Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

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02:06 Hyppolit svn: r14202 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14202
02:06 Hyppolit Updating dependency to add font and tooltip support
02:06 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder/
02:31 Hyppolit svn: r14203 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14203
02:31 Hyppolit Updating to get WORKING tooltip support
02:31 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder/
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02:34 kalash61 hello
02:35 kalash61 I think there is a bug in padre Help sistem, and module installation
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03:13 Hyppolit svn: r14204 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14204
03:13 Hyppolit Generate better code, and use that better generation to get our own dialog closer to the wxFormBuilder design.
03:13 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder/fbp/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder​/lib/Padre/Plugin/FormBuilder/
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05:30 waxhead_on_course yay.. home time!
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06:22 szabgab Lady_Aleena: what os doew alien-wxwidgets hang?
06:24 Lady_Aleena Windows XP
06:25 Lady_Aleena It takes a while for the installation to get over that part.
06:27 waxhead_ hey szabgab
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06:27 waxhead Hyppolit: op me
06:27 waxhead op me
06:27 waxhead oh...
06:32 Lady_Aleena Once the installation gets over that part, it somewhat flies. I didn't stay around my computer through to the end. I got bored watching it.
06:35 szabgab Lady_Aleena: yeah, installing padre on a plain  Strawberry Perl can take several hours even on good CPU
06:35 szabgab so what is the situation now, has it finished?
06:36 Lady_Aleena szabgab, it fininshed half a day ago...
06:36 szabgab waxhead: I should teach Hyppolit to understand both forms
06:36 waxhead szabgab, I'm not fussed.. :)
06:36 Lady_Aleena And I was installing it via "cpan Padre" since I already had Strawberry Perl on my Windows machine.
06:37 szabgab Lady_Aleena: so are you now a happy Padre user or only part of the words apply?
06:37 waxhead szabgab, did you get my email ?
06:37 Lady_Aleena szabgab, I wish I knew what the errors in one script are. It says there are 7 of them, but doesn't tell me what they are.
06:37 waxhead Lady_Aleena, in the syntax check ?
06:38 szabgab do you mean the syntax checker at the bottom ?
06:38 Lady_Aleena Yes.
06:39 waxhead have you clicked on the line?
06:39 waxhead or hovered over it?
06:39 waxhead I seem to recall it will give you some idea what the error is
06:39 Lady_Aleena Though it is syntax OKAY at the command line.
06:40 Lady_Aleena It says "Found 7 issue(s) in $docname"
06:40 waxhead oh.. might be a path issue
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06:41 Lady_Aleena You mean the docname also throws issues?
06:41 szabgab does it really say $docname ?
06:41 szabgab or it is only you adding the placeholder name/
06:41 szabgab ?
06:41 Lady_Aleena No, I just used it to generalize.
06:41 szabgab ok
06:42 Lady_Aleena my $docname = "the full path name";
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06:42 Lady_Aleena It doesn't tell me what the 7 issue(s) are.
06:42 szabgab yeah, ok I am checking it now
06:42 szabgab do you have 0.84 installed then, right?
06:42 Lady_Aleena Yay!
06:43 Lady_Aleena Yes.
06:43 szabgab for me - at least on Linux - I see a triangle on the left of the  line Found 32 issues ...
06:43 szabgab if I click on the triangle it opens it and shows the issues
06:43 Lady_Aleena I just have a book.
06:43 szabgab let me check this on Windows as well
06:44 Lady_Aleena I am on Windows XP.
06:45 szabgab I also have an XP in a virual box
06:45 szabgab there I see a purple book on the left of the "Found 32 issues"
06:45 Lady_Aleena I get that.
06:46 szabgab and I can't even seem to close it, it always lists the errors
06:46 szabgab could you try a vary simple stand alone perl script?
06:46 szabgab something that does not use any modules
06:46 szabgab vary/very
06:47 Lady_Aleena I don't think I have any with errors, but I will try to find one.
06:48 Lady_Aleena I found one, but it uses modules.
06:48 szabgab just have one without erros
06:48 szabgab errors
06:48 szabgab and then type in qqrq
06:48 szabgab in some place
06:49 szabgab that will get you some errors
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06:50 Lady_Aleena I can't find one without the use of a module.
06:50 szabgab Lady_Aleena: try in padre:   open.../open example
06:51 Lady_Aleena Found one...and qqrq made 7 errors.
