Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2010-07-07

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01:18 kthakore Alias: wanna see something cool?
01:19 kthakore Alias: my Nintendo DS assignment !
01:19 kthakore \o/
01:19 Hyppolit svn: r11800 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11800
01:19 Hyppolit refactor. --> perl.
01:19 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
02:04 Hyppolit svn: r11801 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11801
02:04 Hyppolit - Added the "Move POD to __END__" refactoring that lets you extract all
02:04 Hyppolit the POD scattered through a document, merge it together, and move it
02:04 Hyppolit to the bottom of the file after an __END__ statement (ADAMK)
02:04 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
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02:10 * Alias__ lands POD endification
02:23 Hyppolit svn: r11802 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11802
02:23 Hyppolit Save the original newline type as well
02:23 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
02:30 Hyppolit svn: r11803 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11803
02:30 Hyppolit If the Open Selection expression only matches one file, immediately open it without showing a pointless dialog.
02:30 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
02:32 * Alias__ chips away at some bits and pieces that should save himself time
02:59 Hyppolit svn: r11804 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11804
02:59 Hyppolit Skip win32 tests entirely unless release or author testing
02:59 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
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04:13 Hyppolit svn: r11805 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11805
04:13 Hyppolit Centre dialogs on parent
04:13 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Role/
04:15 Hyppolit svn: r11806 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11806
04:15 Hyppolit Class rename - Part 1
04:15 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder​/lib/Padre/Plugin/FormBuilder/
04:31 Hyppolit svn: r11807 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11807
04:31 Hyppolit Starting conversion to dogfooding generated dialog
04:31 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder​/lib/Padre/Plugin/FormBuilder/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder/t/
04:32 Hyppolit svn: r11808 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11808
04:32 Hyppolit Whitespace nudgery
04:32 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder/t/
04:33 Hyppolit svn: r11809 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11809
04:33 Hyppolit Whitespace nudgery
04:33 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder/t/
04:33 Hyppolit svn: r11810 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11810
04:33 Hyppolit Newlines busted
04:33 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder/t/
05:27 Hyppolit svn: r11811 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11811
05:27 Hyppolit Tweaks to the generated Perl code so that sizers work better
05:27 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder​/lib/Padre/Plugin/FormBuilder/
05:37 waxhead Alias__, are you seeing test failures in 71-perl.t?
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05:41 waxhead Alias, ^^
05:41 waxhead Can't use string ("=pod") as an ARRAY ref while "strict refs" in use at /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1/PPI/Token/Pod.pm line 73.
05:42 Alias waxhead: Say what now?
05:42 waxhead I'm seeing a test failure in t/71-perl.t
05:42 waxhead that's the output.. I'm just looking at the test trying to see why..
05:46 Alias Run Makefile.PL
05:50 waxhead done
05:50 waxhead make && make test?
05:50 Alias And Makefile.PL doesn't bitch about missing modules?
05:51 waxhead Alias, nope.. hasn't for a while... has there been a version bump for something?
05:51 Alias yes
05:51 Alias You are at the head of trunk right?
05:51 waxhead yep
05:51 Alias What version of PPI does it say it needs in MAkefile.PL
05:51 waxhead alias, ignore me.. PPI is out of date
05:51 waxhead sorry
05:52 Alias We really should make Makefile.PL not generate Makefile in author mode if there's missing dependencies
05:53 waxhead What's author mode?
05:53 waxhead AUTHOR=1 ?
05:53 Alias When you run Makefile.PL, and it fails to find a bundled inc directory
05:53 Alias A pre-existing inc means that it's being installed from a CPAN tarball
05:53 Alias Thus end user
05:53 Alias If not, it's a svn checkout
05:53 Alias Probably
05:54 waxhead cool.. then it's something that's testable
05:54 Alias Module::Install provides author_mode
05:54 Alias WriteMakeFile(...) unless author_mode; :)
05:54 waxhead all tests pass...
05:54 waxhead that's the first in a while for me
06:00 waxhead so instead of WriteAll WriteMakeFile...
06:04 waxhead Alias, did you get the screenshot?
06:04 szabgab_ Alias, what's going on with the C++ version of PPI ?
06:05 Alias yeah
06:05 Alias szabgab, it moves in fits and starts
06:05 Alias It's just the tokenzier
06:16 Hyppolit svn: r11812 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11812
06:16 Hyppolit Grammar fix for GoTo based on daxim's  http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/wiki/TranslationStyle document.
06:16 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
06:16 Hyppolit svn: r11813 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11813
06:16 Hyppolit Grammar fix for GoTo based on daxim's  http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/wiki/TranslationStyle document.
06:16 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
06:18 Alias__ While you are playing with GoTo, can you make it aware of different newline types?
06:18 Alias__ Something is wrong there...
06:21 szabgab_ Alias__, I think Shmuel is waiting for you
06:22 Hyppolit svn: r11814 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11814
06:22 Hyppolit Minor wording changes to Dialog.
06:22 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
06:22 Alias__ I didn't think anyone was waiting for me
06:22 szabgab_ and I think it would be awesome to move it forward - I am trying to get him give a talk about it at YAPC::Asia
06:22 Alias__ I released the hooks they needed in PPI 2.212
06:22 Alias__ er, 1.212
06:22 szabgab_ I think I'll take that 3 person conversation and move it to our mailing list
06:22 szabgab_ and start nagging you guys :)
06:23 waxhead what mailing list?
