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Hyppolit |
svn: r12115 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12115 |
| 02:50 |
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Hyppolit |
Padre Sync dialog now shows correctly (but doesn't seem to work yet). |
| 02:50 |
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Hyppolit |
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Hyppolit |
Tweaked a few actio names in light of their being moved to a different menu |
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Hyppolit |
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azawawi |
CSJewell: ping |
| 05:26 |
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azawawi |
good morning * :) |
| 05:27 |
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azawawi |
has anyone tried any of strawberry Perl's release candidates http://csjewell.dreamwidth.org/16163.html ? |
| 05:28 |
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CSJewell |
I haven't had any bad news. |
| 05:29 |
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azawawi |
after downloading http://strawberryperl.com/down[…]perl-5.12.1.0.msi , i get bad msi installer when i run it |
| 05:30 |
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azawawi |
what's more intriguing is that its size is about 20MB... while before it used to be 40MB |
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azawawi |
CSJewell: anything? |
| 05:37 |
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CSJewell |
Let me check. Just a sec. |
| 05:38 |
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CSJewell |
44,933,120 bytes. |
| 05:38 |
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CSJewell |
Bad download, it looks like. |
| 05:38 |
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azawawi |
i downloaded it from two places btw |
| 05:39 |
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azawawi |
wget reports 20M (feather.perl6.nl) |
| 05:40 |
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azawawi |
restart webserver? |
| 05:40 |
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azawawi |
the zip file reports 58MB |
| 05:44 |
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* azawawi |
downloads the zip file instead for now to try it with rakudo/blizkost |
| 05:48 |
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CSJewell |
Waitasec. You're right. |
| 05:48 |
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CSJewell |
The file size I gave was for the 64-bit version. |
| 05:49 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r12116 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12116 |
| 05:49 |
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Hyppolit |
[S:H:P6] Updated to STD.pm6 revision 31855 |
| 05:49 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Syntax-Highlight-Perl6/lib/ |
| 05:49 |
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CSJewell |
Bad upload on my part... should have checked the size. |
| 05:50 |
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azawawi |
CSJewell: 2 mins left on the zip file. Should this release fix the issue I have been having with blizkost in your opinion? |
| 05:51 |
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azawawi |
CSJewell: being 32-bit... |
| 05:51 |
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CSJewell |
Be worth a try... I don't know for sure. Haven't tried it. |
| 05:55 |
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* azawawi |
started building rakudo and blizkost... (~5-7min eta) |
| 06:06 |
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azawawi |
CSJewell: http://gist.github.com/501822 |
| 06:06 |
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azawawi |
CSJewell: does that sound right to you? |
| 06:07 |
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CSJewell |
waitasec. That would be the 64-bit gcc. |
| 06:07 |
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CSJewell |
But right for THAT. |
| 06:08 |
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azawawi |
right for strawberry-perl-5.12.1.0.zip ? |
| 06:08 |
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CSJewell |
NO. |
| 06:08 |
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azawawi |
\strawberry\c\i686-w64-mingw32 ... |
| 06:10 |
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CSJewell |
I'll check and see what's up... I can't believe it got uploaded that way... will be taking a look. |
| 06:10 |
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CSJewell |
(Extracting copy - 60 seconds) |
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azawawi |
blizkost fails with the same "not found" message box. That's from windows btw. |
| 06:15 |
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CSJewell |
No, that's the 32-bit version. My bad. 64-bit version is x86_64-w64-mingw32. |
| 06:15 |
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CSJewell |
So it |
| 06:15 |
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CSJewell |
it's the right gcc. |
| 06:16 |
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CSJewell |
What does the "not found" message box say? |
| 06:16 |
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CSJewell |
azawawi: is it not finding libgcc_s_sjlj-1.dll? Or is something else missing that I don't know about? |
| 06:18 |
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azawawi |
CSJewell: http://feather.perl6.nl/~azawa[…]awberry_error.png |
| 06:18 |
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CSJewell |
The w64 in the host triplet just means it was built by the mingw64 project. |
| 06:19 |
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CSJewell |
and THAT error needs to be taken to p5p... I'm fresh out of clues. |
| 06:19 |
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azawawi |
been there... |
| 06:19 |