06:51 szabgab Lady_Aleena: and still no details?
06:51 Lady_Aleena 6 errors and 1 warning.
06:51 Lady_Aleena Oh, I got details this time.
06:51 szabgab good, so Padre is not totally broken :)
06:52 szabgab let's trey to figure out what might make it not show the errors in the other case
06:52 szabgab is the other thing a module or a script?
06:52 szabgab oh and btw if you click on the error
06:52 Lady_Aleena A module (just the .pm, I am not advanced enough to do more than that).
06:52 szabgab does it show you further details?
06:53 Lady_Aleena No...just that it has issues.
06:53 szabgab sorry I was jumping ahead here, in the case where you did get the list of the errrors
06:53 szabgab if you click on one of the errors
06:53 Lady_Aleena Oops, closed it already.
06:54 szabgab could you please check that too
06:54 szabgab so we can se if that part works as well
06:54 Lady_Aleena Oooh, yellow box...
06:54 szabgab good
06:54 szabgab so let's try the pm file that causes the trouble
06:54 szabgab does it alsu load extra modules?
06:54 szabgab also
06:55 szabgab could you comment out the use statements?
06:55 Lady_Aleena Yes.
06:55 Lady_Aleena Hold on...we are mixed up here a bit.
06:56 Lady_Aleena Okay, let me =cut out the use statements (there are gads of modules used).
06:57 szabgab try highlighting them and ctrl-m
06:57 Lady_Aleena Okay, it says I have 3 issues and lists them for clicking.
06:58 Lady_Aleena Now I am wondering if I am even using all of those modules.
06:59 Lady_Aleena With 9 modules commented out, I only got 3 errors.
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06:59 szabgab so maybe you can try to enable the modules one by one and see which one causes padre to stop showing the actual issues
06:59 szabgab so the modules are causing some of the problems :)
07:00 szabgab this can be of course @INC issues that padre does not deal well
07:00 mib_ro53os hello
07:00 szabgab hello
07:00 mib_ro53os padre looses syntax highlighting after sometime
07:00 szabgab mib_ro53os: could you please pick a more human nick ?    type     /nick my_human_nick
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07:01 szabgab :)
07:01 Lady_Aleena use CGI::Carp qw(fatalsToBrowser);
07:01 Lady_Aleena That is what is hiding the errors.
07:02 El_Che szabgab: is has to do wit a syntax highlighter selection that is broken
07:02 szabgab jose_programador: so I do see that thing here and there
07:02 szabgab El_Che: hmm, are you sure?
07:03 El_Che I have see it a few time
07:03 jose_programador when i open the file, the syntax is OK
07:03 El_Che people are running one of the PPI's I think
07:03 szabgab I was hoping it is due to the old scintiall and we can blame it on that :)
07:03 jose_programador but when I navigate thru the code, some parts of the code looses syntax
07:03 jose_programador and then in restores again
07:03 szabgab Lady_Aleena: great! thanks for finding it
07:04 szabgab Lady_Aleena: would you like to open  a ticket with that info?
07:04 Lady_Aleena szabgab, will I get a cookie for it?
07:04 jose_programador i ma on XP. padre version 0.84
07:04 El_Che jose_programador: that really sounds like ppi
07:04 szabgab maybe with a minimal example
07:04 jose_programador what is ppi
07:04 El_Che jose_programador: an alternative syntax highlighter we use
07:04 szabgab Lady_Aleena: yes, trac uses cookies :)
07:05 El_Che because there is a bug in preferences, I think that is the option chosen in Preferences - Files and Colours
07:05 szabgab Lady_Aleena: and I can offer round tuits :)
07:05 Lady_Aleena szabgab, I don't see bug reporting on http://search.cpan.org/~pla​ven/Padre-0.84/lib/Padre.pm
07:05 szabgab Lady_Aleena: http://padre.perlide.org/trac/  here
07:06 szabgab Lady_Aleena: and I think it is here: http://search.cpan.org/dis​t/Padre/lib/Padre.pm#BUGS
07:07 Lady_Aleena Please tell me I can use my PAUSE account to log in.
07:07 szabgab though it does not point to trac
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07:07 szabgab Lady_Aleena: I can tel you  that but it won't make it tru :)
07:07 szabgab but you can use the same username and password  once you registered with them
07:08 szabgab and I promise I won't use them to upload stuff in your name !
