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kthakore |
jq: hi! |
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waxhead |
morning |
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kthakore |
waxhead: evning |
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waxhead |
kthakore, how goes it? Busy in the SDL world I see... |
| 00:42 |
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waxhead |
I was reading your blog on PDL and SDL... |
| 00:42 |
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waxhead |
I'll get around to trying that out I hope... |
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kthakore |
waxhead: cool |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11726 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11726 |
| 00:52 |
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Hyppolit |
Add missing Copyright |
| 00:52 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ |
| 01:05 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11727 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11727 |
| 01:05 |
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Hyppolit |
Perl Tidy for Release 0.65 |
| 01:05 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/Devel/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/PopularityContest/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Role/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Directory/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Role/ tr |
| 01:09 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11728 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11728 |
| 01:09 |
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Hyppolit |
Set version number for release 0.65 |
| 01:09 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Action/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Browser/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Config/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/Migrate/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/QuickFix/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/File/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/Devel/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11729 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11729 |
| 01:54 |
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Hyppolit |
tag Padre-0.65 |
| 01:54 |
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Hyppolit |
tags/ |
| 02:00 |
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kthakore |
waxhead: already? |
| 02:00 |
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kthakore |
waxhead: want me to test? |
| 02:00 |
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kthakore |
svn? |
| 02:00 |
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Hyppolit |
svn is http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]ownloadRepository |
| 02:05 |
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waxhead |
ok.. something odd with the Vista install, but a padre --reset fixed it |
| 02:05 |
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waxhead |
http://peshel.dnsalias.net/pad[…]Padre-0.65.tar.gz |
| 02:05 |
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waxhead |
test away... |
| 02:06 |
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waxhead |
I'll push it to cpan a bit later this afternoon.. I have to head out now |
| 02:06 |
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waxhead |
kthakore, yep.. sure ^^ |
| 02:06 |
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waxhead |
installed on Ubuntu and Vista fine.. apart from some screen corruption on vista when it started.. as I said padre --reset fixed that. |
| 02:06 |
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waxhead |
back later! |
| 02:07 |
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kthakore |
waxhead: it worked |
| 02:07 |
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kthakore |
waxhead: oh package |
| 02:07 |
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kthakore |
let me test that |
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waxhead |
kthakore, thanks |
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kthakore |
waxhead: context help is blank for me |
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waxhead |
garu, OK, 0.65 has been uploaded to Pause. |
| 05:03 |
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garu |
waxhead++ |
| 05:03 |
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garu |
waxhead: awesome - I'll make sure the plugin works and push it to pause as well (with padre 0.65 as a dependency) |
| 05:33 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11730 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11730 |
| 05:33 |
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Hyppolit |
Post release 0.65 updates. |
| 05:33 |
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Hyppolit |
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Hyppolit |
Whoops fixup... 0.65 won't have the right details in this file. |
| 05:33 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ |
| 05:34 |
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waxhead |
garu++ can't wait.. :) |
| 05:39 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11731 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11731 |
| 05:39 |
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Hyppolit |
Golden Ratio: You're (I'm) Doing It Wrong |
| 05:39 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ |
| 05:40 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11732 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11732 |
| 05:40 |
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Hyppolit |
Updating Module::Install version |
| 05:40 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ |
| 05:43 |
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garu |
waxhead: weird.. I think the cpan version is the same as the one in trunk |
| 05:44 |
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waxhead |
Padre or your plugin? |
| 05:44 |
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waxhead |
trunk will be showing 0.65 now |
| 05:44 |
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garu |
my plugin |
| 05:44 |
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waxhead |
oh.. |
| 05:44 |
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garu |
it shouldn't work |
| 05:45 |
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garu |
well, maybe it doesn't |
| 05:45 |
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garu |
