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is going to make a stab at finally getting back to incremental scanning for the directory tree |
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szabgab |
gm |
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szabgab |
someone pls tell chorny, he got co-maint on the plugins |
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szabgab |
El_Che: thanks for the tip |
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waxhead |
hey szabgab |
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waxhead |
yeah, for the bits I've been in and out, chorny has been very busy |
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* waxhead |
had family visit over the weekend |
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waxhead |
changes? |
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szabgab |
I just got home from YAPC::EU yestreday |
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waxhead |
how do you tell Hyppolit something to remember? |
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waxhead |
szabgab, how was it? |
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waxhead |
I'd love to go to a big perl conference some day |
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szabgab |
Hyppolit: sg is explanation |
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Hyppolit |
sg was unknown |
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Hyppolit |
sg is now explanation |
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szabgab |
you have OSDC over there |
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waxhead |
Hyppolit: Changes is http://svn.perlide.org/padre/trunk/Padre/Changes |
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Hyppolit |
Changes was unknown |
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Hyppolit |
Changes is now http://svn.perlide.org/padre/trunk/Padre/Changes |
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szabgab |
I'd love to go yo OSDC::AU one day :) |
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waxhead |
changes |
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waxhead |
Changes |
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waxhead |
changes? |
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waxhead |
Changes? |
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Hyppolit |
Changes is http://svn.perlide.org/padre/trunk/Padre/Changes |
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waxhead |
cool... |
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waxhead |
yeah, but it's not a perl only thing... |
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waxhead |
Hyppolit: forget sg |
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waxhead |
so how do you get Hyppolit to forget something? |
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waxhead |
Hyppolit: help |
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waxhead |
:) |
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szabgab |
Hyppolit: sg is |
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szabgab |
Hyppolit: sg is '' |
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Hyppolit |
sg was explanation |
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Hyppolit |
sg is now '' |
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waxhead |
hmm... that implies that sg is still being held though |
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waxhead |
sg? |
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Hyppolit |
sg is '' |
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szabgab |
I think you cannot delete the entry |
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szabgab |
I'll have to look into that |
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waxhead |
Hyppolit: sg is not longer required |
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Hyppolit |
sg was '' |
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Hyppolit |
sg is now not longer required |
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szabgab |
:) |
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waxhead |
Hyppolit: forget sg |
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waxhead |
nope.. :) |
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szabgab |
Hyppolit: sg is also a sandbox |
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Hyppolit |
sg is now not longer required and also a sandbox |
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waxhead |
sandbox? |
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waxhead |
hmm.. there's a grammatical error there... |
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waxhead |
sg? |
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Hyppolit |
sg is not longer required and also a sandbox |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r12172 | chorny++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12172 |
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Hyppolit |
version 0.06 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre-Plugin-PAR/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-PAR/lib/Padre/Plugin/ |
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Sewi |
Hi all |
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Sewi |
What would happen if Padre would have two tabs with the same filename? |
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waxhead |
hey Sewi |
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Sewi |
Hi wax. |
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Sewi |
I'm thinking about a clone-tab function which copies a tab including the filename. |
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Sewi |
Editing and saving one file will force the other one into a refreshed-on-disk situation, but do I miss any other problems? |
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waxhead |
Both files are edited and in an unsaved situation? |
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waxhead |
you would have to allow some sort of 'merge' function between the two |
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waxhead |
or three or four.. :) |
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Sewi |
Maybe. |
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Alias |
I think it would be a really good idea to aggressively prevent duplicated tabs |
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Alias |
For the time being at least |
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Alias |
All our document model and document management code is still VERY 1st generation |
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Sewi |
I don't want to edit both of them but use the second one as a template and save-as while keeping the file path. |
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Alias |
So avoiding complicated features is a good idea |
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Alias |
huh? |
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Sewi |
Alias: You may be right. |
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Alias |
Can you restate the feature? |
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Alias |
Certainly creating a new file from a current one is quite simple |
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Alias |