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07:12 Hyppolit svn: r14205 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14205
07:12 Hyppolit more specific linking to trac
07:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/
07:12 szabgab Lady_Aleena: I can open the registration page in a sec
07:13 Lady_Aleena szabgab, okay.
07:13 szabgab trac?
07:13 Hyppolit trac is http://padre.perlide.org/trac and also http://padre.perlide.org/trac/register
07:13 szabgab pls register now
07:13 szabgab we should try if the spam filter already works since I upgraded trac
07:13 szabgab and then we could even leave it open
07:13 Lady_Aleena http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Register ?
07:13 szabgab http://padre.perlide.org/trac/register
07:14 szabgab I enabled the e-mail verification module now
07:15 El_Che no luck with the spam thing?
07:16 szabgab something that did not work earlier
07:16 szabgab El_Che: have not tried it
07:16 szabgab so there is an "e-mail verification module" in trac but it does not require an e-mail address to register
07:16 szabgab so it isn't that useful for spam filtering :)
07:17 Hyppolit # 1203 :  CGI::Carp qw(fatalsToBrowser) hides errors (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1203 ]
07:20 Lady_Aleena Ticketed
07:20 szabgab Lady_Aleena: thanks, so what is your PAUSE id ?
07:20 Lady_Aleena ALEENA
07:20 Lady_Aleena I haven't uploaded anything yet.
07:20 szabgab :)
07:20 Lady_Aleena I probably won't, since I really have nothing big to add.
07:20 szabgab so I wonder if you'd like to get some help to fix the bug in Padre ?
07:20 Lady_Aleena I wouldn't know where to begin, and there is another bug...it doesn't follow use lib.
07:20 szabgab we could help you with the part "where to begin"
07:20 szabgab and now that you have an account on trac you can open more ticket :)
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07:21 szabgab El_Che: I have "Enable captcha usage " checked and I have never seen a single captch on our trac
07:21 szabgab maybe if I disable it?
07:21 szabgab Python programmers like to see empty space :)
07:22 szabgab I think it just noticed we are writing Perl code here and pushes back on us
07:22 El_Che ehe
07:22 El_Che maybe you are missing some graphic lib?
07:23 El_Che gd or something?
07:23 Hyppolit # 1204 :  use lib  not followed (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1204 ]
07:23 szabgab yeah it cold be but if told me something about it that would be ,
07:23 szabgab what, that would be to easy?
07:23 szabgab too
07:24 El_Che Generic Infrastructure: TracCaptcha takes care about embedding a given captcha in the appropriate places which means that building a different captcha plugin is easy - you just have to build the captcha itself while this code will take care of the trac integration.
07:25 El_Che you did this?
07:25 El_Che [recaptcha]
07:25 El_Che # add here the keys you got from http://recaptcha.net/api/getkey
07:25 El_Che public_key = ...
07:25 El_Che # add here the keys you got from http://recaptcha.net/api/getkeyprivate_key = ...
07:26 Lady_Aleena There...now you know some more of the problems.
07:26 szabgab there is another "textual captcha" that does not work
07:27 szabgab but I have not tried the recaptch
07:27 szabgab Lady_Aleena: thanks
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07:29 Lady_Aleena Do you all mind a little flood?
07:29 Lady_Aleena I have a very small request to make a ticket for too.
07:29 szabgab Lady_Aleena: we like tickets
07:29 szabgab but please also check if the thing is not reported yet
07:31 Hyppolit # 1205 :  When getting the color scheme from Notepad++, get MY color scheme (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1205 ]
07:32 Hyppolit # 1205 :  When getting the color scheme from Notepad++, get MY color scheme (new enhancement) by Lady_Aleena  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1205#comment:1 ]
07:32 Hyppolit # 1203 :  CGI::Carp qw(fatalsToBrowser) hides errors (new defect) by szabgab  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1203#comment:1 ]
07:33 szabgab Lady_Aleena: I added a minimalistic example to 1203
07:33 Lady_Aleena Thanks!
07:33 szabgab could you please add a simila minimal example to 1204 ?
07:34 szabgab it will make it easier to reproduce the issue
07:34 szabgab and  later to  test if we fixed it
07:34 szabgab or if you fixed it :)
07:36 Hyppolit # 1204 :  use lib  not followed (new defect) by Lady_Aleena  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1204#comment:1 ]
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07:37 Lady_Aleena szabgab, done.
