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IRC log for #padre, 2011-03-28

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05:43 Sewi hi
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06:56 szabgab gm
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07:26 azornik hm szabgab
07:26 Sewi Hi azornik
07:27 azornik Sewi, azornik = fenderson
07:27 Sewi Hi fenderson
07:27 azornik let me pick my nick again
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07:30 szabgab fenderson: you you could have just typed   /nick fenderson
07:31 fenderson yes i know
07:31 fenderson but i wanted to change the nick list
07:31 fenderson and i dont have to type here
07:31 fenderson i have a box where i can press on it and just change the nick :)
07:33 Sewi fenderson: But typing is usually faster :)
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07:33 fenderson Sewi, ok i'll remember :)
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08:35 fenderson szabgab, Sewi what kind of new feature are we going to make for the next release?
08:40 Sewi fenderson: Usually nobody knows until they're landed or at least discussed :)
08:42 fenderson ok now i know, cause as i was going over the tickets
08:42 fenderson i saw lots of optional features
08:43 fenderson lots of options for new features*
09:09 szabgab fenderson: if you want tot test something then go over the Prefernces 2 and check if everything that was in preferernces 1 still works
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09:14 fenderson ok
09:18 Hyppolit # 1196 :  New wiki Component required. (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1196 ]
09:24 bowtie szabgab, svn:mime types, If you create a wiki page I will have a go, but it will be for those doing sys admin and svn commit, all Padre svn devs should use a common set of svn:mime types, thoughts plase
09:24 bowtie opps please
09:25 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/​Features/ProjectSkeletonGeneration changed by szabgab
09:26 Hyppolit # 1196 :  New wiki Component required. (closed enhancement) by szabgab  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1196#comment:1 ]
09:28 bowtie szabgab, thanks
09:29 szabgab fenderson: so are you going over the preferences?
09:30 szabgab bowtie: the wiki is partially for the developers of Padre so how we use svn and trac can and should be described there
09:31 bowtie szabgab, Ok if I make the page then?
09:36 fenderson yes
09:37 fenderson szabgab, but, why there are 2?
09:37 szabgab fenderson: and old one and a new one
09:38 fenderson szabgab, ok
09:38 szabgab we want to move to 2.0 but we need to make sure it can do everything the old one did
09:38 szabgab and do it correctly
09:38 fenderson szabgab, ok got it
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10:31 fenderson szabgab, are you here?
11:00 fenderson first bug in preferences 2.0 -> file and colours(the older one at preferences was syntax highlighting) cant change file type and highlight.
11:00 Sewi fenderson: Please file a trac ticket for this
11:01 fenderson ok
11:16 Hyppolit # 1197 :  highlighting and file type bug, at Prefrences 2.0 (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1197 ]
11:23 fenderson Sewi, the Advanced setting are the same?
11:23 Sewi No
11:35 szabgab fenderson: pls also reply to the e-mail Adam Kennedy sent to the mailing list with links to the tickets
11:36 szabgab The e-mail of Adam where he wrote about the PReferences 2.0
11:38 Hyppolit # 1197 :  highlighting and file type bug, at Prefrences 2.0 (new defect) by szabgab  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1197#comment:1 ]
11:38 fenderson szabgab, what you want me to reply
11:38 fenderson i read what he wrote
11:39 szabgab a link to each ticket you open
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11:48 fenderson ohh ok
11:48 El_Che lo
11:49 szabgab El_Che: ollo
11:54 szabgab fenderson: so it seems you answered the wrong message after all
11:54 fenderson w8 opps
11:55 fenderson Padre-dev]‎ Preferences 2.0 is now land
11:55 fenderson right?
11:55 fenderson my mistake
11:55 fenderson szabgab, ?
