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Hyppolit |
svn: r13941 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13941 |
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Hyppolit |
Update the messages.pot file |
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trunk/Padre/share/locale/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r13942 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13942 |
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Hyppolit |
tidy tidy |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre-Plugin-PerlTidy/lib/Padre/Plugin/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r13943 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13943 |
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Hyppolit |
add more entries to the tidy manager dialog |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre-Plugin-PerlTidy/lib/Padre/Plugin/PerlTidy/ |
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azawawi |
good morning |
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* azawawi |
starts trying to compile wxwidgets stc |
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azawawi |
hi! |
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Sewi |
hi azawawi |
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Sewi |
Should our Scintilla version go into the release? |
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azawawi |
Sewi: this release? most probably not |
| 07:41 |
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Sewi |
any relaase. We might upgrade the locally installed version, don't we? |
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azawawi |
Sewi: Yeah that's my goal |
| 07:41 |
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azawawi |
Sewi: i took a look at wxWidgets stc contrib package in 2.8.11 |
| 07:41 |
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azawawi |
Sewi: and compared it with 2.9.1 version |
| 07:42 |
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Sewi |
This may cause problems with customizes versions... |
| 07:42 |
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Sewi |
I just wanted to mention it :-) |
| 07:42 |
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azawawi |
Sewi: so far just scintilla folder upgrade + other files for xcode and others |
| 07:42 |
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azawawi |
customized version? |
| 07:44 |
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Sewi |
Anybody who upgraded/installed the module manually. |
| 07:45 |
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azawawi |
Sewi: could you give me an example/scenario? |
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azawawi |
Sewi: what im thinking of after reading the stc code so far |
| 07:48 |
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azawawi |
Sewi: get that 2.8.11 contrib/stc package. Compile it against an upgraded scintilla and patch the wx/stc shared library after backing it up |
| 07:49 |
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szabgab |
azawawi: does that mean we will require the usages of wx exactly at version 2.8.11 ? |
| 07:49 |
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szabgab |
or that we will say "if you use 2.8.11 here is a patch if you want" |
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azawawi |
szabgab: yeah initially |
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waxhead |
evening |
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waxhead |
szabgab, when do you want to roll out a release? |
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azawawi |
szabgab: but we will offer patches for 2.9.1 and 2.8.x ofcourse |
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* waxhead |
is cooking dinner so will be in and out |
| 07:50 |
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* azawawi |
installs perl-5.13.10 for fun |
| 07:50 |
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waxhead |
perlbrew rocks |
| 07:51 |
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azawawi |
it doesnt work on win32 :( but overall perlbrew++ :) |
| 07:51 |
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szabgab |
I have not toired it yet |
| 07:51 |
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szabgab |
how does it handle if I already use local::lib ? |
| 07:52 |
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Sewi |
azawawi: Just mentioning that we're working in a namespace outside Padre::... |
| 07:52 |
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szabgab |
setting PERL5LIB |
| 07:52 |
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azawawi |
Sewi: the Wx::Scintilla namespace... yeah i know |
| 07:52 |
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azawawi |
Sewi: it will work out eventually :) |
| 07:55 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: i was thinking yesterday of the possibilities of a new stc... a fast Perl 6 lexer :) |
| 07:56 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: i wrote an Apache conf scite lexer a long time ago... it was my first open source contribution... |
| 07:58 |
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szabgab |
azawawi: fast and perl 6, isn't that an oxymoron ? :) |
| 07:59 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: when written in c++ everything is fast compared to other interpreted stuff :) |
| 08:00 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: STD is good for compiling not highlighting... |
| 08:01 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: i wish i listened to PerlJam++ long time ago :) |
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szabgab |
azawawi: I am plannning to factor out our F2 help to an an external module called Code::Explain |
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szabgab |
an then to have Code::Explain::Perl5 and Code::Explain::Perl6 |
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szabgab |
see: |
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szabgab |
p5: $_ |
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Hyppolit |
Default variable |
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azawawi |
szabgab: sure im planning a better F1 help after the scintilla upgrade :) |
| 08:04 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: wxhtmlwindow sucks |
| 08:04 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: i think we should to re-use the browser and fire up a documentation server |
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azawawi |
szabgab: s/to re-use/use/ |
| 08:05 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: it is so limiting |
| 08:06 |
