Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2010-06-30

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14:43 hmmm How do i easily add Padre to my current Strawberry 5.12 install?
14:43 Xaero from cpan
14:43 Xaero install Wx
14:43 Xaero then
14:43 Xaero install Padre
14:44 hmmm I'm on Win32 btw...
14:44 Xaero i guess that...
14:45 Xaero ...because strawberry perl was made for windows :P
14:45 hmmm okay, good, =)
14:46 hmmm I just don't know how to CPAN things...
14:46 Xaero it's easy, all you have to do is:
14:46 Xaero cpan
14:46 hmmm CPAN appears to be all Unix...
14:47 Xaero nope, cpan is all perl
14:47 Xaero type cpan
14:47 Xaero in the cmd prompt
14:47 Xaero then:
14:47 Xaero install Wx
14:47 Xaero then:
14:47 Xaero install Padre
14:48 Xaero then 2hrs later Padre is is ready fresh out of the oven :)
14:48 hmmm ... it's doing some make an stuff!
14:49 Xaero yeah
14:49 Xaero it has to be made first
14:49 hmmm It's MinGW stuff too...
14:50 Xaero i don't quite understand that ^
14:50 hmmm So now i've got a C compiler on my system?
14:50 kthakore hmmm: what error are you getting?
14:50 kthakore hmmm: yes
14:50 kthakore hmmm: strawberry will provide it for you
14:51 Xaero yeah the c compiler is a part of strawberry
14:51 kthakore Xaero: gee thanks :p
14:51 Xaero :P
14:51 hmmm That's really not wht i wanter just to see Padre...
14:52 Xaero you just want to see? that's no point. you have to use it to get a good idea
14:52 hmmm err, how did ActiveState get sucked into this snowball?
14:52 Xaero which snowball?
14:52 hmmm see/use, same ting.
14:53 hmmm THIS SnowBall!
14:53 Xaero where? i dont know what you are asking
14:54 hmmm I was just sitting here with Strawberry, now i got MinGW+ActiveState+god knows what else...
14:55 Xaero i dunno where activestate came from and what you are talking about unless you tell me what you are referring to..
14:55 hmmm All i wanted was a Pepsi...
14:55 Xaero ..strawberry and cpan and mingw are all in the strawberry folder
14:56 hmmm It looks like you don't have a C compiler and make utility installed. to install dmake and the MinGW gcc compiler using the Perl Package Man This may take a a few minutes...  Downloading ActiveState Package Repository packlist...done Updating ActiveState Package Repository database...done Syncing site PPM database with .packlists...done Downloading MinGW-5.1
14:57 hmmm Downloading dmake-4.11.20080107...done Unpacking MinGW-5.1.4.1...done Unpacking dmake-4.11.20080107...done Generating HTML for MinGW-5.1.4.1...done Generating HTML for dmake-4.11.20080107...done Updating files in site area...done 1070 files installed  Please use the `dmake` program to run commands from a Makefile!  Set up gcc environment - 3.4.5 (mingw-vista
14:58 Xaero i thought you said you had strawberry perl :-s
14:58 hmmm I thought i DID!?
14:59 hmmm 5.12.???
14:59 hmmm How do i check?
15:01 Xaero perl -V:myuname
15:01 Xaero ^ type that
15:02 hmmm myuname='';
15:03 Xaero activestate
15:03 Xaero perl -v
15:03 Xaero that should clearly say Activestate
15:04 hmmm This is perl 5, version 12, subversion 1 (v5.12.1) built for MSWin32-x86-multi-thread (with 3 registered patches, see perl -V for more detail)  Copyright 1987-2010, Larry Wall  Binary build 1201 [292674] provided by ActiveState http://www.ActiveState.com Built May 14 2010 00:34:27  Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic License or the
15:04 hmmm Good God!
15:04 Xaero a-ha!
15:04 hmmm Fudge!
15:05 Xaero activestate doesn't come with mingw and dmake without which you can't use cpan
15:05 Xaero you either have to install them from ppm or get strawberry
15:06 hmmm Horrors!  Now i have to uninstall all this Perl stuff, i do not know how that happened, can i easily run both perls?
15:06 Xaero easily? nope
15:06 Xaero but you can run both, i do
15:07 hmmm IHere i was kinda miffed that it put its load into C:>/Perl ... and all the while it was AS!!
15:07 hmmm So you run both?
15:08 Xaero yeah, before i run perl i have to set some env vars
15:08 Xaero so i put them in a batch file
15:09 hmmm for example?
15:09 Xaero set PATH=C:\strawberry\perl\site\bin;C:\strawber​ry\perl\bin;C:\strawberry\c\bin;C:\WINDOWS\s​ystem32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem
15:09 Xaero if you type that in the cmd prompt and run perl you'll run strawberry perl
15:09 Xaero assuming you put strawberry in C:\strawberry\
15:10 Xaero set PATH=C:\perl\site\bin;C:\perl\bin;C:\​strawberry\c\bin;C:\WINDOWS\system32;​C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem
15:10 hmmm Path=C:\Perl\site\bin;C:\Perl\bin;C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX\Comm m32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;C:\Program Files\AMD\AMD Machine Check A \;
15:11 Xaero what is that?
15:11 hmmm problem was i wanted perl on my development drive L:
15:11 hmmm noe c:\
15:11 hmmm er, not C:\
15:12 Xaero you have uninstall reinstall now if you want to move it
15:12 hmmm so do you just switch your PATH env variable?
15:13 hmmm actually, i was given no choice by the installer (AS).
15:13 Xaero yeah, i have those two lines (more actually but those two are the main ones) in two seperate .bat files
15:13 hmmm since you run both, what's been better?
15:13 Xaero before running perl i run the batch file to set vars
15:14 hmmm i see...
15:14 Xaero i almost never use AS
15:15 hmmm but you have both?  For bug reasons or whtevr?
15:15 Xaero i test code in both
15:15 hmmm makes sense.  =)
15:16 hmmm so, does padre work in AS?
15:16 Xaero actually I thought AS was faster since it is compiled with MSVC++ compiler
15:16 Xaero :P
15:16 hmmm VC version?
15:17 Xaero dunno
15:17 hmmm dunno: VS or Padre?
15:17 hmmm err, VC
15:17 Xaero VC version dunno
15:18 Xaero Padre runs on perl, it should on anything perl run fine on
15:18 Xaero ..theoretically
15:18 hmmm or should i ask does CPAN work with AS?  especially now that it snowballed...
15:19 Xaero cpan works with AS, but not out-of-the box
15:19 Xaero <Xaero> activestate doesn't come with mingw and dmake without which you can't use cpan
15:19 Xaero <Xaero> you either have to install them from ppm or get strawberry
15:19 hmmm did we just make my AS work with CPAN?
15:20 Xaero i think you need to get namke for AS not dmake
15:20 Xaero but dunno the setup stuff, never dunnit with AS
15:20 Xaero gtg
15:20 Xaero laterz
15:21 hmmm Thxs!
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