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Hyppolit |
svn: r14336 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14336 |
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Hyppolit |
Completed working wxFormBuilder replacement for the bookmark dialog |
| 02:26 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ trunk/Padre/t/ |
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Alias |
One more dialog down |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r14337 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14337 |
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Hyppolit |
Purging the original bookmark dialog |
| 02:27 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r14338 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14338 |
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Hyppolit |
Renaming Bookmarks2 to be the primary Bookmarks module |
| 02:28 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r14339 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14339 |
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Hyppolit |
Renaming Bookmarks2 to be the primary Bookmarks module |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r14340 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14340 |
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Hyppolit |
Removed superfluous inclusion of Padre::Wx::Dialog |
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trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r14341 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14341 |
| 02:56 |
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Hyppolit |
- Shrunk the code needed to support the "Convert Encoding" commands and |
| 02:56 |
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Hyppolit |
moved it to Padre::Wx::Main, removing the need for a dedicated |
| 02:56 |
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Hyppolit |
"Convert Encoding" dialog (ADAMK) |
| 02:56 |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Role/ |
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svn: r14342 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14342 |
| 03:16 |
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Hyppolit |
Update the messages.pot file |
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trunk/Padre/share/locale/ |
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bsalem |
Padre from Ubuntu repository fails after CPAN shell update on Ubuntu 10.10 error: DBD::SQLite::db do failed: attempt to write a readonly database at (eval 163) line 442. |
| 04:39 |
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cfedde |
the installer mucked up some permissions. |
| 04:40 |
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bsalem |
Padre is 0.63 there was permission denied to cp My.pm to my local dirs, then SQLlite failure. Can I recover? I has Padre working then had to update some modules |
| 04:41 |
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bsalem |
Sorry I meant to say "had Padre running" |
| 04:42 |
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bsalem |
I think that Padre:: modules got out of sync with that version, reinstalling did not help. |
| 04:43 |
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bsalem |
Can I uninstall modules from CPAN on my system? Not a perl expert. |
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Alias |
Try padre --reset |
| 05:08 |
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Alias |
But if that's a file you don't have permissions to write to, you might not be able to reset it either |
| 05:08 |
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Alias |
sudo padre --reset maybe |
| 05:09 |
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Alias |
sudo chown -R you.you ~/.padre |
| 05:10 |
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Alias |
I think maybe the test suite hasn't isolated it's working directory properly, has written over your personal config with root permissions, and now you can't edit your own config |
| 05:10 |
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Alias |
We probably shouldn't make --reset launch Padre in that case, just kill off the config and exit |
| 05:10 |
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Alias |
So you can --reset as root without it making a whole new set of things you can't write to |
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szabgab |
Alias: I think bsalem has already quit the channel |
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| 05:27 |
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Alias |
oh |
| 05:27 |
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Alias |
But my point stands |
| 05:27 |
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Alias |
There's no way to use Padre itself to repair accidental pollution of your config |
| 05:27 |
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Alias |
We should make --reset clear out stuff, and then exit |
| 05:31 |
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cfedde |
it would also be nice if padre did not require a threaded perl. |
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| 05:32 |
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Alias |
As luck would have it, I recently refactored the Task Manager so that it is possible to implement a non-threaded task manager instead of the default threaded one |
| 05:32 |
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Alias |
Padre now no longer assumes threads |
| 05:32 |
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Alias |
It's only the default implementation of the Padre::TaskManager that does |
| 05:33 |
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Alias |
If you would care to write an alternative TaskManager that uses processes or something, you're welcome to |
| 05:33 |
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Alias |
I really should write a FAQ for that |
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| 05:42 |
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cfedde |
I'll probably take the admin's path and change my perlbrew to install a threaded perl. |
| 05:42 |
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Alias |
What's I'd love would be some kind of /opt/padre package |
| 05:43 |
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Alias |
Which would be a perlbrew'ish install, with Wx and Padre on top etc. |
| 05:43 |
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cfedde |
sure. I've pretty much gotten over my concern about a different perl for each app. |
| 05:43 |
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Alias |
It would help drive some improvements to Padre we've never gotten around to |
| 05:44 |
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Alias |
Padre doesn't REALLY understand the difference atm between the Perl that is running it, and the Perl that the user is writing against |
| 05:46 |
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Alias |
Having a popular /opt/padre package would help with that enormously |
| 05:46 |
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cfedde |
or at least a convenient one. popularity can come later. |
| 05:47 |
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Alias |
Right |
| 05:47 |
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cfedde |
there would have to be some bootstrapping inversion to do it with CPAN-ish build. |
| 05:47 |
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Alias |
But something real that would force development of that area |
| 05:48 |
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Alias |
I always thought that it couldn't really be much more complex than the Strawberry build |
| 05:48 |
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cfedde |
no. With strawberry the assumption is that you are building perl itself. |
| 05:48 |
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Alias |
