Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2010-11-22

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05:27 zenon hello
05:29 zenon i have a problem with my space bar, she is not functional in editor
05:29 zenon nb: y a des fr ici ?
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07:21 szabgab zenon: what os? how did you install Padre?
07:21 szabgab and which version of Padre?
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07:51 azawawi good morning
07:57 zenon szabgab: linux arch, version 0.74-1, install by aur
07:58 zenon and, wm awesome
07:58 zenon on 64 bit system
08:12 azawawi szabgab: ping
08:15 szabgab azawawi: pong
08:15 azawawi szabgab: re http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1051
08:16 azawawi szabgab: it is pretty serious...
08:16 szabgab azawawi: I have no idea why zenon cannot use space-bar
08:16 azawawi szabgab: -Mdiagnostics is bad... :)
08:16 azawawi szabgab: maybe it is already assigned to the key bindings to do something else?
08:17 azawawi zenon: did you play with the key bindings or is this a first time Padre?
08:18 azawawi szabgab: sometimes asking @ #perl is pretty much pointless...
08:18 szabgab azawawi: I am not sure what is serious there?
08:18 azawawi szabgab: missed error messages...
08:18 azawawi szabgab: in the syntax checker
08:18 szabgab I have stopped using #perl  a long time ago
08:18 azawawi szabgab: when the filename is long
08:18 azawawi szabgab: now it happens on all platforms.... try it
08:19 szabgab on the command line I get the error message as expected
08:19 szabgab on perl v5.8.8
08:19 Hyppolit #1051: Syntax checker does not return the correct error message (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1051#comment:3 ]
08:20 azawawi now move the script further in a padre\Padre\lib\Padre\Wx\Dialog\Preferences\ directory
08:20 azawawi and try it again...
08:20 szabgab azawawi: but I am not sure I understand, is this a perl error or a padre issue?
08:22 szabgab I moved it and I still get the same error message
08:22 azawawi szabgab: perl -Mdiagnostics behavior and the way we expect the error message to be formatted on the same line in the Syntax checker...
08:23 azawawi szabgab: on linux, it wont happen a lot since TMPDIR is short => /tmp/something
08:23 azawawi szabgab: but on win32 it will happen for sure, since tmp directory is stored inside the user's home directory
08:23 azawawi szabgab: and that path is long by default
08:24 szabgab oh so the problem is that we expect the file name to be on a single line while it break for long path ?
08:24 azawawi yup
08:24 azawawi 100%
08:24 azawawi but that only happens for one error message
08:25 azawawi if you have two, no problem
08:25 szabgab so it has nothing to do with that horrible sample code :)
08:25 azawawi yeah but that horrible source code is the one that uncovered it :)
08:25 azawawi i was mixing perls (5 & 6) ... i know
08:26 szabgab oh, I see
08:26 azawawi but the thing is i was fixing/testing a lexical scope bug in PPIx::EditorTools when padre stopped complaining about it
08:26 szabgab :)
08:26 azawawi and hence i started the quest to fix it... :)
08:27 azawawi at least someone was good enough to answer back at #perl...
08:27 azawawi s/good/nice/
08:27 azawawi it aint a bug lol
08:28 azawawi wrapping is normal for -Mdiagnostics... even though $PRETTY is zero!!
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08:28 szabgab there should be an error parser in the standard perl distribution
08:28 azawawi diagnostics should print out perl messages as they are with the explanation afterwards..
08:28 azawawi szabgab: you mean splain?
08:29 szabgab yeah, splain does that, right
08:29 szabgab but it should have two parts, the parser and the printer
08:29 szabgab and I need to work a bit now
08:30 azawawi btw, splain handles only the first message...
08:30 azawawi and the funny thing is we dont even use error->{diag}  :)
08:43 Hyppolit svn: r13195 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13195
08:43 Hyppolit Updated Changes and Fixed #1051: 'Syntax checker does not return the correct error message' by disabling unused diagnostics. Diagnostics support will be enhanced in the future by (1) parsing perldiag.pod information and adding it to Perl help. When the user presses F2 (Help Search) and an error message is selected, a detailed explanation will be shown or (2) we can add a right-click 'Explain' option or (3) switch synt
08:43 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/
08:44 Hyppolit #1051: Syntax checker does not return the correct error message (closed defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1051#comment:4 ]
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08:47 azawawi szabgab, zenog, Alias: when you have the time, please review r13195 options and let me know how are we going to proceed.