but it loads :) |
| 05:45 |
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garu |
I'll give it a thorough run in the morning |
| 05:45 |
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garu |
(3am here) |
| 05:45 |
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garu |
g'night! |
| 05:46 |
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waxhead |
night.. |
| 05:46 |
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waxhead |
I'll give it a go here... |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11733 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11733 |
| 06:02 |
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Hyppolit |
Noting default sizing improvements |
| 06:02 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ |
| 06:04 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11734 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11734 |
| 06:04 |
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Hyppolit |
Now we have smart display-integrated defaults, we don't need to hand-code specific default sizing. |
| 06:04 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11735 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11735 |
| 06:07 |
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Hyppolit |
Nudges |
| 06:07 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder/lib/Padre/Plugin/ |
| 06:08 |
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Topic for #padreis now Latest Padre is 0.65 - unstable Task API give it a go release, for installation see http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Download | Log: http://perlide.org/irclogs/ and http://irclog.perlgeek.de/padre/today | Pasting: http://scsys.co.uk:8001 |
| 06:10 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11736 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11736 |
| 06:10 |
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Hyppolit |
Strip the "wxWidgets" string off the wxWidgets string version |
| 06:10 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11737 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11737 |
| 06:27 |
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Hyppolit |
Subtle tweaks to the versions and text in the About dialog |
| 06:27 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ |
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Alias_ |
The current release appears to be unusable |
| 06:37 |
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Alias_ |
Might be the fault of whoever used highly unix-specific code in the recent files menu refresh code |
| 06:37 |
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Alias_ |
Which is throwing exceptions all over the place and breaking the locking subsystem |
| 06:46 |
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Sewi |
gm |
| 06:47 |
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Sewi |
Alias: The recent files list source is a problem because it could lock down whole Padre if a file is no longer accessible (= on a disconnected network device) |
| 06:50 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11738 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11738 |
| 06:50 |
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Hyppolit |
Fixed the non-blocking IO problems |
| 06:50 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ |
| 06:51 |
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Alias |
Sewi: Conversely, now you can't open files on Windows because the POSIX implementation there doesn't have the concept of non-blocking |
| 06:51 |
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Alias |
waxhead: You can't release 0.65 as is |
| 06:52 |
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Sewi |
Sorry for this, so it simply failed the open because O_NONBLOCK wasn't known? |
| 06:52 |
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Alias |
No |
| 06:52 |
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Alias |
It dies because O_NONBLOCK wasn't known |
| 06:52 |
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Alias |
Which blows up the entire locking subsystem |
| 06:53 |
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Alias |
Which leaves the GUI in a permanently locked state |
| 06:53 |
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Alias |
Which means the gui never renders after that point |
| 06:53 |
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Alias |
Partly my fault for making the locking sub-system vulnerable to trivial exceptions in the lock-release sequence |
| 06:53 |
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Alias |
It also locks the database, which breaks the local configuration |
| 06:54 |
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Alias |
I've fixed the immediate problem |
| 06:54 |
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Sewi |
Alias: I was thinking about moving the check into a one-time background-task |
| 06:54 |
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Sewi |
The menu would always show everything in the history list and the background task could clean up the database. |
| 06:55 |
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Alias |
You can't talk to the database in the background |
| 06:55 |
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Alias |
Or at least, it's never been done and there's some concerns about threading |
| 06:56 |
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Alias |
Plus, it might be possible to dead-lock stuff if we're not careful |
| 06:57 |
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Alias |
If the non-blocking fix you added makes it fast enough now, it's going to be tricky to find that last bit of performance |
| 06:58 |
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Sewi |
It's no question of performance, the O_NONBLOCK saves Padre from waiting on a file lock but it still can't fight the network-path-is-no-longer-connected thing which still freezes Padre. |
| 06:59 |
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Alias |
What's causing it? |
| 06:59 |
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Alias |
Where's the block coming from? |
| 06:59 |
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Sewi |
The disk-IO is blocking, it's no Padre or Perl fault |
| 06:59 |
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Sewi |
But if it would block the bg task, Padre should not freeze |
| 07:00 |
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Alias |
The disk io from what operation? |
| 07:00 |
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Alias |
