Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2011-05-18

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04:09 Hyppolit svn: r14389 | garu++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14389
04:09 Hyppolit updating pod reference to Padre::Plugin
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04:29 Hyppolit svn: r14390 | garu++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14390
04:29 Hyppolit fixing segfault in Linux for SetSelectedFont(wxNullFont)
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04:30 garu El_Che: there ^^, make test should pass now :)
04:30 garu (Mark Dootson)++
04:40 Hyppolit # 1210 :  76-preferences.t fails while passing all the tests (closed defect) by garu  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1210#comment:6 ]
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04:43 Hyppolit svn: r14391 | garu++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14391
04:43 Hyppolit oops, committed in the middle of a comment
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05:06 Alias Has anyone every considered the idea of using Google Translate to translate software?
05:07 Alias That is, you take the language file that has been hand-translated, and then you fill in the remaining gaps at build time by running the untranslated strings though Google Translate or something similar
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07:04 El_Che garu++
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08:49 daxim Alias, no translator/m17n programmer worth his salt would be caught doing such a thing
08:49 daxim it would totally go against established practice, the potential to cause damage or hurt the user's feelings is just too great because language is such a delicate matter
08:49 daxim google translate is particularly unsuited because of its probabalistic nature.  on the web, it's comical at the worst that "Prague" turns into "Bratislava", now imagine what can go wrong with buttons labelled with their opposite meaning
08:49 daxim a corpus of already translated words has its place, though, but is used at the beginning, say when I translate a new program into my language
08:49 daxim I don't need to do all the common stuff like "Settings", "Help" etc. manually
08:49 daxim see chapters Glossary and Translation Memory in the lokalize manual about that
08:54 El_Che garu, mark: tests passes now on linux!
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09:01 waxhead evening..
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09:16 zenog hi waxhead
09:16 waxhead hey zenog...
09:16 waxhead seems we're getting close to roll out a release..
09:16 waxhead the natives are getting restless.. :)
09:18 waxhead I'm just building the current svn....
09:18 waxhead check out the work garu has done with the find in selection...
09:18 waxhead good to see him back.. :)
09:31 zenog garu++
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10:25 waxhead how do you find in selection?
10:29 waxhead lol... 7 minutes after garu leaves I waltz into the channel...
10:42 waxhead OK.. can someone update to latest svn and open a file and then close it using the little x on the tab.
10:43 waxhead oh.. don't worry...
10:43 waxhead I'm wondering now if something wasn't running on that document...
10:48 waxhead I think the issue is related to the size of the document that outline is trying to parse...
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10:49 waxhead those gtk errors aren't pretty either...
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11:36 bowtie Q can someone please tell me where I can find the padre package Wx::Dialog  and its constructor please
11:36 Sewi lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog - usually
11:38 bowtie Sewi, thanks
11:40 Hyppolit svn: r14392 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14392
11:40 Hyppolit taking the blame for some code,   running tidy...
11:40 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Config/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/History/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Role/ trunk/Padre/t/
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11:49 bowtie Sewi, lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog has our @ISA = ('Wx::Dialog'); but where do I find the base class Wx::Dialog
11:50 Sewi oh sorry, this is usually imported from Wx
11:50 Sewi Try perl -MWx::Dialog -le 'print $INC{"Wx/Dialog.pm"};'
11:53 bowtie Sewi, am I get  Can't locate Wx/Dialog.pm, but It's part of Padre?, it's not part of Wx
11:53 bowtie opps all I get
11:54 Sewi Sorry, you're right
11:55 bowtie Sewi, is it a package in a package?
11:55 bowtie opps two packages in one file
11:57 Sewi We shouldn't have this
11:59 bowtie Sewi, thanks, it's time for lunch now, talk latter :)
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12:42 garu Alias: google translate only works for languages that have a similar structure than english, and ever since they allowed user suggestions you get the weirdest results (from plain cursing to total nonsense)
12:44 El_Che ok, perl 5.14.0 fails miserably on solaris 10
12:45 garu waxhead: morning!
12:45 garu waxhead: did you get perlbrew working?
12:47 garu waxhead: I saw you had trouble at some point... it's strange, I think it was the smoothest build for me ever (even Locale::Msgfmt)
12:47 garu El_Che: did you manage to tell the nice folks at #p5p?
