Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2010-06-12

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01:38 Hyppolit svn: r11601 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11601
01:38 Hyppolit Update notes for release 0.64
01:38 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
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02:16 waxhead_ OK, good installs for ubuntu and vista
02:17 waxhead_ OK.. Tagging the release
02:18 waxhead_ Alias, over to you now...
02:18 waxhead_ well in a sec when you see the tag come through
02:18 waxhead_ I'll do the upload to cpan and announcement a bit later in the afternoon... but once it's tagged the release is done
02:20 Hyppolit svn: r11602 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11602
02:20 Hyppolit tag Padre-0.64
02:20 Hyppolit tags/
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02:55 kthakore_studymore Alias_: hi!
02:55 kthakore_studymore Alias_: if you have time later can you mention how you profile padre?
02:55 Alias_ NYTProf
02:55 kthakore_studymore Alias_: I have very little time until the 17th
02:56 kthakore_studymore Alias_: yeah I did that but how do I hit all the things that cost the most time (like syntax so on?)
02:56 Alias_ I don't
02:56 kthakore_studymore Alias_: ok ...
02:56 Alias_ I just started it, opened 20 files from one open dialog, and then close it
02:56 kthakore_studymore ok
02:56 kthakore_studymore Alias_: also I found a brand new crash bug
02:56 kthakore_studymore padre  --actionqueue=file.new,edit.goto,edit.join_lines
02:57 kthakore_studymore Alias_: terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc' what():  std::bad_alloc
02:57 kthakore_studymore Aborted
02:57 kthakore_studymore Alias_: I have no time gotta go cram more bye!
03:03 Hyppolit svn: r11603 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11603
03:03 Hyppolit Simplifying role name, the double wording is annoying
03:03 Hyppolit branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/lib/Padre/Wx/Role/
03:21 Hyppolit svn: r11604 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11604
03:21 Hyppolit Simplifying role name, the double wording is annoying
03:21 Hyppolit branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/lib/Padre/Wx/ branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/lib/Padre/Wx/Role/ branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/xt/
03:38 Hyppolit svn: r11605 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11605
03:38 Hyppolit Moving TaskOwner to a Role
03:38 Hyppolit branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/lib/Padre/ branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/lib/Padre/Document/ branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/lib/Padre/Role/ branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/lib/Padre/Wx/ branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/t/
03:50 Hyppolit svn: r11606 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11606
03:50 Hyppolit branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/lib/Padre/ branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/lib/Padre/Browser/ branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/lib/Padre/Wx/
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04:17 Hyppolit svn: r11607 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11607
04:17 Hyppolit DocBrowser to Browser - Part 2
04:17 Hyppolit branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/lib/Padre/ branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/lib/Padre/Browser/ branches/Padre-TaskRewrite​/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/lib/Padre/Task/ branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/lib/Padre/Wx/ branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/lib/Padre/Wx/Directory/ branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/t/
04:18 Hyppolit svn: r11608 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11608
04:18 Hyppolit DocBrowser to Browser - Part 3
04:18 Hyppolit branches/Padre-TaskRewrite/t/
04:29 * Alias_ couldn't resist any longer the half-naming of DocBrowser :(
04:36 waxhead_ Alias_, see the backlog?
04:37 waxhead_ I have a dist for 0.64 so you can abuse trunk any time you like...
04:37 Alias_ ah, ok
04:37 Alias_ I was looking at the recent uploads list
04:38 waxhead_ I haven't done all the administravia  yet... just got in from the garden.. so will get it done shortly
04:38 Alias_ ok
04:38 waxhead_ I sort of got tied up with other more important things...
04:39 waxhead_ such is life when you don't control it wholly yourself...
