Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2010-05-24

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03:51 user_7962 hello all.
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08:26 waxhead evening
08:26 waxhead did I forget to set the topic after the last release??
08:27 Xaero there's new release after 0.62?
09:26 Sewi waxhead: There were "" around it, I think.
09:26 Sewi waxhead: You're working on the SVN plugin?
09:47 waxhead Sewi, yep..
09:47 waxhead "" around the topic?? how odd.
09:48 waxhead Sewi, I was going to do a release of it to cpan..
09:53 waxhead Sewi, I have a tar ball to put up to cpan tonight... unless you really want something done and want me to hold off?
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10:47 Sewi waxhead: Nothing really important, but it complains if you edit a file and choose SVN->Add->File while it has unsaved changes.
10:48 Sewi This doesn't make sense, because the unsafed-changes-check is already done before commit. It's not serious, just one click which isn't needed and could save two seconds per file for the user :-)
11:24 waxhead Sewi, I don't get it... does it complain if there are other files that aren't saved?
11:52 Sewi Open a new file, save it in a svn-controlled dir, type something in it (making the tab marked with a * by Padre). Now select tools->svn->add->file.
11:53 Sewi The plugin complains that the file is unsafed which isn't neccessary for adding it (as "add" just add's an entry to the svn file table).
11:53 Sewi It's ok to complain on commit but (up to me) there is no reason for complaining on "add"
12:07 waxhead oh...
12:09 waxhead I'll try and find it again... I think the main thing is, a file can't be added if it doesn't have anything on the file system, so the simple check is to see if it's saved.. what I'd have to change is the check to make sure the file exists..
12:09 waxhead Hyppolit isn't around?
12:09 waxhead no commit notification....
12:09 waxhead ok.. time for bed...
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12:26 Xaero isn't it too early to go to bed?
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13:28 Getty it could be that kodingen.com refactor their complete platform (frotend and backend) to perl! :D
13:34 Xaero what do you mean by "refactor to perl"?
13:34 Getty they make it perl
13:34 Getty so that the complete stuff is running on perl
13:34 Getty so far its a java backend and a php frontend
13:36 Xaero or is it javascript(ajax) frontend or php backend?
13:36 Getty hehe no its a layered concept, in that dimension i mean....
13:36 Getty you saw the page?
13:36 Xaero yeah, it's nice :D
13:37 Getty register, make an account, join the perl developers group! ;)
13:37 Getty i'm now part of the kodingen.com team, responsible for the community features and the upcoming API to access the features
13:39 Xaero where is the perl developers group? i don't see it?
13:39 Getty you go to groups and then you must go by letter
13:39 Xaero found it
13:42 Getty massive growing group
13:42 Getty :)
13:42 Xaero massive? it says 6 members, am i looking at the right one?
13:47 Getty yeah
13:47 Getty i just said massive growing group
13:47 Getty not massive big group ;)
13:47 Getty see how many people joined in the last 24 hours
13:47 Xaero xD, is this like sourceforge?
13:47 Getty think about sourceforge webserver
13:48 Getty you edit your webpage online (or you can also upload via ftp if you want) and its there
13:48 Getty its good for developers who want to instant work
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13:48 Getty but also for companies for hosting later, but that is future, the free part is always priority 1
13:48 Getty (so right now, not one cent is earned beside the donations ;) )
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13:53 Getty Xaero: you didnt joined the group :-P
14:07 Xaero i was having tea :D
14:07 Xaero besides i can't really do perl programming
14:07 Xaero but I'll join in a while
14:08 Xaero but first i need to setup my email client and send that email to wxperl mailing list which is the next task, overdue by a week
14:10 Xaero btw does it have a cvs repo?
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14:50 Getty Xaero: just join ;)
14:50 Getty Xaero: who cvs?
14:51 Xaero CVS versioning
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16:01 Getty no i mean whos cvs repo you search? noone has a cvs repo anymore ;)
16:34 Xaero i do
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17:20 dekimsey I'm attempting to run Padre on windows and it is crashing while opening a file. I'm having some trouble in that I cannot seem to figure out how to get stderr output, so I have no idea what is going wrong. How can I get this information?
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17:27 szabgab dekimsey, do you run it on Strawberry 5.12 ?
17:29 Xaero dekimsey, does it stay open if you don't open a file?
