Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2010-06-05

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04:21 user_722 Hi, I was wondering whether Padre had a macro feature
04:21 user_722 To enable programmable text editing
04:21 user_722 JEdit has this facility via programming in BeanShell
04:21 user_722 It would be great if there was an editor where you could do this in Perl
04:22 user_722 I was wondering if it was worth opening a ticket to request this feature
04:22 user_722 Or even if anybody could give some tips on how it might be implemented
04:35 szabgab user_722, hi
04:35 szabgab habe you checked out the "my plugin" feature?
04:36 szabgab also if you enable the "Padre developer tools" plugin
04:36 szabgab you will have menu options such as "Run Document/Selection inside Padre"
04:37 szabgab that is code running in the process of padre
04:37 user_722 Thanks
04:37 szabgab just be careful not to execute "exit" :)
04:38 user_722 So is there any documentation of the text manipulation API ?
04:38 user_722 Or do you just use straight Perl ?
04:40 szabgab straight Perl
04:40 szabgab the only thing you need to know is how to get text and set text
04:40 szabgab I think there is some documentation but far from enough
04:41 user_722 Is there an example in the source code you can point me to ?
04:44 szabgab look at Padre::Document::Perl::*
04:44 szabgab get_text  or was that text_get method
04:44 szabgab sory I just woke up :)
04:45 szabgab btw you can get a better nick if you type   /nick  mynick
04:45 user_722 Thanks
04:45 user_722 So that was Padre::Document::Perl ?
04:45 szabgab and some mdules under that
04:46 user_722 My IRC client translates the :D into a smiley
04:46 szabgab yes :)
04:46 user_722 I'll have a play with that
04:46 user_722 And see how I go
04:46 user_722 Thanks for the tip
04:46 szabgab welcome
04:46 szabgab but pls change your nickname!
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07:07 Xaero this page: http://padre.perlide.org/trac​/wiki/DownloadStrawberryPerl
07:07 Xaero says use: C:\strawberry\perl\bin\wperl.exe C:\strawberry\perl\bin\padre.bat to create a shortcut to padre
07:08 Xaero so the bat file is a argument to wperl?
07:08 Xaero is that an error?
07:45 szabgab it is probably old and incorrect
07:46 Xaero hey how long does alien-wxwidgets take to install?
07:47 szabgab can be 20-30 min
07:47 szabgab depending on network speed - it downloads a huge file - and CPU
07:47 szabgab it compiles a lot
07:48 Xaero yeah, i hope it installs before the guy in #win32 manages to kill me
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08:00 szabgab I would not recommend building wx and Padre to a newcommer
08:00 szabgab if possible
08:00 szabgab I would let them use the already built version even if it is old
08:00 Xaero then only other option is to downlaod the 0.56 one
08:00 szabgab and the new version should be out any minute now
08:01 Xaero but he already installed strawberry
08:01 szabgab Xaero, yes, that's quite ok
08:01 szabgab then I'd remove Strawberry
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08:01 El_Che ikiiiimjùmlj
08:01 El_Che $
08:01 szabgab in the near future we'll have strawberry professional but in the meantime
08:01 szabgab El_Che, hi
08:01 szabgab will you be at BPW ?
08:03 El_Che szabgab: probably not. Between 2 kids not sleeping at night and the PhD is there not a lot of time left
08:04 szabgab maybe a lunch?
08:04 El_Che are you there?
08:04 szabgab I'll be there, yes
08:04 El_Che ah ok
08:05 szabgab arriving at 8 am leaving at 19:00
08:05 Xaero what is bpw?
08:05 El_Che yes, meeting will me nice
08:05 szabgab belgian perl workshop
08:07 szabgab http://szabgab.com/blog/2010/06/1275758721.html
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08:37 finanalyst i'm trying to use perl6 with modules. rakudo works - runs script, recognises modules, but highlighter doesnt
08:39 Xaero hey, if http://padre-perl-ide.googlecode.com/​files/strawberry-plus-padre-0.56.zip is installed
08:40 Xaero will adding C:\strawberry\c\bin;C:\strawberry\p​erl\site\bin;C:\strawberry\perl\bin to path be enough?
08:44 Xaero szabgab ^ ?
08:49 szabgab hi finanalyst
08:50 szabgab Xaero, I think so
08:50 Xaero thanks
08:51 szabgab finanalyst, I meant the mailing list as I have not seen azawawi here for a long time
08:51 szabgab he is very busy but maybe seeing an e-mail about Perl 6 can bring him out from hiding :)
08:51 finanalyst hi szabgab
08:52 finanalyst where can I find azawawi's email?
08:53 szabgab best to post our conversation here: http://mail.perlide.org/mailman/listinfo/padre-dev
08:53 szabgab but CC  "Ahmad Zawawi" <ahmad.zawawi@gmail.com>,
08:53 finanalyst szabgab: i sent you an email on this subject. I will copy to list
08:54 szabgab finanalyst, try to include a minimalistic example of code that is problematic
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09:24 finanalyst szabgab: posted to padre-dev and cc'd as suggested. Will also ask on #perl6
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10:04 kentnl is there a recommended way for installing Padre from inside a strawberry install? Will cpan install Padre  JustWork(TM) ?