In fact, that's one of the things we need for Ultraedit file change logic |
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Sewi |
(At least until we're able to use one common "document" within multiple editors) |
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Alias |
"This file has been deleted. Close it or keep it open?" |
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Alias |
If you say to keep open a deleted file, it turns the editor panel into a "new" file |
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Alias |
It's an unsaved file, but it remembers the "Foo.pm" part of the file name, and uses it as a title |
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Sewi |
We got parts of this. |
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Alias |
Yup |
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Alias |
But having multiple "open" files for the same file should be a definite no no |
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Alias |
Until document model 2.0, whenever the hell THAT happens |
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Sewi |
My usual combination for cloning: Ctrl-A, Ctrl-C, Ctrl-N, Ctrl-V |
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Alias |
I have more pressing issues for another half a year |
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Sewi |
Everything is fine with it as long as Ctrl-Alt-S is working. |
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Alias |
Well, there's SOME issues |
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Alias |
Even new files have a relationship with a project |
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Alias |
The question would be complicated by whether or not just the file was removed, or the whole project is gone |
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Sewi |
Anybody voting against a copy-current-tab-into-a-unsafed-fresh-one-related-to-the-current-tabs-project - function? |
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waxhead |
shall we roll out a release this week? |
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Alias |
waxhead: We'll need to disable access to preferences sync, but otherwise I'm happy I think |
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Alias |
I managed to make Padre faster again |
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Sewi |
We should face those function list and directory browser latencies |
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Alias |
I'm getting there |
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Alias |
See all that stuff about mid-task messages in the changes file? |
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Alias |
Needed that working first |
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Sewi |
ok |
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Alias |
Function List latency? |
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Alias |
THAT shouldn't be slow |
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Alias |
Outline might be, but not function alist |
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Sewi |
It's not really slow, but s |
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Sewi |
it stops updating sometimes. |
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Alias |
hrm |
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Sewi |
It's unchanged even if you change tabs and after some time it starts changing again if you switch tabs |
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Alias |
weird |
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Alias |
I haven't seen that |
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Sewi |
Oh, you keep searching for that function which must be in that file until you know about that bug :-) |
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waxhead |
yeah, the outline view doesn't update frequently enough either |
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waxhead |
Alias, I'll forewarn you about a release then so you can disable things as needed... or we can do it tonight/tomorrow... |
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Alias |
I'm out tonight |
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Alias |
But you can try it yourself |
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Alias |
In the tools ->refresh, just add a ->{whatever}->Enable(0); |
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waxhead |
Alias, that's fine.. I'll leave it until later in the week... |
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waxhead |
OK.. I'll take a look and see how it goes |
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Alias |
Failing that, remove it entirely |
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Alias |
I kinda prefer having it greyed out to increase excitement and make sure we get translations |
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Alias |
But removing it entirely will do in a pinch |
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Alias |
And removing it entirely from the menu should be totally trivial |
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waxhead |
that's fine... I'll see how I go tonight.. might not get done... so we can go with the greyed out look and roll out later in the week |
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Alias |
I can't push as hard as I'd like anyway atm, until the election is over |
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waxhead |
yeah, you said that before.. still doing plenty though I see |
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Alias |
Bits and pices |
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Alias |
pieces |
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Alias |
Just did a couple of tweaks to the task manager |
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nickl |
hello, I'm new to Padre and wanted to report a possible bug, do I do that here? |
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nickl |
it's a bug with the padre+strawberry windows installer |
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Sewi |
What happend? |
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nickl |
I already had strawberry installed fro use with Eclipse/EPIC, then I installed Padre, used it for a bit, uninstalled it, and it clobbered my original strawberry install |
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nickl |
not a big deal, but not very friendly |
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Sewi |
Alias? |
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waxhead |
nickl, so you had two strawberry perls installed? |
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waxhead |
or did you install strawberry perl and then installed strawberry perl + padre? |
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waxhead |
effectively being a case of installing strawberry perl on top of itself? |
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nickl |
I'm not sure... I guess Padre probably installed strawberry over the top of the existing installation |
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nickl |
then removed it |
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waxhead |
which if oyu had strawberry perl already installed, the simplest thing to have done was use cpan to install Padre |