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07:38 szabgab Lady_Aleena: thanks
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07:42 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Tickets changed by szabgab
07:42 Lady_Aleena szabgab, I am a very poor coder, so fixing problems in other people's code that are as complicated as this is, is beyond me.
07:42 Lady_Aleena I still haven't gotten into objects yet.
07:43 szabgab Lady_Aleena: no problem, there are plenty of things to do in Padre that don't involve actually writing code for Pare
07:43 szabgab Padre
07:43 szabgab if you'd like to further help
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07:43 szabgab opening tickets is of course one of them
07:45 szabgab describing the features Padre has is also huge help
07:46 Lady_Aleena szabgab, I have a stack of problems with my code right now.
07:46 Lady_Aleena szabgab, I am looking at a total rewrite.
07:46 szabgab Lady_Aleena: are you working on some open source code or corpoate code?
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07:47 Lady_Aleena szabgab, private code for my own home use for now.
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07:47 Lady_Aleena szabgab, one day to be uploaded to my website server.
07:48 szabgab doing what?
07:48 Lady_Aleena Producing web content.
07:50 Lady_Aleena I roll almost all of my own code.
07:51 szabgab and do you use one of the web frameworks or plain old CGI?
07:51 Lady_Aleena I roll my own.
07:52 szabgab CGI::Application or Dancer might help in organizing your code
07:52 Lady_Aleena I use one thing from CGI, "print "content-type: text/html \n\n";"
07:52 Lady_Aleena I hate most modules like that.
07:54 szabgab I hope Padre can help you in your coding
07:56 Lady_Aleena Maybe...
07:59 Lady_Aleena Now where can I change some of the syntax colors?
07:59 El_Che trunk seems to be broken
07:59 Lady_Aleena The current ones are driving me batty.
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08:00 szabgab Lady_Aleena: there are several pre-defined ones and you can roll your own colors
08:00 szabgab the thing switching between them is in, where is it ?
08:01 szabgab Tools Preferences Appearances
08:01 szabgab Style
08:01 szabgab though I am not sure in 0.84 it is already there
08:01 szabgab it used to be in View/Style
08:01 szabgab but we just moved it recently
08:04 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/w​iki/Features/SyntaxHighlighting changed by szabgab
08:04 El_Che there are a few things broken in preferences
08:05 El_Che it's not too clear to me if we can work on them (with the prefs2 transition)
08:05 El_Che the Coulour and Files entry must go
08:05 szabgab El_Che: you mean broken in the old Prefs or in Pref 3 ?
08:05 szabgab Pref 2
08:05 El_Che both
08:06 El_Che en now with the latest svn update I see only one Pref
08:06 szabgab It would be probably better to fix everything in Pref 2 alrady
08:06 El_Che problably prefs 2 (that looks more like prefs one)
08:06 El_Che yes, of course, but being a moving target I don't want to give Alias extra work breaking his stuff
08:06 szabgab hmm, I saw both, let me try to update
08:07 szabgab and fetch a tea
08:08 El_Che maybe I am on the wrong tree
08:08 El_Che let me check
08:08 Lady_Aleena szabgab, I can't find how to roll my own...
08:10 El_Che $ svn info
08:10 El_Che Path: .
08:10 El_Che URL: http://svn.perlide.org/padre/trunk
08:10 El_Che Repository Root: http://svn.perlide.org/padre
08:10 El_Che Repository UUID: bc93166f-e056-4eb9-8c59-0a0840647e1b
08:10 El_Che Revision: 14205
08:10 El_Che Node Kind: directory
08:10 El_Che Schedule: normal
08:10 El_Che Last Changed Author: szabgab
08:10 El_Che Last Changed Rev: 14205
08:10 El_Che Last Changed Date: 2011-03-31 09:07:35 +0200 (Thu, 31 Mar 2011)
08:10 El_Che looks like the correct repository
08:10 El_Che szabgab: choose PPI in prefereces and edit some text
08:10 El_Che it will crash the editor
08:14 szabgab El_Che: that's not good
08:15 szabgab Lady_Aleena: I'll write it down and add to the wiki page soon
08:15 Lady_Aleena szabgab, thanks.
08:16 szabgab El_Che: which PPI?
