Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2010-08-19

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00:23 Alias__ chorny: It was moved to Padre::Wx::Action
00:24 Alias__ Because we had to break the plugins anyway, I decided to do some other minor cleanups at the same time that would break them
00:24 Alias__ Action contains elements of Wx, so it should really be under Padre::Wx
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00:50 submersible when did all this Wx:::Role stuff land ?
00:51 submersible I think Wx::Role::View needs view_icon too
00:51 Alias__ It trickled in over the last 3 or 4 months
00:52 submersible added Padre::Plugin::Swarm::Universe this morning !
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01:46 Alias_ What's it do?
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03:40 Hyppolit svn: r12290 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12290
03:40 Hyppolit Tear out the old search filter code
03:40 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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06:15 Hyppolit svn: r12291 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12291
06:15 Hyppolit skip badcode test for test file
06:15 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/xt/
06:20 Hyppolit svn: r12292 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12292
06:20 Hyppolit add view_icon to Wx::Role::View
06:20 Hyppolit add support for bitmap icons using this role to Left Bottom and Right
06:20 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Role/
06:22 Hyppolit svn: r12293 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12293
06:22 Hyppolit [Swarm] change everything again
06:22 Hyppolit improved JSON incremental parser
06:22 Hyppolit split global and local into 'universes' and keep both running
06:22 Hyppolit rolled version in all the madness
06:22 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/Swarm/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padr​e/Plugin/Swarm/Transport/Global/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Pad​re/Plugin/Swarm/Transport/Local/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Pl​ugin/Swarm/Transport/Local/Multicast/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/l​ib/Padre/Plugin/Swarm/Wx/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Pa​dre/Plugin/Swarm/Wx/Resources/ trunk/Pad
06:28 Sewi Is trunk workable again?
06:36 submersible Sewi: works for me - mostly
06:37 Sewi ok, thanks
06:39 Hyppolit svn: r12294 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12294
06:39 Hyppolit fix disable bug in chat
06:39 Hyppolit kludge hangup in multicast transport
06:39 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Pad​re/Plugin/Swarm/Transport/Local/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/l​ib/Padre/Plugin/Swarm/Wx/
06:43 Hyppolit svn: r12295 | kaare++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12295
06:43 Hyppolit Require File::Temp 0.20
06:43 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
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07:14 Hyppolit svn: r12296 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12296
07:14 Hyppolit Swarm , add more trace debug , wrap swarm message notification in an update lock . avoids flickering like mad
07:14 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/Swarm/
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07:37 Hyppolit svn: r12297 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12297
07:37 Hyppolit [S:H:P6] Re-using STD CPAN package instead of including them here.
07:37 Hyppolit trunk/Syntax-Highlight-Perl6/ trunk/Syntax-Highlight-Perl6/lib/
07:38 Hyppolit svn: r12298 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12298
07:38 Hyppolit [S:H:P6] Removed unneeded test and build Perl scripts
07:38 Hyppolit trunk/Syntax-Highlight-Perl6/
07:40 Hyppolit svn: r12299 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12299
07:40 Hyppolit [S:H:P6] Updated Changes and MANIFEST.SKIP
07:40 Hyppolit trunk/Syntax-Highlight-Perl6/
08:10 * jq is a father since yesterday
08:11 El_Che jq: congratulations
08:11 El_Che sleep devravation can be a joy :)
08:11 El_Che dep
08:11 jq thanks
08:12 El_Che boy or girl?
08:12 Steffen Congratulations! I hope everyone is healthy!
08:12 El_Che tc
08:12 jq boy
08:12 jq and everyone is fine
08:12 jq (even if the dad is a bit sleepy now :-) )
08:12 El_Che stressy time before birth, isn't it?
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08:13 jq not that much... he is 20 days ahead, and it was quite fast (1h30)
08:13 jq ==> i didn't have the time to realize :-)
08:13 El_Che wow
08:13 El_Che that's very fast
08:15 El_Che jq: 1st?
08:16 jq yes
08:16 El_Che you're not calling him Mandriva, I hope :)
08:17 jq definitely not. the boy's name is "juste"
08:18 El_Che nomen est omen?
08:18 jq ?
08:19 El_Che latin for "the name is a sign (indication)"
08:19 jq oh.
08:20 jq well, i hope it's a sign, as "juste" means "fair" in french
08:20 El_Che I know, beautiful name
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08:56 El_Che test 85 is failing
09:01 kaare jq: Congratulations!