Which line of code? |
| 07:02 |
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Sewi |
Every try to access the file, doesn't matter if it's a -e, -f, open or sysopen |
| 07:05 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11739 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11739 |
| 07:05 |
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Hyppolit |
When calling arbitrary delayed methods during a lock-release we become vulnerable to exceptions, trap and ignore them so that the failure doesn't cascade fatally into the rest of the locking system. |
| 07:05 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ |
| 07:05 |
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Alias |
So the non-blocking code blocks? |
| 07:06 |
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Alias |
That would seem to be counter to the principle of being non-blocking :) |
| 07:08 |
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Sewi |
It doesn't block if the file is locked by file-locking (flock & others), but if the OS is waiting for the IO call which should complete fast but doesn't do, it waits. |
| 07:09 |
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Alias |
Can things like POE and such tolerate the same kind of errors? |
| 07:09 |
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Alias |
How do they deal with non-blocking open? |
| 07:10 |
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Sewi |
It's on OS level. so everything doing a "fopen" or "stat" system call on that file will block. Maybe AIO would work, but it's highly unix-specific :-) |
| 07:11 |
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Sewi |
I asked the perlmonks about this: http://perlmonks.org/?node_id=846056 |
| 07:12 |
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Sewi |
I also tried that usafe signals thing but it didn't help, too |
| 07:12 |
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Alias |
I wonder what the Wx filesystem layer does |
| 07:12 |
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Alias |
We're not using it atm |
| 07:12 |
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Alias |
But Wx being an async loop has an async file api |
| 07:12 |
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Alias |
(That we don't use) |
| 07:14 |
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Alias |
wxFile::Access |
| 07:14 |
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Alias |
That would be the most likely option |
| 07:14 |
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Alias |
Try it and see if it blocks too |
| 07:16 |
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Alias |
When does this problem occur for you? |
| 07:16 |
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Alias |
At the instant that the network filesystem drops? |
| 07:17 |
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Sewi |
For example if I unplug the cable from my netbook and switch over to wlan: It tried to access the mounts using the new local IP (can't use the wired IP any longer) and this is failing |
| 07:23 |
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Alias |
Well, whatever you are doing to fix this problem, try to keep it in unix-specific blocks |
| 07:23 |
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Alias |
Take a look at what I did to fix your code |
| 07:23 |
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Alias |
It's highly unlikely anything tricky will translate to Windows |
| 07:25 |
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Sewi |
I'd move the check into a task which could use -e and run in the background |
| 07:25 |
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Sewi |
The DB usage might be a small problem but should be solveable |
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waxhead |
broken release? |
| 07:43 |
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waxhead |
:( |
| 07:44 |
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waxhead |
OK.. I'm heading out now... if there's a fix for the broken bits then I'll do another release tonight to limit the damage... |
| 07:44 |
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waxhead |
0.65 is already uploaded to cpan... |
| 07:47 |
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Sewi |
What about the memory problems? |
| 07:49 |
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Sewi |
The about-dialog seems to be broken, too, it doesn't do any rendering |
| 07:50 |
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Alias |
wxahead: We'll need to do a 0.66 immediately |
| 07:50 |
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Alias |
waxhead: ^^^ |
| 07:50 |
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Alias |
trun kis ready to go |
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waxhead |
Alias, trunk is right to release off? |
| 11:16 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11740 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11740 |
| 11:16 |
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Hyppolit |
Getting ready for bug fix release 0.66 |
| 11:16 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ |
| 11:18 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11741 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11741 |
| 11:18 |
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Hyppolit |
project tidy for release 0.66 |
| 11:18 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ |
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rindolf |
Hi all. |
| 11:19 |
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waxhead |
Alias, any last issues to go? |
| 11:20 |
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waxhead |
hey rindolf |
| 11:20 |
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rindolf |
waxhead: hi. What's up? |
| 11:21 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11742 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11742 |
| 11:21 |
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Hyppolit |
Bumping version to 0.66 |
| 11:21 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Action/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Browser/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Config/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/Migrate/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/QuickFix/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/File/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/Devel/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre |
| 11:21 |
