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IRC log for #padre, 2011-03-04

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00:12 Hyppolit svn: r13903 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13903
00:12 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
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04:39 Hyppolit svn: r13904 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13904
04:39 Hyppolit tidy cleaning up the changes of r13899 and r13900
04:39 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
04:41 Hyppolit #1153: title bar $version (closed defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1153#comment:8 ]
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06:13 Hyppolit #1153: title bar $version (reopened defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1153#comment:9 ]
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06:27 Hyppolit #1104: Show the name of the current subroutine in the status bar (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1104#comment:1 ]
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06:42 Hyppolit svn: r13905 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13905
06:42 Hyppolit avoid warning even on % characters that are not supported for #1153
06:42 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
06:42 Sewi gm
06:43 Hyppolit #1153: title bar $version (closed defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1153#comment:10 ]
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06:52 szabgab hi Sewi
06:57 szabgab Sewi: do you know any way that would display the anme of "the current subroution"? ala #1104
06:57 Hyppolit #1104: Show the name of the current subroutine in the status bar (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1104#comment:1 ]
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07:18 Sewi Maybe PPI?
07:19 szabgab I mean if that feature already exists somewhere in padre
07:19 Sewi There is the functions list which knows which subroutine starts at which line. It should be ok to use this lines as matching source even if we tell some POD between sub's would be in the sub before it.
07:25 Sewi szabgab: The old "filter through perl" has been in a release, but if we want to switch to more plugins, I'd remove it keeping the menu option for at least one other release. It should show a popup notice that you need to install the plugin to get this function or launch the plugin if it's installed and active. Would this be ok?
07:27 szabgab Sewi: sounds good
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07:31 szabgab oh, the documentation of STC is gone from http://www.yellowbrain.com/stc/index.html
07:32 szabgab maybe we should link to http://www.scintilla.org/ScintillaDoc.html
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08:12 Hyppolit svn: r13906 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13906
08:12 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
08:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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09:28 Hyppolit svn: r13907 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13907
09:28 Hyppolit move part of the refresh_title coed to a separate method called process_template to enable reuse in the status bar and maybe even on the command line
09:28 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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10:52 Hyppolit svn: r13908 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13908
10:52 Hyppolit add %m as one of the placeholders that can be used in the title or in the status bar
10:52 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
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11:47 Hyppolit svn: r13909 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13909
11:47 Hyppolit add %s as possible placeholder for title a status-bar
11:47 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
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12:12 Hyppolit svn: r13910 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13910
12:12 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
12:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
12:41 Hyppolit svn: r13911 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13911
12:41 Hyppolit move the two new placeholders %m and %s to a separate method called process_template_frequent as they need to be updated frequently in order to make sense. They are now updated on every keystroke so we will have to further improve their speed
12:41 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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13:08 Alias Someone actually requested a feature where the current subroutine is in the title?
13:08 Alias Wait, the title is updated on every single keystroke?
13:08 Alias That's horrendously expensive
13:09 * Alias blanches at the idea of running Padre::Util::get_matches on every keystroke
13:10 Alias Oh, it's being done for the status bar
13:13 Sewi What about a flag which is true if there is any on-keystroke-var in title/status bar  and skip all the checks if the flag is 0
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13:18 Alias Does anyone actually USE any of those variables, or want them?
13:19 Alias The get_matches call is up to half a second alone, for a big file
13:19 * Alias bed
13:29 szabgab Alias: I am in the middle of the change
13:31 szabgab first I thought to put allow those in both the title and the status bar but then I noticed neither of those are actually updated frequently
13:40 Hyppolit svn: r13912 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13912
13:40 Hyppolit Add configuration option main_statusbar_template to allow the user to fine tune the status bar #1104
13:40 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ trunk/Padre/t/
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14:23 Hyppolit svn: r13913 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13913
14:23 Hyppolit typo
14:23 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
14:27 Hyppolit #1104: Show the name of the current subroutine in the status bar (closed enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1104#comment:2 ]
14:32 Hyppolit #1138: Warnings at Padre startup; Padre server not working (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1138#comment:5 ]
14:38 Hyppolit #1154: Warnings from the Advanced Preference Editor (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1154 ]
14:41 Hyppolit #836: Nothing after splash screen on OpenSolaris (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/836#comment:3 ]
14:46 szabgab Alias: could you please take a look at #312 , is that still relevant?
14:46 Hyppolit #312: Max one outline job per document at a time (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/312#comment:2 ]
14:47 Hyppolit #646: the prereq Test::NoWarnings hides warnings in Makefile.PL (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/646#comment:6 ]
14:48 szabgab anyone around for some bug triage?
14:53 szabgab Alias: could you please also check #2 is there anything else needed?
14:53 Hyppolit #2: Improve search (assigned enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/2#comment:3 ]
14:56 Hyppolit #10: Project Management (closed enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/10#comment:4 ]
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15:12 Hyppolit #1138: Warnings at Padre startup; Padre server not working (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1138#comment:6 ]
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15:32 zenog hi all
15:32 zenog I have a small patch that centers the search term in the editor window. Any reservations about this or shall I just commit?
15:34 Hyppolit #849: file type recognition (closed enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/849#comment:1 ]
15:35 Hyppolit svn: r13914 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13914
15:35 Hyppolit center search term on hit to see the context of the hit
15:35 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
15:35 szabgab zenog: that was a quick decision I see
15:35 zenog A tiny usability improvement when it comes to search ...
15:36 zenog szabgab: Well yes, I thought it is still trunk, and it is an easy modification - but also easy to revert.