06:23 Sewi waxhead: There is a Padre developer mailing list :-)
06:24 waxhead :-p
06:26 waxhead oh.. move pod to end in the refactor!
06:26 waxhead nice...
06:26 szabgab_ padre-dev
06:27 waxhead ok
06:27 waxhead didn't want to miss out.. :)
06:29 Hyppolit svn: r11815 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11815
06:29 Hyppolit Grammar fix based on daxim's  http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/wiki/TranslationStyle document.
06:29 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
06:31 Hyppolit svn: r11816 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11816
06:31 Hyppolit Grammar fix based on daxim's  http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/wiki/TranslationStyle document.
06:31 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
06:32 Hyppolit svn: r11817 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11817
06:32 Hyppolit Grammar fix based on daxim's  http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/wiki/TranslationStyle document.
06:32 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/
06:34 Hyppolit svn: r11818 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11818
06:34 Hyppolit Grammar fix based on daxim's  http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/wiki/TranslationStyle document.
06:34 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
06:35 Hyppolit svn: r11819 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11819
06:35 Hyppolit Minor capitalisation change.
06:35 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
06:36 * waxhead wonders what's not to like about the Ack Find in files...
06:38 Hyppolit svn: r11820 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11820
06:38 Hyppolit Not longer excited or shouting : http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/wiki/TranslationStyle
06:38 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
06:39 waxhead wow.. daxim found a lot of good stuff in the wording...
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07:35 waxhead why doesn't Data::Dumper work in a Padre class?
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08:42 Alias Because it hasn't been loaded?
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09:02 rindolf Hi all.
09:39 waxhead it should be loaded...
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09:46 Alias "should"
09:46 Alias rindolf: hi
09:47 rindolf Hi Alias
09:47 rindolf Alias: what's up?
09:47 Alias You, saying hi
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12:57 kthakore Alias: hi
12:58 Alias \o
13:07 waxhead alias, did you write all of the directory tree code?
13:08 Alias new or old?
13:08 waxhead new
13:08 Alias yes
13:09 Alias I was developing what I think is the best model for gui stuff
13:10 Alias You spawn a task, the task fetches an abstract data structure in the background, saves it to the gui representation, and then the realtime bit renders the gui fragments from the abstract structure
13:13 waxhead ok.. that's fine.. I'm starting to piece the way it works together...
13:13 Sewi What about that read-only-one-level-of-subdirs - idea?
13:13 waxhead however I'm totally stumped on how to render dirs first
13:13 Alias Ah
13:14 Alias What I'd do, personally, is change the order in the task
13:14 waxhead one level only would be good I think, and on expand search one level only again
13:14 Alias The way I return the data is REALLY not amenable to resorting
13:14 waxhead alias, no it's not.. :)
13:14 waxhead it's doing my head in big time...
13:14 Alias Don't even try
13:15 Alias Look in the directory tree walker code in the ::Task
13:15 Alias And do it there
13:15 waxhead good.. I'll stop.. I've been churning over this all day trying to think of a way to do it
13:15 waxhead I looked at the task too.. wasn't sure I should modify it there
13:15 Alias Somewhere near readdir
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15:35 xsub Is there a way to run Padre separate from CMD (window) on Windows? I am UNIX-like-guy made to work on Windows. I like the way gvim (on Windows) works, however I am aware of difference: padre.bat runs Perl code which is not console-detachable... Has anyone any idea what should/could be done to make Padre work as separate process? (I am willing to help on it)
15:37 szabgab_ xsub, I am not sure what you are saying
15:37 szabgab_ do you get a black window when launching padre?
15:37 xsub sorry for not being consistent.
15:37 xsub yes!
15:38 szabgab_ do you have the recent version installed?
15:38 szabgab_ 0.64 or what was that
15:38 szabgab_ as I don't get any extra black windows when running padre.ex3
15:38 daxim doesn't windows have a built-in to detach processes?  iirc it's called  start
15:38 szabgab_ padre.exe
15:38 xsub (http://wdnet.wdc.com/Departments/H​R/Documents/MSHomeUseProgram.pdf)
15:38 xsub srry
15:39 xsub This is Padre 0.66 (the mouse does not copy to to buffer - I can not used to that )
15:40 xsub built today from CPAN, with Strawberry Perl 5.12.x
15:40 szabgab_ and are you running padre.exe ?
15:40 szabgab_ double clicking on it I mean ?
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15:43 xsub okay, sorry for being stupid (however you are not that affected as I am ;-)) I tried to run padre.bat only. Sorry for FUD.
15:52 xsub daxim: thanks, `start' is really something I was looking for except not for this use case. I just came back to Windows after  over 10 yrs of FLOSS interaction and feel a little bit lost (sometimes totally).
15:53 daxim I do try to forget it, but this time on v3.1-2000 cannot be shaken off
16:34 szabgab_ I just started to use Windows again!
16:34 szabgab_ after about 8 years mostly on Linux
16:46 Alias xsub: padre --desktop
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16:56 xsub thx guys, going home now, job time over. See you again as Padre is great and Perl is my lang of choice (if I have it) ;-) Have a nice hack.
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17:27 Hyppolit svn: r11821 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11821
17:27 Hyppolit Bumped FBP and FBP::Perl dependencies
17:27 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder/
17:35 Hyppolit svn: r11822 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/11822
17:35 Hyppolit set focuse when switching editor that used to stay on the tab if the current file was selected
17:35 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
17:37 Hyppolit #963: Filename disappears from status (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/963 ]
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18:09 rindolf Hi all.
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