Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2010-11-12

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06:08 szabgab zenog: better to teach people to install with local:lib and not with sudo IMHO
06:09 szabgab so they won't overwrite their installation from the package management system
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09:09 zenog szabgab: I am not sure whether local::lib is the way to go in the Ubuntu case.
09:10 zenog szabgab: The sudo approach fixes the problem for all users of the system, not just the current one.
09:10 zenog szabgab: And it's simpler.
09:22 zenog szabgab: CPAN does not overwrite the installed packages, it installs to /usr/local, where the non-package stuff goes.
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10:08 szabgab zenog: I doubt there are more than one users in the general case, using local::lib will allow you to wipe it out any time it disturbs you and when you upgrade packages via CPAN it ensures that it won't interfere with any code relying on the system provided packages
10:08 szabgab what drawback do you see to using local::lib or other local intsallation method?
10:12 El_Che lo
10:13 zenog szabgab: It is more complicated. People need to read the description on the CPAN page and set it up, instead of just entering two commands.
10:14 zenog szabgab: If there is a *really easy* description on how to set up local::lib somewhere, I'd be glad.
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10:16 zenog hi Jad Di-ima Maltus
10:16 Maltus Hi zenog
10:16 Jad Hi zenog
10:16 Jad I'm trying to install padre on windows 7 64
10:17 Jad but it is not working
10:17 Di-ima Hi
10:18 Maltus Jad, how did you install it ? what version of perl ? did you cpan Padre or install the strawberry+padre .msi on the padre.perlide.org website ?
10:18 Jad I'm trying through Cpan
10:19 Jad i have strawberry 5.10
10:19 Maltus so cmd.exe => cpan Padre ?
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10:19 Maltus what's it saying ?
10:19 Jad dmake.exe:  Error code 255, while making 'test_dynamic'
10:20 Jad make test no
10:20 Jad and that goes for many packages
10:22 Maltus did it go through all the dependencies without problems ?
10:22 Maltus or is the error caused by a dependency higher in the tree
10:23 Jad Yes
10:23 El_Che (wasn't there a combined strawberry + padre package?)
10:23 El_Che I have windows 7 here, I can try installing here
10:23 Maltus ( yes, there is, but you might not want to reinstall everything if you already have a working strawberry you're using)
10:24 Maltus also, there is no strawberry + padre package for win7
10:24 El_Che no, this is a pretty clean windows machine at work (my padre install is on linux)
10:24 Jad the thing is i've installed .msi on the padre.perlide.org website
10:24 Maltus I mean win7 64
10:24 Jad then i tried to update to 0.72
10:24 Maltus of course there is a package for win7 32
10:26 El_Che ok, downloading the 64-bit version
10:26 Maltus Jad, could you paste the whole cpan install log to http://scsys.co.uk:8001/ ?
10:27 Maltus make sure to set the properties => buffer for your cmd.exe window so you can get everything
10:30 Jad this is going to take some time
10:33 El_Che can I change the cpab urllist from strawberry to a regular (read intern) cpan mirror?
10:33 El_Che I guess yes, but better ask
10:35 shadowpaste "Jad" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "Test Summary Report ----------" (42 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/55896
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13:53 zenog hi daxim erez jnap asarch
13:54 daxim do you need me specifically?
13:54 jnap good (your respective timezone)
13:55 asarch Hi! zenog
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14:21 zenog daxim: no no, just wanted to say hello. If I need something specifically, I say so ;-)
14:23 zenog daxim: Oh, but I have something for you: There are several open tickets for Padre: http://padre.perlide.org/trac/​report/1?asc=0&sort=ticket
14:23 zenog daxim: :-P
14:23 daxim sure, I can open some more
14:23 daxim I can't believe how sucky this editor is
14:24 Sewi Seems you like sucky things as you're always here :)
14:26 zenog daxim: Then add more ;-)
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14:39 zenog hi danlucraft
14:40 danlucraft zenog: hi
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14:56 Maltus trolls ? in my #padre ?
14:58 daxim it's more likely than you think
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