, still pretty cool) |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11493 | sblandin++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11493 |
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Hyppolit |
Updated Padre Italian translation |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/share/locale/ |
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Sewi |
szabgab: The most annoying thing atm is Padre response time: Press Ctrl+F or Ctrl+G and start typing: The first chars go to the editor window into your source until the window pops up - but I don't really know how to fix it |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11494 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11494 |
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Hyppolit |
Add sub new autodetection and autocomplete |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11495 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11495 |
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Hyppolit |
Update TODO |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ |
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szabgab |
Sewi, yeah, that's annoying me as well |
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szabgab |
is this always or only on the first time you fdo it? |
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Sewi |
No, depends on current CPU workload |
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