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chorny |
Padre tests fail in Strawberry Portable |
| 00:16 |
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Alias |
That is expectefd |
| 00:17 |
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Alias |
which ones? |
| 00:21 |
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chorny |
http://perl.pastebin.com/4AXhyqbv |
| 00:21 |
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chorny |
t/14-warnings.t |
| 00:22 |
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chorny |
I asked him to try to skip tests. Padre works, but "However, when you press F5 to run the Perl script this doesn't work" |
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* Alias_ |
waves |
| 02:42 |
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Alias_ |
FYI, I'm back from my trip and continueing to try to finish the new directory tree |
| 02:42 |
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Alias_ |
continuing |
| 02:45 |
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Alias_ |
Would anyone be opposed to me removing the splash screen by default? |
| 02:46 |
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Alias_ |
It's really not showing for very long any more, and pre-loading the image drivers is probably wasting memory |
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asarch |
Have you ever build Padre on OpenBSD? |
| 03:24 |
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asarch |
It seems that OpenBSD Perl doesn't support threads |
| 03:34 |
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Alias_ |
Then it's not going to work, Padre needs threads |
| 03:35 |
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Alias_ |
Although the new Task API is built so that alternative backends are at least possible |
| 03:35 |
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Alias_ |
Someone would need to build an alternative task manager that supported processes |
| 03:35 |
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Alias_ |
(somehow) |
| 03:35 |
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Alias_ |
Or we need a private Perl build on OpenBSD |
| 03:41 |
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Alias_ |
Some kind of /opt/padre with it's own Perl built in, Strawberry Professional style |
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asarch |
I even try enabling "THREADED_PERL=true" in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/Makefile.bsd-wrapper |
| 04:17 |
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asarch |
And doing the "cd /usr/src && make build" |
| 04:17 |
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asarch |
But it fails |
| 04:18 |
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asarch |
My log: http://openbsd.pastebin.com/JWt74MjD |
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Alias_ |
asarch: You might need to take this to #p5p |
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asarch |
Thank you very much Alias_ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r12398 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12398 |
| 09:38 |
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Hyppolit |
Added tracing to Padre::Locker specifically to report on exceptions that are thrown (and ignored) during method_decrement post-lock behaviours |
| 09:38 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ |
| 09:40 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r12399 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12399 |
| 09:40 |
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Hyppolit |
Change Padre::Cache to use methods, for cleanliness. |
| 09:40 |
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Hyppolit |
Trying to fix second-order issues in the directory tree. |
| 09:40 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ |
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Sewi |
Alias_: What about adding a "refresh" menu option to the right-click-menu of directories in the directory browser for rescanning just the current selected directory? |
| 10:13 |
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Alias__ |
I'm going to make it automatic |
| 10:14 |
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Alias__ |
In a future Wx.pm release, it will support directory nofication |
| 10:14 |
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Alias__ |
So it makes sense to do a time-based rescan in the short term, and then switch to notifier for 2 of the 3 platforms later |
| 10:15 |
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daxim |
File::ChangeNotify |
| 10:16 |
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Alias__ |
daxim: ->wait_for_events blocks the event loop |
| 10:16 |
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Alias__ |
You need something similar, but integrated into Wx (or else you burn an entire thread just for the watcher, which is a possibility too) |
| 10:17 |
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Alias__ |
Our threads are a lot lighter than they used to be, but I haven't yet added support for permanent services in the TaskManager thread accounting yet |
| 10:18 |
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Alias__ |
Sewi: Would you be ok with me removing the splash screen? |
| 10:18 |
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Sewi |
I like it and it covers the time until Padre starts. |
| 10:18 |
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Sewi |
You want to init WX later? |
| 10:19 |
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Alias__ |
Partly it doesn't work right on Unix, partly it should reduce the memory loaded before the thread spawn, which should reduce the per-thread costs more |
| 10:20 |
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Alias__ |
For me the time before Padre starts is currently way down |
| 10:20 |
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Alias__ |
2 seconds or so |
| 10:20 |
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Alias__ |
Compared to Eclipse and IDEA, our final load is faster than their splash screen load |
| 10:21 |
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Alias__ |
BTW, get this |
| 10:21 |
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Sewi |
Remove it if it safes speed and memory |
| 10:21 |
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Alias__ |
The longest part of our startup is the one second timeout on socket connect to the non-existant single instance server |
| 10:22 |
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Alias__ |
If I could find a way to drop that to a quarter of a second, we'd almost double the startup speed |
| 10:24 |
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El_Che |
Alias__: I guess it took you a lot of work getting the threads fast? Last time I compared threads were a *lot* slower than forking |
| 10:24 |
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Sewi |
