Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2010-09-08

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01:18 garu Alias: awesome! any release ETA?
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07:58 Alias garu: We're in the final release stretch
07:59 Alias Dev release 6 shortly
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10:03 Hyppolit #452: focus order in »Find and Replace« dialog is buggered (accepted defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/452#comment:2 ]
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12:58 Alias yeah, I bet it is
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13:06 Hyppolit #1001: "Save Intuition" should not have a separate menu entry (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1001 ]
13:16 Hyppolit #416: encode dialog (reopened defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/416#comment:3 ]
13:23 Hyppolit #1002: "Quick fix" feature on plain text document leads to error output on console (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1002 ]
13:26 Hyppolit #898: "Find in Files" dialog: buttons too small on Ubuntu 9.10 (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/898#comment:2 ]
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13:40 Hyppolit svn: r12436 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12436
13:40 Hyppolit 'Quick Menu Access' dialog now completely translated
13:40 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
13:57 Hyppolit #1003: Undo and redo's shortcuts do not show up in the menu (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1003 ]
14:01 daxim http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3667394/how-ca​n-i-install-activeperl-in-windows/3667462#3667462
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14:29 Hyppolit #1004: Preferences dialog: Tab navigation hangs at "Default project directory" (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1004 ]
14:36 Hyppolit #1005: Uninitialized values when starting debugger on a file with errors (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1005 ]
14:36 zenog I should work in quality assurance ;-)
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15:03 Hyppolit svn: r12437 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12437
15:03 Hyppolit linked to FSF and OSI definitions, clarified Padre's feature list a bit
15:03 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/ trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/tt/pages/
15:06 zenog If someone has access to the website, could you update it? (not high priority ...)
15:09 Sewi zenog: You?
15:09 Sewi It's on svn, too
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15:11 hakken hello!!
15:12 hakken anyone there could help?
15:13 hakken my padre worked fine yesterday.
15:16 hakken just now, I try to start padre.
15:16 hakken It splashed the starting picture and gone.
15:16 hakken now matter how I try.
15:16 hakken It just won't start.
15:16 hakken I raise up taskmgr ( windows vista). I can see the process of padre show up a monment.
15:16 hakken anybody help?
15:17 garu hakken: try padre --reset
15:17 hakken Thank you. I'll try now.
15:19 hakken I've done padre --reset in console. But It won't work either.
15:22 zenog Sewi: I changed it in SVN, but it doesn't update automagically, does it?
15:22 hakken I've uninstalled and reinstalled.
15:22 garu hakken: any messages if you just type "padre" on the console?
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15:23 garu or that
15:23 Sewi zenog: Abwarten und Tee trinken :-) It takes some time...
15:23 garu :(
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15:23 hakken no!
15:24 daxim do you know how to use the perl debugger, hakken?
15:24 hakken I've done padre > log.txt and check log.txt.
15:24 hakken no. I don't know how to use perl debugger.
15:24 zenog Sewi: okay! :-)
15:25 hakken can I use perl debugger to figure out what happen to my padre?
15:25 daxim yes, that was my intention
15:27 daxim do you want to learn it?  takes a couple of minutes
15:29 hakken please give me a clue how to do it.
15:29 hakken if it dosen't bother, yes!
15:29 daxim run   perl -d /path/to/padre   from console
15:29 daxim you should then see the debugger prompt
15:30 daxim ok so far?
15:30 hakken done
15:31 daxim good
15:31 daxim type  t  and enter to enable tracing
15:31 daxim type  c  and enter to run ("continue") the program
15:31 hakken done
15:31 daxim now copy the whole output into http://paste.scsys.co.uk/ so we can have a look at it where padre crashed
15:32 hakken wow! many lines run through!
15:32 daxim I know
15:33 hakken copy it! should I redirect the output to a text file to do that?
15:34 hakken it stop now. And the splash picture stop right inthe center of my desktop.
15:35 hakken What should I do now?
15:35 daxim do you have a debugger prompt again?
15:35 hakken yes
15:35 daxim type  q  to quit
15:36 hakken So I send the debugging message to http://paste.scsys.co.uk/  and wait. right?
15:37 daxim when you submit there, you'll get a link with a number.  give us that link.
15:42 hakken Could you tell me how I can copy those message in the debugger prompt? There are so many lines!
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15:43 daxim save the buffer to a file, or mark everything with the mouse, then copy the text to clipboard
15:46 hakken I can't mark text with mouse in console. Besides, the lines are so many so only the last part show in console.
15:48 hakken I'm using the "h" option in debugger prompt.
15:48 hakken But it seems no way to log those message.....
15:50 daxim |c   sends this command's output to the pager, whose buffer you might be able to save to a file if you have a good pager
15:53 hakken can you tell me what a pager is and recommend one?
15:53 daxim http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_pager
15:54 daxim http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/less_(Unix)
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15:55 zenog hakken: Maybe you can reach parts of the output by scrolling up the console window?
16:00 hakken I'm try to use "more" as my pager. But how i can send the debugger prompt output to more...
16:02 hakken perl  -d c:\strawberry\perl\bin\padre | more ....? won't work!
16:03 hakken in the debugger prompt, "... | more" won't work either.
16:04 hakken sorry! i just don't know how to use pager together with debugger prompt.
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16:55 zenog Padre seems to have memory leaks. I am now at 1.2 GB with 7 not-so-large files ...
16:57 kthakore zenog: haha yeah
16:57 zenog Eh, I take this back, was some other perl process ...
16:57 kthakore zenog: did you valgrind it
16:58 kthakore oh okie
16:58 zenog Padre said 182 MB, and was right ;-)
17:03 kthakore valgrind it
17:06 zenog Currently no time, I am fixing some .po files, and then I have to finish two proposals for my _real_ work ...
17:10 Hyppolit svn: r12438 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/12438
17:10 Hyppolit l10n: fixed some errors in different .po files
17:10 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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18:07 zenog I checked out the popularity contest results for Padre on Ubuntu and Debian, results can be found here: http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PackagingUbuntu http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/PackagingDebian
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