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nickl |
ok, but I just went to the Padre site, clicked download, and great there's an MSI! |
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waxhead |
strawberry+padre is just that, strawberry perl AND Padre in the one install file, which if you had strawberry perl installed already, you shouldn't have done |
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waxhead |
right... |
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nickl |
yep I know that _now_ ;) |
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waxhead |
download? |
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Hyppolit |
download is http://padre.perlide.org/download.html |
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waxhead |
nickl, yeah.. painful way to learn though... :( |
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waxhead |
if you have strawberry perl installed already, use the cpan client to install Padre for you... |
| 08:54 |
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waxhead |
mind you, there's room for more pain there... |
| 08:55 |
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waxhead |
Hmm.. the download page does say it contains strawberry perl and padre... |
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nickl |
yeah like I say, not a big deal, but for people who are a bit dim like me it might be nice to either have the installer do a check, or offer option to install strawb to a new location, or just put a note on the download page |
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waxhead |
it doesn't say NOT to use it if you have strawberry perl already... |
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waxhead |
nickl, we can do something about the download page... |
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nickl |
great |
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nickl |
tho probably most are more sensible than me anyay :) |
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waxhead |
nickl, don't beat yourself up... I'd say most people who get caught out by this don't tell us.. |
| 09:10 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r12173 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12173 |
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Hyppolit |
Added a warning to the stand alone download if you already have Strawberry perl installed. |
| 09:10 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/tt/pages/ |
| 09:11 |
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waxhead |
bugger... |
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waxhead |
we really need a cpan client how to link... |
| 09:12 |
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waxhead |
the problem is that different things fail for different reasons... |
| 09:12 |
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waxhead |
but in general the reason they fail are the same.. |
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nickl |
thanks, waxhead... great to come here with an issue, and have it fixed right away! |
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waxhead |
nickl, no prob.. I don't think it stands out enough, but it's a start.. |
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NickDA |
Hi I am trying to settup my Padre to use use activePerl for my work and a custom set of libraries |
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Sewi |
hi |
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NickDA |
I have the interpreter setup to point to the other Perl and the arguments settup as -IC:\mylibraries |
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NickDA |
but it doesn't seem to see the custom libraries |
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NickDA |
it keep looking at strawberry perl to do its syntax checking |
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NickDA |
Is there anything else I should be checking? |
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Sewi |
Syntax checking currently can't use "other" libraries. |
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Sewi |
This is a known drawback |
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NickDA |
ok thanks |
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NickDA |
do they pla on adding it maybe in a future relaease |
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kthakore |
Getty: ping! |
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kthakore |
Getty: may I have access to 64bit windoes? |
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Getty |
oh yes right |
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Getty |
let me check around |
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kthakore |
Getty: yay! |
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Getty |
no false hope |
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Getty |
i just ask people who does that all day as job if they got something spare |
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kthakore |
Getty: thank you soooooo much for tryin |
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Getty |
you are doing perl stuff, i have no choice |
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Getty |
;) |
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kthakore |
haha |
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arturop |
hello |
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arturop |
I've been trying to install Padre on Strawberry Perl on WinXP |
| 18:06 |
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arturop |
but one of the test fails and I've run out of googling, can find nothing |
| 18:07 |
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arturop |
within the make test section the test I'm talking about is t/15-locale.t |
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arturop |
I get |
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arturop |
4/7 Missing or non-scalar value for setting 'locale' at C:\strawberry\cpan\build\Padre-0.68-GWHBH1\blib\lib/Padre/Wx/Main.pm line 1589 |
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arturop |
and |
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arturop |
t/15-locale.t .............. Dubious, test returned 255 (wstat 65280, 0xff00) |
| 18:09 |
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arturop |
I was wondering if someone could give me a hand |
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chorny |
arturop: google will not help you with Padre - it is frequently released and errors change |
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arturop |
right |
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arturop |
thx for that chorny |
| 18:24 |
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arturop |
in any case I was trying to find out if the locale test error was more general than Padre |
| 18:25 |
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chorny |
Which language does your XP use? |
| 18:25 |
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arturop |
Spanish |
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chorny |
es-es? |
| 18:28 |
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arturop |
I believe so but how can I find it out for sure? |
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chorny |