If we really want the splash back, we could add another really lightweigt process for the splash which exits after the splash is no longer needed |
| 10:24 |
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Alias__ |
That may well still be the case |
| 10:25 |
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Alias__ |
Sewi: Or use platform-specific way lower level APIs |
| 10:25 |
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Alias__ |
El_Che: They are still fairly expensive, they are just minimally expensive |
| 10:25 |
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Sewi |
Remove the splash if it improves speed and memory. |
| 10:25 |
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Alias__ |
0.1 to 0.2 seconds per spawn |
| 10:26 |
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Alias__ |
Plus, the thread spawns themselves also happen in a thread |
| 10:26 |
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Alias__ |
So they don't block the main thread |
| 10:26 |
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Alias__ |
Which means when Padre needs a new worker, it doesn't block |
| 10:26 |
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Alias__ |
There's more wins ahead too |
| 10:26 |
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Alias__ |
If we get the stripped down Wx loader, we win even more |
| 10:29 |
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El_Che |
WOW |
| 10:30 |
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Alias__ |
It's taken no small amount of invention though |
| 10:30 |
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Alias__ |
Accumulated work of several people |
| 10:31 |
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Alias__ |
And at the end of the day, we're still not going to be faster than AnyEvent or Erlang, or even forking (on Unix with COW support) |
| 10:32 |
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Alias__ |
But at least now the cost is low enough that it doesn't matter in something as heavy as an IDE |
| 10:32 |
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Alias__ |
And it doesn't need to block |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r12400 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12400 |
| 12:47 |
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Hyppolit |
Save and restore the directory tree state as we move back and forth between projects |
| 12:47 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Directory/ |
| 12:54 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r12401 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12401 |
| 12:54 |
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Hyppolit |
Noting directory tree improvements |
| 12:54 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ |
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jq |
Alias__: have you checked what i implemented wrt my_dist_config()? what about a 0.92_03 release? |
| 13:26 |
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Alias__ |
I'll take a look |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r12402 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12402 |
| 13:50 |
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Hyppolit |
LaTeX plugin: update TODO file |
| 13:50 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre-Plugin-LaTeX/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r12403 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12403 |
| 14:38 |
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Hyppolit |
wider KeyBindings dialog s.t. German translation is displayed nicer |
| 14:38 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r12404 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12404 |
| 15:06 |
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Hyppolit |
Shell Script plugin: comment support, added |
| 15:06 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre-Plugin-ShellScript/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-ShellScript/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-ShellScript/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-ShellScript/t/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r12405 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12405 |
| 15:07 |
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Hyppolit |
Updated German translation |
| 15:07 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/share/locale/ |
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Hyppolit |
#911: Syntax check results should be shown by underlining (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]ket/911#comment:1 ] |
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dapatrick |
t/91-vi.t just failed 16/16 tests. |
| 16:16 |
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dapatrick |
Is this known? |
| 16:17 |
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Sewi |
no failures here |
| 16:17 |
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Sewi |
which OS? |
| 16:17 |
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dapatrick |
Linux. |
| 16:19 |
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Sewi |
Me too, Ubuntu 10.something |
| 16:19 |
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Sewi |
10.04.1 |
| 16:20 |
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Sewi |
Anything more than just "fail"? |
| 16:20 |
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dapatrick |
Hmm. "Parse errors: Bad plan. You planned 16 tests but ran 0." |
| 16:21 |
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dapatrick |
Weird: |
| 16:21 |
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dapatrick |
darianp esteban:~/workspace/Padre$ perl -c t/91-vi.t |
| 16:21 |
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dapatrick |
Segmentation fault |
| 16:21 |
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Sewi |
Looks like something running badly wrong. |
| 16:21 |
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Sewi |
make clean; perl Makefile.PL && make test |
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dapatrick |
Just did that. |
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* Sewi |
updating... |
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Sewi |
No errors, too. |
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Sewi |
ping szbalint |
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dapatrick |
So, I did make test again, got a Wx symbol location error and then a kernel freeze/crash. |
| 16:26 |
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Sewi |
bad |
| 16:26 |
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dapatrick |
And I had just installed an Ubuntu update to libwxwidgets. |
| 16:26 |
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dapatrick |
I'm doing to make test again and see if I crash. |
| 16:26 |
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Sewi |
Alias did something to the Wx loading earlier today. |
| 16:26 |
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dapatrick |