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azawawi |
i need to simplify the makefile a bit... and see what it exports ... etc |
| 06:22 |
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CSJewell |
I will say this: Windows is one of the environments where, if it's not in the public API, it doesn't get exported for public access, unlike most of the Unixen. |
| 06:22 |
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azawawi |
both dlls are 32-bit... |
| 06:23 |
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azawawi |
oh well i will download a win32 sdk to debug it |
| 06:23 |
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azawawi |
Thanks for the help |
| 06:24 |
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CSJewell |
And that function is NOT in http://perldoc.perl.org/perlapi.html ... |
| 06:24 |
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azawawi |
it is in perlapi.h btw |
| 06:26 |
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CSJewell |
But that doesn't neccessarily mean it's part of the public API... http://cpansearch.perl.org/src[…]-5.12.1/embed.fnc does not list it, not even without an A flag. |
| 06:31 |
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CSJewell |
azawazi: from intrpvar.h (where that variable is defined) : /* The 'I' prefix is only needed for vars that need appropriate #defines |
| 06:31 |
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CSJewell |
* generated when built with or without MULTIPLICITY. It is also used |
| 06:31 |
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CSJewell |
* to generate the appropriate export list for win32. |
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* Alias__ |
hacks on a better config sync gui |
| 06:48 |
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azawawi |
CSJewell: pexports c:\strawberry\perl\bin\perl512.dll | find "Iori" |
| 06:48 |
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azawawi |
CSJewell: returns a result so it is there... but somehow not in the proper linkage format... |
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CSJewell |
I'm checking from the other end... |
| 06:51 |
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CSJewell |
It's in the win32\perldll.def created during the build, too. |
| 06:51 |
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azawawi |
CSJewell: going to #p5p |
| 06:52 |
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CSJewell |
I was just there, nobody's awake except Alias, and he has the same problems I have. |
| 06:52 |
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azawawi |
hehe |
| 06:53 |
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CSJewell |
This really needs to be on their mailing list... |
| 06:54 |
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CSJewell |
Do you mind if I take it there? |
| 06:54 |
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azawawi |
sure |
| 06:54 |
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CSJewell |
I'll cc kmx as well. (He's our C guru...) |
| 06:55 |
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azawawi |
please cc me also so i can follow up on it please :) |
| 06:55 |
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CSJewell |
Waitasec - you take it there. You know this better than I do... |
| 06:56 |
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azawawi |
i will once i 100% give up :) |
| 06:56 |
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CSJewell |
I've gone as far as I can. |
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azawawi |
Thanks for your help. I really appreciate it. |
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kaare |
Before, when a file changed outside of Padre, you could reload it. In 0.68, the only options are "Close selected" and "Close"... |
| 10:49 |
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kaare |
Not really a progress |
| 10:54 |
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szabgab |
garu: any chance seeing a Portugues announcement about Rakudo * ? |
| 10:55 |
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szabgab |
so wfar we know about these: http://www.perlfoundation.org/[…]rakudo_star_press |
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Sewi |
kaare: Seems I fixed something there into a bug, will look at it this weekend |
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waxhead |
Sewi, I'll raise a ticket about that when I get time.. it's something I noticed a while back... it's caught me out a few times.. :( |
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waxhead |
bed & |
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roge |
STDIN |
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roge |
Using $sign=<STDIN> freezes the IDE and forces me to end the program through Task Manager |
| 13:05 |
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roge |
Anybody heard of that or know a work-around (like aliasing the little console window to <STDIN> |
| 13:07 |
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szabgab |
roge: tools |
| 13:08 |
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szabgab |
tools/Preferences/run parameters/use external window for execution |
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szabgab |
stdin? |
| 13:08 |
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Hyppolit |
stdin is check Tools/Preferences/Run Parameters/Use external window for execution to allow <STDIN> to work |
| 13:08 |
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szabgab |
oh it was there already :) |
| 13:10 |
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roge |
I'm tring it right now.... |
| 13:12 |
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roge |
Of course, since I had to use task manager to end the non-responsive, stuck-in-a-loop program, Padre won't start now, so I have to uninstall and re-install it. Fun@! |