But then I only maintain one big build system on Unix |
| 05:48 |
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cfedde |
With padre the assumption is that you are building a module for some perl. |
| 05:48 |
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Alias |
Same with Strawberry |
| 05:49 |
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cfedde |
s/no// |
| 05:49 |
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Alias |
C Compiler -> C Libs -> Perl Itself -> Toolchain Modernisation -> CPAN modules -> custom-weird-shit |
| 05:49 |
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cfedde |
sure... |
| 05:49 |
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Alias |
Example, Padre Standalone for Windows is a sub-classed Perl::Dist::Strawberry |
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| 05:50 |
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Alias |
"Build Strawberry, then install Padre on top" |
| 05:50 |
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cfedde |
heh. |
| 05:50 |
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cfedde |
strawberry on linux. |
| 05:50 |
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Alias |
Well, more like Padre Standalone for Linux |
| 05:51 |
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Alias |
That said, Padre Standalone for Windows can't co-exist with Strawberry |
| 05:51 |
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cfedde |
sure. But if you're goning to have a perl down in your /opt/padre why not let it be a strawberry perl. |
| 05:51 |
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Alias |
Because Strawberry is Windows? |
| 05:52 |
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cfedde |
how hard would it be to make it multi-platform? |
| 05:52 |
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Alias |
Strawberry is the distro, the Perl inside it is bog standard |
| 05:52 |
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Alias |
We don't change the default Perl distro in any way |
| 05:52 |
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Alias |
And it would be impossible |
| 05:52 |
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Alias |
Perl::Dist::Strawberry is built on Perl::Dist::WiX |
| 05:52 |
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Alias |
It's very deeply tied to the production of a .msi installer |
| 05:53 |
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cfedde |
I guess I fell off the clue train somewhere. |
| 05:53 |
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cfedde |
sure enough. |
| 05:53 |
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Alias |
(We had no choice in that) |
| 05:53 |
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Alias |
And much of the logic is platform specific |
| 05:53 |
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cfedde |
sure enough. |
| 05:53 |
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Alias |
Knowing which C libraries build from scratch, packaging GCC correctly, and so on |
| 05:53 |
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Alias |
But the principle is the same |
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| 05:54 |
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Alias |
C Compiler Chain -> C Libs+headers -> Build Perl -> Upgrade CPAN.pm Toolchain -> Tailor CPAN Config -> Install from CPAN -> Dump on REALLY weird extras -> |
| 05:54 |
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Alias |
You could take the basic workflow from it |
| 05:55 |
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cfedde |
I get all that. |
| 05:55 |
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cfedde |
the key for me is understanding the Perl::Dist... stuff well enough to glue such a thing together. |
| 05:56 |
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Alias |
Maybe look at the older version |
| 05:56 |
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cfedde |
indeed. |
| 05:56 |
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Alias |
Perl::Dist::WiX is difficult to understand |
| 05:56 |
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Alias |
The old installer was easier |
| 05:56 |
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Alias |
Perl::Dist::Inno |
| 05:56 |
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Alias |
That should be a much better one to study |
| 05:56 |
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cfedde |
kk |
| 05:56 |
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Alias |
It's all laid out in one big module, largely in the right order |
| 05:57 |
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cfedde |
Perl::Dist::Padre |
| 05:58 |
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Alias |
right |
| 05:58 |
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Alias |
Perl::Dist::Padre isa Perl::Dist::Strawberry isa Perl::Dist::Vanilla isa Perl::Dist::WiX |
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cfedde |
if made platform specific then Perl::Dist::Padre->Build(osname => linux) would just do the right thing. I'm inventing syntax here but maybe the idea is clear. |
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| 06:10 |
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Alias |
I'd so it a bit higher |
| 06:10 |
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Alias |
There's a Perl::Dist::Machine for building whole product families |
| 06:10 |
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Alias |
So you can build 7 or 8 variants at once |
| 06:10 |
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Alias |
Maybe it would be better done near that level |
| 06:10 |
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Alias |
Or yeah, we could do a Perl::Dist::Abstract to unify the API at least of the builders |
| 06:10 |
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Alias |
->isa('Perl::Dist::Abstract') |
| 06:10 |
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Alias |
Or something |
| 06:10 |
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Alias |
Perl::Dist itself is probably already close to that point |
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cfedde |
sure. Well interesting thought experement. |
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cfedde |
for some spelling of experiment. |
| 06:16 |
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Alias |
Yup |
| 06:17 |
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Alias |
Inevitably, nobody cares enough to actually commit to the 5k or so of code needed to do it for real |
| 06:17 |
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Alias |
Same problem on Mac |
| 06:17 |
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Alias |
The payoff just isn't there |
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cfedde |
i debate a perlbrew type approach vs a Perl::Dist type approach. |
| 06:38 |
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Alias |
Both really |
| 06:38 |
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Alias |
Do the perlbrew, install Padre, tar up the results |
| 06:38 |
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Alias |
Oh, you mean script the install so OTHERS can perlbrew it? |
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Alias |
Night all |
| 07:47 |
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Alias |
BTW, I'm down to the last two dialogs using Padre::Wx::Dialog (and thus ugly fixed positioning) |
| 07:47 |
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Alias |
So almost there as far as moving completely to proper looking dialogs |
| 07:47 |
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Alias |
Maybe the last three :) |
| 07:47 |
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Alias |
Module::Starter, Snippit Insert, and Special Insert |
| 07:48 |
