Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2010-09-23

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00:30 Alias <dapatrick>Down: http://downforeveryoneorjustm​e.com/http://svn.perlide.org
00:31 Alias Oddly, downforeveryoneorjustme.com is blocked by my corporate fun filter :)
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01:12 * hercynium waves
01:12 hercynium looks like the website is down, as is szabgab.org :(
01:16 Alias Yup
01:16 Alias Anyone seen Gabor?
01:16 Alias Or have his number?
01:16 hercynium nope :(
01:16 * hercynium wants to install it on this new macbook... so far things are not working out well
01:17 Alias You want to install trunk?
01:17 Alias It's a bit flakey right now
01:17 Alias I've just broken Find in Files :)
01:18 hercynium right now the main issue seems to be getting Wx to work. I've found a little info
01:18 hercynium it's a 64-bit snow leopard
01:18 Alias oh dear
01:18 hercynium yeah
01:19 Alias Mac is the worst platform for Padre as it is
01:19 hercynium I might bite the bullet and just use perlbrew - I've read that it will work on a 32-bit perl
01:19 Alias Have you filed a bug to rt for your problem?
01:19 hercynium not yet, but I will do!
01:20 hercynium (I'm still somewhat hopeful I will find a sane way to make it work with the system perl (5.10.0))
01:20 Alias Please
01:20 Alias Mattias is not massively responsive, but he's very persistant
01:21 hercynium and if I do tonight, I'll send in whatever I come up with. If not, it'll just be a plea for help with the error output :)
01:21 Alias you are using 0.98 right?
01:21 Alias Changes for Wx says it should work
01:21 hercynium yes
01:21 Alias So yeah, file a bug report
01:21 hercynium sure.
01:23 Alias http://www.cpantesters.org/distro/W/Wx.html#Wx-0.98
01:23 Alias Not promising
01:24 Alias Current version of Alien::wxWidgets?
01:24 hercynium nope. It seems that it's the same symbol that is failing to resolve everywhere
01:25 Alias Something worked on some slightly older versions
01:25 hercynium yes, thought at the moment, I'm uninstalling any wx-related stuff I have so I can start "clean" and see what goes wrong
01:26 Alias There's a working 5.10.0 on 0.9701
01:26 Alias Which probably means the native Perl
01:26 Alias http://www.cpantesters.org/cpan/report​/06983915-b19f-3f77-b713-d32bba55d77f
01:26 hercynium Ah! worth a try then!
01:27 Alias With an older Alien curiously
01:27 Alias Alien::wxWidgets 0.42 and Wx 0.9701
01:27 Alias Curious that's even allowed
01:27 Alias build_requires:   Alien::wxWidgets:        0.25
01:27 Alias wow
01:27 Alias Oooooold
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01:54 hercynium interesting... Alien::wxWidgets 0.51doesn't even prompt to install wx on my box
01:54 hercynium and 0.42's Build.pl doesn't work... but 0.48 is currently building away
01:55 hercynium (attempting with wxWidgets 2.9.0)
01:55 * hercynium will update with more info as it comes, and file that ticket when ready :)
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15:47 dapatrick Is svn still down?
15:47 dapatrick What's going on?
15:47 dapatrick Am I the only one experiencing this?
15:49 daxim server is managed by szabgab_
15:49 El_Che claudio@koksijde:~/Code/Padre/trunk$ svn update
15:49 El_Che svn: Server sent unexpected return value (503 Service Unavailable) in response to OPTIONS request for 'http://svn.perlide.org/padre/trunk'
15:49 El_Che ssame here
15:49 El_Che bbl
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16:05 rindolf Hi all.
16:05 dapatrick Hey.
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17:41 verb_ hello padres :)
17:41 skeeterbug hello
17:41 verb_ skeeterbug> one question
17:42 verb_ how can i delete whole line in padre
17:42 PerlJam ^L IIRC
17:43 verb_ ?
17:43 skeeterbug There is nothing in the keybindings to suggest that you can
17:44 skeeterbug I am rather new though, so I could be wrong
17:44 verb_ ctrl+l does
17:44 verb_ thanks
17:44 skeeterbug where did you find it?
17:46 skeeterbug interesting, it works for me, but CTRL-L is not in my keybindings at all
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19:10 lgtaube Greetings, all.
19:10 lgtaube My quest for a working Padre on OpenSolaris continues...
19:11 lgtaube anyone here using Padre on (Open)Solaris?
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19:43 rindolf lgtaube: do you have any specific problem?
19:44 El_Che besides oracle killing opensolaris? :)
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20:40 lgtaube rindolf: Well, I have yet to find a working combination of wxWidgets, perl, wxPerl and Padre
20:40 lgtaube El_Che: there is that specific problem, of course  :-)
20:40 rindolf lgtaube: did you try to build everything from source?
20:41 lgtaube distro-supplied perl (5.8.4) + distro-supplied wxWidgets (2.8.11) + wxperl slmost worked, Padre displayed the splash screen, and then:
20:41 lgtaube Nothing Happened.