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rindolf |
So, is 0.66 out soon? |
| 11:25 |
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waxhead |
yeah... |
| 11:25 |
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waxhead |
shorted ever release cycle I think... |
| 11:25 |
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waxhead |
0.64->0.66 in less than a day |
| 11:26 |
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waxhead |
just doing release testing now.. then start building and then a release to test |
| 11:31 |
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waxhead |
Alias, ping |
| 11:32 |
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shadowpaste |
"waxhead" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "Tests failing for release." (11 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/45373 |
| 11:32 |
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waxhead |
Alias, ^^^^ |
| 11:32 |
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waxhead |
Sewi, ^^^^ |
| 11:34 |
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Sewi |
waxhead: Did you try again? |
| 11:34 |
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waxhead |
try what again? |
| 11:34 |
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Sewi |
run the tests |
| 11:34 |
|
* Sewi |
updating & testing... |
| 11:34 |
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waxhead |
Sewi, prove -lv t/02-new.t |
| 11:36 |
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waxhead |
oh.. these look like tests against config... |
| 11:37 |
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waxhead |
didn't Alias do something to improve the config ? |
| 11:37 |
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waxhead |
- Improved the quality and integration of the default window size (ADAMK) |
| 11:37 |
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waxhead |
I wonder if that's anything to do with it... when you look at the tests it looks like it's check the GUI stuff... |
| 11:38 |
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szabgab |
I recall seeing some reports about .padre being owned by root |
| 11:38 |
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Sewi |
02 is still running here |
| 11:39 |
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szabgab |
I guess at least one of the tests creates it |
| 11:40 |
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waxhead |
Sewi, it's passing? |
| 11:41 |
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waxhead |
hmmm.. the last change I show here for that line is Adam |
| 11:41 |
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waxhead |
he's set it to -1 |
| 11:41 |
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waxhead |
and the test is testing for 40 |
| 11:41 |
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waxhead |
Can't raise him though to ask if that's what he meant... |
| 11:43 |
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waxhead |
we could set it back to the tests values? |
| 11:43 |
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Sewi |
It's waiting for STDIN input and throwing out strange error before the first test. |
| 11:45 |
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waxhead |
OK... setting Padre::Config back to the values the tests are expecting fixes this test... |
| 11:45 |
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waxhead |
however what I'm not sure about is if that is what Adam really meant... |
| 11:45 |
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szabgab |
that sounds bad |
| 11:45 |
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szabgab |
Alias, Alias Alias !!!!! ^^^^^ |
| 11:46 |
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szabgab |
Alias, wake up !!!! |
| 11:46 |
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waxhead |
szabgab, well, the thing is, if adam meant -1 then the tests need to be changed to -1... |
| 11:46 |
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waxhead |
so it's a bit of a 50/50 call... |
| 11:46 |
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szabgab |
we should try to understand what he wanted |
| 11:46 |
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waxhead |
change the test to the code, or the code to the tests???? |
| 11:46 |
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szabgab |
otherwise those tests are meaningless |
| 11:46 |
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waxhead |
szabgab, from the change file: |
| 11:46 |
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Sewi |
which one is newer, test or code? |
| 11:46 |
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waxhead |
- Improved the quality and integration of the default window size (ADAMK) |
| 11:47 |
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waxhead |
code |
| 11:47 |
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waxhead |
I'd say |
| 11:47 |
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Sewi |
Update the test. |
| 11:47 |
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waxhead |
by setting -1 I'd say that it would trigger some sort of initial testing/checking before setting... |
| 11:47 |
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szabgab |
someone should hit Adam with some heavy material so he will run the tests before committing a change |
| 11:47 |
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Sewi |
This release needs heavy don't-use-except-for-testing-warnings anyway. |
| 11:47 |
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waxhead |
it's why we are release as unstable... |
| 11:47 |
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szabgab |
and make sure his intentions are backed up by the tests |
| 11:49 |
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Sewi |
Why do we need a newer Wx than 0.96 for rendering HTML correctly? Everything was find with the About page not long ago, now it's broken. |
| 11:49 |
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Sewi |
4 tests failing in 02-new, all get -1 and expect other values |
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|
* waxhead |
sent email to alias just in case it's quicker |
| 11:51 |
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waxhead |
Sewi, that's the failures I get |
| 11:51 |
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waxhead |
if you look at the 'blame' for Padre::Config you can see Adam changed those values to -1 |
| 11:52 |
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waxhead |
is he on twitter? |