10:05 szabgab kentnl, it will take some time but it will work
10:05 Xaero um..
10:05 szabgab or maybe not ? :-)
10:05 Xaero yeah, you will need to do some work first
10:05 kentnl iirc you need to install Alien::Wx something
10:05 szabgab but I'd recommend removing strawberry
10:05 szabgab and installing the stand-alone
10:05 Xaero for me "install Wx" "install Padre" worked
10:06 szabgab anyone know japanese here ?
10:06 szabgab I need some help
10:07 * kentnl would rather teach somebody the unixy/cpanny mentality for installing things than encourage the whole "to install something, you first visit websites, download the app, and run their gui installers" deal
10:07 Xaero kentnl, how long have you been using computers?
10:08 kentnl me? An age. Its not for me however, its for a friend :)
10:08 kentnl ( 15 years perhaps ? )
10:08 Xaero using computers for 15yrs? or 15yrs old?
10:09 kentnl 25 now, since I was 10 =)
10:09 Xaero ok
10:09 Xaero then cpan
10:09 Sewi :-)
10:09 Xaero which version of perl?
10:09 kentnl I've suggested they install 5.12.*
10:09 LeK hi
10:09 Xaero well it works from cpan
10:10 Xaero open the cpan client and type "install Wx" and then install Padre
10:10 Xaero might take a couple of hours though
10:11 LeK I'm reading the entry of alias journal about the ongoing padre thread api.... and even if I don't get all the subtleties, it sounds great! :)
10:11 kentnl the big time consumer I'd imagine is WX?
10:11 * kentnl hasn't really seen padre take a long time to build from source on *nix
10:12 Xaero it's Wx
10:12 Xaero not WX
10:12 * kentnl had a hanging shift key
10:12 Xaero yeah, you are right
10:12 finanalyst szabgab: i get the following error multiple times when starting padre under ubuntu 10.4 14:09:42: Error: Cannot set locale to 'en_GB'
10:12 finanalyst it doesnt seem to affect the functioning of padre, but its irritating
10:13 szabgab indeed
10:13 szabgab it has been like that for a while
10:13 szabgab though I get it with de_DE :-)
10:21 finanalyst szabgab: so its a known bug.
10:22 szabgab yes
10:22 finanalyst szabgab: more on the syntax checker/coloriser. The syntax checker seems to work. But there is no highlighting
10:22 finanalyst are they different functions?
10:23 szabgab yes
10:23 szabgab they were both mentioned in the blog
10:23 finanalyst so my problem is with colorising, not syntax checking?
10:24 Xaero does scintilla hilight perl6 too?
10:24 szabgab if you don't see the colors then it is colorising
10:24 szabgab or as we call it syntax highlightin
10:24 szabgab Xaero, nope
10:24 szabgab need to use STD.pm
10:25 finanalyst is STD.pm installed by cpan?
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10:52 szabgab finanalyst, I think so
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17:02 rindolf Hi all.
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18:08 sorear cognominal: so, my changes to STD have been causing breakage here?
18:35 cognominal sorear, I don't remember why I joined this channel, probably because a French monger told me about it.  I  am not using padre
18:36 Sewi cognominal: Why aren't you using Padre?
18:37 sorear I'm sorry, I meant to direct that at finanalyst
18:39 cognominal I am  using emacs,  textmate,  yi and vim.   And, that would be interesting to sorear, I am exploring the possibility of Perl 6  syntax highligther based on rakudo.  Right now, it is at the stage of pie in the sky. I don't know what sorear uses for padre.
18:40 Sewi There are Emacs and Vi plugins for Padre
18:41 sorear cognominal: I don't use padre.  I am, however, a STD hacker, and it has come to my attention that the changes I'm making to STD are having ripple effects here
18:42 cognominal soreart, in a sense, that's good. That means what you write is already used.
18:42 cognominal sorear.
18:42 Xaero so who is talking to whom?
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18:43 Xaero finanlyst had a problem with sytax hilighting for perl6, so i guess sorear is talking to him
18:43 sorear I am talking to finanalyst and whoever maintains Padre Perl6 syntax hilighting
18:43 Xaero that would be azawawi i guess, he is not here right now
18:44 Xaero so wachootalkinabout cognominal?
18:46 cognominal Xaero, sorear knows me from #perl6 and confused me with finanalyst. here, I am just a lurker and my discussion with sorear would have me more appropriate on #perl6. Sorry for the noise.
18:46 Xaero hey, no probs
18:46 cognominal s/me/been/
18:46 Xaero i'm just trying to figure out :P
18:47 cognominal good luck if you can, I can't follow the tenth of what happens in #perl6
18:48 Xaero i can't figure out much about perl5 itself so I'm not on #perl6 yet
18:49 cognominal Xaero, STD is a perl6 parser written by TimToady, and apparently sorear is written some backend usable for padre. I hope mberends's talk in the french perl workshop about the many perl6 related projects will enlight me
18:50 cognominal *enlighten
18:50 Xaero okies
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