11:56 El_Che I have some homework from Alias about it :)
11:56 El_Che I need todo some reading about the new way it is build
11:57 El_Che sadly, past week was hell time-wise
11:59 szabgab El_Che: I hope fenderson will go over all the options and check if they are in the new Pref window
12:00 szabgab and will try if setting/resetting in the new window sets/resets in the old window as well
12:00 fenderson already did it
12:00 fenderson szabgab, stop doing it please
12:00 fenderson talking about me like i'm not here, its ugly
12:01 fenderson and btw already did it
12:01 szabgab fenderson: seriously? you mean you went over all the parameters
12:01 szabgab stop oing what?
12:01 fenderson opened 2 padre's trying the old preferences and the new one
12:01 fenderson first all the basics
12:01 fenderson and now i'm changing them
12:01 fenderson you're talking about me like i'm not here
12:02 fenderson El_Che, i hope szabgab will understand he's talking to me like that
12:02 fenderson you just talked to me 30sec ago
12:02 fenderson i'm here....
12:02 szabgab good
12:02 fenderson nevermind
12:02 El_Che you seem to have some communicational problems :)
12:03 fenderson its nothing, what i meant is that i'm here
12:03 fenderson you can talk to me
12:03 fenderson tell me fenderson go over that one and that one
12:03 fenderson also do that and that
12:04 szabgab and will you do that?
12:04 szabgab if I tell you what to do?
12:05 fenderson szabgab, sure i'll do it
12:06 fenderson szabgab, and i'm sorry i didnt meant it to sound like i'm attacking you
12:06 fenderson i'm willing to work on my problem and work aswell realy
12:07 fenderson i'm serious, its hard for me, but i'm willing to do it
12:07 fenderson so please just guide me :) ok?
12:08 szabgab ok, so go over the two preferences windows and make sure each option was moved from the old one to the new one
12:08 szabgab also make sure if you change the value in the new one, it changes the same way in the old one
12:08 szabgab both when setting and when resetting values
12:09 szabgab please
12:09 fenderson the first one is already done
12:09 fenderson second i'm finishing right now
12:10 szabgab :w
12:10 szabgab :)
12:10 fenderson szabgab, btw
12:10 fenderson i dont see a default button or a reset
12:11 fenderson it will be great to make one if its possible
12:11 szabgab where?/
12:11 fenderson at the preferences 2.0
12:12 fenderson if i change and than save
12:12 fenderson i have no clue what was the first setting
12:12 fenderson and if i want to go back to the first setting(the default) i cant
12:13 fenderson there is an option at the Preferences->Advanced
12:13 szabgab so open a ticket that describes what you would like to have
12:21 Hyppolit # 1198 :  Preferences 2.0 Default/Reset button (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1198 ]
12:26 Hyppolit # 1198 :  Preferences 2.0 Default/Reset button (new enhancement) by Sewi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1198#comment:1 ]
12:33 Hyppolit # 1198 :  Preferences 2.0 Default/Reset button (new enhancement) by szabgab  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1198#comment:2 ]
12:41 Hyppolit # 1198 :  Preferences 2.0 Default/Reset button (new enhancement) by azornik  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1198#comment:1.3 ]
12:42 Hyppolit # 1199 :  In Arabic and Hebrew interface - the text in "About" is displayed mirrored (horizontally flipped) (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1199 ]
12:43 Hyppolit # 1199 :  In Arabic and Hebrew interface - the text in "About" is displayed mirrored (horizontally flipped) (new defect) new attachment [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1199 ]
12:44 Hyppolit # 1199 :  In Arabic and Hebrew interface - the text in "About" is displayed mirrored (horizontally flipped) (new defect) new attachment [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1199 ]
12:45 Hyppolit # 1199 :  In Arabic and Hebrew interface - the text in "About" is displayed mirrored (horizontally flipped) (new defect) new attachment [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1199 ]
12:45 Hyppolit # 1199 :  In Arabic and Hebrew interface - the text in "About" is displayed mirrored (horizontally flipped) (new defect) new attachment [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1199 ]