08:17 szabgab hmm something is fishy here, I set the syntax highlighting to PPI standard
08:17 szabgab I think it is using it  now (no crash) but on the status bar it says Scintilla
08:18 szabgab and when I open the prefs it say Scintilla
08:19 szabgab no, the prefs does not change save it for me
08:20 szabgab so it does not crash for me  but I cannot really set it to PPI
08:20 szabgab El_Che: and I have both Prefs in the menu!
08:22 Lady_Aleena Padre has a long way to go before it will catch on with the masses. Right now it is too much a pain in the butt to configure.
08:23 Lady_Aleena Even opening it is tedious.
08:23 szabgab opening it?
08:24 Lady_Aleena Open Command Prompt > Type Padre > Enter
08:24 szabgab oh, because you installed form CPAN you don't have an icon on your desktop right?
08:24 Lady_Aleena Right.
08:24 szabgab try running padre --desktop
08:25 szabgab the standard MSI installer create the icon,
08:25 Lady_Aleena You really should seperate from the Strawberry install.
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08:34 szabgab El_Che: it seems to me that r14009 is the one that broke the Preferences for me
08:34 Hyppolit Changeset #14009 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14009
08:34 szabgab let me try to check it again
08:35 * Lady_Aleena goes afk for her sanity.
08:40 El_Che szabgab: no, that's mine
08:40 El_Che that did not fix it (info attached on the ticket)
08:41 El_Che but did not break it
08:41 El_Che let me look for the ticket
08:43 szabgab in 14008 I can still change the syntax highlightr in 14009 I cannot  any more
08:43 El_Che change but it will be not active
08:43 El_Che it's an empty box
08:43 El_Che no link what so ever with the lexer
08:43 El_Che try it
08:43 szabgab ah
08:43 szabgab I have not tried that
08:44 szabgab but since 14009if I change and press save it smiles at me but if I open the pref again it is back to Scintilla
08:44 El_Che idd
08:56 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/w​iki/Features/SyntaxHighlighting changed by szabgab
08:56 szabgab Lady_Aleena: see the link ^^^^
08:57 Lady_Aleena I will look over it later when I get my sanity back.
09:12 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wi​ki/Features/BasicEditorFeatures changed by szabgab
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09:12 Hyppolit svn: r14206 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14206
09:12 Hyppolit move a lot of stale documentation from Padre.pm to the wiki where it can be edited more easily
09:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/
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09:50 Hyppolit svn: r14207 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14207
09:50 Hyppolit more docs moved to wiki
09:50 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/
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12:21 Hyppolit svn: r14208 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14208
12:21 Hyppolit some more docs moved to the wiki
12:21 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/
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14:48 bowtie szabgab, Like your update, But. http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/​Features/ProjectSkeletonGeneration, "Builder is the tool that you project is going to use to package itself and then your user will use to install the project. Currently Module::Build and ExtUtils::MakeMaker? are supported. (TO DO add Module::Install as well)." Padre supports Module::Install now.
14:57 bowtie szabgab, also "run the test: "Run" -> "Run Tests"
14:57 bowtie run the test: "Run" -> "Run and Build Tests"" are the wronge way round, should be "5, "Run" -> "Run and Build Tests"
14:57 bowtie "6,Run" -> "Run Tests" which should be preceded by perl *.PL, otherwise prove -b will fail!, your familiarity and experience are causing missing steps.
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15:36 szabgab bowtie: I mostly copied the text I found in the Padre.pm, feel free to improve it
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15:56 bowtie szabgab, I like your addition, I can see you have bean bissy, it's the order and missing perl *.PL
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19:40 Hyppolit svn: r14209 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14209
19:40 Hyppolit documentation moved to wiki
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19:57 Hyppolit svn: r14210 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14210
19:57 Hyppolit add a test file for #1203
19:57 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/t/files/
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20:35 Lady_Aleena I give up, the colors of my syntax highlighting are not changing no matter what I do.
20:36 szabgab Lady_Aleena: what did you do?
20:37 Lady_Aleena I copied default.yml to my Local Settings/Application Data/Perl/Padre/styles, altered it to colors I wanted, and saved. Restarted Padre, and my colors aren't there.
20:38 szabgab what name did you gave to the file?
20:38 szabgab is that some unique name or maybe you kept default.yml?
20:38 Lady_Aleena I left it as default.yml, however, I tried changing it to something else, but that didn't work either.