| 13:13 |
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szabgab |
that should not be the case |
| 13:13 |
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szabgab |
why would you need to reinstall it? |
| 13:14 |
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roge |
because it will no longer start up, so I have to unistall it - the Padre installation dialog gives me no other option. |
| 13:17 |
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szabgab |
what os? windows? |
| 13:17 |
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szabgab |
there is some process still running maybe? |
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roge |
OS win 7 |
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Alias__ |
\o |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r12117 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12117 |
| 13:41 |
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Hyppolit |
Dropping in my first attempt at rebuilding the Padre Sync dialog. |
| 13:41 |
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Hyppolit |
350 lines of code in an hour, suck it bitches :) |
| 13:41 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/fbp/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/FBP/ |
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Alias__ |
(Now I just have to make it actually work) :)_ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r12118 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12118 |
| 15:47 |
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Hyppolit |
Config sync dialog upgrade phase 2. |
| 15:47 |
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Hyppolit |
The FBP design has been polished and permissions applied to generate improved and compatible Perl. |
| 15:47 |
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Hyppolit |
Cloned the event handlers from Dialog::Sync to create Dialog::Sync2 as a sub-class of the 100% generated FBP::Sync. |
| 15:47 |
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Hyppolit |
The new dialog is theoretically complete, but has never been actually run :) |
| 15:47 |
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Hyppolit |
(All tests pass again) |
| 15:47 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/fbp/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/FBP/ |
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Alias__ |
If anyone would like to review the FBP design, I would appreciate it |
| 16:00 |
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szabgab |
Alias__: release tests are failing |
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garu |
szabgab: our mailing lists were swarmed by rakudo star links and references |
| 18:15 |
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garu |
but you're right, I don't think I've seen an actual pt-br review |
| 18:15 |
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rindolf |
garu: whose mailing lists? |
| 18:15 |
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garu |
I'll make it happen |
| 18:15 |
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garu |
rindolf: brazil's |
| 18:16 |
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rindolf |
garu: ah. |
| 18:16 |
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szabgab |
garu: and even you could also add a link to the archives of discussions on he mailing lists |
| 18:16 |
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szabgab |
I mean add to the wiki |
| 18:16 |
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garu |
sure, will do |
| 18:17 |
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szabgab |
thanks |
| 18:23 |
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garu |
hmmm... most of them are forwards to the official annoucement |
| 18:24 |
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garu |
let me see if I can spawn something up. there really should be pt literature on this, even if just a press release |
| 18:29 |
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rindolf |
szabgab: where is the wiki which contains all that stuff? |
| 18:29 |
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garu |
http://www.perlfoundation.org/[…]rakudo_star_press |
| 18:30 |
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garu |
rindolf: hey, nice post btw, the hacktivity log |
| 18:30 |
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rindolf |
garu: thanks. |
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teejay |
ha! downloading eclipse via yum means a total of 150mb |
| 18:40 |
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rindolf |
teejay: sounds reasonable. |
| 18:40 |
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rindolf |
teejay: for Eclipse, I mean. |
| 18:40 |
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teejay |
150mb of compessed rpms? |
| 18:41 |
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teejay |
does include java and java dev libs to be fair |
| 18:50 |
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rindolf |
Does Padre have a plugin for something like Vim/TextMate snippets? |
| 18:54 |
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teejay |
yup out of the box |
| 18:54 |
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teejay |
insert | snippets iirc |
| 18:55 |
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teejay |
definately has it built in somewhere |
| 18:57 |
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garu |
szabgab: what is the "gradual typing" feature? |
| 18:58 |
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garu |
(in a nutshell, just so I can come up with a proper translation) |
| 18:58 |
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rindolf |
teejay: anyway to do it using a keybinding? |
| 18:58 |
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garu |
rindolf: what is this snippets thing? sounds cool |
