Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2010-09-01

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04:08 asarch Perl doesn't work in FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE
04:08 asarch http://perl.pastebin.com/exqf8kCr
04:08 asarch I mean, Padre
04:08 asarch D'oh!
04:09 asarch Look at the line #1231: "#Padre requires a perl built using threads"
04:16 szabgab asarch: then you might need to build your own threaded perl
04:16 asarch The only BSD with default thread support for Perl is NetBSD
04:16 szabgab asarch: thought as I recall the port system of BSD supports it
04:17 asarch pgk_add -v perl p5-wxWidgets p5-Padre
04:17 szabgab asarch: look around here: http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Download
04:18 asarch D'oh!
04:18 asarch There is no "OpenBSD" section
04:18 asarch Thank you very much szabgab
04:19 asarch Not even Gentoo Perl support threads!: usethreads='undef';
04:20 asarch It seems that nobody likes threads
04:21 szabgab yeah, it's a n issue
04:22 szabgab I guess the distros might be better off having two separate perls in the package system
04:22 szabgab one with and one without threads
04:22 asarch [ebuild   R   ] dev-lang/perl-5.8.8-r8  USE="berkdb gdbm -build -debug -doc -ithreads -perlsuid" 9,887 kB
04:22 Hyppolit Changeset #8 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/8
04:24 asarch I guess I will have to use Slackware at work for better support
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05:44 asarch http://perl.pastebin.com/njjYKE6b
05:45 asarch On Strawberry Perl 5.10.x portable version
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11:54 waxhead alias_, right to roll out a release?
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12:22 Hyppolit svn: r12415 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12415
12:22 Hyppolit [S:H:P6] require STD 32116
12:22 Hyppolit trunk/Syntax-Highlight-Perl6/ trunk/Syntax-Highlight-Perl6/lib/ trunk/Syntax-Highlight-Perl6/lib/Syntax/Highlight/ trunk/Syntax-Highlight-Perl6​/lib/Syntax/Highlight/Perl6/ trunk/Syntax-Highlight-Perl6/t/
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13:22 Hyppolit svn: r12416 | sblandin++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12416
13:22 Hyppolit Updated Padre Italian translation
13:22 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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13:43 Hyppolit svn: r12417 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12417
13:43 Hyppolit added it translation to Changes
13:43 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
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17:22 Hyppolit svn: r12418 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12418
17:22 Hyppolit fix more small translation problems
17:22 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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18:00 szabgab pls give /op to Hyppolit and myself
18:00 szabgab we were both rebooted
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18:01 Laidback_01 just did a cpan install Padre
18:02 Laidback_01 trying to run it yields: 12:00:21 PM: Error: Cannot set locale to 'en_GB'.
18:02 Laidback_01 this is perl 5.12.1 on opensolaris
18:02 Laidback_01 just wondering if that's an easy error to sort out... google helping little
18:03 El_Che Laidback_01: does Opensolaris have a threaded perl? (as reference, Solaris 10 does not)
18:04 Laidback_01 yes, I've installed my own localized perl
18:04 El_Che ah ok
18:04 Laidback_01 it's a clean compile - just for Padre
18:05 El_Che Laidback_01: does it run if you change the locale to something else? C, en_US, ..
18:05 Laidback_01 Love Padre, use it on Linux & Windows, now wishing I had it on my main desktop - OSOL... using quanta right now and that's kind of a poor substitute
18:05 Laidback_01 Okay, I'm not quite sure where to set the locale, but I'll take a look
18:05 chorny padre --locale=en
18:06 El_Che or maybe something like: LANG=C padre
18:07 chorny error message appears only in wxWidgets, so it is harder to debug it
18:09 Laidback_01 nope, no matter what I do, it's the same error message
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18:12 chorny Laidback_01: can you use Carp::Always  or Devel::SimpleTrace  to get a stack trace?
18:13 Laidback_01 I'll do it.  What's the preferred way.  and is there a quick guide to doing it?
18:13 yoni rindolf, Hello sir.
18:13 chorny 1. install them
18:14 rindolf Hi yoni
18:14 chorny 2. perl -MCarp::Always path/to/padre
18:15 Laidback_01 okay, cool, I was on the right track then
18:15 daxim first try:   LANG=en_GB perl -e'use locale'   to see whether it is just perl, instead of the software on top of it
18:16 Laidback_01 wrote a quick wrapper script with the req libs
18:16 szabgab Laidback_01: do you mean Padre actually does not run?
18:16 Laidback_01 no, it'll not run.  I've let it sit for about 10 minutes
18:16 szabgab that message is actually only a warning on most systems AFAI
18:16 szabgab oh
18:17 szabgab I am not sure that the error you showed us is actually the issue, even though it says Error
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18:17 szabgab but maybe it is
18:17 Laidback_01 okay, well, I'll get a stack trace here soon and pastebin it.
18:17 Laidback_01 daxim, I'll do that in a sec... installing other libs right now.
18:17 daxim just open a second terminal
18:18 szabgab El_Che: could you please /op Hyppolit and me ?
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18:19 * szabgab is reading about MongoDB
18:19 shadowpaste "Laidback_01" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "Results of LANG=en_GB perl -e'use locale'" (7 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/49799
18:20 El_Che looks like an innocent warning
18:20 El_Che should stop padre from running
18:20 El_Che should NOT stop padre from running
18:20 szabgab El_Che: ty
18:21 daxim right.  the appropriate fix is to install/reconfigure locales
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18:21 daxim on linux the package is called locales, or part of glibc, on solaris no idea
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18:26 Laidback_01 hmm, that locale bit is related to the local install I did of perl
18:26 Laidback_01 I'm not quite sure that's the problem
18:26 Laidback_01 running perl -MCarp::Always bin/padre doesn't yield anything more
18:33 szabgab you could try PADRE_DEBUG=1 and/or PADRE_DIE=1 before you launch padre
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18:37 mj41 Hi. I played with Linux::Inotify2 a bit ( see http://github.com/mj41/perl-inotify ). Probably Linux::Inotify2 could be useful for Padre too.
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20:44 shadowpaste "Laidback_01" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "PADRE_DEBUG=1 padre" (21 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/49808
20:44 Laidback_01 just got out of a meeting, sorry that took so long.
20:45 Laidback_01 I don't see a thing in that debug that indicates why it won't startup
20:46 shadowpaste "Laidback_01" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "PADRE_DIE=1 padre" (16 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/49809
20:46 Laidback_01 now that gets me an interesting error
20:49 Laidback_01 what the heck is Wx::Loader::Custom? I can't find that in cpan
20:56 Laidback_01 okay, it's wxPerl.  I'm recompiling that, and there's just thousands of warnings.  getting lines ever so often 902 warnings, 1056 warnings, 801 warnings, etc.  So.. quanta it is.  I've got no idea why it doesn't work... it just doesn't.
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22:23 asarch What was wrong? http://perl.pastebin.com/s32VgR9y
22:26 kthakore asarch: hi
22:26 kthakore asarch: resintatll Time::HiRes
22:26 kthakore cpan Time::HiRes
22:26 kthakore err
22:26 kthakore cpan
22:26 kthakore then
22:26 kthakore cpan> fforce Time::HiRes
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22:28 kthakore hi Sewi
22:28 Sewi gn8 kthakore :-)
22:28 kthakore gn8?
22:28 kthakore gn-ate?
22:28 Sewi good n-8 = good night
22:28 Sewi I'm on my way to bed :)
22:29 kthakore oh ok
22:29 kthakore asarch: how did that go?
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23:10 rindolf Hi all.
23:10 rindolf Alias , Alias__ : here?
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