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* azawawi |
starts thinking evil plans about Padre in a browser... :) |
| 08:09 |
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szabgab |
azawawi: I think we should unite the F1 and F2 helps |
| 08:09 |
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szabgab |
they are just confusing people |
| 08:09 |
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azawawi |
...you'll be astonished by how much chrome and FireFox leaks on single-page & large JavaScript applications |
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azawawi |
... and HTML DOM leaks a lot especially those <IMG src="..."> tags on chrome |
| 08:11 |
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* azawawi |
stops thinking :) |
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azawawi |
szabgab: true we've been neglecting that a lot |
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El_Che |
lo |
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azawawi |
El_Che: hi |
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El_Che |
nice catch yesterday :) |
| 08:45 |
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azawawi |
first time i switched back so easily. My mind must be starting to think in Perl :) |
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waxhead |
p5: grep() |
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Hyppolit |
Not found |
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waxhead |
p5: grep |
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Hyppolit |
Not found |
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waxhead |
p5: $/ |
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Hyppolit |
Not found |
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* waxhead |
is impressed with the java to perl context switch |
| 08:47 |
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waxhead |
azawawi++ |
| 08:48 |
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waxhead |
blacks ops!!! |
| 08:48 |
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azawawi |
I should buy "Modern Perl".. my Perl bookshelf is obsolete |
| 08:52 |
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azawawi |
Has anyone here read "Modern Perl" ? :) |
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azawawi |
s/has/did |
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El_Che |
yeah |
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El_Che |
It was nice |
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user_2796 |
hi |
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El_Che |
hi |
| 09:19 |
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user_2796 |
is it possible to have aoutocomplete on methods in external packages? |
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Sewi1 |
hi user_2796 |
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Sewi1 |
yes and no :-) |
| 09:19 |
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Sewi1 |
Autocomplete is defined in the mime type modul |
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user_2796 |
ok.. thanks |
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Sewi |
You could add modules for mime types which don't have their own easily... |
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user_2796 |
but which module do I have to install? |
| 09:23 |
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user_2796 |
Padre::Mimetypes? |
| 09:23 |
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Sewi |
Which file type do you want to change? |
| 09:24 |
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user_2796 |
I want to have aoutocomplete on methods in objects |
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zenog_ |
hi |
| 09:26 |
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user_2796 |
Like if I do "my $mech = WWW::Mechanize->new()", is it possible to have autocomplete on the methods in $mech? |
| 09:26 |
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Sewi |
Look at Padre/Document/Perl.pm |
| 09:26 |
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Sewi |
It's possible but not easy to do. |
| 09:26 |
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zenog_ |
Sewi: I think user_2796 means Perl programming, it does not have anything to do with the MIME types. |
| 09:27 |
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Sewi |
If you want to do this, we'ld be happy if you'ld submit this patch for the Padre core. |
| 09:27 |
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Sewi |
zenog: Padre treats document types as mime types internally. |
| 09:28 |
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zenog_ |
So in this case, the "autocomplete" method would need to be extended. |
| 09:28 |
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Sewi |
zenog: You're right, it's more Document types than MIME types, but MIME types is a better description for talking about it :) |
| 09:29 |
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zenog_ |
Sewi: agreed |
| 09:29 |
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zenog_ |
Padre::Document::Perl::autocomplete is a bit of a monster, but still nicely structured into paragraphs ... |
| 09:30 |
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zenog_ |
user_2796: Have a look at it and think about where your code would fit in (if you have the time). |
| 09:31 |
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Sewi |
user_2796: It's getting really bad if you have some $self->{www} = WWW::Mechanize->new; and use $self->{www} in another method or even use $obj->{www} in another file :-) |
| 09:31 |
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zenog_ |
user_2796: You can find code to extract functions from code in Padre::Document::Perl::FunctionList |
| 09:32 |
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zenog_ |
Sewi, user_2796: To make it 100% is hard, but one could trade precision vs. recall a bit. |
| 09:32 |
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zenog_ |
e.g. offer all functions from all imported packages for each object. |
| 09:33 |
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zenog_ |
That is of course too much, but it may still help ... |
| 09:33 |
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zenog_ |
Of course it would be nice to still prune it a bit ... |
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zenog_ |
... that's the problem of having a dynamic/weak type systems ... writing tools for that is harder than with static/strong typing. |
| 09:38 |
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zenog_ |
user_2796: If you do not have the time to work on that, you could still submit a ticket/feature request about this (if it does not exist yet) |