| 18:59 |
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rindolf |
garu: like I press sub<tab> and get sub [Enter name here]\n{\n...\n} |
| 18:59 |
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rindolf |
Or I have something for HTML that does <li><p><a href="..."</p></li> for me. |
| 18:59 |
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garu |
oh, sweet |
| 19:00 |
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jnthn_ |
garu: Gradual typing means that you can optionally write type annotations, and the compiler will be able to do more checks, you'll get some more runtime checks too, and potentially also better code generation (Rakudo currently doesn't give you better code gen, but just give it a few more months. :-)) |
| 19:00 |
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rindolf |
Hi jnthn_ |
| 19:00 |
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garu |
jnthn_++ # thanks! |
| 19:00 |
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jnthn_ |
o/ rindolf |
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rindolf |
jnthn_: what's up? |
| 19:01 |
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jnthn_ |
rindolf: Getting my slides together for YAPC :-) |
| 19:01 |
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rindolf |
jnthn_: YAPC::EU? |
| 19:02 |
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jnthn_ |
rindolf: Yes. |
| 19:02 |
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rindolf |
jnthn_: ah, cool. |
| 19:02 |
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garu |
jnthn_: so, roughly comparing, it's like saying a variable has tighter validation checks than others? |
| 19:03 |
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* szbalint |
does slides tomorrow |
| 19:03 |
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jnthn_ |
garu: Yes, but it also means that the compiler has more information about what should be in the variable too. |
| 19:03 |
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szbalint |
that's what airports are for after all |
| 19:03 |
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* garu |
is Perl 6 illiterate |
| 19:03 |
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jnthn_ |
I'll be at the airport at around 6am. I don't think the quality of slides I write at that time or morning will be so high. ;-) |
| 19:05 |
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szbalint |
it'd be funny :) |
| 19:05 |
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szabgab |
hey jnthn_ for a while I was not sure in which channel I am looking at |
| 19:06 |
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szbalint |
, |
| 19:06 |
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szabgab |
nice to see you here andswering perl 6 related questions :) |
| 19:06 |
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szbalint |
me neither :) |
| 19:06 |
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szabgab |
I think I'll need to justify the purchase of my netbook that is supposed to have lots of battery life |
| 19:07 |
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szabgab |
so writing slides on airplane! |
| 19:07 |
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garu |
jnthn_: so, would the equivalent of "dynamic creation of types" be a good equivalent? or you have something more accurate? |
| 19:07 |
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jnthn_ |
szabgab: I'm here because I'm kinda interested in Padre/Perl 6-y stuff. :-) |
| 19:07 |
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jnthn_ |
szabgab: Alas I've been a bit tied for time of late. :-) |
| 19:07 |
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jnthn_ |
szabgab: Will you be at YAPC::EU? |
| 19:08 |
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jnthn_ |
garu: It's closer to optional static typing. |
| 19:08 |
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szabgab |
jnthn_: teaching perl 6 in Pisa |
| 19:08 |
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teejay |
ok... why does Eclipes require Tomcat ? |
| 19:08 |
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jnthn_ |
Oh, yes, of course :-) |
| 19:08 |
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szabgab |
but so far I have only 2 studenst |
| 19:08 |
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szabgab |
and one of them is pmichaud :) |
| 19:08 |
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jnthn_ |
Aww, that's not so many. |
| 19:09 |
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szabgab |
yeah, I submitted it late, after they already announced |
| 19:09 |
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szabgab |
and people just don't think they need to promote stuff :) |
| 19:09 |
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jnthn_ |
;-) |
| 19:10 |
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garu |
teejay: I have this theory that everything in java requires tomcat one way or the other |
| 19:10 |
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szabgab |
but whatever, it gives me a reason to go over my material and try to improve it a bit |
| 19:10 |
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garu |
even if they don't use it, they just like it hanging around |
| 19:10 |
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szabgab |
http://www.thesixtyone.com/ this is really cool |
| 19:10 |
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garu |
jnthn_: optional static typing it is |
| 19:12 |
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garu |
jnthn_: I'm doing s/typing/type definition/, is this ok? I hate writing about what I don't actually know :( |
| 19:12 |
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garu |
(yet ;) |
| 19:12 |
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teejay |
oooooh guys, has anybody used eclipse tutorials ? |