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Alias |
Once these are done, we REALLY need to push for a release |
| 07:48 |
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Alias |
As I've got nothing to do other than start on the next big refactor :) |
| 07:50 |
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szabgab |
so we should now go over the feature list and se what is seriously broken |
| 07:50 |
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szabgab |
fix those and push out the release |
| 07:50 |
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szabgab |
or maybe do it in the other direction? |
| 07:52 |
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El_Che |
I would go for fix what's broken. We had many crashs lately |
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waxhead |
evening all |
| 08:25 |
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szabgab |
you too was |
| 08:25 |
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waxhead |
how's padre looking for a release? |
| 08:25 |
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szabgab |
wax |
| 08:26 |
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szabgab |
Alias just finished ruining it |
| 08:26 |
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szabgab |
we should now do some heavy testing |
| 08:26 |
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szabgab |
and fix if we have major issues |
| 08:28 |
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waxhead |
sure... |
| 08:28 |
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waxhead |
I've upgraded my laptop to ubuntu 11.04, so need to get it setup again for Padre |
| 08:28 |
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waxhead |
might do a local::lib install this time... |
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bowtie |
szabgab, ping |
| 09:24 |
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szabgab |
reping |
| 09:24 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, did I get the format correct? |
| 09:26 |
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szabgab |
bowtie: where ? |
| 09:27 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, ppi-editortools testing update |
| 09:27 |
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bowtie |
test files |
| 09:28 |
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szabgab |
have you looked at the diff ? |
| 09:28 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, yes before i uploaded |
| 09:29 |
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szabgab |
to mee it looks like there still is formatting change, right ? |
| 09:29 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, i ran the tidy pl as requested |
| 09:30 |
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szabgab |
let me check |
| 09:30 |
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szabgab |
if you revert all your changes and you run the tidy, does it make any changes on your computer? |
| 09:31 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, yes it modified all t files and others in ppi-editortools dir |
| 09:32 |
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szabgab |
bowtie: in the diff, of t/10-lexer.t the data was reformatted , I'd like to understand if the tidy behaves differently on your machine or not |
| 09:32 |
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szabgab |
bow so even before any changes the tidy thinks it has some work to do? |
| 09:32 |
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szabgab |
hmm |
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bowtie |
szabgab, ok I will download another copy and test latter |
| 09:33 |
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szabgab |
another copy of what? |
| 09:34 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, ppi-editortools, clean location |
| 09:34 |
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szabgab |
ok |
| 09:34 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, ubuntu issues, do we have a deb, that needs to be updated? |
| 09:34 |
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szabgab |
we need to understand why does tidy work differently on your computer than on mine |
| 09:35 |
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szabgab |
bowtie: I am not sure why do you ask, are you an Ubuntu maintainer? |
| 09:35 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, I have same version as padre tidy, but i do have a local perltidyrc |
| 09:35 |
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szabgab |
our biggest issue is of course that Padre does not work out of the box on Ubuntu |
| 09:36 |
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szabgab |
bowtie: if you use the ../tools/tidy_project.pl it should use its own conf file |
| 09:36 |
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szabgab |
if not, we need to fix that |
| 09:37 |
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szabgab |
bowtie: and btw I prefer your formatting of those arrays, I just don't want things to go back and force |
| 09:37 |
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szabgab |
in the layout department |
| 09:38 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, Ubuntu maintainer no, but will to try to create a deb, and see if i can find issues on the way |
| 09:38 |
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szabgab |
I think the Ubuntu .debs are usually pulled from Debian |
| 09:40 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, have been reading, difference would mean a ubuntu on lauanchpad, if so 10.10 or just 11.04 |
| 09:41 |
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El_Che |
hello |
| 09:42 |
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szabgab |
bowtie: as I can see the pacth is agains r14310 ? |
| 09:42 |
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Hyppolit |
Changeset #14310 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14310 |
| 09:42 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, I have this modified Preferences.fbp, how to I give it back Alias as its 600k |
| 09:43 |
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szabgab |
bowtie: I don't know, ask him |
| 09:44 |
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szabgab |
El_Che: hi |
| 09:46 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, ok, I will get clean ppi-editortools, add changes, padre-tidy and re post t.diffs, if thats what you want? |
| 09:47 |
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szabgab |
bowtie: after you have the clean editortools run the tidy and let me know if it makes any changes |
| 09:47 |
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szabgab |
it should not |
| 09:47 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, i will latter today |
| 09:47 |
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szabgab |
if it does we will keep having issues with different tidy-ing |
| 09:47 |
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szabgab |
thanks |
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bowtie |
szabgab, regarding Ubuntu deb, which version? ticket or wiki for shared knowledge? |
| 09:49 |
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rindolf |
Hi all. |
| 09:50 |
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szabgab |
bowtie: I did not understand |
| 09:52 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, If i make a start on a ubuntu deb , which version of ubuntu, as 11.04 uses unity for menu? |
| 09:55 |
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szabgab |
bowtie: I guess it depends what are you planning to put in that deb |
| 09:55 |
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szabgab |
but most likely the latest Ubuntu is the one that is interesting - if you want them to include in their repository |