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azawawi |
zenog_: I agree. A background PPI indexer is needed for installed modules so that when you type "WWW::Mechanize" you can easily find out what possible methods are inside that namespace. Ofcourse we need also to include subclassed methods |
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azawawi |
zenog_: it will be slow but should be executed once maybe when the help indexer does it run on installed modules |
| 09:39 |
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zenog_ |
azawawi: Is PPI capable of doing such things? |
| 09:39 |
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azawawi |
zenog_: it can find out subs easily |
| 09:40 |
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azawawi |
zenog_: and more reliably than regex |
| 09:40 |
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azawawi |
zenog_: but you need to parse @ISA and use parent stuff to find out the parent |
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zenog_ |
azawawi: Ah, but can it also find out what class a variable belongs to? This is harder, I guess. |
| 09:41 |
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azawawi |
zenog_: i saw a netbeans helpful trick once for jruby support |
| 09:41 |
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azawawi |
zenog_: basically you need to track stuff a bit for $self->{www} |
| 09:42 |
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azawawi |
zenog_: and you also have ofcourse Class::XSAccessor stuff |
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azawawi |
zenog_: the problem with parsing all that is the different syntax you need to support |
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azawawi |
zenog_: Moose, Object::Tiny, ..etc |
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zenog_ |
azawawi: Yeah, and you never can be really sure: $self->{something} may have been modified somewhere else ... |
| 09:43 |
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azawawi |
zenog_: ofcourse |
| 09:43 |
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zenog_ |
azawawi: But I guess one could cover most cases. |
| 09:43 |
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zenog_ |
... without being 100% accurate. |
| 09:43 |
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azawawi |
zenog_: you can cover most but not 100% |
| 09:44 |
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user_2796 |
Ok, it would be really neat with aoutocomplete on methods, but maybe its to complicated |
| 09:44 |
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user_2796 |
Thanks any way |
| 09:44 |
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azawawi |
zenog_: but then again cover even 10% and saving the programmer's time is always better :) |
| 09:45 |
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El_Che |
a lot of noice about OO in perl |
| 09:45 |
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El_Che |
good |
| 09:45 |
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zenog_ |
azawawi: correct. |
| 09:45 |
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El_Che |
I contributed to the noise on my blog :) |
| 09:45 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: chromatic++ |
| 09:46 |
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El_Che |
idd |
| 09:46 |
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zenog_ |
El_Che: you have a new post? |
| 09:46 |
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El_Che |
Mine was before chromatic :) |
| 09:46 |
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El_Che |
http://nxadm.wordpress.com/201[…]aka-can-of-worms/ |
| 09:47 |
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user_2796 |
I'm surpriced about the whole thing with Padre, I thought Perl was dying |
| 09:47 |
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user_2796 |
But now I have second thoughts |
| 09:47 |
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El_Che |
user_2796: we are enojoying a renaissance :) |
| 09:47 |
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El_Che |
user_2796: a *lot* of new projects |
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szabgab |
user_2796: care to change your nick name ? |
| 09:47 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: and Class::MOP in core... come on... let us do 010101 instead to create a method :) |
| 09:47 |
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szabgab |
type /nick my_real_nick |
| 09:47 |
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El_Che |
user_2796: and a "modern perl" wave |
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szabgab |
way better, thanks :) |
| 09:48 |
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dud380 |
your welcome :) |
| 09:48 |
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szabgab |
so where did you hear that "perl is dying" ? |
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azawawi |
El_Che: Dynamic languages should be by default higher level than static to make my life as a programmer easier :) |
| 09:49 |
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dud380 |
I got that impression, most programmers I know dont like/use Perl |
| 09:49 |
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zenog_ |
dud380: If you are interested in writing modern Perl (the non-dying stuff), have a look at the book "Modern Perl" by chromatic: http://www.onyxneon.com/books/[…]n_perl/index.html |
| 09:50 |
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dud380 |
Ok, I'll have a look at it |
| 09:50 |
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zenog_ |
dud380: You can also have a look at Moose, Perl Dancer, etc. |
| 09:50 |
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dud380 |
ok |
| 09:51 |
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szabgab |
dud380: so I wonder where did you find Padre? |
| 09:51 |
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dud380 |
But the real strength with Perl is CPAN I think |
| 09:51 |
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El_Che |
azawawi: we are *extremely* good at making things easy for the programmer |
| 09:51 |
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dud380 |
There's nothing like that in other languages |
| 09:51 |
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El_Che |
compare regex on perl and java |
| 09:52 |
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El_Che |
it's weird we need boilerplate for oo |
| 09:52 |
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dud380 |
Java is crap, especially now in the hands of Oracle |
| 09:52 |
