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szabgab, ping? |
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Alias |
Can anyone tell me what svn path they are using? |
| 03:23 |
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Alias |
Apparently you can get MKACTIVITY errors when your case sensitivity is wrong |
| 03:40 |
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Alias |
I think I've gotten the directory tree working again |
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Alias |
But I can't freaking commit |
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* Alias |
is really annoyed at the svn repo |
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Alias |
I can't bloody commit |
| 06:48 |
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Alias |
I don't understand why some of my machines work, but others don't |
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Sewi |
What happens? |
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Alias |
I get 403 errors on MKACTIVITY |
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Alias |
The internet says it's maybe because of case sensitivity errors on the server |
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Sewi |
Do you have access to the server to look at the errorlog? |
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Alias |
or something |
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Alias |
No |
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Alias |
Only szabgab so far as I know |
| 06:50 |
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Sewi |
Maybe a case problem with your username or password? |
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Alias |
I don't see how |
| 07:00 |
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Alias |
Sewi: What repository URL are you using |
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Alias |
And 2. Can you do a fresh checkout on Windows and commit ok? |
| 07:02 |
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Sewi |
svn? |
| 07:02 |
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Hyppolit |
svn is http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]ownloadRepository and also http://svn.perlide.org/padre/trunk/ and also http://padre.perlide.org/trac/browser |
| 07:02 |
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Sewi |
This one (2nd) |
| 07:03 |
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Sewi |
No - I currently don't have SVN on windows :) |
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Sewi |
Wait, I''l download and install... |
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Alias |
Please, thank |
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Alias |
Any progress? |
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Sewi |
Installation completed |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r12377 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12377 |
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Hyppolit |
This is a test |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ |
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Alias |
Well that's weird |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r12378 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12378 |
| 07:29 |
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Hyppolit |
Directory tree improvements |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Directory/ trunk/Padre/t/ |
| 07:29 |
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Alias |
I can only commit if I use http and not https |
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Sewi |
Strange |
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Alias |
So the new directory tree code is looking pretty awesome |
| 07:31 |
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Alias |
Incremental discovery is back in place |
| 07:31 |
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Alias |
Although it doesn't save expansion state yet, and won't refresh properly to add or remove new entries |
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Alias |
But it's at least not going to explode on big home directories any more |
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Alias |
And all the tasks involved support cancellation |
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Alias |
So when you switch from one project to another, all the background file scanning stops and restarts for the new project properly |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r12379 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12379 |
| 07:33 |
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Hyppolit |
This is a test |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ |
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Sewi |
Working (with http) |
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Alias |
Man, off |
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Alias |
I would have thought you shouldn't be able to commit with security off |
| 07:39 |
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Alias |
In any case, I'm happy to get my directory tree stuff in, and to understand why it wasn't working |
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Alias |
So I'm going to head off I think |
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Sewi |
sleep well :) |
| 07:42 |
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Alias |
Oh it's not sleeing |
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Alias |
It's 5:42pm and I'm at Microsoft TechEd |
| 07:42 |
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Alias |
For the sekrit open source track in the backrooms |
| 07:42 |
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El_Che |
Alias: are you speaking today? |
| 07:43 |
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Alias |
Spoke on Wednesday |
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Alias |
Unofficially |
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Alias |
My badge doesn't actually say speaker |
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Alias |
Nobody's does :) |
| 07:43 |
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Alias |
This track doesn't actually exist |
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Alias |
It's one of those "faceless men in dark rooms" things |