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13:07 El_Che lo
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15:00 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/​wiki/Features/PreferenceSystem changed by szabgab
15:02 Hyppolit svn: r14393 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14393
15:02 Hyppolit move some of the documentation to the wiki
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15:17 Hyppolit svn: r14394 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14394
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16:50 frew hey guys, someone commented on my blog that they wanted padre to be converted from svn to git, but it doesn't look like it was one of you
16:51 frew is that something you guys are interested in?
16:54 zenog I can live/work with both, so I currently see no big reason to switch. Don't know about the other (more active ...) developers, though.
16:55 garu frew: this has always been a discussion around here I think
16:55 frew ok
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16:55 frew well, I can do it for you if you want
16:55 garu some people like git, others don't, most of us don't really care though - specially since there's git+svn :)
16:55 frew but it's your call, obviously
16:56 garu frew: if you are really knowledgeable in git and svn, both of those have plugin in padre that could really use a revamp
16:56 garu we'd definitely love if you could help with that :)
16:56 frew haha
16:57 frew well, when I eventually jump into padre dev it will be to make the vi plugin more full featured
16:57 garu cool
16:57 garu where is the comment? I can't spot it?
16:58 PerlJam I would probably be more active with padre if I didn't have to deal with svn  ;)
16:59 garu I remember back then, either jq or tsee, had some issues with svn and just plugged svn+git and went off with it
16:59 garu I haven't used it, but I heard it works
16:59 macroz Good day/evening everyone!
16:59 garu hi macroz
17:00 zenog frew: So if you have some time, doing something with Padre, either the subversion, git, or vi plug-in is worth much more than switching the version control from svn to git ;-)
17:01 macroz http://img716.imageshack.us/i/screenshotpxq.png/
17:01 macroz Does everyone have preferences window like this?
17:01 zenog frew: You know where to ask for advice if you are stuck ...
17:01 zenog macroz: Nope, layout is okay for me.
17:01 PerlJam zenog++ well said
17:02 zenog macroz: What is your platform? OS? Version?
17:02 zenog macroz: The guys working on the dialogs may want to know about this. Which version of Padre do you use?
17:02 macroz zenog: fresh installed natty, with gnome
17:02 frew garu: sorry, I apparently forgot to approve it: http://blog.afoolishmanifesto.​com/archives/1541#comment-2490
17:03 macroz macroz: and padre is 0.84.
17:03 macroz So, should I create a ticket, or those guys are here, on this channel?
17:05 zenog frew: Which version of Padre? Trunk/0.85?
17:05 zenog sorry, I meant macroz
17:05 zenog macroz: If no one reacts here, please file a ticket.
17:05 macroz zenog: 0.84
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17:06 zenog macroz: There will be a new release soonish where some of the dialogs (including the preferences dialog) will be re-worked anyway.
17:07 zenog macroz: If you feel like trying, you could download the development version of Padre and see whether the problem persists.
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17:08 macroz zenog: ok, I'll try to install trunk version and play with it a little bit
17:19 garu macroz: what's wrong with that layout? too big?
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17:21 macroz garu: input boxes too small
17:28 zenog macroz: cool.
17:28 zenog garu: The checkbox labels should automatically wrap, I'd say.
17:28 zenog &
17:29 garu right
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17:46 El_Che http://thepiratebay.org/search/The%2​0Big%20Bang%20Theory%20s04e24/0/99/0
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17:46 El_Che http://thepiratebay.org/search​/The%20Office%20s07e25/0/99/0
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17:46 El_Che crap
17:46 El_Che sorry
17:46 El_Che wrong copy paste
17:46 El_Che I hate this laptop
17:51 garu .oO( someone's doing something nasty )
17:52 garu :D
17:52 bowtie zenog, I have already provided a starting point for this with an prefs 2 fbp, see #1176
17:52 Hyppolit # 1176 :  Preferences 2.0.  Screen is to big (assigned defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1176#comment:3 ]
17:52 Getty LOL
17:54 bowtie macroz, opps sorry I ment to include you to
17:55 macroz bowtie: but it's about height of window?
17:58 macroz BTW, what is perl beginner mode is about?
18:14 El_Che I wanted to passwd the mono article url that was pasted on #p5p (for zenog)
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21:44 waxhead macroz, perl beginner looks for "beginner" type errors, like missing use strict etc...
21:44 waxhead I think
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