12:46 Hyppolit # 1199 :  In Arabic and Hebrew interface - the text in "About" is displayed mirrored (horizontally flipped) (new defect) new attachment [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1199 ]
12:46 Hyppolit # 1199 :  In Arabic and Hebrew interface - the text in "About" is displayed mirrored (horizontally flipped) (new defect) new attachment [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1199 ]
12:47 Hyppolit # 1199 :  In Arabic and Hebrew interface - the text in "About" is displayed mirrored (horizontally flipped) (new defect) new attachment [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1199 ]
12:48 Hyppolit # 1199 :  In Arabic and Hebrew interface - the text in "About" is displayed mirrored (horizontally flipped) (new defect) new attachment [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1199 ]
12:48 Hyppolit # 1199 :  In Arabic and Hebrew interface - the text in "About" is displayed mirrored (horizontally flipped) (new defect) new attachment [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1199 ]
12:49 Hyppolit # 1199 :  In Arabic and Hebrew interface - the text in "About" is displayed mirrored (horizontally flipped) (new defect) new attachment [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1199 ]
12:51 szabgab fenderson: re: #1198, please check what does the rest button do in the advanced settings and open ticket if it does NOT reset to the default
12:51 Hyppolit # 1198 :  Preferences 2.0 Default/Reset button (new enhancement) by azornik  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1198#comment:1.3 ]
12:55 fenderson szabgab, no its not working
12:55 fenderson it has nothing to do with that
12:55 fenderson and i was right
12:56 Sewi fenderson: Sure it isn't working? This would be a new bug
12:56 fenderson sure
12:56 fenderson Sewi, i just checked it
12:56 fenderson in the new one and old one
12:56 fenderson its not a bug
12:56 fenderson why should a feature reset should reset the preferences?
12:57 El_Che ok the wxformbuilder required to hack padre is newer than the one on ubuntu 10.10
12:57 Sewi I feel like we're talking about 3 different things now :)
12:57 El_Che downloading stuff from the web reminds me of my windowstime :)
12:57 fenderson Sewi, i think the same thing
12:57 fenderson Sewi, so again lets see what you meant
12:57 Sewi fenderson: Question 1: Does the default button in the advanced dialog work?
12:57 fenderson i'm going into preferences 2.0
12:58 fenderson have no button
12:58 Sewi It's working here.
12:58 fenderson and i have default value, not working
12:58 Sewi I was talking about the advanced preferences.
12:59 fenderson me 2
12:59 Sewi Please tell me step by step how you tested it
12:59 fenderson i open preferences 2.0
12:59 fenderson and press the advanced
12:59 fenderson button
12:59 Sewi I'm there, go on
13:00 fenderson ok now what buttons you have?
13:00 fenderson filter
13:00 fenderson where you write stuff
13:00 fenderson save and cancel buttons
13:00 Sewi Only two buttons: save and cancel
13:00 fenderson yes
13:01 Sewi And a "filter" input line
13:01 fenderson right
13:01 fenderson now i dont have a default
13:01 fenderson so i thought you meant
13:01 fenderson if i change a feature value
13:01 Sewi Surely not now.
13:01 fenderson example right margin
13:01 Sewi Select any line
13:01 fenderson yes
13:01 fenderson i change the value
13:01 fenderson i set it
13:02 fenderson and i change a value in the preferences aswell
13:02 Sewi yes and if you customize a value, the advanced preferences has a default button for it
13:02 fenderson save all
13:02 fenderson than go back to the feature
13:02 fenderson and reset
13:02 fenderson only the feature resets, i see nothing wrong here
13:02 fenderson its not meant to reset all
13:02 fenderson yes but only for that
13:02 fenderson thats not what i meant
13:02 Sewi yes, so everything is working as expected.
13:03 fenderson i meant for on/off at the preferences
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13:03 fenderson of regex
13:03 fenderson i have no default button to it
13:03 Sewi You want to reset everything to default.
13:03 Sewi Type "padre --reset" for system-wide or "dev -- --reset" for then trunk checkout and you're done :)
13:04 fenderson lol that is great
13:04 fenderson realy
13:04 fenderson but..