| 07:43 |
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El_Che |
sounds kink |
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El_Che |
y |
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El_Che |
:) |
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El_Che |
how is the experience so far? |
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Alias |
It was nice to catch up with the open source microsofties again |
| 07:46 |
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Alias |
The conference itself was endless talks about Azure, Sharepoint, Windows Phone 7 and Powershell |
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Alias |
So not exactly my cup of tea |
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Alias |
I did, however, see a few people in Visual Studio demos doing some interesting things |
| 07:47 |
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Alias |
So I'm currently intalling Visual Studio Ultimate from the MSDN subscription I made them give me |
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El_Che |
I know MS has some opensource people, but it is still difficult for me to picture it |
| 07:47 |
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Alias |
To see how viable it might be to steal stuff for Padre |
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Alias |
Now we've got what I hope is a truly scalable threads/task platform, there's lots more opportunities to steal CPU heavy features |
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Alias |
Also, the wireless here is awesome |
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Alias |
Now almost everyone else has left, I'm getting 2.4meg a second on the wireless |
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Alias |
I'm just torrenting some stuff for the flight home |
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Alias |
Then I'll be out of here as well |
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El_Che |
hehe |
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Alias |
right, later |
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El_Che |
Alias, how is perl thread performance nowadays |
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El_Che |
damns |
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El_Che |
:) |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r12380 | sblandin++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12380 |
| 10:09 |
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Hyppolit |
Updated Padre and Catalyst Plugin Italian translation |
| 10:09 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/share/locale/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Catalyst/share/locale/ |
| 10:21 |
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zenog |
One question: Is there a place in the Padre source code where I can catch keyboard events -- e.g. pressing Ctrl-PageUp? |
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Steffen |
I think this is generally done per widget? |
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zenog |
It can be on a higher level. I just see that you can specify shortcuts for actions in ActionnLibrary.pm |
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Steffen |
Okay, sorry for the misinformation. |
| 10:24 |
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Steffen |
I'm a bit rusty with my Wx. |
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zenog |
I wonder whether it would be possible to declare several different shortcuts for the same action. |
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zenog |
Steffen: I don't think that was misinformation ... I did not really clarify what I meant ;-) |
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I guess I'll ask Alias when he's the next time around ... |
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zenog |
Who uses/likes the current shortcuts for cycling through the opened files (Alt-Left, Alt-Right)? |
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zenog |
Firefox, Chrome, the GNOME Terminal, etc. use Ctrl-PageUp/Ctrl-PageDown. |
| 10:44 |
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zenog |
Would anyone object to changing the shortcut for better external consistency? |
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zenog |
I only know about Linux, in particular GNOME, so I'd like to know what the typical behavior of tabbed applications on Mac OS X and Windows is ... |
| 10:52 |
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zenog |
... otherwise I'll just do it and see if someone complains ;-) |
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Jagdwurs1 |
hi zenog :( |
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Jagdwurs1 |
i had never used Ctrl-PageUp or Alt-Pageup keys |
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zenog |
Jagdwurs1: You mean in Padre or in other applications? Which platform? |
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zenog: in every application, i switch tabs just with mouse :D |
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zenog |
Jagdwurs1: Okay, that means a change here would make no difference to you ;-) |
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Jagdwurs1 |
yep |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r12381 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12381 |
| 11:05 |
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Hyppolit |
external consistency: tab switching similar to Google Chrome, Firefox, etc. |
| 11:05 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ |
| 11:13 |
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Sewi |
zeno: Why do you change defaults which have been in place for month? |
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zenog |
Sewi: Because many other applications do it differently, and it would be nice for new users if Padre behaves like they expect it. |
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zenog |
Sewi: If it is a big problem, it can be rolled back ... but first I would rather discuss this. |
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Sewi |
Some other applications you use on Windows have other things |
| 11:17 |
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Sewi |
Yes, discuss it first, please. Before changing things others are used to and expect to work. |
