Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2011-01-29

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01:03 waxhead hahaha
01:03 waxhead well.. guess it's not so funny...
01:03 waxhead I'm trying to setup the shade sail.. so far no injuries...
01:04 waxhead but that's likely to change I'm sure
02:06 waxhead Alias, ping
02:07 waxhead Alias, running the padre release on vista here crashes...
02:07 waxhead padre dies immediately...
02:07 waxhead I'll have lunch and see if I can get it to throw the error...
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07:14 _waxhead Alias, ping!!!!
07:15 _waxhead Alias, I can't get padre to start without crashing on vista... what magic invocation do I need to use to get it to show output?
07:16 waxhead it's certainly a windows problem.. ubuntu works fine...
07:26 _waxhead hmm.. perl itself is dieing here
07:26 _waxhead well.. of course I gues..
07:28 _waxhead Hmmm... under perl -d padre, it gets to $ide->run and then crashes....
07:33 Alias WORKSFORME
07:33 Alias try padre --reset
07:34 _waxhead hmmm... looks like that did it
07:35 _waxhead what's the go there then?
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07:36 _waxhead oh.. that's interesting...
07:36 _waxhead reset worked.. but I just turned on show syntax and it crashed again..
07:36 _waxhead now I can't start padre
07:37 _waxhead resetting works fine...
07:37 _waxhead then turn syntax back on it if crashes...
07:38 _waxhead oooo... turning on show outline was OK, turning on Directory tree killed it again
07:40 _waxhead ok.. turning on function list and then todo is OK, then I opened a file.. crash..
07:40 _waxhead could this be a thread/task issue here?
07:41 Alias syntax crashes hey?
07:41 Alias I haven't tested that
07:41 Alias run with -t
07:41 _waxhead padre -t ?
07:42 Alias perl dev -t
07:42 _waxhead OK.. opening a file up with out anything turned on works...
07:42 _waxhead that's just under plain padre
07:42 _waxhead Im' updating my local copy here to test with dev
07:43 Alias If it's a task thing, I'd expect that
07:43 Alias No tasks needed if there's no tools
07:43 _waxhead yeah.... looks like something that fires a task crashes padre
07:44 Alias What is the last thing in the trace
07:56 _waxhead OK.. I'm going to paste here
07:56 _waxhead # Sat Jan 29 18:54:18 2011 Padre::TaskManager::step Padre::TaskManager=HASH(0x45d4cd4)
07:56 _waxhead # Sat Jan 29 18:54:18 2011 Padre::TaskHandle::new 'Padre::TaskHandle'
07:56 _waxhead # Sat Jan 29 18:54:18 2011 Padre::TaskHandle::prepare Padre::TaskHandle=HASH(0x30a7a74)
07:56 _waxhead # Sat Jan 29 18:54:18 2011 Padre::Wx::Directory::Browse::prepare Padre::Wx::Directory::Browse=HASH(0x636ad0c)
07:56 _waxhead # Sat Jan 29 18:54:18 2011 Padre::TaskManager::best_thread Padre::TaskManager=HASH(0x45d4cd4)
07:56 _waxhead # Sat Jan 29 18:54:18 2011 Padre::TaskManager::start_thread Padre::TaskManager=HASH(0x45d4cd4)
07:56 _waxhead Can't spawn "C:\strawberry\perl\bin\perl.exe": No error at dev line 127.
07:57 Alias But i haven't touched that
07:59 _waxhead so you don't see the crashes there?
08:00 _waxhead if you want to pip the release candidate I can give you a url
08:00 Alias ok
08:00 _waxhead my version of strawberry here is getting old too...
08:07 Alias WORKSFORME on Vista
08:20 _waxhead Alias, really/
08:20 _waxhead well, that's causing it to crash here I wonder...
08:21 _waxhead oh.. ORLite is out of date!
08:29 Alias how is that possible if you pipped it\
08:29 Alias deps shoulf have upgraded
08:33 _waxhead nope just did it then when make told me it was missing
08:33 _waxhead still crashing thoruhg
08:33 _waxhead ok.. dinner
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09:25 waxhead I guess we'll need a few other win32
09:25 waxhead users to test this tar ball...
09:26 waxhead I'm not sure what to make of my install not working..
09:26 waxhead should I remove strawberry and do a clean install?
09:26 Alias use the debugger and try to find the actual crash line
09:26 waxhead Alias, as in perl -d ?