| 10:00 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, a padre icon on the unity menu, by working my way through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete |
| 10:01 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, knowledge base wiki or ticket? |
| 10:01 |
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szabgab |
bowtie: I don't understand, what are you asking? what is the problem? |
| 10:03 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, there is no problem, if i am to share the build deb process with others, critique, etc:... |
| 10:04 |
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szabgab |
bowtie: I still don't understand what deb do you want to build |
| 10:05 |
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szabgab |
I am qute sure the deb process is already documented well, so I wonder what added value would be for you to write it down again? |
| 10:06 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, i was offering to try to build a padre_all.deb to be put on lauanchpad, that is all, and doc process |
| 10:07 |
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szabgab |
oh, now I start to understand |
| 10:07 |
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szabgab |
what would that include? wx as well? |
| 10:07 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, ok, new question, do we want a padre_all.deb in LunchPad? |
| 10:08 |
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szabgab |
what problem will it solve? |
| 10:09 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, yes just one package and its dependencies, |
| 10:10 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, you ask why, to increase padre presences in linux, for newbees |
| 10:12 |
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szabgab |
will user be able to install the latest padre with (almost) one click? |
| 10:13 |
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szabgab |
I'd start with the latest Ubuntu and I guess I'd just keep a wiki page about the process |
| 10:13 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, that would be the target |
| 10:13 |
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Sewi |
szabgab: Padre could be installed with one click as the debian installer satisfies dependencies itself. |
| 10:13 |
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szabgab |
in the end it should be a script that can build the deb alone |
| 10:14 |
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szabgab |
Sewi: yeah, though as I understand Ubuntu has broken wx - again |
| 10:14 |
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bowtie |
Sewi, i think so, to |
| 10:14 |
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Sewi |
A "padre_all" including the dependencies will mix up system Perl: There might be a Digest/MD5.pm from an Ubuntu package and Padre_all might overwrite it using an older version. |
| 10:15 |
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szabgab |
that' would not be too good :) |
| 10:15 |
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Sewi |
szabgab: We should pack a Wx package next to the Padre package and require our (newer) Wx version in padre.deb |
| 10:16 |
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szabgab |
probably |
| 10:16 |
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bowtie |
Sewi, the "all" is due to padre being a perl app, thus no compiler, just interpreted code |
| 10:19 |
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Sewi |
bowtie: Sure it is - this is the problem :) |
| 10:19 |
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Sewi |
We can't do a static compile and put it somewhere |
| 10:21 |
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bowtie |
Sewi, but is it worth looking at, |
| 10:26 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, preformed test on clean ppi-editortool, file t/10-lexer.t has no changes compared to trunk |
| 10:27 |
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bowtie |
Sewi, thanks for the everything is a project info, look in wiki for info about this but found none. |
| 10:28 |
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Sewi |
bowtie: You can't compile Padre, this is why you can't create a static compiled version. |
| 10:28 |
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bowtie |
Sewi, yes i agree, |
| 10:29 |
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szabgab |
bowtie: so then try to apply the changes but please avoid the style change |
| 10:29 |
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Sewi |
Creating padre_all.deb would mix up installed versions, either CPAN ones or Ubuntu ones |
| 10:30 |
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Sewi |
We need to upgrade the regular Ubuntu Padre package, it's still 0,.63 |
| 10:30 |
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szabgab |
Skype has a version in Ubuntu but you can also install from their site |
| 10:30 |
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szabgab |
the one in Ubuntu is old and broken |
| 10:30 |
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szabgab |
the one on their site is less so |
| 10:31 |
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szabgab |
can we have smething similar ? |
| 10:31 |
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Sewi |
Sure why not? |
| 10:31 |
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szabgab |
oh and when I wanted to install the one from their site it said it conflicts with the one I have installed and I should remove it first |
| 10:31 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, got special dispensation to add to new menu bar as tough it was gnome pannel. |
| 10:31 |
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Sewi |
We could create a Padre.deb and put in into the Download folder. People could install it from there and we could push it to the Ubuntu repository if we get the chance |
| 10:32 |
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szabgab |
that's what I'd like to have |
| 10:32 |
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Sewi |
szabgab: As far as I understand: Ubuntu package system has two parts: A Downloader and a installer. |
| 10:33 |
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bowtie |
so, the objective is to end up in LaunchPad? |
| 10:34 |
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szabgab |
the objective is to make it easy for people to use the latest and breakest :) |
| 10:36 |
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bowtie |
szabgab, Q breakest |
| 10:39 |
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bowtie |
Sewi, can you test the attached file please and comment, http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]s/ToolsPrefernces thanks |
| 10:40 |
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Sewi |
szabgab: I think Ubuntu people prefer the Ubuntu Software center, but a downloadable .deb file would also be cool. |
| 10:41 |
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Sewi |
Opera has this, too, it skips the ubuntu downloader ("apt" / "Software center") and just installs using the dependencies and uninstallation of old versions. |
| 10:52 |
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Hyppolit |
wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/[…]s/ToolsPrefernces changed by Sewi |
| 10:58 |
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bowtie |
Sewi, thanks, the alpha order is due to creation method, ie mkdir touch and tree, the other info, where can i find more regarding dependences |
| 10:58 |
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Sewi |
Makefile.PL |
| 11:00 |
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bowtie |
Sewi, no not Padre, but with reference to your critiques, re Tool Preferences |
| 11:01 |
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Sewi |
I don't understand the question, sorry |
| 11:02 |