08:47 Hyppolit Changeset #13195 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13195
08:47 azawawi thx
08:47 * azawawi &
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08:49 Hyppolit svn: r13196 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13196
08:49 Hyppolit Perl tidy of old wizard stuff i wrote
08:49 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/Wizard/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/Wizard/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/Wizard/Perl/
08:50 Hyppolit svn: r13197 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13197
08:50 Hyppolit Updated the comment for the use of -Mdiagnostics in syntax checking
08:50 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/
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09:34 Hyppolit svn: r13198 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13198
09:34 Hyppolit -Mdiagnostics enabled 'use warnings' and thus you got false warnings for perfectly working old-style Perl code. The funny thing is that we tested that false assumption :)
09:34 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/t/
09:37 Hyppolit svn: r13199 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13199
09:37 Hyppolit Updated Changes
09:37 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
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09:57 Hyppolit svn: r13200 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13200
09:57 Hyppolit Since we're not using -Mdiagnostics, we cannot distinguish between errors and warnings...
09:57 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/
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12:41 Hyppolit svn: r13201 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13201
12:41 Hyppolit Obvious typo in syntax checker... Errors are colored as warnings!
12:41 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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12:47 Hyppolit svn: r13202 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13202
12:47 Hyppolit Updated Changes and removed custom parsing of Perl's standard error and replaced it with Parse::ErrorString::Perl to get diagnostic information. That's why we refactored it in a module in the first place :) Next 'Error List' view is going to be declared dead since it is redundant.
12:47 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/
12:55 zenon azawawi: this is a first time parde ... nb: sorry for the long time reponse ;)
12:56 azawawi zenon: np
12:56 azawawi zenon: space is not working until now?
12:56 zenon azawawi: the padre install is fresh
12:56 azawawi zenon: how did you install padre?
12:56 azawawi zenon: archlinux right?
12:56 zenon with yaourt -S perl-padre on arch
12:57 zenon and aur depot
12:57 azawawi can you check the version please?
12:57 zenon yes
12:57 azawawi from Help/About
12:57 zenon Perl Application Development and Refactoring Environment 0.74
12:57 zenon by padre --version
12:57 azawawi you can type everything but space?
12:58 zenon yes, only space is down
12:59 zenon hum
12:59 zenon Perl  5.12.1  Wx  0.98  wxWidgets 2.8.11 Wx::Perl::ProcessStream  0.28  PPI  1.213
12:59 zenon for info
13:01 azawawi press both ctrl/alt... maybe a hung modifier key... this happened to me once on a faulty keyboard...
13:02 azawawi did it work?
13:02 azawawi if that didnt work...
13:02 azawawi padre --reset
13:03 azawawi to remove all settings and start fresh with the defaults
13:03 azawawi and also please check that 'space' works with other editors...
13:05 zenon i delete the .padre repertory, idem, i test with --reset
13:06 zenon idem with --reset, not space functional
13:06 azawawi how about removing that package...?
13:06 zenon and, yes, the 'sapce' is ok on awesome, xterm, gedit,etc...
13:07 azawawi and then installing it from cpan
13:07 zenon hum, ok
13:07 zenon i test
13:07 azawawi cpan App::cpanminus
13:07 azawawi and then cpanm Padre
13:07 zenon i use cpanm ;)
13:08 zenon cpanm working ...
13:08 azawawi perfect
13:08 azawawi please remove to uninstall package beforehand...
13:09 azawawi s/package/that package/
13:09 azawawi s/remove/remember/ :)
13:09 zenon yes of curse
13:09 azawawi im sleepy... :)
13:09 zenon ;)
13:09 zenon aie :/ Building and testing Padre-0.74 ... FAIL
13:09 zenon i see the log
13:10 azawawi cool
13:10 zenon i pastebin the log
13:10 azawawi where is the link for that aur package?
13:11 zenon sorry ? the link .
13:11 zenon ?