04:39 Alias_ totally fine
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04:39 waxhead_ hey Xaero
04:39 Alias_ I'm used to an automated release process that takes about 5 minutes :)
04:39 Alias_ I sometimes forget it takes longer for different projects :)
04:39 Xaero o/
04:40 Xaero howz it going
04:40 waxhead_ I mostly just run the release.pl script.. does all the real work.. it's the web site admin, and the release announcement that takes the most time and effort these days
04:40 waxhead_ uploading to pause I still do by logging into the site itself
04:40 Xaero 0.64 released?
04:40 waxhead_ Xaero, going fine...
04:41 waxhead_ Xaero, I have a distribution on my harddrive that installs fine on vista and ubuntu, I haven't pushed it to pause yet
04:41 Alias_ waxhead: I should give you my firefox quicksearch
04:41 waxhead_ had other things to do
04:41 Alias_ Well, assuming that the release exists somewhere as a URL
04:41 waxhead_ it does on my web server...
04:42 Xaero can't padre be packaged as a standalone app?
04:42 waxhead_ Xaero, how so?
04:43 Xaero i'm i guess it would be different on linux and windows...
04:43 Xaero what i mean is.. on linux perl is always there, but on windows padre uses strawberry..
04:44 Xaero would it be possible to package padre with it's own perl installation?
04:45 Xaero would it become too large?
04:45 waxhead_ Xaero, Cutris does that already I think
04:45 waxhead_ it's the Padre on Stawberry
04:45 Xaero that is padre+strawberry installation
04:45 Xaero ok, you guys heard of the gui loft?
04:46 waxhead_ nope
04:46 Xaero it's old and not maintained: http://www.darserman.com/Perl/Loft/
04:47 Xaero but it's hard to tell that it's written in perl
04:47 Xaero it's a exe but quite tiny
04:47 Xaero i guess previous versions of perl were tiny
04:52 Alias_ Landing Task 2.0 now
04:52 Hyppolit svn: r11609 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11609
04:52 Hyppolit Landing Task 2.0 on trunk - Part 1
04:52 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Action/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Browser/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DocBrowser/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/Devel/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/PopularityContest/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Role/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/Debug/
05:00 Hyppolit svn: r11610 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11610
05:00 Hyppolit Landing Task 2.0 - Part 2
05:00 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/ trunk/Padre/t/lib/Padre/
05:00 Alias_ Done
05:02 Hyppolit svn: r11611 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11611
05:02 Hyppolit Task 2.0 has landed on trunk, removing the no-longer-needed Padre-TaskRewrite branch
05:02 Hyppolit branches/
05:13 waxhead_ crap..
05:13 waxhead_ Alias_, did you over write Changes?
05:13 Alias_ oops
05:13 Alias_ I might have, yes
05:14 waxhead_ that's OK.. means the tar ball has the right one
05:14 waxhead_ is your svn fu good enough to get it back?
05:14 waxhead_ otherwise I'll drag it out of the tar ball and commit that
05:15 Alias_ Please
05:16 waxhead_ ok
05:16 Alias_ I'm not a particularly sophisticated svn user
05:17 waxhead_ me either... :-/
05:18 Hyppolit svn: r11612 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11612
05:18 Hyppolit Return the Changes to 0.64 release, and added post release info to top
05:18 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
05:18 waxhead_ should be right now
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05:18 Xaero any plans of shifting to a distributed vcs?
05:19 * waxhead_ thinks about svn updating after big merge
05:19 waxhead_ Xaero, nope
05:19 waxhead_ svn works well enough
05:19 Alias_ And it encourages people to commit to trunk more
05:19 Alias_ And it works on Windows, which git doesn't really
05:19 Alias_ ... yet
05:20 waxhead_ and we use at work
05:26 waxhead_ sigh...
05:27 waxhead_ upgrading Module::Install isn't working....
05:28 waxhead_ when all else fails force
05:29 waxhead_ far out it's getting cold...
05:29 * waxhead_ is tired... planted new fruit trees and other misc plants
05:29 waxhead_ hopefully I won't kill them..