| 11:52 |
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* waxhead |
isn't |
| 11:52 |
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Sewi |
Send him a SMS or call him up (depending on your local time) :-) |
| 11:52 |
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szabgab |
waxhead, he is in Australia not in twitetr |
| 11:52 |
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waxhead |
don't have his mobile... |
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* waxhead |
thinks he should though! |
| 11:53 |
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waxhead |
at least I'm in the same time zone has him.. |
| 11:53 |
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waxhead |
mind you I odn't keep his waking hours! |
| 11:53 |
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waxhead |
what game is he playing these days? |
| 11:54 |
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kthakore |
whats wrong folks? |
| 11:55 |
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waxhead |
failing tests... |
| 11:55 |
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waxhead |
just unsure what the intent was with the change... |
| 11:56 |
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waxhead |
either change the code to what the tests were testing for, or change the test to reflect the new code |
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waxhead |
what's the plan then? |
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waxhead |
change the code or the tests? |
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waxhead |
hey!!! |
| 12:06 |
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waxhead |
Alias |
| 12:06 |
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waxhead |
Alias__, can you check the back logs, or want the summary? |
| 12:07 |
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Alias__ |
summary |
| 12:07 |
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waxhead |
- Improved the quality and integration of the default window size (ADAMK) |
| 12:07 |
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waxhead |
prove -lv t/02-new.t |
| 12:08 |
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Alias__ |
checking |
| 12:08 |
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waxhead |
the problem appears to be in Padre::Config, where you set the values to -1 |
| 12:08 |
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waxhead |
the tests are checking for 40,20,800,600 |
| 12:09 |
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waxhead |
we were guessing what to do, change tests or change code.. |
| 12:11 |
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Alias__ |
tests |
| 12:11 |
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Alias__ |
We used those 40,20,etc because the default -1,-1 of Wx sucked |
| 12:12 |
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Alias__ |
Padre::Wx::Display now provides a far better default than Wx itself |
| 12:12 |
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waxhead |
ok... you want to commit the changes? |
| 12:12 |
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waxhead |
or I'll do it if needs be |
| 12:13 |
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Alias__ |
I will |
| 12:13 |
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waxhead |
cool... |
| 12:16 |
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waxhead |
when? |
| 12:16 |
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waxhead |
:) |
| 12:19 |
|
Hyppolit |
svn: r11743 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11743 |
| 12:19 |
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Hyppolit |
Moving back to a pure default -1 rect |
| 12:19 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/t/ |
| 12:22 |
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waxhead |
ok.. tests pass |
| 12:22 |
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waxhead |
just testing more now |
| 12:23 |
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Alias__ |
ditto here |
| 12:25 |
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waxhead |
getting there... |
| 12:26 |
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waxhead |
that's better! |
| 12:29 |
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waxhead |
sweet... |
| 12:31 |
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waxhead |
anyone want to pip it? |
| 12:32 |
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waxhead |
still getting Scalar leaked, but installed OK on ubuntu... |
| 12:32 |
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waxhead |
about to tag it... |
| 12:32 |
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Alias__ |
Yeah, I expect to see some Scalar leaked |
| 12:32 |
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Alias__ |
We'll have to chase them down again, whoever did it last time |
| 12:32 |
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Alias__ |
I tried not to get hung up on details to land the big changes |
| 12:32 |
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waxhead |
steffen wasn't it? |
| 12:33 |
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Alias__ |
Can't recall, but probably |
| 12:33 |
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Alias__ |
I also don't understand WHY they happen |
| 12:34 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11744 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11744 |
| 12:34 |
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Hyppolit |
tag Padre-0.66 |
| 12:34 |
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Hyppolit |
tags/ |
| 12:36 |
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waxhead |
http://peshel.dnsalias.net/pad[…]Padre-0.66.tar.gz |
| 12:40 |
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Alias__ |
I get test failures |
| 12:40 |
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Alias__ |
When installing via pip, but not with the checkout |
| 12:43 |
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waxhead |
Alias__, really? |
| 12:43 |
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Alias__ |
xt/actions.t ....................... 1/? Use of uninitialized value $devpl in concatenation (.) or string at xt/actions.t line 47 Use of uninitialized value $devpl in concatenation (.) or string at xt/actions.t line 47. |
| 12:43 |
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waxhead |
I'm still waiting on the vista box.. |
| 12:44 |
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waxhead |