17:30 Xaero and what happens when you type in a blank editor window?
17:34 Xaero can you also give the output of "perl -V:myuname"
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17:54 dekimsey Sorry about that, I stepped away from the computer.
17:56 dekimsey @szabgab, its the Padre 0.56 w/ Strawberry 5.10.1.1 as packaged on perlide.org
17:56 szabgab that should work
17:56 szabgab do you have other perl installed ?
17:56 dekimsey @Xaero, it says open until I go to open a file.
17:58 dekimsey No, this should be the only one.
17:59 Xaero and what happens when you type in a blank editor window?
17:59 dekimsey Sorry, overlooked that question.
17:59 dekimsey Its fine.
18:00 Xaero szabgab, what is the right way to open padre on windows? there's a padre.bat and padre.exe in the site/bin/
18:00 Xaero dekimsey, can you type use warnings;?
18:00 szabgab it should be padre.exe but there was a bug so first time you might need to run padre.bat
18:01 dekimsey I've tried both
18:01 dekimsey Yes, it works Xaero
18:01 Xaero i just type padre in the command prompt, dunno if it opens the bat or exe
18:02 szabgab Xaero, that should be ok
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18:06 dekimsey Any ideas how I can get stderr/debugging output?
18:06 shadowpaste "Xaero" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "some error padre 0.62 strawberryperl 5.12.0.1 win32" (8 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/43946
18:13 szabgab dekimsey, of what ?
18:13 szabgab of the whole padre process?
18:13 szabgab or a script executed in Padre?
18:13 dekimsey Of any stderr output from the ide.
18:14 dekimsey I'm just getting a generic windows crash which is obtuse as all hell
18:14 szabgab so run padre from the command line
18:15 Xaero I'm able to type "use " it shows the calltip, when i type warning it crashes with that error i pasted above ^^
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18:15 szabgab Xaero, that is some threading thing
18:15 Xaero dekimsey, run padre.bat in command prompt it should give you an error
18:16 dekimsey heh, I wish it did
18:17 szabgab dekimsey, then that might be a C-level crash
18:17 dekimsey padre.bat doesn't generate any stderr output. the program is still connected to the terminal, just nothing is printed.
18:17 dekimsey damn.
18:18 szabgab dekimsey, do you have enough memory?
18:18 Xaero szabgab, any idea when csjewell or alias will return?
18:18 szabgab CSJewel was sick - he blogged about it
18:18 szabgab but now he is better so I hope he will be back soon
18:18 dekimsey szabgab, Yes, I should
18:18 szabgab Alias is traveling
18:19 szabgab dekimsey, and which windows is this?
18:19 dekimsey 7
18:19 Xaero dekimsey, has padre worked for you before this?
18:20 szabgab I only have XP in my VirtualBox
18:20 szabgab I guess I should buy a 7 just for the fun
18:20 Xaero >.>
18:20 dekimsey SOrt of. I was toying with the inc settings in padre. But I cleared them out when this started.
18:21 dekimsey sorry, I mean., command-line options to add paths to @inc.
18:21 Xaero did you download the padre+strawberry package from the padre site?
18:21 Xaero padre.perlide.org?
18:21 dekimsey Yes.
18:23 Xaero well, i am very very sleepy, can't even look at the monitor so goodnight
18:23 Xaero cya tomorrow
18:23 dekimsey Xaero, thanks for trying
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18:24 Xaero wc
18:25 Xaero szabgab, do you think this could be a problem with perl?
18:26 Xaero i just downloaded activeperl, again :P will try to see if I can get padre running with it
18:28 dekimsey Is there a trac-ticket related to the ssh plugin? I couldn't seem to find one
18:30 dekimsey I dumped the configuration settings directory in %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Perl
18:30 dekimsey It seems to load files alright.
18:30 dekimsey Appears to hate any files mounted through a windows sshfs-esque drive.
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19:15 szabgab Sewi, ping
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19:36 Sewi szabgab: pong. Just wrote to Viacheslav asking which would be the preferred address.
19:37 szabgab yeah I just wanted to talk to you before I sent it
19:37 szabgab asking if you plan to come to Berlin or Stuttgart
19:55 Hyppolit svn: r11500 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11500
19:55 Hyppolit blog entry about padre on debian sid
19:55 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/

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