20:39 szabgab is config.db in the Local Settings/Application Data/Perl/Padre/  directory?
20:40 Lady_Aleena Yes
20:41 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac​/wiki/Features/Perl5Debugger changed by szabgab
20:41 szabgab could you please try to rename the file to qqrq.yml and then restart padre, just to try again
20:41 szabgab before I ask you to put debug prints
20:43 Lady_Aleena Hold on.
20:44 Lady_Aleena Done..
20:45 szabgab so once you restarted padre, you still don't see the file there?
20:45 szabgab have you started padre on the console?
20:45 szabgab no warnings or errors?
20:46 Lady_Aleena You wanted me to change the name of the style file right, or the config.db file?
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20:52 szabgab the style file
20:54 szabgab I just tried it in 0.84 on windows XP and it worked
20:55 szabgab so we will find out why does it not work on your machine
20:55 szabgab maybe the yml file is not formatted correctly
20:55 szabgab ?
20:55 Lady_Aleena Why did you guys have to make this so complicated?
20:55 szabgab how would you make it simpler?
20:56 Lady_Aleena I know you all are aware of Notepad++. So talk to the writers there and find out how they do it.
20:56 szabgab why don't you tell us what is your expected behavior?
20:56 Lady_Aleena On the fly color changes to see how they look as each is changed in the document is preferable, and only ONE color file which is changed in situ.
20:57 szabgab I am almost sure what you are missing is the GUI for all this
20:57 Lady_Aleena Forget about themes and crap, just 1 file for all my color needs.
20:57 szabgab oh , there are so many people who want color themes :)
20:58 Lady_Aleena They can make their own damned themes.
20:58 szabgab but of course the user experience of this could be much simpler
20:58 szabgab if someone thought it is important
20:58 Lady_Aleena Sorry, I am so very frustrated with this at the moment.
20:58 szabgab I am sorry for that
20:59 szabgab but would you want to try to fix this now?
20:59 szabgab so maybe you can end your frustration?
20:59 Lady_Aleena I would actually prefer a systax checker plug-in for Notepad++.
20:59 szabgab I can't help with that
20:59 Lady_Aleena And what the hell is Scintilla?
21:00 szabgab it is the editor object both Notepad++ and Padre uses
21:00 szabgab and a ton of other editors
21:01 Lady_Aleena I even tried editting the default.yml file and the colors didn't change.
21:02 szabgab did you try to switch between the existing syles?
21:02 szabgab did that make a difference?
21:02 Lady_Aleena wxSTC_PL_SCALAR: is for $ right?
21:03 Lady_Aleena wxSTC_PL_ARRAY: is for @
21:03 szabgab I don't remember but sound like yes
21:04 Lady_Aleena I am going to delete all other styles and just work on default.yml in the Padre folder, how does that sound?
21:04 szabgab but why delete the others?
21:04 szabgab wait, does that mean it now changed color for you?
21:05 Lady_Aleena No, nothing has changed.
21:05 szabgab and if you switch to another syle?
21:05 szabgab style
21:06 Lady_Aleena The colors change, except to mine.
21:07 szabgab you need to restart padre after you changed the colors
21:07 szabgab it does not currently reread the file
21:08 Lady_Aleena What do you think I have been doing?
21:08 szabgab no idea
21:09 Lady_Aleena I make a change, restart Padre, make another change, restart Padre, repeat.
21:10 szabgab and the color never changes?
21:10 Lady_Aleena Over a dozen times so far.
21:10 Lady_Aleena No, never changes to the ones I want.
21:10 szabgab then let's try something else now
21:11 Lady_Aleena I am about to delete every color file except the one with the colors I want.
21:12 szabgab if that works for you ...
21:14 Lady_Aleena This is just making me so mad.
21:15 szabgab Lady_Aleena: oh I think you will hate me forever
21:15 szabgab I think 0.84 was still buggy in this
21:16 Lady_Aleena Not you, the program.
21:16 szabgab maybe you could try to check out from svn
21:16 szabgab the trunk
21:16 Lady_Aleena What is the file name?
21:16 szabgab I think I have fixed it a few days ago
21:16 szabgab svn?