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szabgab |
I'd like to have a perl() function in perl |
| 09:52 |
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szabgab |
in perl 5 I mean |
| 09:52 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r13944 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13944 |
| 09:52 |
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Hyppolit |
more tooltips for 'Open Resource', tidied comments |
| 09:52 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ |
| 09:53 |
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szabgab |
zenog_: I think these tooltip strings could/should be integrated with the Actions |
| 09:53 |
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zenog_ |
szabgab: You mean like in Perl 6? Actually, I do not really like the name of that function/method ... |
| 09:53 |
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El_Che |
dud380: I may be unorthodox in this, but I don't think java is crap |
| 09:53 |
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szabgab |
and then we could / should generate html files and help out of those strings |
| 09:53 |
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El_Che |
dud380: verbose, yes. |
| 09:53 |
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zenog_ |
szabgab: In which way? The action descriptions? It is a bit hard to do, because tooltips are about very specific GUI elements. |
| 09:53 |
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szabgab |
zenog_: yes that kind of perl() |
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dud380 |
El_Che: Ok |
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El_Che |
dud380: e.g., I find writing threaded programs in java pretty straightforward |
| 09:55 |
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El_Che |
dud380: but it does not have CPAN :) |
| 09:55 |
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szabgab |
zenog_: yeah, I don't exactly know how to do it but I am quites ure we would like to 1) reuse these strings in the GUI 2) search them somehow 3) provide them in external documentation |
| 09:55 |
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szabgab |
I just had to shrink my screen from 22" to 17" |
| 09:56 |
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szabgab |
as the 22" went blank |
| 09:56 |
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zenog_ |
szabgab: If I would not know what it does, I would think that "perl()" is something like "eval". |
| 09:56 |
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zenog_ |
szabgab: In Python, they have "repr", which does a similar thing. |
| 09:56 |
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szabgab |
zenog_: I could live it being called Dumper |
| 09:56 |
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dud380 |
El_Che: Java is a good idea, but it's to slow ;) |
| 09:57 |
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zenog_ |
dud380: Java is much much faster than Perl, Python, Ruby, etc. for the things that I do mostly ... |
| 09:57 |
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szabgab |
oh and I managed to kill the Linux smoke server yesterday |
| 09:57 |
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szabgab |
but now I restared it |
| 09:58 |
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szabgab |
as I understand Java itself is fast, the "frameworks" that everyone is using are bloated and slow |
| 09:58 |
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Sewi |
zenog: Java could be slower. (Some|Many) people using Java don't seem to know how to use it correctly - and many Java apps are really slow. |
| 09:59 |
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szabgab |
and now I need to try to replace my router before that dies on me too |
| 09:59 |
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Hyppolit |
#1138: Padre server not working (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]et/1138#comment:7 ] |
| 09:59 |
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zenog_ |
Alias: Are you aware of 1138? If you have any hint about what is going wrong there, or where I could start to fix this, I'd give it a try ... |
| 10:07 |
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zenog_ |
I did not know that one could select several resources at once, I only saw it when reading the source code. |
| 10:08 |
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zenog_ |
Because of that, I added the tooltips. |
| 10:08 |
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zenog_ |
One could also think about renaming the feature to "Open Resources". That would make it clearer to the user. |
| 10:08 |
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zenog_ |
Any thoughts on that? |
| 10:19 |
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El_Che |
azawawi: anyway, put a comment on those blogs. Noise is good |
| 10:19 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: sure |
| 10:20 |
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szabgab |
zenog_: tooltips explainig things are good |
| 10:20 |
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szabgab |
I'll take a look how we might be able to reuse them |
| 10:22 |
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El_Che |
azawawi: if perl 5 fixes OO (Moose), Exception handling (Try::Tiny) and LWP threading (??), there is no need to wait the finalizing of perl 6 :) |
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azawawi |
El_Che: imho, we're stuck in a philosophical problem... batteries-included vs... and a very slow deprecation process like in Java |
| 10:24 |
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El_Che |
idd |
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azawawi |
El_Che: p5p has a lot of people that still believe a browser is not needed at all... |
| 10:24 |
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El_Che |
but 2011 is not 1996 |
| 10:25 |
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El_Che |
OO is not what I consider batteries |
| 10:25 |
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El_Che |
look like a pretty core language feature |
| 10:25 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: yeah but they consider it that... |
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El_Che |
yeah, I know :( |
| 10:26 |
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El_Che |
I read the perldoc/web spinoff discussion |
| 10:26 |
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zenog_ |
szabgab: What do you think about renaming the dialog to the plural form? |
| 10:26 |
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zenog_ |
