Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2010-06-28

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00:55 garu Alias: issue is in FreeDesktop.pm. Although the desktop and local data dir paths are technically correct, the root user is unlikely to have those dirs, so any "-d or undef" tests will probably fail
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01:05 shadowpaste "garu" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "updating t/02_main.t to pass as root user" (40 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/45252
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01:11 garu Alias: alternatively, this doesn't change the test plan:
01:11 shadowpaste "garu" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "updating t/02_main.t to pass as root user (take 2)" (27 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/45253
02:36 Alias garu: Interesting
02:36 Alias garu: On some other operating systems, asking for the directory silently creates the directory if it doesn't exist
02:37 Alias Presumably to counter that exact problem
02:37 Alias My release tests do test for root usage, but the box I build on doesn't have FreeDesktop support
02:54 garu Alias: I see
02:54 garu Alias: well, let me know if there's anything I can do
02:54 Alias There is
02:55 garu Alias: I could go as far as setting up an account for you here :)
02:55 Alias Nah
02:55 Alias Just don't do anything that might accidentally create the XDG directories for root
02:55 Alias I'm going to add some skipping
02:55 Alias I already do something similar on Darwin, where root also can't be relied on to have those kinds of directories
02:56 garu Alias: sure thing
03:19 Alias garu: What's your real name?
03:19 Alias Or CPAN id, either will do
03:22 Alias Never mind, found it
03:23 Alias About to push a new dev release for you to try
03:25 garu Alias: thanks, let me know :)
03:25 Alias http://svn.ali.as/cpan/release​s/File-HomeDir-0.92_02.tar.gz
03:25 Alias See how that goes
03:25 Alias I'll wait before uploading
03:25 garu just a sec
03:25 Alias I'm reusing the same hacks I did for Mac root
03:26 garu nope
03:26 garu same fails
03:27 Alias Strange
03:27 Alias Can you unpack the tarball, and inside the dist directory run "pler 02"
03:27 Alias (Assuming you have pler)
03:28 Alias And then see if you get to line 84
03:29 garu sure, hang on
03:31 Alias You _should_ end up getting to 84, matching false, and then running the statements in lines 93-97
03:32 garu hmmm
03:33 garu I go from 02_main.t:48 to :102
03:33 Alias What is @File::HomeDir::ISA
03:36 garu Alias: @ISA = ( 0 'Exporter' ), $IMPLEMENTED_BY = 'File::HomeDir::FreeDesktop'
03:36 garu (taken from V File::HomeDir::ISA inside pler)
03:37 garu oh, wait
03:38 garu yeah, I think that's it
03:38 Alias oh whoops
03:39 Alias I'm an idiot
03:39 * Alias fixes
03:39 garu Alias++ # anything but an idiot :)
03:39 Alias Rerolling
03:39 Alias Hopefully this will not hit caching bugs in CPAN.pm for you
03:40 Alias (because of the LOCAL/tarball thing)_
03:40 Alias http://svn.ali.as/cpan/release​s/File-HomeDir-0.92_02.tar.gz
03:40 Alias Try again
03:41 Alias Should be a few bytes difference in size
03:43 garu 'k
03:44 garu Alias: "All tests successful"
03:44 garu \o/
03:45 Alias ok, releasing
03:46 Alias I need to kill this IRC for a bit
03:46 Alias I've pushed the dev release to the CPAN
03:46 Alias I'll do a prod one before we release Padre 0.65
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07:35 Xaero o/
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08:00 daxim jq, help me help you :p  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3112296
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10:26 Jochen_Hayek @SzabGab: here I am through pidgin :-)
10:26 szabgab congrats
10:27 Jochen_Hayek thanks!
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10:48 waxhead szabgab, home now?
11:02 tgape szabgab: I've read your proposal.  My biggest concern with it is that your payment structure moves *away* from being entirely supported by the money you're bringing in, rather than the other way.  Are you not confident that you'll actually get the members?
11:08 szabgab waxhead, yes home
11:08 szabgab tgape, what do you mean?