09:01 kaare $now starts a life of serving && worrying
09:02 Alias_ oh noes
09:02 Alias_ We're losing jq
09:02 Alias_ Already lost submersible :(
09:02 Steffen To a child?
09:02 Alias_ Yup
09:03 Alias_ Although now it's getting past it's first few months, we might see him trickle back a bit to get Swarm working
09:03 * Alias_ heads home
09:04 szbalint :)
09:04 jq it's not as if i was the current alpha for padre :-)
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09:18 Alias__ jq: No, but you're a former and potential alpha :)
09:19 jq :-)
09:23 El_Che wouldn't I know how Brasilian women are, I would say you're the alpha at home :)
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15:51 szabgab jq: congratulations
15:53 szabgab I'll have to check that t/85 as it passes on my computer
15:54 szabgab ok, I know what's the problem :)
15:54 szabgab you are using svn and I use git :)
15:56 szabgab I guess I'll need to take that testing a bit more seriously
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16:13 Corion Hi all! Let me just vent a bit about Padre:
16:14 * Sewi listening
16:14 Corion Why does the "Some files changed on disk" dialog not remember that I pressed escape? It's impossible to do anything in Padre until I reload all files and discard the differences?
16:14 Corion I can't even get into the menu and search for the things I want to do.
16:14 Corion Because every second, the dialog pops up again.
16:14 Sewi Oh, it does - in a recent svn trunk version :)
16:15 Corion And now, it's called "Which files do you want to close" instead of "which files do you want to reload"
16:15 Sewi You could change the time between checks in the preferences
16:15 Corion It should let me choose per file whether to reload / overwrite
16:15 Sewi Sorry for that - mixed up things while fixing something :-(
16:15 Corion Sewi: The dialog should remember that I want to ignore this for the current files.
16:15 Corion Sewi: Don't take it personal - I just needed to vent :)
16:16 Corion I think I have a ticket open for this already, where I also propose to allow choices per-file and in general.
16:16 Corion "Always-reload" might also be convenient for log files.
16:16 Corion Thanks for listening - my rage has subsided :)
16:18 Sewi Do you use svn trunk or the released version?
16:18 Corion I'm on 0.68 currently
16:19 Corion I think 0.69 had a bug on Win32, so I haven't upgraded yet
16:19 Corion Oh. No - 0.68 is the unstable one. I'll upgrade first before raging some more :)
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16:19 Sewi I'm sorry, but seems you will have to wait for 0.70
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16:20 Corion Whoops
16:20 Sewi I'm sorry, but seems you will have to wait for 0.70
16:20 Corion No worries :)
16:21 Corion I'll upgrade to 0.69 first, to see how much it breaks :)
16:21 Sewi Setting the check timeout to something bigger than 1 should help a bit
16:22 Corion Yeah. But then I won't get notifications about the changes. On Windows, Padre could use Win32::FileNotify to get notified about changes, instead of polling :)
16:22 Corion Also, in the long run, Padre should also check whether a file really is different, or just the timestamp changed when reloading
16:22 Corion Oh. Win32::FileNotify wouldn't work with remote file systems ;)
16:23 Sewi Oh, you get the notification - it just takes a few seconds longer
16:24 Sewi I'm using 30 seconds - because I work on remote fs sometimes...
16:25 Corion Yeah - then checking every second is a bit bad
16:25 Sewi :-)
16:28 Corion Oh. And changing the blink rate needs a Padre restart
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16:33 Alias__ Expect search to still be broken
16:33 Alias__ But the event streams when you use it are awesome
16:33 Alias__ Turn on tracing, then type a letter into the directory tree search box :)
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17:07 dapatrick Hello.
17:07 dapatrick t/85-commandline.t has been failing for me for the past few svn updates I've done (once a day for the past few days).
17:07 dapatrick Is that a known test failure?
17:08 dapatrick (Also, I hadn't used Padre in a few months and came back to it last Thursday -- it was awesome before, and is even more awesome now. Seems faster.)
17:08 * rindolf needs to announce the new Padre on http://freshmeat.net/
17:08 rindolf But I'm busy at work.
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18:52 szabgabx the outline is funnily broken
18:52 szabgabx it keeps adding the same entries several times
18:53 szabgabx guessing from that it does not clean up the list before updating
18:54 rindolf Hi all.
18:55 szabgabx what's up rindolf? the sky?
18:56 rindolf szabgabx: among other things.
18:56 rindolf I'm trying to build kdegames-trunk.
18:56 rindolf And it needs a newer kdelibs.