Then I'm going to rebuild Wx. |
| 16:26 |
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Sewi |
But I don't really thing it should cause something like this |
| 16:26 |
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dapatrick |
(the Perl mod) |
| 16:27 |
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dapatrick |
Yeah, no. |
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szbalint |
Hyppolit: sz? |
| 16:27 |
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dapatrick |
I think it's related to my Ubuntu update. |
| 16:27 |
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szbalint |
hm. |
| 16:27 |
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dapatrick |
Okay, here I go. |
| 16:27 |
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Sewi |
szbalint: I was looking for you this time :-) |
| 16:27 |
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szbalint |
oh :p |
| 16:27 |
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Sewi |
You did WWW::Curl? |
| 16:27 |
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szbalint |
yes, still do. |
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Sewi |
sorry with disturbing you about it here, but is there _any_ chance to get the libcurl version info? |
| 16:29 |
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Sewi |
Seems client certificates don't run with gnutls but with openssl and I want to add a check before others (or I somewhere in the future) also waste hours on this problem :-) |
| 16:29 |
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Sewi |
Add a check to my module which also might go to CPAN. |
| 16:30 |
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szbalint |
sure, just use version() |
| 16:30 |
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szbalint |
that's what I'm doing in t/08ssl.t |
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Sewi |
thanks. I tried curl_version and curl_version_info but didn't make it to version :-) |
| 16:31 |
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szbalint |
if you need an example :) |
| 16:31 |
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Sewi |
Just tried it and it works. |
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Sewi |
szbalint++ |
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Sewi |
download? |
| 16:32 |
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Hyppolit |
download is http://padre.perlide.org/download.html |
| 16:32 |
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Sewi |
sz? |
| 16:32 |
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Hyppolit |
sz is http://www.flickr.com/photos/szbalint/3812328050/ |
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Sewi |
Hyppolit: sz? |
| 16:32 |
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Sewi |
Seems he doesn't like to be addressed :-) |
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szbalint |
direct addressing doesn't work yeah :) |
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szbalint |
Sewi: what does your module do? |
| 16:33 |
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Sewi |
It's an merchant API for a prepaid card service.# |
| 16:33 |
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szbalint |
cool. :) |
| 16:33 |
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Sewi |
I'm still fighting with them to allow me to publish it. |
| 16:33 |
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Sewi |
www.cash-ticket.com |
| 16:35 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r12406 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12406 |
| 16:35 |
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Hyppolit |
browse_message calls now (sort of) overlay existing directory listing... but not very well, and it often breaks |
| 16:35 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Directory/ trunk/Padre/t/ |
| 16:35 |
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szbalint |
lately I'm getting more and more feedback for WWW::Curl. That's great :) |
| 16:36 |
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Alias__ |
I didn't touch the Wx loading |
| 16:36 |
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Alias__ |
But I'm about to |
| 16:36 |
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Sewi |
You should ask them to add it to the libcurl API list on http://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/ |
| 16:37 |
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Sewi |
Alias_: Sorry, didn't follow your commits exactly enough to know if you were done or not. |
| 16:37 |
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Alias__ |
I haven't been working on it |
| 16:37 |
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Alias__ |
I've been fiddling with the directory tree |
| 16:39 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r12407 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12407 |
| 16:39 |
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Hyppolit |
- The startup splash is now disabled by default. Padre starts up very |
| 16:39 |
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Hyppolit |
quickly these days, and delaying image loading should reduce the |
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Hyppolit |
per-thread memory cost more (ADAMK) |
| 16:39 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ |
| 16:39 |
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Alias__ |
There you go :) |
| 16:40 |
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Alias__ |
Righto, to bed for me now |
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szbalint |
Sewi: it's there: http://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/perl/ |
| 16:41 |
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Alias__ |
I'll continue bashing on the directory tree tomorrow, my brain has run out of juice |
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Sewi |
szbalint: oh, sorry, I looked at the API parts. |
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chorny |
Padre 0.69 startup = ~20 seconds on my slow computer. First run from reboot, second was ~10 seconds |
| 16:43 |
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Alias__ |
chorny: If you would wrap NYTPRof around that and work out where it all is, that would be awesome |
| 16:43 |
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dapatrick |
Okay, I just needed to rebuild Wx after that Ubuntu update. |
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El_Che |
lo |
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El_Che |
dapatrick: I had those crashes a long time ago |
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El_Che |
also on ubuntu |
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chorny |
Alias_: I'll try when I get free time with clear mind |
| 16:44 |
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El_Che |
was impressed to get a kernel freeze running a make test as a regular user |
| 16:45 |
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dapatrick |