13:12 azawawi interesting notes: http://aur.archlinux.org/packa​ges.php?ID=31057&detail=0
13:12 zenon the pastebin for infos : http://pastebin.com/7b1iUsH6
13:12 zenon ok, i read this notes
13:13 zenon hum, yes, i have this problem, but it resolving by a reboot ... :D
13:13 zenon the problem may be
13:13 zenon note; excuse me for my english .. I am french
13:13 zenon ;)
13:14 azawawi pas de problème :)
13:14 zenon ah cool
13:14 azawawi via google translate... :)
13:15 zenon i don't use google translate, because i want to ameliorer my english ;)
13:16 azawawi cool
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13:25 Hyppolit svn: r13203 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13203
13:25 Hyppolit Initial termination of the "Error List" window. Nobody actually knows why it lived thus far in our code base while providing absolutely nothing new but diagnostics to syntax checking window. It was smartly switched off by Alias ever since Task 2.0 landed and nobody seemed to complain about it :)
13:25 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
13:26 Hyppolit svn: r13204 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13204
13:26 Hyppolit Updated Changes
13:26 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
13:27 azawawi zenon: anything?
13:28 azawawi zenon: did it work?
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14:33 Mars hello
14:35 Mars when i upgrade my padre to 0.74 by ActivePerl,
14:36 Mars there is error message,like this;
14:37 Mars Can't find any package that provides File::Glob::Windows for Padre
14:38 Mars can somebody help me.i am newer of using Padre.
14:38 Mars :P
14:39 daxim F::G::W is available from the trouchelle repo
14:39 daxim http://trouchelle.com/perl/pp​mrepview.pl?id=50257&v=12
14:39 daxim ppd is http://trouchelle.com/ppm/File-Glob-Windows.ppd
14:41 Mars thank you . daxim..
14:42 Mars do i need install it with Command Shel
14:43 daxim http://www.activestate.com/blog/2010/1​0/how-install-cpan-modules-activeperl
14:47 Mars ok, i try it.:D thank you. i am very excited, when i find the padre IDE.
14:49 Mars by the way , the padre can not work , when the perl script file with Japanese
14:50 daxim you must explain better.  what means "can not work"?  is there an error message?  perhaps make a screenshot.
14:54 Mars no error message.there is nothing in the file.Actually,the file inculde lots of source code。 i make the screenshot。
15:05 daxim works for me   http://www6.pic-upload.de/​22.11.10/4e9k36avmoyk.png
15:07 Mars sorry , i can reproduction it now. :( i think it happen in my office pc.it is window xp Japanese system. i can send the email for it. sorry
15:09 daxim perhaps you can help me with my question now:  http://stackoverflow.com/q/3896935
15:10 Mars i try it
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15:23 Mars are you want to sort the content of Japanese
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18:12 Hyppolit svn: r13205 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13205
18:12 Hyppolit In "Open Resource" and "Quick Menu Access" UP arrow shifts focus to the results list when the focus is on the filter field
18:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
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18:46 Hyppolit svn: r13206 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13206
18:46 Hyppolit Moved from the simple 0..1 age of error 'severity' to the actual way Perl classifies errors as in perldiag. The syntax task passes upon completion a reference to an array of Parse::ErrorString::Perl::ErrorItem objects.
18:46 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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18:48 Hyppolit svn: r13207 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13207
18:48 Hyppolit Updated Changes
18:48 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
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18:58 Hyppolit svn: r13208 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13208
18:58 Hyppolit Perl tidy previous syntax checker changes
18:58 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
18:59 Hyppolit svn: r13209 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13209
18:59 Hyppolit Updated comment
18:59 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/
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19:08 Hyppolit svn: r13210 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13210
19:08 Hyppolit More refactoring to gain a bit more speed when updating the syntax checker GUI
19:08 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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19:41 Hyppolit svn: r13211 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13211
19:41 Hyppolit Experimental Syntax checker tree control. Errors messages are on the top child nodes and diagnostics as a child nodes to them. I am just testing out this new view to replace the error list view. And I am open to suggestions of course :)
19:41 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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20:14 Hyppolit svn: r13212 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13212
20:14 Hyppolit "Syntax Check" window is now a tree instead of a list. First-level nodes represent the error/warning messages and the second-level nodes are the perldiag diagnostics for them (if available). Select next problem, copy selected/All are now disabled until properly implemented.
20:14 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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20:34 Hyppolit svn: r13213 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13213
20:34 Hyppolit Updated syntax checker icons
20:34 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/icons/padre/16x16/status/
20:47 Hyppolit svn: r13214 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13214
20:47 Hyppolit Added sorting back to error messages
20:47 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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21:48 jstake can anyone tell me how to use bioperl with padre?
21:49 jstake padre and strawberry perl
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