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bowtie |
Sewi, your comments are great, where can i find more info regarding Tool Preferences |
| 11:04 |
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Sewi |
Within the perl files, I think |
| 11:06 |
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bowtie |
Sewi, your comments of which items go with which and why, but more of the same please |
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azawawi |
hi * |
| 12:15 |
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azawawi |
Alias: ping |
| 12:16 |
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* azawawi |
finished reading two days worth of #padre logs... :) |
| 12:18 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: hi, hi. |
| 12:18 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: BTW, would you be interested in going over the Arabic translation of http://www.shlomifish.org/humour/human-hacking/ and commenting? |
| 12:18 |
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azawawi |
rindolf: hey! |
| 12:19 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: I didn't do that translation - someone else did. |
| 12:19 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: what's up? |
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azawawi |
rindolf: great.. where is that link? |
| 12:19 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: I have not been in irc.perl.org for a long time. |
| 12:19 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: let me upload it. |
| 12:21 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: http://www.shlomifish.org/hhfg-arabic-f7wx2/ |
| 12:21 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: thanks. |
| 12:24 |
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azawawi |
rindolf: it is cool... but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_diacritics is bad... :) |
| 12:24 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: ah. |
| 12:24 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: you mean the vowels, right? |
| 12:24 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: isn't it vowel-less? |
| 12:25 |
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azawawi |
rindolf: please read that link |
| 12:25 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: ah , OK. |
| 12:25 |
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azawawi |
rindolf: you can ofcourse remove alef with a simple one |
| 12:25 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: alef? |
| 12:26 |
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rindolf |
Alif? |
| 12:26 |
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azawawi |
rindolf: yup |
| 12:26 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: OK. |
| 12:26 |
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azawawi |
rindolf: language-wise it needs a bit of re-phrasing |
| 12:26 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: ah. |
| 12:26 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: let me see if I can dig his E-mail. |
| 12:26 |
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rindolf |
I think I have his MSN. |
| 12:27 |
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azawawi |
rindolf: it is readable though |
| 12:28 |
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azawawi |
rindolf: but has some grammatical translation mistakes |
| 12:28 |
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azawawi |
rindolf: you know the kind when you translate English to Hebrew... |
| 12:29 |
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* azawawi |
must learn hebrew soon |
| 12:30 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: ah, yes. |
| 12:30 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: Hebrew! |
| 12:30 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: שלום |
| 12:31 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: why do you need to learn Hebrew? |
| 12:31 |
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azawawi |
rindolf: العبرية |
| 12:31 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: yes, I can read that. |
| 12:31 |
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azawawi |
rindolf: i know :) |
| 12:31 |
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rindolf |
= "The Hebrew Language" |
| 12:31 |
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rindolf |
Aravi <-> Ivri. |
| 12:32 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: BTW, I've seen a nice Israeli sitcom in the Arabic language on the Israeli Channel 1. |
| 12:33 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: Israel generated some nice sitcoms in both Hebrew and/or Arabic. |
| 12:33 |
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azawawi |
rindolf: bummer... I only watch things available on satellite... |
| 12:33 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: ah. |
| 12:33 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: I think you can catch Channel 1 in the Amos Satellite. |
| 12:33 |
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azawawi |
rindolf: used to... |
| 12:33 |
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rindolf |
And it should be unencrypted. |
| 12:34 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: BTW, is Jordanian Arabic close to Palestinian Arabic? |
| 12:34 |
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azawawi |
rindolf: satellite unaligned a bit after last weather storms and im too lazy to fix it... |
| 12:34 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: ah. |
| 12:35 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: I only have cables. |
| 12:35 |
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azawawi |
rindolf: it is more or less the same except the northern/southern dialects |
| 12:35 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: ah. |
| 12:36 |
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rindolf |
OK, back to translating HHFG to Hebrew. |
| 12:36 |
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azawawi |
cool thanks |
| 12:36 |
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azawawi |
rindolf++ |
| 12:37 |
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azawawi |
now what should i do to fix Padre... hmmm :) |
| 12:37 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: :-) |
| 12:37 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: Fix Padre on Windows? |
| 12:37 |
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azawawi |
rindolf: yeah but i have a more evil plan :) |
| 12:37 |
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rindolf |
azawawi: Evil sounds good. ;-) |
| 12:38 |
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* azawawi |
plans to read Modern Perl over the weekend... first |
| 12:38 |
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azawawi |
and i have been experimenting lately with Mojo |
| 12:38 |
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azawawi |
and Dancer |
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zenog |
azawawi: Sounds like fun ;-) |
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azawawi |
zenog: hi there! |
| 12:41 |
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azawawi |
wxwidgets is cool but what about Padre::Lite in a web browser... :) |
| 12:41 |
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szabgab |
man, I am inserting data into an sqlite database, it takes about 2 hours |
| 12:42 |
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szabgab |
if I first start a transaction and commit only at the end it is faster |
| 12:42 |
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azawawi |
szabgab: batch like 1000+ in a transaction and then commit |
| 12:42 |
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szabgab |
it takes 30 sec |
| 12:42 |
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zenog |
azawawi: Or an ncurses version of Padre. Padre::Vintage |
| 12:42 |