13:04 fenderson there are people working on padre with windows OS
13:04 fenderson and they dont open cmd usually
13:04 fenderson or anything like that
13:05 Sewi So it's their fault :-)
13:05 fenderson so i'm just saying it will be nice to add a button
13:05 fenderson XDXD
13:05 fenderson i blame windows and leopard everyday of the week
13:05 fenderson mac..
13:06 fenderson anyway there are people working with those OSs
13:06 Sewi Let's write a mouse virus which uploads itself into each mouse and disables it for one hour per day :-D
13:06 fenderson and i think it will be nice to add a button
13:06 fenderson XD
13:06 Sewi szabgab: What happend to the config sync project?
13:10 El_Che How to create a dialog using wxWidgets
13:10 El_Che Adam Kennedy wrote an entry about this:  Creating GUI code for Padre - A walk through a new feature
13:10 El_Che this is obsoleted with Prefs 2, I guess?
13:11 El_Che I am setting up a new environment with the info Alias gave me on the channel
13:11 El_Che it looks we are moving to wxformbuilder
13:11 El_Che is wxglade still supported?
13:17 El_Che wow, having preferences is wxformbuilder is cool
13:18 szabgab Sewi: I think the config sync is waiting for Alias
13:23 fenderson szabgab, anyway i dont change the ticket
13:23 fenderson cause its like i said
13:24 fenderson if we'll add a button it will be great and if not we'll use the terminal as we do now
13:25 Sewi fenderson: Config sync is something completly different :-)
13:26 szabgab fenderson: your ticket, if I read it correctly, asks for a "reset all preferences" on the standard Preference window, right?
13:26 fenderson right :)
13:27 szabgab so what about the reset button in the advanced preference windows, does that reset the individual preference?
13:30 fenderson yes
13:30 fenderson as it should
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13:40 szabgab and there is a command line option that provides the feature you wanted but you would like to have a button for that
13:40 szabgab what about ammending the ticket with this information (about the reset argument)
13:41 szabgab and suggesting an alternative location for the "reset all" button and/or suggesting something that might help avoiding the problem sewi pointed at
13:41 szabgab and lastly, tell me when you have checked all the config options so if you want I can give you another task
13:46 Sewi szabgab: May I ask fenderson to check #820 when he's done with the other stuff?
13:46 Hyppolit # 820 :  autocompletion triggered on ctrl+tab (assigned defect) by szabgab  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/820#comment:3 ]
13:49 szabgab Sewi: sure, if fenderson is ready to help we can and should give him such tasks
13:49 szabgab but now I am talking about him again as if he was not hear :)
13:49 fenderson szabgab, Sewi lol i'm checking it right now..
13:49 szabgab or here
13:49 Sewi push @fenderson_queue,820;
13:49 Sewi :-)
13:50 fenderson i'm here always
13:51 fenderson Sewi, i dont see what ctrl_tab does
13:51 fenderson the current line colour is gone
13:52 fenderson i'm not on a line anymore
13:53 Sewi Sometimes tab-switching focuses the tab bar :(
13:53 fenderson no i dont see it
13:54 Hyppolit # 1200 :  Refactoring tool: replace indirect calls by direct calls (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1200 ]
13:54 fenderson on new file i saw it
13:54 fenderson but when i opened a perl file
13:54 fenderson i didnt see it
13:54 fenderson and its sometimes sometimes not
13:54 fenderson what should ctrl+tab do?
13:54 Sewi szabgab: I guess we don't get a real chance to get a GOSC project? There were 600 projects last year and we have 150 orgs, so the perl foundation might get about 4 for all projects applying
13:55 Sewi fenderson: It swtiches between the last files you used.
13:55 Sewi If you got 10 files open and work on file 3 and 8, ctrl-tab switches between those two.
13:56 fenderson wow its not ok
13:56 fenderson randomly
13:57 Sewi The problem is that this trigger is double-used.