09:26 Alias perl dev -d
09:26 waxhead ok...
09:26 Alias b Padre::TaskManager::start_thread
09:26 Alias c
09:26 Alias Then try to replicate reliably
09:27 Alias Once you can, find which of N calls to start_thread crashes, restart and move forward to the nth instance, then step a line at a time till it crashes
09:27 Alias I'm off to the hospital, back later
09:27 waxhead Alias, wow.. wrist that bad?
09:28 Alias It's hurting more
09:28 Alias So it's potentially bad
09:28 waxhead not good...
09:28 waxhead ok.. see ya
09:28 Alias Don't want to sleep on it wrong, if it's fractured or something
09:28 waxhead hopefully your waiting in emergency isn't as bad as it is here...
09:28 Alias Do private hospitals have emergencies?
09:28 waxhead you can wait anything up to 12 hours...
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09:29 Alias I got pretty damned good cover when I signed up for derby
09:29 waxhead Alias, don't think so
09:29 Alias Kind of essential
09:29 Alias I'm heading now before the drunks start arriving
09:29 waxhead good idea
09:29 waxhead cya
09:29 waxhead at least it's not winter and full of footy injuries...
09:47 _waxhead c
09:55 _waxhead Alias, if you feel up to it when you're back:
09:55 _waxhead DB<2> b Padre::TaskManager::start_thread
09:55 _waxhead Subroutine Padre::TaskManager::start_thread not found.
09:55 _waxhead DB<3> b Padre::TaskManager
09:55 _waxhead Subroutine Padre::TaskManager not found.
09:55 _waxhead DB<4> b Padre::TaskManager::start
09:55 _waxhead Subroutine Padre::TaskManager::start not found.
09:55 _waxhead DB<5> b Padre::TaskManager::new
09:55 _waxhead Subroutine Padre::TaskManager::new not found.
09:55 _waxhead DB<6> b Padre::File::new
09:55 _waxhead Subroutine Padre::File::new not found.
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11:15 _waxhead hey Sewi
11:15 Sewi hi all
11:15 Sewi Hi waxhead
11:15 _waxhead do you know who else can open the registration?
11:15 Sewi (23:44:57) Sewi: waxhead: Hi, szab, adam and I and maybe some others.
11:15 Sewi (23:45:13) Sewi: Are you sure you can't do it? Do you have a "Admin" menu option in trac?
11:16 _waxhead Sewi, yep.. I get it for the release stuff that gets done....
11:16 Sewi Go to "plugins" on the left, then tracaccountmanager and enable the registration module (last item) - that's it.
11:17 Sewi register?
11:17 Hyppolit register is http://padre.perlide.org/trac/register
11:17 _waxhead I don't see plugins
11:18 _waxhead Only the ticket system is on the left
11:18 _waxhead maybe I don't have the rights
11:18 Sewi maybe
11:19 _waxhead oh well..
11:19 Sewi I have "General", "Accounts", "Spam Filtering" and "Ticket System"
11:19 _waxhead nope.. only Ticket System for me
11:19 _waxhead did a release this morning.. holding it up as it's crashing on my vista box...
11:20 _waxhead installing strawberry again now and installing padre to see it it's ok
11:20 _waxhead Alias said it was fine on his machine...
11:20 _waxhead finally getting to Padre build..
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11:25 waxhead_ well.. that was odd
11:26 waxhead_ OK, it's working here again... just need to check a couple of things
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11:30 waxhead_ cool... padre has installed fine..
11:30 waxhead_ I'll do the release announcement and update to pause tomorrow..
11:31 waxhead_ for those who want to test it, http://peshel.dnsalias.net/pa​dre-release/Padre-0.80.tar.gz
11:31 waxhead_ installs and now runs fine on my vista box and ubuntu...
11:31 waxhead_ time for bed... manual labour is a killer!  so tired and sore.. :)
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11:33 waxhead Sewi, op me please.. :)
11:33 waxhead thanks.. makes things easier tomorrow..
11:33 waxhead night
11:34 Sewi n8
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17:07 Alias waxhead: b postpone ...
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22:49 waxhead_ sigh..
22:49 waxhead_ is now known as waxhead
22:50 waxhead Alias, how's the arm?
22:50 waxhead I'll finish off the release today.. after reinstalling strawberry Padre ran fine...
22:51 waxhead probably should have tried to work out what the cause was, but to be honest these days it's more about getting things to work sooner than later... and simpler than difficult
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