11:08 tgape szabgab: I would have had the 'beyond the grant' section give the same base compensation as the first 6 months, and bonus based on the full member contribution, but scaled back to 25% of member dues.  I'd have also raised the pay cap to $6,500 - that shows both confidence and ambition.
11:09 szabgab oh you mean 25% of all the member dues?
11:09 tgape Yes.
11:10 szabgab I see, it can be changed that way, I need to figure out the exact numbers though
11:10 szabgab but it only makes a difference if there some of the members drop out
11:10 szabgab otherwise it is quite similar as it just means a higher base salary
11:11 szabgab nevertheless your suggestion might look better than the original one
11:11 szabgab please post your comment as a response to the proposal as well
11:12 tgape Sure.
11:17 tgape It may not be until tonight, however - I have to "go to" work soon.
11:20 szabgab np
11:21 szabgab it also needs the approval of Karen and she is traveling right now
11:21 szabgab so do it in the Evening
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13:48 Tylee How do I configure padre to use a pre-existing installation of perl, rather than the strawberry edition installed with 0.63?
13:53 Sewi Tools -> Preferences
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13:55 Tylee Thanks Sewi... I did look there but didn't see the answer... What item in preferences would I look at specifically?
13:56 Tylee Oh man.... 'Run Parameters'...
13:56 Sewi 3. item on the left, must be something like "runtime arguments" in english
13:57 Tylee Sorry.... wasn't obvious at first....
13:57 Tylee Thanks very much!
13:59 Sewi you're welcome
14:07 Tylee Another question... Regarding alternate INC paths....
14:07 Tylee I set the 'Perl Intepreter' to my installation of per.exe....
14:08 Tylee However, its not locating the modules with that installation... So I set the 'Interpreter arguments' to: "-IC:\Program Files\Electric Cloud\ElectricCommander\perl\site\lib"
14:09 Tylee But re-running Padre still throws: 7, Error, Can't locate ElectricCommander.pm in @INC (@INC contains: C:/strawberry/perl/lib C:/strawberry/perl/site/lib C:\strawberry\perl\vendor\lib .).
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14:17 szabgab_droid hi
14:17 Tylee Hi there
14:18 szabgab_droid so I can use irc from my android
14:18 szabgab_droid this is new to me
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14:19 szabgab14 and apparently I get disconnected when the network goes down. ..
14:19 szabgab14 14?
14:20 Xaero so it's the 14th time you've connected?
14:26 Xaero for some reason I can't find any info on the android site about perl on android, it always shows up java stuff
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14:44 Tylee Greetings... how can I configure the default @INC directories?
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14:52 Sewi Tylee: There are perl interpreter arguments at the same location where you set the perl interpreter
14:54 Tylee I've configured that field to include my module folders, but invoking Padre from CLI still doesn't include them. Complains that my mod is not found in the c:\strawberry...\ folders
14:54 Sewi During syntax check?
14:54 Tylee Yes....
14:55 Sewi syntax check can't be configured this way atm :-(
14:55 Tylee Ahhhh. Ok then.
14:55 Sewi There is a ticket for it, but it's still unsolved
14:55 Sewi sorry
14:55 Tylee Thats cool. Thanks.
14:55 Sewi Try "PERLLIB=/path/to/where/you/want padre" when launching Padre, it might help
14:57 rindolf Hi all.
14:57 Xaero PERLLIB or PERL5LIB?
14:57 Xaero o/
14:57 Sewi Xaero: Shouldn't matter as long as you use perl5 :-_)
14:57 Sewi :-)
14:57 Xaero k
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16:05 szabgab Xaero, start here: http://www.socialtext.net/perl5/index.cgi?android
16:10 Xaero thanks
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17:26 jq daxim: sorry, i don't know lokalize
17:26 jq i'm using poedit, but it doesn't provide context.
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18:18 rindolf Good localtime(), #padre.
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22:38 notbenh hello, giving padre a spin again and was wondering if there is a way to change the background color?
22:38 notbenh I'm used to light text on dark background but can't seem to find anything under tools>prefs>appearance (advanced) that seems to address background color
22:39 notbenh am I missing something obvious?
22:39 szabgab View/Style
22:45 notbenh szabgab: ahh.. thanks

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