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azawawi |
zenog: yeah |
| 12:42 |
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szabgab |
azawawi: right |
| 12:42 |
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El_Che |
it's called vim/emacs |
| 12:42 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: hehe |
| 12:43 |
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El_Che |
hi azawawi, rindolf, zenog |
| 12:44 |
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rindolf |
Hi El_Che |
| 12:44 |
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* azawawi |
tries installing Curses::Toolkit over win32 |
| 12:44 |
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El_Che |
I haven't touch java in a while, refreshing by rereading core java I and II (+-2000 pages): makes me tired |
| 12:44 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: write applications... it is better |
| 12:44 |
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El_Che |
I am attending an j2ee course, so better refresh the j2se part |
| 12:45 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: j2ee is dead lol |
| 12:45 |
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El_Che |
azawawi: yeah, that's what developers use here |
| 12:45 |
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El_Che |
so, know your enemey stuff |
| 12:45 |
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El_Che |
I changed jobs some time ago |
| 12:45 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: i dont understand why some developer like to complicate things |
| 12:45 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: developer=developers |
| 12:45 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: ejb != reusability |
| 12:46 |
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El_Che |
azawawi: I often feel I know more java than the guys doing the projects. sigh |
| 12:46 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: and setting up dev environments are a pain |
| 12:46 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: i do simple ee java |
| 12:47 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: i design java stuff to be simple |
| 12:47 |
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El_Che |
chnages some things here. Like stopping developers doing 3 times a week deployments in production in stuff |
| 12:47 |
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El_Che |
yep, I am the bad guy :) |
| 12:47 |
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El_Che |
simple is good |
| 12:47 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: sometimes dropping big frameworks = more productivity |
| 12:48 |
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El_Che |
you need good developers |
| 12:48 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: given that you do not need to know much to change stuff |
| 12:48 |
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azawawi |
Curses::Toolkit failed |
| 12:48 |
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El_Che |
the thing is that a lot of developers don't know/care much about programmers |
| 12:49 |
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azawawi |
zenog: Curses::Toolkit stills fails over win32 |
| 12:50 |
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El_Che |
azawawi: we have java apps crawing on servers with 128 or 256 cores |
| 12:50 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: too many frameworks |
| 12:50 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: bloat... |
| 12:50 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: and in the end, you're insert X into database Y... |
| 12:50 |
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El_Che |
hehe |
| 12:50 |
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El_Che |
idd |
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azawawi |
El_Che: insert=inserting |
| 12:51 |
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zenog |
azawawi: okay ... I do not run Windows, so I never know the state of affairs there ... |
| 12:51 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: i hate Java ORMs in general... |
| 12:51 |
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El_Che |
zenog: aren't you the .net guy? :P |
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El_Che |
azawawi: talking about db killing queries :) |
| 12:52 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: just turn SQL logging on an ORM... and tears start dropping... :) |
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dolmen |
azawawi: there is no 'curses' on Strawberry :( |
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azawawi |
El_Che: a SELECT for every object queried in some cases... and the developer is happily iterating that list... lol |
| 12:54 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: ORM are cool toys when used properly |
| 12:54 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: but batch processing and ORMs do not mix well... |
| 12:54 |
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El_Che |
things tend to become very complex and no ones has a global view |
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azawawi |
El_Che: also relationships in ORM tend to overcomplicate a simple table leading to many unnecessary joins... |
| 12:55 |
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zenog |
El_Che: I am the .NET on Linux guy ;-) |
| 12:55 |
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azawawi |
zenog: the mono guy! :) |
| 12:55 |
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El_Che |
the guys with a patent bomb jacket :) |
| 12:55 |
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El_Che |
zenog: didn't the mono dev get fired, btw? |
| 12:56 |
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El_Che |
I saw something on slashdot (not much of a reference) |
| 12:57 |
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azawawi |
any idea where can I find a Perl 5 porters IRC channel log? |
| 12:58 |
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El_Che |
feeling adventurous? |
| 12:58 |
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azawawi |
i once asked that question there... ouch! |
| 12:59 |
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azawawi |
privacy issues etc... |
| 13:03 |
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azawawi |
I have been thinking lately if it is feasible to run Padre as an HTTP server and then code the UI via HTML/JavaScript... |
| 13:05 |
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azawawi |
The reason for that is that wxwidgets installation is making things harder for most of our users |
| 13:05 |
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Sewi |
Wouldn't that be very very slow? |
| 13:05 |
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azawawi |
very very slow... why? :) |
| 13:05 |
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Sewi |
Because Javascript is slower than perl and HTTP is slower than Padre's current APIs. |
| 13:06 |
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azawawi |
true |
| 13:06 |
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zenog |
Yeah, it seems they have been fired ... essentially, with software patents these days, everyone in software wears a patent bomb jacket. |
| 13:06 |
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azawawi |
but JavaScript = faster now than Perl |
| 13:06 |
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azawawi |
on modern browsers |
| 13:06 |
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Sewi |
sure? |
| 13:06 |
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azawawi |
yup |
| 13:07 |
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zenog |
azawawi: Wouldn't it be better to then code most of it in JavaScript, to avoid to much HTTP communication? |
| 13:07 |
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azawawi |