0.66 installed fine on my windows box |
| 12:44 |
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Alias__ |
That said, it's an xt test |
| 12:44 |
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Alias__ |
So it will make no difference to an end user install |
| 12:45 |
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Alias__ |
I just happened to still have RELEASE_TESTING on |
| 12:45 |
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waxhead |
ok... |
| 12:45 |
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waxhead |
ah.. |
| 12:45 |
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waxhead |
that does it! |
| 12:45 |
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waxhead |
So what was the problem with 0.65? |
| 12:45 |
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waxhead |
file locking on win32? |
| 12:47 |
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Alias__ |
Unix-specific filesystem code that crashed on Windows, right in the middle of the unlocking phase of Padre::Locker |
| 12:47 |
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Alias__ |
Which cascaded into the rest of the unlock process, and left the gui completely locked |
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Alias__ |
Permanently, once you load any file |
| 12:48 |
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waxhead |
interesting.. |
| 12:48 |
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waxhead |
ok.. it's in the release announcement... |
| 12:48 |
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Sewi |
Throw away this sysopen thing if it's a problem. |
| 12:49 |
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waxhead |
uploaded to pause |
| 12:49 |
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Alias__ |
Sewi: I wrapped if ( WIN32 ) { -f } else { NONBLOCK } |
| 12:49 |
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Sewi |
It helps in case of flocked/fcntl-locked files but didn't help on the problem I was investigating |
| 12:49 |
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Sewi |
Alias: I saw, but feel free to revert back to -e if there are any further problems. |
| 12:52 |
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Alias__ |
It's ok |
| 12:52 |
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Alias__ |
Although people might find it odd |
| 12:53 |
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Alias__ |
If locked files dissapear periodically from recent files |
| 12:53 |
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Alias__ |
But I'm happy to leave it for now |
| 12:53 |
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Alias__ |
(Since it doesn't run on my machine anyway) |
| 12:55 |
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Sewi |
Do you use any *ix? |
| 12:57 |
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Alias__ |
Not on the desktop |
| 12:57 |
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Alias__ |
Windows desktop, Linux servers |
| 12:57 |
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Alias__ |
For the most part |
| 12:57 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11745 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11745 |
| 12:57 |
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Hyppolit |
post release update |
| 12:57 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ |
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|
Topic for #padreis now Latest Padre is 0.66 - If you have 0.65 upgrade now, for installation see http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Download | Log: http://perlide.org/irclogs/ and http://irclog.perlgeek.de/padre/today | Pasting: http://scsys.co.uk:8001 |
| 13:01 |
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waxhead |
that's everything I think... |
| 13:03 |
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waxhead |
szabgab, did you get the url for 0.66? ^^^ |
| 13:10 |
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waxhead |
OK.. lets hope this release lasts a little longer... |
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Alias__ |
Hopefully it should be |
| 13:25 |
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waxhead |
Ok, to bed... |
| 13:25 |
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waxhead |
nite |
| 13:35 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: oh hai! |
| 13:36 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: how do we (frozen-bubble) make a desktop file for windows and linux? |
| 13:36 |
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Alias__ |
Did you see my use.perl post? |
| 13:37 |
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Alias__ |
Also, look at Padre::Desktop for the weirdo Win32 stuff you need to do |
| 13:40 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: yeah I did |
| 13:40 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: padre::desktop? |
| 13:40 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: oh also Frozen-Bubble is complete for windows now |
| 13:41 |
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Alias__ |
I played it this morning |
| 13:41 |
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Alias__ |
Only problem left is launching the thing |
| 13:43 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: ok |
| 13:43 |
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Alias__ |
kthakore: Fancy an online game? |
| 13:43 |
|
* Alias__ |
is logged into the net |
| 13:43 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: fb? |
| 13:43 |
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kthakore |
sure |
| 13:44 |
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Alias__ |
I'm on the german server |
| 13:44 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: sure |
| 13:46 |
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Alias__ |
What happened? |
| 13:46 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: join a game |
| 13:46 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: my game |
| 13:46 |
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kthakore |
bah |
| 13:46 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: ok where? |
| 13:46 |
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Alias__ |
Start your game |
| 13:47 |
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kthakore |
done |
| 13:48 |
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kthakore |
bah |
| 13:48 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: how do I get balls onto you thing? |
| 13:48 |
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Alias__ |