azawawi: Same question? |
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El_Che |
I am a hardcore unix guy, but I use the perldoc website a *lot* |
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zenog_ |
El_Che: also ... |
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szabgab |
zenog_: neither of us are English speakers |
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zenog_ |
El_Che: me too, I am so much used to a web browser that I do not always want to use the command line. |
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szabgab: Yes, but you are also humans and have expectations about features ;-) |
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El_Che |
mind you, the man pages must stay, once in a while they are needed |
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El_Che |
but when developing on a workstation I want linked docs |
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zenog_ |
El_Che: yeah, if there is not internet connection ... |
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azawawi |
Everything that saves programmers time is worth being in core |
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Sewi |
El_Che: Sorry, but I prefer the speed of "man perlfunc" and others :) |
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zenog_ |
El_Che: otoh, there is no reason why manpages should not be linked ... |
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El_Che |
Sewi: there is a difference between prefer and "the web is stupid" |
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Sewi |
sure :-) |
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azawawi |
Sewi: Every age has its tools. Maybe in 1996 'man' was great but now the browser usability is way too much to resist :) |
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El_Che |
it's a pretty egocentric view by some people on p5p |
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El_Che |
I don't mine running cpanm to install Moose |
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El_Che |
but what will a newbie do? |
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El_Che |
will he know that there is something more than bless? |
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El_Che |
where will he look? perldoc? |
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azawawi |
El_Che: nothing, simply switch to another more newbie friendly language :) |
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El_Che |
I learnt java out of frustration with bless |
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azawawi |
El_Che: i hate bless... |
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El_Che |
I tried PBP inside-out hashes for a while, but I never felt that I grasped, even after all that typing |
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El_Che |
I hear that even the author abandoned that |
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zenog_ |
hey, if there are Perl/PostgreSQL developers in the UK hanging out here, there is an open position: http://retout.co.uk/blog/2011/[…]oftware_architect |
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azawawi |
zenog_: thanks |
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szabgab |
back from screen hunting |
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szabgab |
I now have a 24" screen |
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szabgab |
size matters |
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szabgab |
now I think I can stop using applications in full screen mode |
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szabgab |
the question, can I tab through sets of applications ? |
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Hyppolit |
#1138: Padre single instance server not working (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]et/1138#comment:8 ] |
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fenderson |
hi :) |
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fenderson |
szabgab: finally i fixed the problem |
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fenderson |
it was the wireless card |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r13945 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13945 |
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Hyppolit |
Fix #1078: Open Resource should find things like 'Wx:.Dialog' (ZENOG) |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ |
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zenog_ |
this is an initial fix for 1078. I will make the code more elegant later this afternoon, do not worry ;-) |
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zenog_ |
anyway, feedback and testing welcome! |
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Hyppolit |
#1078: Open Resource should also find things like "Wx:.Dialog" (closed enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]et/1078#comment:1 ] |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r13946 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13946 |
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Hyppolit |
Update the messages.pot file |
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trunk/Padre/share/locale/ |
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Carmageddon |
guys, I have a problem: when I hit F5 to run script, I get error: fileparse(): need valid pathname at c:/strawberry/perl/site/lib/Padre/Document/Perl.pm at line 322 |
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zenog_ |
Carmageddon: which version of Padre? |
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Carmageddon |
I havve 0.82 of course.. I am not sure what that error means |
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zenog_ |
Carmageddon: you could add a warning that prints the argument of fileparse() in line 322 of that file to see what it is ... |
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zenog_ |
lo-tech debugging ;-) |
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Carmageddon |
lol, sec |
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zenog_ |
cu later & |
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szabgab |
fenderson: see the fix of zenog and test it please |
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azawawi |
zenog++ # improving "Open Resource" dialog |
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El_Che |
the copy paste-problem of padre is annoying |
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kaare |
yep |
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kaare |
I guess it comes from Wx? |
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El_Che |