zenog: but the trick is not to play a lot in the javascript land |
| 13:07 |
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zenog |
JavaScript has become very very fast in the recent years. |
| 13:08 |
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azawawi |
zenog: i mean still code Perl but translate stuff to JavaScript on the fly... or something |
| 13:08 |
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El_Che |
azawawi: gwt for perl? |
| 13:08 |
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dolmen |
azawawi: do you want to build a Perl version of Orion http://eclipse.org/orion/ |
| 13:08 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: you read my mind lol |
| 13:10 |
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azawawi |
dolmen: nice link |
| 13:10 |
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dolmen |
Sewi, azawawi: see Orion and also http://ajaxorg.github.com/ace/build/editor.html |
| 13:11 |
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dolmen |
http://ace.ajax.org/ |
| 13:11 |
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azawawi |
dolmen: i did some crazy stuff in JavaScript... :) |
| 13:12 |
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azawawi |
dolmen: when i was hacking in #perl6 |
| 13:12 |
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dolmen |
azawawi: you ported PPI to JavaScript? (that would be cool!) |
| 13:13 |
|
zenog |
We just need Perl on JavaScript. |
| 13:13 |
|
zenog |
And maybe Wx on JavaScript :-P |
| 13:13 |
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dolmen |
"just" :) |
| 13:14 |
|
zenog |
dolmen: ;-) |
| 13:14 |
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azawawi |
GWT solves it by dividing your application into server and client |
| 13:14 |
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azawawi |
the Java client syntax is more restricted |
| 13:14 |
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azawawi |
the server = fully-fledged Java |
| 13:14 |
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azawawi |
that way they translate a subset of Java into JavaScript |
| 13:15 |
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azawawi |
which lives in yourapplication.client package... |
| 13:15 |
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dolmen |
azawawi: in GWT the server can be anything, not just Java |
| 13:15 |
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azawawi |
dolmen: true |
| 13:15 |
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azawawi |
dolmen: python works there |
| 13:16 |
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azawawi |
dolmen: but the integration they did for eclipse is just crazy |
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dolmen |
azawawi: the Java-to-JS is just for client side code |
| 13:16 |
|
zenog |
RStudio is an IDE for R that also runs on the web (but also native): http://www.rstudio.org/ |
| 13:16 |
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azawawi |
dolmen: gwt development over eclipse = write, save and refresh your browser... |
| 13:17 |
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azawawi |
dolmen: no compilation step whatsoever... |
| 13:17 |
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azawawi |
dolmen: however every now and then that process fails, and you need to restart but that's after 1-2+ hours of continuous development |
| 13:18 |
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zenog |
On the other hand, what' |
| 13:18 |
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zenog |
s wrong with normal GUI apps? |
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azawawi |
so far the dependency over X framework... |
| 13:19 |
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azawawi |
which is not being updated |
| 13:19 |
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dolmen |
portability |
| 13:19 |
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azawawi |
and nobody at ubuntu/debian seems to care about installing it properly |
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dolmen |
you mean Wx, isn't it? |
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azawawi |
dolmen: yeah |
| 13:21 |
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azawawi |
when will wxwidgets 3.0 be released?... |
| 13:22 |
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El_Che |
azawawi: how was your stay in c++ land for the scintilla work? |
| 13:22 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: bad lol |
| 13:23 |
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dolmen |
about Padre on Ubuntu: I just installed it on Xubuntu (Xfce-based Ubuntu desktop) and I don't have the application menu |
| 13:23 |
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dolmen |
Ubuntu Natty |
| 13:23 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: but i mostly got distracted with my future house preparations... |
| 13:23 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: I got engaged in April... |
| 13:24 |
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El_Che |
ah, congratulations |
| 13:24 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: thanks |
| 13:24 |
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dolmen |
yes, congratulations |
| 13:24 |
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azawawi |
*: thanks :) |
| 13:25 |
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azawawi |
no time left to do a lot of my hobbies :) |
| 13:25 |
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El_Che |
or rather: you got a new hobby |
| 13:25 |
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azawawi |
but im slowly adjusting |
| 13:25 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: :) |
| 13:26 |
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azawawi |
dolmen: watch out for perlbrew bug on natty |
| 13:26 |
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azawawi |
dolmen: http://ahmadzawawi.blogspot.co[…]and-perlbrew.html |
| 13:26 |
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El_Che |
azawawi: it's rather a perl bug |
| 13:26 |
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El_Che |
or better: ubuntu one as they decided to move libs around |
| 13:26 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: i know |
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dolmen |
azawawi: I don't use PerlBrew... yet |
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azawawi |
El_Che: no symlinks... crazy |
| 13:27 |
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dolmen |
symlinks do not help to find problems |
| 13:28 |
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azawawi |
Anyway it is the same on win64 |
| 13:28 |
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azawawi |
ok, my other project that i have been designing in my mind |
| 13:28 |
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azawawi |
Wx::FormBuilder :) |
| 13:30 |
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azawawi |
basically it is a port of wxformbuilder for perl |
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azawawi |
dolmen: I use perlbrew to test Padre against multiple versions of Perl... that's it |
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El_Che |
is pretty nice |
| 13:31 |
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El_Che |
I use it on linux and solaris |
| 13:32 |
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azawawi |
El_Che: what version of Solaris are we talking about btw? |
| 13:32 |
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El_Che |
10 |
| 13:33 |
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azawawi |
Last Solaris i touched was version 8, stayed in touch until 9 |
| 13:33 |
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El_Che |
10 is an huge improvement |
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azawawi |