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Sewi |
Or add both shortcuts |
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zenog |
Sewi: Adding both shortcuts would be best, but is not (yet) supported ... at least it is not obvious to me (was the thing that I wanted to try first) |
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Sewi |
It IS supported, in Main.pm |
| 11:19 |
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Sewi |
But don't say "I changed defaults, let's discuss the changes while others can't work with Padre any longer" |
| 11:21 |
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zenog |
Sewi: Fair enough, but please consider the change was in trunk, and it does not break anything. |
| 11:22 |
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Sewi |
Oh, it breaks the work of everybody working with Padre. |
| 11:23 |
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Sewi |
And things like this accidentally go into releases, usually. |
| 11:26 |
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zenog |
Sewi: I disagree with you here. It 'breaks' only the work of those people who use 'Alt-Left/Right' regularly. Where 'break' means they will be startled for a second, just to realize then it is now done like in many other applications. |
| 11:27 |
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zenog |
Sewi: And honestly, I doubt there are really many who use Alt-Left/-Right, because some people use the mouse, some people use Ctrl-Tab, etc. |
| 11:28 |
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zenog |
Sewi: plus, this is not a stable release of Padre, and the UI is not frozen, but open to changes. |
| 11:28 |
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zenog |
Sewi: But of course I am happy to discuss the changes ;-) |
| 11:31 |
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zenog |
Sewi: I am not sure whether changing it in sub key_up is the way to go - maybe it would be nicer to extend Action.pm to support several shortcuts for each action. |
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Sewi |
zenog: It's nor "many", it's "two" and it's Windows-dependent |
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zenog |
Sewi: This would also be necessary anyway if we want to allow several shortcuts per action when users are allowed to redefine shortcuts using the (not finished) shortcut editor. |
| 11:34 |
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Sewi |
Please revert it, add Ctrl+PgUp/Down to Main.pm::KeyUp and then start adding multiple shortcuts to the actions model if you want |
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zenog |
Sewi: What do you think: leave the name 'shortcut', but additionally (to the current scalars) allow array references containing several shortcuts, or rename it to 'shortcuts' and only allow array references as values? |
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Sewi |
first option: shortcut => SCALAR and shortcut => ARRAY-ref |
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mkt-REssaCaNiver |
hello for all |
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zenog |
Hi mkt-REssaCaNiver |
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zenog |
hm. Seems as if it is not that easy to have more than one shortcut per action, because the shortcuts are defined by what is in the menu, and that can only be one shortcut ... |
| 13:01 |
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Sewi |
Sure. |
| 13:01 |
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Sewi |
Push the first one to the menu and any others to a map for Main.pm::KeyUp |
| 13:08 |
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zenog |
hm. Not very satisfying, but will try something like this ... |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r12382 | jagd++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12382 |
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Hyppolit |
update zh-cn translation |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/share/locale/ |
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jagd++ |
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Jagdwurs1 |
:D thx |
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dapatrick |
When is the next release due? |
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dapatrick |
Or rather, when is feature freez? |
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dapatrick |
e |
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dapatrick |
I ask because I need to get some more tests in for the Method::Signatures stuff and I'm trying to gauge how much time I have to do so. |
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zenog |
danlucraft: I guess there are no feature freezes ... |
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zenog |
oops, meant dapatrick, of course |
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zenog |
Wouldn't it be nice to have shortcuts for the refactoring features? |
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zenog |
Any suggestions? |
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zenog |
Currently, I only use MonoDevelop as another refactoring IDE, and there F2 is for "rename variable". What is the shortcut in Eclipse? |
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dapatrick |
zenog++ |
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dapatrick |
I don't remember the shortcuts in Eclipse, but yes, that would be nice. |
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It's Shift-Alt-R in Eclipse. |
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Laidback_01 |
hello. I need to create a windows binary to mgmt of records in a db. This is to be contained in our hospital. I'm liking perl, but... anyway, since you guys use Wx and perl, I thought it best to ask here. well Khisanth let me here anyway.. |
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Laidback_01 |
so, for my first gui based app, would it be a wise choice to choose Perl & Wx? I'd need to distribute this app to around 2k machines when it's complete. |
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Laidback_01 |
Or, is there a better-for-a-beginner/simpler choice I should make? |
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mattp_ |
youve never done gui programming before? |