13:57 Hyppolit # 1201 :  Refactoring tool for Perl::Critic rules (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1201 ]
13:57 Hyppolit # 105 :  recover files when padre has crashed (new enhancement) by Sewi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/105#comment:5 ]
13:57 fenderson yes
13:57 fenderson one to get to the title
13:57 fenderson and other is to switch
13:57 fenderson and it has a another use right?
13:58 fenderson cause i saw it jumps lines in the file
14:01 Hyppolit # 820 :  autocompletion triggered on ctrl+tab (assigned defect) by Sewi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/820#comment:4 ]
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14:12 szabgab Sewi: "sometimes" is very difficult to reproduce in #820, could you please give a way to reproduce each issue? or is this what you wanted to ask fenderson ?
14:12 Hyppolit # 820 :  autocompletion triggered on ctrl+tab (assigned defect) by Sewi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/820#comment:4 ]
14:13 Sewi szabgab: No, it's bad but it's really a "sometimes". Might be 10% or 90% of the times you try.
14:18 Sewi Sorry
14:19 fenderson i dont know why the same combo does 2 things
14:19 fenderson makes no sense
14:21 szabgab fenderson: what combo?
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14:38 Sewi fenderson: It isnt' supposed to do, but I don't know where autocomplete is grabbing that shortcut :-(
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14:53 El_Che anything to regenerate when touching Preferences.fbp?
14:53 El_Che my changes are not activated
15:05 El_Che ok, I need to changes Preferences2.pm in sync
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15:35 fenderson szabgab, ?
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15:40 szabgab fenderson: ?
15:42 fenderson did you get my sms?
15:43 fenderson szabgab, and i checked the options on the preferences 2.0
15:49 fenderson szabgab, ?
15:51 szabgab fenderson: so you say except of that single issue you already reported everything works fine with Preferences 2.0
15:52 szabgab could you please reply to the e-mail of Adam with this information?
15:53 fenderson szabgab, yes i checked the preferences 2.0 and it works fine
15:53 fenderson and you didnt answer my question
15:55 szabgab fenderson: so send that e-mail please
15:55 szabgab fenderson: which question?
15:56 szabgab oh you see if you keep typing  my name without content I can easily miss the line after it where you type your actual question
15:56 szabgab so yes, I got your sms
15:56 szabgab and I even opened a channel to you via IRC but I have not got any response there
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16:13 fenderson i didnt answer cause yaron came in
16:13 fenderson szabgab, and now im here
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16:22 bowtie szabgab, I have a page ready to up load, what shell we call It, (svn::mime types) and should It go...
16:23 bowtie szabgab, Opps and where should it go, initial menu location..
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16:36 szabgab bowtie: you might add it to the http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Howto page
16:37 bowtie szabgab, thanks, will do
16:40 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/WikiStart changed by bowtie
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17:28 bowtie szabgab, once the svn:mime types page has bean checked I will remove draft and to be checked markers
17:28 bowtie szabgab, hope it makes sense :)
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20:15 Blues76 Hi All. I try installing Padre for Strawberry 5.12.2 for win32 running in Windows 7 pro . I ran cpan Padre but it fails. Here is a pastebin with the error http://pastebin.com/n9YY1MYX if anyone could help please.
20:15 Blues76 You will see the final errors at the end
20:15 Blues76 thanks
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20:16 Blues76 My windows is 64 bit
20:16 rindolf Hi all.
20:16 rindolf szabgab: here?
20:20 rindolf Hi all.
20:20 rindolf Well, I tried using Padre to edit some mixed Hebrew/English text on Linux and it didn't do a good job.
20:20 rindolf It's i18n - not localisation.
20:24 Blues76 I think we are the only 2 here ...
20:24 Blues76 The other ones are idle
20:26 El_Che Blues76: I don't have windows here, but it looks like it Class;;XSaccessor expect a 32-bit files
20:26 El_Che stick around, there are several windows developers here
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20:27 Blues76 ok, I will... if not tomorrow
20:34 El_Che good plan
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