Wx::Locale::GetSystemLanguage(); |
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arturop |
right hang on pls |
| 18:34 |
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arturop |
are you sure it's like that? Wx::Locale? |
| 18:34 |
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arturop |
my system can't find the function |
| 18:37 |
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arturop |
apologies if I'm making too 'simple' questions |
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shadowpaste |
"chorny" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "for arturop" (11 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/47785 |
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arturop |
got it 187 |
| 18:38 |
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arturop |
but I'll run this now |
| 18:40 |
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arturop |
it says it can't locate Padre/Constant.pm |
| 18:41 |
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arturop |
http://mibpaste.com/tq6O9S |
| 18:43 |
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chorny |
can you check http://wxwindowsjp.sourceforge[…]38.htm#wxlanguage and see if you have more exact language specification? |
| 18:44 |
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arturop |
sure |
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arturop |
well GetSystemLanguage returns 187 |
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arturop |
but don't know what that corresponds to on the list of constants |
| 18:46 |
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arturop |
GetSystemLanguageName returns a blank string |
| 18:47 |
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arturop |
it "should" be wxLANGUAGE_SPANISH |
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chorny |
say 'ru-ru=',Wx::wxLANGUAGE_RUSSIAN; |
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chorny |
(bad paste) |
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chorny |
it's wxLANGUAGE_SPANISH_MODERN |
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arturop |
good that would make sense |
| 18:50 |
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arturop |
does that help? |
| 18:50 |
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Casan |
on a side note.. my vista os system language is English, yet I've set my location to French. I live in France, but prefer system language to be English. When I do a Wx::Locale::GetSystemLanguage() it returns 78 for French, and not 57 for ENGLISH_UK. Surprised me when I started up Padre. |
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chorny |
arturop: I can fix this as a quick hack, but don't knowif this would be correct |
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arturop |
I'm happy to follow your advice |
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arturop |
is there a trade-off to be made? |
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chorny |
arturop: try installing Padre with force and see if it will work |
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arturop |
erm how do I force install |
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arturop |
dmake force? |
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chorny |
if you are not using CPAN client, just do dmake install |
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chorny |
in CPAN client, "force install Padre" |
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arturop |
ok thx |
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arturop |
I'll let you know in a minut |
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arturop |
*minute |
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arturop |
right the installation has finished apparently flawlessly |
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arturop |
and the software comes up apparently well |
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arturop |
so I should say thx for your help |
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arturop |
and I'll be having a play with it |
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chorny |
if you installed Padre manually, can you do a test for me? |
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arturop |
sure |
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chorny |
perl -Mblib t/15-locale.t |
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arturop |
http://mibpaste.com/N4qD6v |
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chorny |
thanks |
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arturop |
no thx to you |
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kthakore |
Getty: ??? no workie? |
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kthakore |
chorny: hi |
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chorny |
hi |
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kthakore |
chorny: who do I ask for plugin writing stuff? |
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Sewi |
Casan: There is an ongoing discussion on this (auto language selection) |
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Sewi |
We'll add a dialog asking for what you want on first startup, I think. |
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kthakore |
guess not |
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kthakore |
hi Sewi |
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Sewi |
Hi kthakore |
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Sewi |
Ask the channel :) |
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kthakore |
Sewi: how can I get access to the Wx to run SDL in there? Liek this http://code.technoplaza.net/wx-sdl/part1/ |
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kthakore |
chorny: ^^ |
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kthakore |
from perl? |
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kthakore |
Sewi: can the padre plugin load XS? |
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chorny |
kthakore: do you want to write a plugin? |
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Sewi |
I'm pretty sure it can |
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Getty |
kthakore: tomorrow i get feedback |
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kthakore |
Getty: yay |
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Getty |
you cant install it yourself cause of not having 64bit? |
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kthakore |
chorny: yes I do wanna make plugin for SDL in Padre. So you can .... |
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Getty |
cause you can get free windows from MS, that is never the problem |
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kthakore |
Getty: yeah -.- |
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Getty |
ok |
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* chorny |
never wrote a Padre plugin from the beginning |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r12174 | chorny++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12174 |
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Hyppolit |
use Test::Exception for a test to get more clear fail reason |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/t/ |
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