used to use sunfreeware.com a lot back in those days... |
| 13:34 |
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azawawi |
to get up2date packages |
| 13:34 |
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azawawi |
or compile them |
| 13:34 |
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El_Che |
opencsw is where the action is |
| 13:34 |
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El_Che |
but I don' use it due to security |
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El_Che |
I compile and package myself |
| 13:35 |
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El_Che |
creating a perl lib for it |
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azawawi |
http://www.opencsw.org/?s=padre # nothing :( |
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El_Che |
hopefully to be released on cpan soon |
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El_Che |
Solaris::PackageFactory |
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El_Che |
azawawi: I am in contract with those guy |
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El_Che |
they gave me an account on thir buldfarm |
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El_Che |
guys |
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El_Che |
also a lot of love for perl |
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azawawi |
cool |
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El_Che |
they apt-get clone is in perl |
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El_Che |
their |
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azawawi |
El_Che: 5.14 should be released soon but be available in all platforms in 2020+ :) |
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El_Che |
hehe |
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azawawi |
El_Che: system perl is a blessing and a curse at the same time :) |
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El_Che |
idd |
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El_Che |
azawawi: at least we'are getting perl 5.10 on solaris 11 end this year |
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El_Che |
and a sane package/patching infrastructure |
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azawawi |
El_Che: yeah but developers are capped at 5.8 until i dont know when... |
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azawawi |
El_Che: it is frustrating a bit |
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El_Che |
5.8 is pretty dead by now |
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El_Che |
recently |
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El_Che |
it took a long time |
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El_Che |
ah |
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El_Che |
perl, not solaris |
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El_Che |
:) |
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azawawi |
hehe |
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El_Che |
solaris 5.8 is just dead |
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azawawi |
2.8 |
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azawawi |
:) |
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El_Che |
l |
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El_Che |
hehe |
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El_Che |
solaris 10 has perl 5.8.4 |
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El_Che |
I end up packageing my own perl for solaris |
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azawawi |
{Crazy Sun engineers}++ # for funny Solaris versions :) |
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El_Che |
thebes-root# uname -a |
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El_Che |
SunOS thebes 5.10 Generic_142900-15 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Fire-V440 |
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El_Che |
thebes-root# grep Solaris /etc/release Solaris 10 10/09 s10s_u8wos_08a SPARC |
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El_Che |
several names everywhere :) |
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azawawi |
hehe |
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El_Che |
sunos 5.10, Solaris 10 10/09, Solaris 10 update 8 |
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azawawi |
Java 6 Update 25 => java version "1.6.0_25" => build 1.6.0_25-b06 |
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azawawi |
=> Hotspot build 20.0-b11 ... :) |
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azawawi |
So the question is do we need a Wx GUI designer in Padre or not (as a plugin at least at first) |
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El_Che |
like in netbeans? it would rule |
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azawawi |
start simple and then extend |
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El_Che |
like the borg |
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azawawi |
We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Resistance is futile.... :) |
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El_Che |
who can say no when a hot chick says that |
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El_Che |
so, azawawi when will you be assimilated? |
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El_Che |
:) |
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azawawi |
:) |
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azawawi |
hopefully i will start reading Modern Perl this evening, and drop an initial Padre::Plugin::Experimento with a couple of my random ideas |
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azawawi |
over the weekend |
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El_Che |
it was a nice read |
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azawawi |
chromatic++ |
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azawawi |
http://www.modernperlbooks.com[…]ppy-accident.html # very cool... |
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* azawawi |
preps for the journey to total-weekend-fun... :) |
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* azawawi |
home... cya later everyone & |
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bookmark dialog: hot-keys are missing, ESC does not close it |
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szabgab, ping |
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& |
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I did an update of perl modules using CPAN shell. This broke Padre, setting chown to root:root for .padre dir. I changes this and padre came back, thks. |
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Am running 0.63 from Ubuntu apps, that is down rev, but fixing ownership brought it back. |
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user_4243 |
When I run Padre in using Debug->Step in it doesn't seem to pass in my command line parameters that under Preferences 'Run Parameters'-Current Document. How do I pass in command line parameter when running in debug mode |
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user_4243: I don't think padre..... |
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szabgab |
user_4243: I don't think padre can do it for you now |
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szabgab |
but you can set @ARGV in your script |
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szabgab |
as a work around |
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user_4243 |
ok. Thanks for the suggestion. Would be nice if command line parameters worked in debug mode. Hope its an upcoming feature. |
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szabgab |
yeah, one day :) |
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szabgab |
but lack of relevant tuits |
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