Pretty sure you need to drop balls that aren't the matched colour |
| 13:48 |
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kthakore |
ah! |
| 13:49 |
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Alias__ |
Kinda funny you port it for months, and can't win :) |
| 13:49 |
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kthakore |
yeah |
| 13:49 |
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kthakore |
... |
| 13:49 |
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kthakore |
I suck |
| 13:51 |
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Alias__ |
Whoa, wth :) |
| 13:51 |
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kthakore |
I suck sooo much |
| 13:52 |
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Alias__ |
This is why I never can get around to writing games |
| 13:52 |
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Alias__ |
I much prefer playing other people's :) |
| 13:53 |
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kthakore |
hehe |
| 13:53 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: yeah I am trying to fix a nasty PERL_DESTRUCT_LEVEL bug |
| 13:54 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: well you can help me port the windows fb-server |
| 13:54 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: it is in C right now and can't compile |
| 13:55 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: good game! |
| 13:55 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: the only thing that doesn't work in windows is lan play |
| 13:55 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: becuase of that server |
| 13:56 |
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Alias__ |
ah |
| 13:56 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: bah he opened 3 more bugs |
| 13:59 |
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Alias__ |
:) |
| 13:59 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: gah ... |
| 13:59 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: I just wanna release this! |
| 13:59 |
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kthakore |
fracking bugs |
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Alias__ |
BTW, alpha blending breaks down for me if I turn graphics off the highest level |
| 14:00 |
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Alias__ |
But, tbh, I don't care :) |
| 14:00 |
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Alias__ |
I just want to work out how to wrap this in something simple enough for gamers to launch |
| 14:01 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: I fixed it! |
| 14:01 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: see github |
| 14:01 |
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Alias__ |
For strawberry professional, it should be easy to make a simple "Games for Perl" sub-menu |
| 14:01 |
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kthakore |
yeah |
| 14:01 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: I will leave that in your hands. I don't understand how desktop icons work |
| 14:01 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: I prefer a terminal |
| 14:02 |
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Alias__ |
Nobody uses desktop icons any more anyway really |
| 14:02 |
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Alias__ |
It's a bit of a holdover |
| 14:03 |
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Alias__ |
Most dialogs that offer to install one, default it off |
| 14:03 |
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Alias__ |
So I prefer just doing the start menu |
| 14:03 |
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kthakore |
we can put in start menu? |
| 14:04 |
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kthakore |
how? |
| 14:04 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: also is there a gui (for windows) CPAN installer? |
| 14:04 |
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Alias__ |
In Strawberry Professional, we would add a special entry for you |
| 14:04 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: yay! |
| 14:04 |
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Alias__ |
For the CPAN install, it's a way bigger problem |
| 14:04 |
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kthakore |
ok |
| 14:05 |
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Alias__ |
I know how to theoretically do it |
| 14:05 |
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Alias__ |
What I don't know is how to do it right and scalably |
| 14:06 |
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kthakore |
ok |
| 14:06 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: leave that for later I guess |
| 14:07 |
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Alias__ |
Yeah |
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Alias__ |
As far as I'm concerned, the REAL power here is in being in the default install |
| 14:07 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: it looks like besides web and oop stuff in perl. The rest of the scope is not much explored in perl land. |
| 14:07 |
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Alias__ |
In the same way as Windows Solitaire is |
| 14:09 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: YAYA! |
| 14:10 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: SDL now leaks nothing! |
| 14:10 |
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kthakore |
before |
| 14:10 |
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kthakore |
indirectly lost: 2,682,169 bytes in 53,383 blocks |
| 14:10 |
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kthakore |
and now |
| 14:10 |
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kthakore |
indirectly lost: 0 bytes in 0 blocks |
| 14:10 |
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kthakore |
MUAHAHAHA |
| 14:10 |
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kthakore |
before definitely lost: 21,889 bytes in 92 blocks |
| 14:10 |
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kthakore |
and now |
| 14:11 |
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kthakore |
definitely lost: 14,119 bytes in 180 blocks |
| 14:11 |
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kthakore |
yay! |
| 14:11 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: bah ... |
| 14:13 |
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sorear |
I don't beleive in "definitely lost" |
| 14:13 |
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sorear |
