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01:09 Hyppolit svn: r14115 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14115
01:09 Hyppolit Adding a ListBook test FBP file
01:09 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/fbp/
01:17 waxhead In the module start dialog, which should I use, Make::Install, ExtUtils::MakeMaker or Module::Build?
01:17 waxhead that should be Module::Install...
01:17 waxhead I have no idea what each one does or doesn't do.. :-(
01:18 waxhead or why I'd choose one over the other...
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01:35 Alias__ good point
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01:52 Alias__ Looks like my Preferences 2.0 thing is a failure
01:52 Alias__ It's not going to work because wxFormBuilder doesn't support TreeBook, only ListBook
01:52 Alias__ And I can't make ListBook not suck
01:52 Alias__ Not easily anyway
01:53 Alias__ So I'm going to change directions and go with a slightly more custom approach that should still be usable from a FromBuilder design perspective
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02:57 waxhead man... gui coding is so freaking frustrating from a (re)start point of view... it just takes way too long to get started doing hte simple stuff...
02:57 waxhead sigh.
02:57 waxhead time to garden now and get annoyed with that too.
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07:53 Hyppolit svn: r14116 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14116
07:53 Hyppolit Regex Editor: move substitution part lower in the window
07:53 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
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08:06 zenog hi everyone
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08:19 Hyppolit #255: Ctrl for hotkeys should be disabled on OS X (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/255#comment:3 ]
08:21 Hyppolit svn: r14117 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14117
08:21 Hyppolit Change the Regex Editor so substitutions can be toggled on/off and it is off by default
08:21 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
08:32 Hyppolit svn: r14118 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14118
08:32 Hyppolit Regex Editor: factor out the code to calculate and display the substitution and call it when the user toggles the substitution windows
08:32 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
08:41 Hyppolit svn: r14119 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14119
08:41 Hyppolit Regex Editor eliminate warning about /g in case of the substitute
08:41 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
08:48 Hyppolit svn: r14120 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14120
08:48 Hyppolit stop using the xism in the Regex Editor
08:48 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
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09:52 Hyppolit svn: r14121 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14121
09:52 Hyppolit [LaTeX plugin] update TODO file
09:52 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-LaTeX/
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11:49 zenog Sewi, El_Che, Alias: Just that you know why you won't hear anything from me the next two weeks: I will be on vacation w/o internet access.
11:50 Sewi zenog: Have fun :-) ...if this is possible without internet :)
11:53 zenog Sewi: Sometimes it is very, very good to be without a computer ...
11:53 Sewi I know
12:01 El_Che zenog--
12:01 El_Che (just kidding :) )
12:01 El_Che have fun
12:09 zenog El_Che: ;-)
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12:40 Hyppolit #480: Custom style setting fails to load on padre restart (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/480#comment:3 ]
12:54 Hyppolit #1027: save file with .pl extension by default? (reopened enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1027#comment:6 ]
12:55 Hyppolit #1112: Remember manually selected mime-type - "View Document As" (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1112#comment:1 ]
12:57 Hyppolit #1177: Allow the user to set the default mime-type (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1177 ]
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13:46 Hyppolit svn: r14122 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14122
13:46 Hyppolit pod cleanup
13:46 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/
13:59 Hyppolit #1176: Preferences 2.0.  Screen is to big (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1176#comment:1 ]
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14:32 Hyppolit #1176: Preferences 2.0.  Screen is to big (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1176#comment:2 ]
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14:43 Hyppolit #1173: Padre homepage navigation needs refactoring (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1173#comment:2 ]
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15:41 Hyppolit #1173: Padre homepage navigation needs refactoring (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1173#comment:3 ]
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18:02 leonardo hello
18:02 leonardo is somebody here?
18:02 leonardo I would like some help please
18:07 leonardo how do I upgrade my actual padre installation?
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20:13 mj41 Hi. Is 'go to definition' (NetBeans ctrl+click) implemented? Anybody working on it?
20:16 Sewi Hi mj41, yes, it's working
20:16 Sewi At least for subs and variables, I didn't try it on other things
20:20 mj41 Sewi: Oh, great, don't know how I miss it. Will try to find source code for it.
20:22 mj41 Opening package/source file probably missing. I mean by click on "use Carp" or " = new MyProject::DB".
20:22 Sewi Select what you want to open and press Ctrl + Shift + O
20:24 mj41 Hmm great, I should test features on simpler projects probably.