I thnik so |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r13947 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13947 |
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Hyppolit |
add hotkeys to session manager window |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ |
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Carmageddon: Can you insert 'warn "$filename\n"; before the line "my $type = "run_${arg}_args_" . File::Basename::fileparse($filename);" and tell us the output? |
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Carmageddon: Does it happen with every script? |
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Carmageddon |
one min zenog, Padre got stuck when I tried to wrte there print $filename; on the ; it got stuck :) I was afk.. one min |
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Carmageddon |
lol while I was afk Padre reached 1.8gb ram usage.. I was barely able to terminate it :D |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r13948 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13948 |
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Hyppolit |
Open Resources: further filtering improvements |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ |
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zenog |
It would be really nice if we could use the smart match operator in Padre ... |
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szabgab |
zenog: bring it up on the mailing list, let's see if there are people agains requirng 5.10 |
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szabgab |
oh I think last time when this came up we said we need easy bianry packaging and then we can do it |
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szabgab: OK, will try ;-) |
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* azawawi |
is happy with current Wx::Scintilla progress :) |
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zenog |
azawawi++ |
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azawawi |
compilation success... Now the dll / perl XS binding need to be refreshed somehow... |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r13949 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13949 |
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Hyppolit |
'Open Resource': set focus to text field on character input in the list box |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ |
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azawawi |
zenog: btw, a word of warnings... focus behaves differently on different platforms |
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azawawi |
zenog: s/warnings/warning/ |
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azawawi |
hopefully tonight or tomorrow morning i could run an upgraded scintilla on Padre seamlessly |
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zenog |
azawawi: Will send an e-mail to the mailing list so that people test that ... |
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azawawi |
zenog: cool |
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azawawi |
playing with XS makes you crazy... :) |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r13950 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13950 |
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Hyppolit |
rename 'Open Resource' to 'Open Resources' |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ |
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szabgab |
zenog: I se you voted and won the vote :) |
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heading home to finish Wx::Scintilla :) & |
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zenog |
azawawi++ azawawi++ azawawi++ |
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zenog |
szabgab: Yes, I won, but it I will revert it if people think it is the wrong way. |
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azawawi |
the thing im missing is how to deal with Alien::wxWidgets linkage to system wxwidgets libs |
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szabgab |
zenog: that's how we get to flip-flop development |
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zenog |
szabgab: hehe, better some flip-flop development than no movement at all in repository :-P |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r13951 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13951 |
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Hyppolit |
fix tab order in 'Open Resources' |
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trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ |
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zenog |
... so, enough for now, see you later guys & |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r13952 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13952 |
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Hyppolit |
Update the messages.pot file |
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user_7005 |
I am getting a message that I cannot open a file as it is over the arbitrary file size limit of Padre which is 500000. How can I open the file apart from chopping into smaller pieces until I can refactor it? |
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zenog |
user_7005: You can set the file size in the advanced preferences dialog |
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zenog |
user_7005: Tools -> Preferences -> Advanced... -> editor_file_size_limit |
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user_7005 |
Thanks that solved my problem, I had not paged down far enough. |
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user_7005: In the Advanced Preferences dialog, you can also use the filter to search for specific settings. |
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user_7005 |
When I do "Check for common beginner errors" it refers to line 26719 but my file only has 20525 lines. (it says chomp does not return the chomped value but modifies the variable given as argument |
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zenog |
user_7005: In your large file? |
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zenog |
user_7005: you can use /nick YourName in your the irc client to change your name. |
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zenog |
user_7005: This sounds like a bug. |
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zenog |
user_7005: Is the file you have something private, or can you post it somewhere so that we can see what's the problem? |
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zenog |
user_7005: Can you try to construct a smaller example where there is the same problem? |
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user_7005 |