| 19:12 |
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teejay |
that's rather nice |
| 19:12 |
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jnthn_ |
garu: I think "static typing" is the right term |
| 19:13 |
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garu |
jnthn_: I'm sure it is. What I'm looking for is a proper translation for 'typing' ;) |
| 19:14 |
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jnthn_ |
Oh. |
| 19:14 |
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jnthn_ |
garu: Which language, ooc? |
| 19:15 |
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* garu |
is translating the rakudo star release annoucement to pt-br |
| 19:15 |
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jnthn_ |
Ah, OK, I don't know any of that. :-) |
| 19:15 |
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garu |
I'd ask ruoso, but he's not around atm |
| 19:15 |
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jnthn_ |
HOw is "dynamically typed language" and things like that translated? |
| 19:17 |
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garu |
that's what I'm looking forward to knowing :) |
| 19:17 |
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jnthn_ |
Ah, OK. :-) |
| 19:17 |
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garu |
some things are left untranslated |
| 19:17 |
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garu |
others do have an equivalent |
| 19:18 |
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garu |
jnthn_: this is why I'm trying to rephrase that :) |
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szbalint |
<@szabgab> and one of them is pmichaud :) |
| 19:19 |
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szbalint |
have fun! :) |
| 19:21 |
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* teejay |
wants to add eclipse style tutorials to padre now |
| 19:21 |
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teejay |
bah |
| 19:22 |
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teejay |
ETOOMANYIDEASTOOLITTLETIME |
| 19:22 |
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Sewi |
teejay: Yes, this is a common error code :-( |
| 19:23 |
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teejay |
hmm.. might file a feature request bug |
| 19:23 |
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rindolf |
ENOTENOUGHSEPARATORS |
| 19:23 |
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Sewi |
rindolf: Blame it to libc :) |
| 19:23 |
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rindolf |
Sewi: yes, I know. |
| 19:24 |
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Sewi |
What about a "time freeze" plugin. Activate it and time stops :-) |
| 19:29 |
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szbalint |
I couldn't get anything done that way :S |
| 19:30 |
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Sewi |
Be careful while writing that plugin: You must still be able to work :) |
| 19:30 |
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teejay |
added ticket |
| 19:30 |
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Hyppolit |
#978: Provide a way to create eclipse style tutorials (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/978 ] |
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user_201 |
Hi |
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user_201 |
help me!! |
| 20:03 |
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teejay |
Hi |
| 20:04 |
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user_201 |
open(INPUT, "C:\\input.txt") |
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user_201 |
or die "Could not open file for reading $!\n"; |
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user_201 |
file is present in C folder, but still dying |
| 20:04 |
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teejay |
hmm.. windows is wierd, haven't used it in years |
| 20:06 |
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user_201 |
@Alias...Any Idea? |
| 20:06 |
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teejay |
why 2 \s? |
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Sewi |
user_201: Hi |
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Sewi |
user_201: Did you try C:/input.txt? |
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user_201 |
what is the character b/w C and input? |
| 20:07 |
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teejay |
a slash |
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user_201 |
no colon? |
| 20:07 |
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teejay |
both colon and slash |
| 20:08 |
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teejay |
rather than colon backslash backslash |
| 20:08 |
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user_201 |
open(INPUT, "C\\input.txt") |
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user_201 |
no luck |
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kaare |
Will I use P:P:Perl6 for Perl6 files, even though it's from 0.64? |
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teejay |
user_201, use ' instead of " |
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kaare |
(even though the plugin is from 0.64) |
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Sewi |
user_201: C : / input (without spaces) |
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teejay |
try open (INPUT,'C:/input.txt'); |
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teejay |
hmm |
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teejay |
is the / character getting eaten by your web irc client? |
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* teejay |
off to bed |
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Sewi |
user_201: Do you use a variable to store the filename? |
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