20:42 lgtaube Yes, I have since then built perl-5.12.1 (dtrace enabled), wxWidgets-2.9.1
20:42 lgtaube from source
20:42 lgtaube everything working so far
20:43 lgtaube then I tried wxPerl/Wx-0.98, build worked fine, but tests failed, complaining of missing symbol
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20:46 lgtaube http://pastebin.com/NNjrRvtm
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21:00 lgtaube all built using sunstudio12u1
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21:15 rindolf Hi all.
21:15 rindolf lgtaube: here?
21:16 rindolf lgtaube: sorry for leaving - I moved to my laptop.
21:16 lgtaube np
21:17 rindolf lgtaube: :-)
21:18 rindolf lgtaube: OK, I guess SunStudio is the recommended compiler for OpenSolaris.
21:18 lgtaube yes, it is
21:18 rindolf lgtaube: OK.
21:19 rindolf lgtaube: I don't have a lot of experience with it.
21:19 lgtaube and before you ask, no I haven't tried to build with gcc   :-)
21:19 lgtaube ...yet
21:19 rindolf lgtaube: OK.
21:19 lgtaube sometimes things get personal, and when that happens, I won't let go
21:20 lgtaube this (getting Padre to run on osol) is almost personal by now  :-)
21:20 rindolf lgtaube: OK, which errors do  you get?
21:20 lgtaube http://pastebin.com/NNjrRvtm
21:20 lgtaube this one
21:21 lgtaube ld.so complains of missing symbol, but I have not yet found where it is referenced and/or where it is resolved (which lib)
21:21 lgtaube looks like a C++ mangled indentifier
21:22 lgtaube __1cDstdMout_of_range2T6M_v_
21:22 rindolf Yes.
21:22 rindolf I wonder why it tries to load Wx.so from the .cpan directory?
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21:26 lgtaube I am running the test suite for Wx, and I am using CPAN (or CPANPLUS) to build/install modules
21:26 rindolf lgtaube: ah, Wx.pm.
21:26 rindolf OK.
21:26 lgtaube it unpacks the module source in a temp dir, builds and runs the test suite in there
21:27 lgtaube there are no unresolved libraries (ie ldd shows that all references to libBLABLA.so are resolved)
21:29 lgtaube ..and since I have built perl and wxwidgets from source, using the same compiler, I can count out gcc/sunstudio incompatibilities
21:30 lgtaube which otherwise would have been highly probably, especially considering the fact that C++ is involved  :-)
21:30 lgtaube s/probably/probable/
21:31 kthakore seen szagab?
21:31 kthakore hrrm.
21:34 rindolf kthakore: he's in Slovenia.
21:34 kthakore rindolf: where the hell ... ?
21:34 kthakore sekrit mission?
21:34 rindolf kthakore: vacation I think.
21:35 kthakore what is in Solvenia?
21:36 kthakore http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/​File:View_from_Mangart_MC.jpg
21:36 kthakore OOOOH!
21:36 kthakore wow
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21:36 kthakore hi Alias_
21:40 lgtaube rindolf: I am off to bed, thanks for listening    :-)
21:40 rindolf lgtaube: sorry I could not help you.
21:40 rindolf lgtaube: good night.
21:40 kthakore rindolf: maybe you can help me!
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21:41 rindolf kthakore: I can try.
21:41 kthakore rindolf: are you good with ssh problems?
21:41 rindolf kthakore: possibly.
21:41 rindolf kthakore: I've solved a few.
21:42 kthakore I am soooo stumped
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21:42 kthakore well I am trying to configure gitosis (it uses ssh)
21:42 kthakore rindolf: I gave it a public key to use as auth but it keeps asking for password
21:42 kthakore rindolf: can I show you the ssh -vvv ?
21:43 rindolf kthakore: pastebin it.
21:44 kthakore kk ... wtf
21:44 kthakore it works now
21:44 kthakore wtf!
21:45 kthakore HOW?
21:45 kthakore ....
21:45 kthakore :[
21:45 kthakore rindolf: nvm ....
21:45 kthakore It seems reboot fixed it
21:45 rindolf kthakore: ah.
21:45 kthakore rindolf++ for halping!
21:45 rindolf kthakore: :-)
21:45 kthakore I spent 4 hrs on it
21:45 kthakore rebooted so many times
21:46 kthakore rindolf: it is all due to you! .... bug got scared of you!
21:46 rindolf kthakore: :-)
21:46 rindolf kthakore: rebooted?
21:46 rindolf kthakore: why do you need to reboot the machine for that?
21:47 kthakore no I restarted sshd
21:47 kthakore it might be config issu
21:47 kthakore I have been changin it a lot maybe a change didn't take effect
21:57 lgtaube rindolf:    The symbol in question is std::out_of_range  (C++ stuff), and now I'm *really* off to bed  :-)
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