Ha. Me too. |
| 16:45 |
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El_Che |
If I recall correctly it was when testing utf8 charsets |
| 16:45 |
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dapatrick |
Very straing. |
| 16:45 |
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dapatrick |
s/straing/strange/ |
| 16:45 |
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dapatrick |
For me it was just after an attempt to load Wx. |
| 16:46 |
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El_Che |
I tried the same thing on an other computer and no prob. Redo the thing in the affected one and zoof: freeze |
| 16:50 |
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El_Che |
running it before and after the ubuntu wx upgrade |
| 16:51 |
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El_Che |
before is ok (this was the affected computer) |
| 16:53 |
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El_Che |
Wx loading gives an error |
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El_Che |
the first test |
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El_Che |
and makes the computer slow |
| 16:53 |
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dapatrick |
Same thing I saw. |
| 16:54 |
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El_Che |
no freeze yet, but it sounds similar |
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El_Che |
cpu and ram usage through the rood |
| 16:56 |
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El_Che |
dapatrick: what do you mean with rebuil Wx? Wx.pm? |
| 16:56 |
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dapatrick |
Yep, Wx.pm |
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El_Che |
ok, thx |
| 16:57 |
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dapatrick |
I cpan look'ed Wx and rebuilt. |
| 17:02 |
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El_Che |
it passes the WX test, indeed |
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blakew |
hi - when I set "use lib" with FindBin for module paths Padre thinks $FindBin::Bin is /tmp |
| 17:54 |
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blakew |
under settings -> run parameters -> current document it shows the correct path to the script however |
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joerg |
hi there |
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joerg |
i've a problem |
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joerg |
i've tried to install padre on ubuntu 9.04 ... mean "download and setup local::lib ( http://search.cpan.org/dist/local-lib/ )" = cpan install local::lib |
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blakew |
..is there a recommended way of getting use lib + FindBin to work in Padre? |
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blakew |
when I add the lib directory to current document's interpreter args with -I I still get a "Can't locate in @INC" error |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r12408 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12408 |
| 18:44 |
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Hyppolit |
links to Padre talk at YAPC::EU 2010 |
| 18:44 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/ |
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szabgab |
blakew: try setting @INC in a begin block? |
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szabgab |
BEGIN block |
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szabgab |
or set PERL5LIB before launching Padre |
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rindolf |
Hi all. |
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szabgab |
I guess running the script using F5 works well but the syntax checker not |
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szabgab |
as it saves the file in the /tmp dir |
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blakew |
thanks szabgab- the @INC trick doesn't work with FindBin for the syntax checker either (same issue with /tmp) |
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blakew |
When I set -I switch under Preferences for the script to the absolute path of the lib directory, that doesn't seem to have any effect |
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blakew |
Run Parameters -> Current Document -> Interpreter arguments |
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blakew |
the path I give doesn't show up in the @INC error message |
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blakew |
ok, I guess run parameters only apply to F5, not syntax checker. Is this intentional? |
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chorny |
blakew: IMHO, yes |
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blakew |
i guess my only option then is either absolute paths or PERL5LIB? |
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blakew |
(to get syntax checking) |
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blakew |
my issue is I develop on different machines with different paths to localized ./lib directories |
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Sewi |
Sorry, but we didn't find a smart solution for this :-( |
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blakew |
what about an option to have the syntax checker use the run parameters? |
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Sewi |
Won't work - because the temporary file for syntax checking is created in a temp dir (/tmp or C:\temp usually). |
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Sewi |
perl -Ilib won't work there. |
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Sewi |
We can't create a file in the project dir because it might be remote and non-executable (or non-readable by perl -c) |
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blakew |
thanks Sewi |
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Sewi |
There is a ticket for this. |
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Sewi |
But we didn't get a smart, always-working solution until now. |
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Sewi |
Is it possible to run perl inside Perl? |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r12409 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12409 |
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Hyppolit |
improve Perl 6 coloring |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre-Plugin-Perl6/lib/Padre/Plugin/Perl6/ |
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Sewi |
Pass a $source variable to the perl library? |
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Sewi |
(with -c set) |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r12410 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12410 |
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Hyppolit |
try to answer the worries of zenogantner about the command line thingy |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ |
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