15:36 szabgab now I wonder how will people know what is the desired behavior
15:37 szabgab you know my concern is that someone will think this is a bad idea, or just won't understand it and revert the change
15:37 zenog szabgab: Before that, the hit was usually displayed on the lower border of the screen - one could not see half of the context...
15:37 szabgab but I don't have a solution on how to avoide that
15:37 zenog szabgab: Let's just wait and see. I think it is an improvement.
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15:38 szabgab zenog: could you add a test case around this?
15:39 zenog szabgab: It's a GUI/usability thing. or do you mean a manual test?
15:39 szabgab this probably needs to be a bigger test case around searching but I think if you described what people should expect then we could iron this out better
15:39 zenog Manual test: Will do!
15:39 szabgab manual test
15:39 zenog OK
15:39 szabgab we should do MTDD
15:40 szabgab :)
15:42 szabgab zenog: and apparently you don't run tidy before your commits
15:43 zenog szabgab: Ah, there are no SVN hooks for that yet?
15:43 zenog szabgab: Will do that again, promised ...
15:44 szabgab we have svn hook to check if you ran tidy
15:44 szabgab that's what was my conclusion from the discussion
15:46 szabgab zenog: that way the change will really be sen as yours and not as the person who runs the tidy
15:46 szabgab so maybe you want to run it now on the file you just committed
15:47 Hyppolit svn: r13915 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13915
15:47 Hyppolit tidy Padre::Search
15:47 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
15:50 zenog There we go ...
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16:00 Hyppolit #629: open ticktes for TODO items (and fix them) (closed enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/629#comment:3 ]
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16:12 Hyppolit svn: r13916 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13916
16:12 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
16:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
16:18 user_9176 Hi there I am  trying to get started with padre on Windows and am trying to use CPAN integration. When I launch Install CPAN Module Padre exits with no message, and when I try to open the CPAN configuration file Padre complains about not being able to find it.
16:18 user_9176 I am assuming the first issue is a by product of the second. Can anyone tell me where padre looks for my CPAN configuration??
16:19 zenog hi user_9176
16:19 user_9176 Hi there
16:19 zenog user_9176: This is not your fault, it is broken in Padre and needs fixing.
16:19 user_9176 Ah OK thanks, I'll just use the command line for now then.
16:20 zenog user_9176: If you want to install a CPAN module, you should use the command-line client.
16:20 zenog user_9176: Sorry for the inconvenience.
16:20 zenog user_9176: What kind of Perl do you use on Windows?
16:20 user_9176 No problem, I realise this is a community effort
16:20 zenog http://zenoga.tumblr.com/post/363854​0138/padre-improved-search-usability
16:20 user_9176 I downloaded the Strawberry distribution
16:21 zenog http://zenoga.tumblr.com/post/3638343729/adde​ndum-to-fixing-an-easy-padre-bug-step-by-step
16:21 zenog user_9176: OK, there CPAN should work from the command line.
16:22 user_9176 OK thanks for the tips
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16:25 zenog user_9176: For the CPAN client, there should be plenty of information on the web.
16:25 zenog user_9176: If you have questions, however, do not hesitate to ask. People are usually quite helpful around here.
16:26 user_9176 Yes I have used CPAN before so that is not a problem, just trying to use it from the GUI was the only issue. Thanks again
16:30 zenog okay, good.
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16:45 zenog hm. "Find All" does not work for me ...
16:46 zenog szabgab: added a 22-step checklist to http://padre.perlide.org/tr​ac/wiki/PreReleaseChecklist
16:47 zenog make that 23
16:50 Hyppolit svn: r13917 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13917
16:50 Hyppolit fix blog post title
16:50 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/
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16:52 zenog hi jnap
16:53 jnap hey
16:56 Hyppolit svn: r13918 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13918
16:56 Hyppolit add zenog to blog roll
16:56 Hyppolit trunk/blogs.padre.perlide.org/data/
16:57 zenog szabgab: I added myself to the blog roll. The README says I should ask you to upload the new files to the server.
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17:01 zenog hi meorero
17:02 meorero Hi
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17:08 Hyppolit svn: r13919 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13919
17:08 Hyppolit Padre::Wx::Main: change one message string for correct lower case
17:08 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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17:51 zenog hi pece, hi bowtie
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19:31 bowtie All: with referance to Ticket #1153
19:31 Hyppolit #1153: title bar $version (closed defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1153#comment:10 ]
19:31 bowtie having just svn r13919, and got it working, great.
19:31 bowtie so whats the differance to v0.82 my config?
19:31 bowtie you were correct the crash was my configuration, to be precise the use of PPI Experimental, caused by overloading the keyboard buffer I think. as it could be replacted at 18 key stroks then die.
19:31 bowtie sorry for the wild goose chase, it was just a naff warning after all.
19:31 Hyppolit Changeset #13919 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13919
19:31 bowtie kevin
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19:38 zenog bowtie: No problem, we fixed a bug yesterday that was there ...
19:38 zenog bowtie: The feature was broken, now it is fixed ;-)
19:39 zenog bowtie: But the title also works for you now?
20:12 Hyppolit svn: r13920 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13920
20:12 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
20:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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21:14 asarch Wonderful! I have Padre on my Arch Linux for x86 \o/
21:14 asarch Which one Task::Padre::Plugins or Task::Padre::Plugins::Deps?
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22:09 Hyppolit svn: r13921 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13921
22:09 Hyppolit find the cpanm also if it is "only" in the PATH. e.g. when using local::lib
22:09 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
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22:36 El_Che__ ping El_Che
22:36 El_Che__ oops
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22:39 El_Che two screen/irssi's running
22:39 El_Che not too smart :)
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