05:35 waxhead_ ARGH!
05:36 waxhead Alias_,  can you op me
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05:37 Topic for #padreis now Latest Padre is 0.64 - last stable release before Task API merge, for installation see http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Download | Log: http://perlide.org/irclogs/ and http://irclog.perlgeek.de/padre/today | Pasting: http://scsys.co.uk:8001
05:41 shadowpaste "waxhead" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "test fail after updating to merged branch" (9 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/44753
05:41 waxhead right...
05:41 waxhead I'm about done with the release I think
05:44 Hyppolit svn: r11613 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11613
05:44 Hyppolit Release announcement added
05:44 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/
05:44 waxhead now I'm done..
05:49 Alias_ ok
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06:01 Alias_ Curious, there's a very large number of commits at 7-8pm every Tuesday
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06:44 Hyppolit svn: r11614 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11614
06:44 Hyppolit Flattening the task namespace - Part 1
06:44 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/PPI/
06:45 Hyppolit svn: r11615 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11615
06:45 Hyppolit Flattening the task namespace - Part 2
06:45 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/
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15:41 doubi G'day all. Whereabouts can I look on a Debian (ubuntu) install to find that nice blue butterfly image to use for Padre in the Application menu?
15:44 Sewi Hi doubi
15:45 Sewi I don't think that the Debian install has this logo as Debian people don't like it's license :-(
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15:51 doubi Sewi: I'd installed it via cpan, was just being dense as to where to look. Found it eventually: /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/auto/share​/dist/Padre/icons/padre/64x64/logo.png :)
15:51 * doubi has teh pretty menu o/
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17:07 * szabgabx is updating padre from svn, let's see what Alias did!
17:07 Xaero what's the x for?
17:11 szabgabx not at home :)
17:12 Xaero ah you are at the belgium conference?
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18:48 szabgabx Xaero, no that will be almost 2 weeks from now
18:48 szabgabx I am still in Germany
18:48 szabgabx heading home tomorrow
18:49 szabgabx something is printing Padre::Document::Perl=HASH(0xcb0e4e8)  in padre
18:50 Xaero i dunno, waxhead and Alias sent some big emails on pardre-dev, i dunno hwat they really meant but sounded like I shouldn't upgrade :D
18:50 Xaero so i'm still running 0.63
18:56 Hyppolit svn: r11616 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11616
18:56 Hyppolit gitignore another file
18:56 Hyppolit trunk/
18:57 Hyppolit svn: r11617 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11617
18:57 Hyppolit allow the PluginManager to be closed by ESC from the beginning
18:57 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
18:57 szabgabx Xaero, 0.64 is ok
18:57 Xaero so the next ones will be the unstable ones?
18:58 szabgabx and even those won't be THAT unstable
18:58 szabgabx we just don't recommend outside our IRC channel
18:58 szabgabx and I am now using the trunk and so far it is ok
18:59 Xaero ok, will upgrade later then, gtg to bed
18:59 Xaero gn
19:00 szabgabx gn
19:02 szabgabx so I am trying to use the Perl 6 plugin now and while it loads it does not seem to do anything
19:02 szabgabx but does not even complain or crash
19:05 szabgabx now it crashed :)
19:07 szabgabx Can't store CODE items at ../../lib/Storable.pm (autosplit into ../../lib/auto/Storable/_freeze.al) line 339, at /home/gabor/work/padre/Padre/lib/Padre/Task.pm line 108
19:07 szabgabx Alias, see that ?
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20:06 Steffen Alias: Considering that you just spent a lot of time thinking about asynchronous communication between threads, this might tangentially interest you: http://use.perl.org/~Mark+Le​ighton+Fisher/journal/40390 and specifically my second reply, pointing to a full Perl wrapper: http://use.perl.org/~Mark+Le​ighton+Fisher/journal/40390 and the code at http://github.com/tsee/ZeroMQ-Perl
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