18:58 Hyppolit svn: r12300 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12300
18:58 Hyppolit create own temp dir with content for the command line test
18:58 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/t/
18:58 szabgabx nice number
18:58 szabgabx who will get 12345 ?
18:59 szabgabx can someone pls pull from svn adn run the tests?
19:00 rindolf szabgabx: yes, wait a sec.
19:02 rindolf szabgabx: http://padre.perlide.org/trac/browser/t​runk/Padre/t/85-commandline.t?rev=12300 - there should be a URL to the actual svn directory ehre.
19:02 rindolf I implemented this feature in SVN-RaWeb-Light, but not enough people copied it.
19:03 szabgabx rindolf: where should be the link?
19:03 szabgabx the URL ?
19:05 rindolf szabgabx: don't know - at the top or at the bottom or something.
19:05 rindolf szabgabx: maybe I'll write a patch for it.
19:05 szabgabx for trac?
19:05 szabgabx a patch for trac?
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19:11 rindolf szabgabx: yes, a patch for trac for implementing this feature.
19:14 rindolf szabgabx: OK, I need the new Module-Install.
19:22 El_Che szabgabx: running
19:23 El_Che PASS
19:23 szabgabx ty
19:23 szabgabx OS?
19:24 El_Che Ubuntu 10.04, 64-bit
19:26 szabgabx thanks
19:27 szabgabx what I was really surprised with is that it worked on my Windows machine
19:34 rindolf szabgabx: Result: PASS # Finally.
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19:35 szabgabx thanks
19:35 szabgabx my netbook  is so slow, it is not funny
19:35 szabgabx even with perl 5 :)
19:36 szabgabx now I am tying to install Perl::Critic and it seem to be stuck after listing the missing prereqs
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20:00 szabgabx does anyone know about a list of Perl consultants/contractors?
20:01 szabgabx I might have some extra work coming in that I cannot handle alone but except of a few I don't even know who might be able to take some of this temporary extra workload?
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20:13 chorny kaare: hi
20:13 chorny kaare: Can you release new version of Padre::Plugin::Git? I made it compatible with latest Padre
20:16 szabgabx I can give you co-maint
20:16 szabgabx or maybe I already gave?
20:17 szabgabx chorny: could you release it yourself?
20:18 chorny sure
20:19 szabgabx thanks
20:19 chorny szabgabx: I have no comaint for it
20:20 chorny As I see on PAUSE, only KAARE has rights for it
20:21 szabgabx yeah I now see that I don't have permission either
20:21 szabgabx so ask kaare ^^^^^^
20:22 szabgabx oh you asked him already :)
20:22 szabgabx I turned off the aircondition about an hour ago and now it is already more than 30 C here .... :-(
20:23 szabgabx at 23:00
20:35 chorny Should we create PAUSE group (mailing list) for Padre plugins?
20:45 Sewi chorny: We have the Padre dev list, why not use this one?
20:46 chorny "mailing list" has special meaning for PAUSE
20:53 szabgabx chorny: we have two CPAN admins here  Steffen and alias_   thought I am not sure how is that related to the list :)
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23:24 Getty kthakore: good news
23:25 Getty chorny: can you explain that more about PAUSE mailinglist and stuff?
23:27 chorny AFAIK, it is possible to group rights for some modules, so developers could be added easily. It is called "mailing list".
23:27 Getty sounds interesting, could help much
23:40 kthakore Getty: what?
23:40 kthakore Getty: WHHHHAT?
23:42 Getty nothing
23:42 Getty :-D
23:44 Getty joke ;) i contacted the technical leader of the company where i have good connection to, and said that he could support it, so giving you the stuff needed to test
23:44 Getty its still a hard theme, i try to make it a solid stuff for you
23:44 Getty so not only for this case
23:44 Getty i guess that is much more important
23:47 kthakore ok
23:48 Getty "ok"
23:48 Getty yeah be happy that i put in all my contact-trust for you
23:48 kthakore thank you
23:48 kthakore yay!
23:48 kthakore :D
23:49 Getty see! better
23:53 Getty i hope i can bring it so on that we can offer some VIP padre developer also that service
23:53 Getty so that they can test the windows problem live on a windows machie without having one (or illegally downloading one)
23:59 kthakore Getty: NICE!
23:59 kthakore Getty++
23:59 kthakore I gtg eat but I will be back
23:59 kthakore just ping me
23:59 Getty yeah yeah
23:59 Getty i'm on it
23:59 Getty you just get the fruits later :-P

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