Or has Rice finally been overturned? |
| 14:15 |
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kthakore |
sorear: well the definately lost is all in perl_yyparse |
| 14:15 |
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kthakore |
sorear: does that mean nonweakened references? |
| 14:16 |
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sorear |
what it *means* is that valgrind has solved the halting problem |
| 14:16 |
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sorear |
I have a suspicion it's lying |
| 14:16 |
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kthakore |
sorear: what? |
| 14:26 |
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kthakore |
sorear: yay! you were right! |
| 14:27 |
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kthakore |
sorear: valgrind lies on preallocated X11 buffers |
| 14:27 |
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kthakore |
I am mem leak free! MUAHAHHAA |
| 14:28 |
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sorear |
a mem leak isn't worth fixing unless it's >1MB or >O(1), imo |
| 14:28 |
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kthakore |
14 kb is ok then? |
| 14:28 |
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sorear |
yes |
| 14:28 |
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kthakore |
sorear: well it was intdirectly leaking 2.3 MB before |
| 14:28 |
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kthakore |
sorear: without the destruct_level |
| 14:28 |
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sorear |
especially for a big app like Padre |
| 14:28 |
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kthakore |
sorear: this is for SDL |
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kthakore |
sorear: sowwy |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11746 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11746 |
| 16:07 |
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Hyppolit |
The skeletal beginnings of a task that will let us replace Ack with our own search. It should give us better control over search, and let us remove some dependencies as a bonus. |
| 16:07 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r11747 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11747 |
| 16:08 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/ |
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danlucraft |
oh cool |
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danlucraft |
Alias: what will you replace Ack with? |
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danlucraft |
Alias__: an indexing service? or will yo keep with a scanning method? |
| 17:17 |
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Alias__ |
Nope, a manual search |
| 17:17 |
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Alias__ |
Indexing is painful and a bit wasteful |
| 17:17 |
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Alias__ |
Plus, who knows what root they want to use |
| 17:17 |
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Alias__ |
So you'd have to index everything in the world |
| 17:18 |
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Alias__ |
And that way lies trouble |
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danlucraft |
Alias__: indexing a project wouldn't be too bad, would it? |
| 17:23 |
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kthakore |
danlucraft++ |
| 17:23 |
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kthakore |
Alias__: atleast give us that! |
| 17:29 |
|
* PerlJam |
wishes padre wasn't so "project specific" even. |
| 17:30 |
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PerlJam |
but, on demand indexing wouldn't be so bad (at least that way the user would be cognizant of the index enough to know when it needs to be rebuilt) |
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Sewi |
PerlJam: It starts to be bad once Padre starts indexing your .mp3 collection as text :-) |
| 17:36 |
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PerlJam |
or maybe even, on first search of a dir ... "I haven't seen this directory before, should I index it before continuing the search?" or some such |
| 17:36 |
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PerlJam |
Sewi: there could be a predefined set of rules about which file types to not index |
| 17:37 |
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PerlJam |
It gets bad quick though whenever you do have indexing as there are all sorts of questions |
| 17:38 |
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Sewi |
PerlJam: You can't match everything. I got a directory with some 300.000 files organized in sub-dirs. It's application-specific neccessary to keep them this way, but Padre would start to run into things he shouldn't. |
| 17:39 |
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Sewi |
Next one: If a program starts scanning your hard disk, what would you think in terms of privacy? |
| 17:39 |
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PerlJam |
indeed. |
| 17:40 |
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PerlJam |
I see both sides though. And removing the ack crutch from padre is a good first step to allow that part to be configurable :) |
| 17:40 |
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Sewi |
The new directory tree cache is already scanning masses of things it shouldn't - for the price of Padre eating much memory and cpu resources. |
| 17:41 |
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Sewi |
What about using any running indexer service? The user should have configured this (usually). There is one on Windows and I think there is one on Ubuntu, too. |
| 17:41 |
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Sewi |
Yep, it's called beagle |
| 17:41 |
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Sewi |
Simply re-use existing data |
| 17:58 |
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szabgab |
http://svok.blogspot.com/2010/[…]ntation-team.html |
| 18:07 |
|
* PerlJam |
still wishes that "perldoc blah" would just DWIM instead of "perldoc -f foo" or "perldoc -O '='" or "perldoc -q 'is a number'" etc. |
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szabgabx |
weir, perl Makefile.PL seem to be stuck after Writing makefile for Padre |
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szabgabx |
on Win 7 PAdre 0.66 |
| 19:35 |
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szabgabx |
on trunk it seems to work well (after installing Module::Install) |
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