This file: http://guiguts.svn.sourceforge[…]n=369&view=markup |
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zenog |
user_7005: If I open the Trac registration, could you add a ticket about this bug? |
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zenog |
user_7005: I get the error for line 13360 |
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zenog |
user_7005: But it is still wrong there, there is nothing wrong with chomp at that place, plus it is in line 13361. |
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user_7005 |
That is what I see |
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Hyppolit |
#534: Make beginner-error checks cool (assigned enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]ket/534#comment:2 ] |
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Hyppolit |
#648: beginner error: do not use $a and $b outside of sort (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]ket/648#comment:1 ] |
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zenog |
user_7005: Did you try the syntax check feature, and the function list feature? |
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user_7005: They may also help you, and they are (I guess) in a better shape than the "check for common beginner errors" feature. |
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zenog |
hi bowtie |
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bowtie |
zenog: hi, in the process of trying to use Padre for lets say newer staff, as eclipse is such a pig of a thing, but great once mastered |
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zenog |
bowtie: cool |
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bowtie |
I have an observation for you, I have found that deleting .padre ie config files and recreating, seams to make ide more stable, discuss |
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zenog |
bowtie: OK. Can you elaborate? Like specific behaviour? |
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zenog |
bowtie: I have not deleted my config files for quite a long time and it seems fine. But maybe I use different settings ... |
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daxim |
yes, agree, whenever I have funny crashes or display rendering, first I move the existing conf dir out of the way, that helps in most cases |
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zenog |
daxim, bowtie: Also those Gdk-Pixbuf crashes? |
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daxim |
haven't seen that |
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bowtie |
zenog: yes, if you create a project with mod::install then a perl5 file say, now you add an octothorpe # then losts of junk ie press a single key down, sonner or latter padre hangs or crashes, same with the delete key, for deleting bolcks of data with backspace. |
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bowtie |
do you have ticket # for Gdk-Pixbuf for me to read, please. |
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zenog |
#1030 |
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Hyppolit |
#1030: strange irregular crashes (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]et/1030#comment:2 ] |
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bowtie |
zenog: ok read that, is there a verbose switch ie -v or --verbose, opps just found --reset, gosh do you need some documentation, if only to enable people to use common feature names whilst on irc. |
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bowtie |
zenog: ok read that, is there a verbose switch ie -v or --verbose, opps just found --reset, gosh do you need some documentation, if only to enable people to use common feature names whilst on irc. |
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bowtie |
zenog: if you had a -v switch it would enable us mere mortals to assist you with padre generated messages. |
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bowtie |
zenog: just found this, I will give it a try... # HACK: Uncomment this to locate difficult-to-find crashes |
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bowtie |
# that are throw silent exceptions. |
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bowtie |
# local $SIG{__DIE__} = sub { print @_; die $_[0] }; |
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bowtie |
zenog: what fun this is, found some missing dependency, looked for Makefile.PL to check, but not there in 0.82 live code?? |
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bowtie |
zenog: when i use ppi => Can't call method "editor" without a package or object reference at /Padre/Document/Perl/PPILexer.pm line 16. |
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bowtie |
hope this helps |
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azawawi |
bowtie: i think that was fixed in trunk by szabgab a couple of days ago |
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bowtie |
azawawi: I will check svn and report back shortly |
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azawawi |
bowtie: thanks |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r13953 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13953 |
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Hyppolit |
Added old wxWidgets 2.8.11 contrib/stc folder mainly for safe keeping and experimenting. compile.pl compiles them but still I am having problems with the final DLL... |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Wx-Scintilla/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scintilla/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scintilla/include/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scintilla/include/wx/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scintilla/include/wx/stc/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scintilla/src/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scintilla/src/stc/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scintilla/src/stc/scintilla/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scintilla/src/stc/scintilla/include/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scintilla/src/stc/scintil |
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azawawi |
will continue on it tomorrow ... i think extutils::cbuilder is doing more harm than good |
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good night & |
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azawawi: r13952 is good for me hope this helps. |
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Hyppolit |
Changeset #13952 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/13952 |
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