20:25 mj41 Padre opening e.g. "Unsaved 3". Any way to define paths to search?
20:26 Sewi It's using the same paths as perl does for use/require
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20:30 mj41 And any way how to modify it for each padre Project/Session?
20:31 Sewi We might have an option for the path in the preferences. You could specify all preferences options in a project's padre.yml
20:32 Sewi Sorry, I was wrong.
20:32 Sewi You need to start Padre with PERL5LIB set to what you want to add paths
20:33 Hyppolit svn: r14123 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14123
20:33 Hyppolit Also open modules and files with path with ctrl-left-click (mj41++)
20:33 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
20:34 mj41 Hyppolit++
20:34 mj41 err, Hyppolit--, Sewi++
20:34 Sewi :)
20:34 Sewi thanks
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20:51 Hyppolit #1138: Padre single instance server not working (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1138#comment:11 ]
20:53 Hyppolit #1135: Padre hangs on NFS shared files (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1135#comment:1 ]
20:54 Hyppolit #1133: ./dev can not be run on the branch (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1133#comment:2 ]
20:57 mj41 Sewi: I just checkout trunk, make and run "perl dev" and I don't see "Failed to create server ..." #1138
20:57 Hyppolit #1138: Padre single instance server not working (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1138#comment:11 ]
20:57 Sewi mj41: Thanks. This happens not always, I never got it myself
20:59 mj41 How to check "Open file on single instance"?
20:59 Sewi one moment, please...
21:01 Sewi first preferences tab, 8th option from top
21:01 mj41 Sewi: On "perl dev", uncheck "Open files in existing ...", exit and "perl dev" again.
21:02 Sewi check it, not uncheck it
21:02 mj41 and I see fails
21:02 Sewi then run dev Makefile.PL while padre is running and it should open Makefile.PL in the running process
21:02 mj41 probably preferences are broken somehow on my trunk
21:02 Sewi Would you like to work on/debug it?
21:04 mj41 I have one hour. Looking on Czech SuperStar :-)
21:04 Sewi :)
21:05 mj41 And feel free to correct my "English". I'm trying to practice :-).
21:06 Sewi me2 :)
21:06 mj41 I have 0.84 installed and fresh trunk. Looking where are Padre preferences saved.
21:07 Sewi Padre::Config
21:07 Sewi The error message might be a better place to start...
21:07 * Sewi currently working on another ticket
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21:10 mj41 Hmm, Preferences 2.0
21:22 mj41 'Failed to create server ... ' ... no 'perl dev' nor 'padre' on 'netstat -nelp' output
21:22 Sewi Hmm, ok it was worth a try
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21:28 mj41 Permission denied in $! ... Somebody say "use port >1024". Any idea how to do this?
21:28 Sewi I think it's already done.
21:29 Sewi Padre creates the server socket somewhere, you need to check the port number there.
21:29 Sewi I think dev defines an own port number for trunk
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21:30 Hyppolit svn: r14124 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14124
21:30 Hyppolit Fix #1122: Recognize more tests
21:30 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/
21:31 Hyppolit #1122: Save intuition should recognize more test scripts (closed enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1122#comment:3 ]
21:32 kalash61 Hello
21:32 Sewi Hi kalash61
21:32 mj41 Trying Ctrl+click on "$self->single_instance_running", but nothing happened.
21:32 Sewi In which file?
21:32 kalash61 I would like to know how to change the parameters in the padre ide like Ctrl+N, I don't want it to put 'use 5.006' anymore
21:33 kalash61 somebody knows?
21:33 mj41 Padre::Wx::Main.pm
21:33 mj41 doubleclick and f3 found definition in same file
21:34 kalash61 but where is the file?
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21:36 kalash61 hello there
21:37 mj41 I'm wxWidgets newbie ... How to dump e.g. Wx::UNIXaddress? ... I see only $VAR1 = bless( do{\(my $o = 77453840)}, 'Wx::UNIXaddress' ); if using Data::Dumper.
21:39 Sewi kalash61: I'm not sure I understand your question
21:39 Sewi mj41: Don't know, maybe through inet_aton?
21:40 kalash61 I mean when you press Ctrl+N, padre starts a new perl 5 script
21:40 kalash61 but
21:40 kalash61 it inserts use 5.006 by default,
21:40 kalash61 and
21:40 Sewi Padre inserts this if you press Ctrl-N?
21:40 Sewi Which Padre version do you use?