21:16 Hyppolit svn is http://padre.perlide.org/tr​ac/wiki/DownloadRepository and also http://svn.perlide.org/padre/trunk/ and also http://padre.perlide.org/trac/browser
21:17 szabgab http://svn.perlide.org/padre/trunk/Padre
21:17 szabgab check out that directory
21:17 Lady_Aleena Does this have something to do with Alien::wxWidgets?
21:17 szabgab no
21:17 szabgab or I mean the synax coloring yes
21:17 szabgab but the svn no
21:18 szabgab do you have subversion installed ?
21:18 Lady_Aleena No
21:18 szabgab ToritieSVN
21:18 szabgab I mean this http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/
21:19 szabgab please install it
21:19 Lady_Aleena Sorry, if it is going to be that much a pain in the ass, I would rather wait for an update.
21:19 szabgab you can do that too
21:19 szabgab I hope it will be out in 1-2 weeks
21:19 szabgab but we have some issues currently
21:19 szabgab some new ones :)
21:20 Lady_Aleena But do this, get rid of themes, and go with just ONE file for color schemes. If users want a theme, they can create it themsevles.
21:20 szabgab though actually SVN is not that big a trouble
21:20 Lady_Aleena I haven't found any that are totally automatic.
21:20 szabgab you see others say te opposite :)
21:21 Lady_Aleena Well, they are probably kids with nothing else better to do with their time.
21:21 szabgab :)
21:22 Lady_Aleena Oh, and the fatalsToBrowser thing is inherited.
21:23 szabgab what do you mean by that?
21:23 szabgab by "inherited" ?
21:23 Lady_Aleena Any script that uses a module with fatalsToBrowser will not show the errors in the syntax checker.
21:23 szabgab oh its almost midnight here, I need to go to sleep soon
21:23 szabgab ok
21:24 szabgab please add this as a comment to the ticket
21:25 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac​/wiki/Features/Perl5Debugger changed by szabgab
21:25 szabgab night &
21:25 Hyppolit # 1203 :  CGI::Carp qw(fatalsToBrowser) hides errors (new defect) by Lady_Aleena  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1203#comment:2 ]
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21:48 wax_on_course morning
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21:57 bowtie szabgab, I have tweaked wiki page, an struck out text which is already covered, forgot heading, thanks. the strike through needs to be removed.  ps during my intro to wiki's i have bean trying to use WikiCreole v1.0 Compatibility, with reference to http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/WikiCreole, I have made a wiki page which shows this, in progress of producing a sampler, in vein of Quick Brown fox... if you want a copy let me know.
21:58 bowtie szabgab, as I have started to read the backlogs :)
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23:31 bowtie szabgab, Lady_Aleena, found this in r14210, if helps.  colours !
23:31 Hyppolit Changeset #14210 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14210
23:31 bowtie found.
23:31 bowtie Padre/trunk/Padre/share/styles$
23:31 bowtie -rw-r--r-- 1 xxxxx src 6667 2011-03-04 18:10 default.yml
23:31 bowtie -rw-r--r-- 1 xxxxx src 2913 2011-03-04 18:10 evening.yml
23:31 bowtie -rw-r--r-- 1 xxxxx src 6858 2011-03-04 18:10 mc.yml
23:31 bowtie -rw-r--r-- 1 xxxxx src 2854 2011-03-04 18:10 night.yml
23:31 bowtie -rw-r--r-- 1 xxxxx src 3031 2011-03-04 18:10 notepad.yml
23:31 bowtie -rw-r--r-- 1 xxxxx src 2927 2011-03-04 18:10 ultraedit.yml
23:31 bowtie ---
23:31 bowtie With default containing the following sections
23:31 bowtie #
23:31 bowtie # base style
23:31 bowtie # default style (load after plain)
23:31 bowtie # application/x-perl
23:31 bowtie # text/x-perlxs
23:31 bowtie # text/x-patch
23:31 bowtie # text/x-makefile
23:31 bowtie # text/x-yaml
23:31 bowtie # text/css
23:31 bowtie # conf: text/plain
23:32 bowtie #
23:32 bowtie Witch section relates to: Scintilla, PPL Standard, PPI Exermental
23:32 bowtie Where is the hex #f0f0f0 to string key
23:32 bowtie may I suggest you add user defined.
23:32 bowtie do you have a key for wxSTC_PL_xxxxx as well, would make an intresting wiki page with all that color ;)
23:35 bowtie szabgab, maybe her nibs will volunteer, as she likes colour so much ;-)
23:36 bowtie XO
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