21:41 kalash61 I use 0.84
21:42 kalash61 I mean you can do that if look for File-> New -> Perl 5 Script  in the menu, I just bind the Ctrl+N key
21:42 kalash61 Do you understand?
21:43 kalash61 Sewi?
21:43 Hyppolit Sewi is  and also cheating on ironman
21:43 Sewi kalash61: oh, ok.
21:43 Sewi I'm pretty sure that this function is using another CPAN module, but let me look...
21:44 kalash61 Sewi: Any help will be appreciated, because I am very beginner using padre and perl
21:46 Sewi kalash61: There is a template dir in Padre's share dir. All the templates are stored there.
21:46 Sewi You could search for template.p6, the template.pl should be in the same dir.
21:46 kalash61 Sewi: thank for your help and time, but one more thing, where are the Padre's share dir? sorry...
21:47 Sewi Or look at Padre/Util.pm sub sharedir
21:48 Sewi Sorry guys, I'm gone now.
21:48 Sewi mj41: Would you help kalash61 on further questions? thanks :)
21:48 kalash61 Sewi: thank you my friend
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21:56 mj41 kalash61: "Padre's share dir" ? You mean Padre source files?
21:57 kalash61 hey mj41
21:58 kalash61 hello
22:00 mj41 I'm also Padre beginner. But I can help with Perl, so probably with Padre too . :-)
22:00 kalash61 ok
22:00 kalash61 when you look in the menu of Padre Ide
22:01 kalash61 in File -> New -> Perl 5 script
22:01 kalash61 it inserts something I would like to change
22:01 kalash61 hello
22:01 kalash61 u there?
22:02 mj41 ok, I got it. Looking around.
22:02 kalash61 thank you
22:03 mj41 On my Fedora /usr/local/share/perl5/auto/​share/dist/Padre/templates/ ... but not sure how to edit it locally.
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22:04 kalash61 ah ok
22:04 kalash61 let me see if it is in the same place
22:04 mj41 Try to search for file 'template.p6' inside '/usr'.
22:06 mj41 btw, Why you don't like 'use 5.0006' ? :-)
22:06 kalash61 because I prefer to use say instead of print
22:08 mj41 ok, so probably "use Moder::Perl;"
22:08 mj41 Modern::Perl
22:09 kalash61 maybe, I am just learning
22:09 kalash61 are you a Perl expert?
22:10 mj41 http://search.cpan.org/~chromati​c/Modern-Perl/lib/Modern/Perl.pm ... http://www.modernperlbooks.com/mt/index.html ... free book http://www.onyxneon.com/bo​oks/modern_perl/index.html
22:11 kalash61 what are those my friend?
22:11 mj41 imho, the book is good starting point to learn moder perl
22:14 kalash61 i will read it for sure
22:14 kalash61 thank you
22:14 mj41 I'm programming in Perl about 10 years, changing my daily job from php to perl, but only on page 30 of Modern Perl. :-). So no guru yet, just learning.
22:14 kalash61 but thats a lot of time, do you have a web page where i can see your works?
22:17 mj41 we are offtopic a bit ... https://github.com/mj41
22:21 mj41 warning: not sure you can use it to learn perl ... what do you want to do in Perl? You should practice by writing some code. :-)
22:22 kalash61 I would like to automate some Linux task in my server
22:25 mj41 ok, so perl is good choice, try http://search.cpan.org/ and if you not found anything usefull then hack
22:25 kalash61 what do you mean with hack
22:26 mj41 white some great code
22:26 mj41 write
22:26 kalash61 oh, I need to learn first
22:27 mj41 and I need some sleep ... so good night from Czech republic
22:28 kalash61 thank you, you have a good night
22:36 Hyppolit #1138: Padre single instance server not working (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1138#comment:11.12 ]
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23:00 bvierra|l hey all
23:02 mj41 msg Sewi Usage: Wx::SocketServer::new(CLASS, host, port, style = 0)  .... but I see ...  Wx::SocketServer->new( $self->single_instance_address, Wx::wxSOCKET_NOWAIT | Wx::wxSOCKET_REUSEADDR,); ... Isn't port missing here?
23:09 bvierra|l mj41 modernperl is a great book :)
23:30 mj41 I don't understand it ... can't find Wx::SocketClient ... so I don't know how 'single instance' should work.
23:40 mj41 Ok. I just found Startup.pm ... there is probably single instance support for Win32, no unix.
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