Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2011-06-07

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06:07 azawawi hi
06:07 Sewi gm azawawi
06:08 azawawi http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/06/wor​ld-ipv6-day-begins-24-hours-from-now.html  ... :)
06:15 azawawi Alias: ping
06:20 Hyppolit svn: r14515 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14515
06:20 Hyppolit Bumped Wx dependency to 0.9901 to fix the Wx::Button::GetDefaultSize build bug
06:20 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
06:20 azawawi Alias: please take a look at r14515
06:20 Hyppolit Changeset #14515 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14515
06:25 azawawi wow now that's a new and modern search.cpan.org http://blogs.perl.org/users/mo/201​1/06/introducing-betametacpanorg--​-a-better-search-for-the-cpan.html !!!
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06:32 azawawi finally no more waiting for cpan uploads at http://beta.metacpan.org ! :)
06:46 garu azawawi: oh! I didn't get a chance to talk to you before you left: thanks for trying Data::Printer! And I'm glad it installed alright in your system :)
06:46 garu azawawi: also, if you have any bug reports or feature requests, you know where to find me ;)
06:48 azawawi garu: yup...
06:49 azawawi garu: but the thing is i did not get a highlighted stuff in my terminal (cmd.exe)
06:49 azawawi garu: s/a /any /
06:49 azawawi http://beta.metacpan.org/module/Data::Printer # looks neat!
06:50 garu yeah, metacpan is awesome
06:51 garu azawawi: hmm... does it install on win32? szabgab and I had some test failures
06:51 azawawi garu: will try it on XP now
06:51 * azawawi launches a slow XP VM :)
06:52 garu thanks... I think I'm in trouble with (-t *STDERR)
06:52 garu it's a test I make for automatic color output
06:53 garu azawawi: use Data::Printer colored => 1; should give you colored output in the terminal
06:53 garu or you can just create a .dataprinter file and add { colored => 1 } to it, so you never have to worry about these things again
06:53 garu :)
06:54 garu azawawi: next stop will be adding colored output to Padre's output window :)
06:55 azawawi garu++
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07:12 garu wow, 4am
07:12 * garu should move closer to greenwich
07:12 garu azawawi: night!
07:12 garu good night everyone :)
07:12 garu &
07:12 azawawi still installing it... takes time
07:12 garu oO
07:12 azawawi good night
07:12 garu azawawi: that long??
07:13 azawawi too many deps
07:13 garu sigh
07:13 azawawi even on strawberry
07:13 garu yeah, a lot of people are complaining
07:13 garu this is weird
07:13 garu I mean
07:13 garu it depends on Moose
07:13 garu (actually, Class::MOP, but it's within the Moose package)
07:14 azawawi aha i see
07:15 garu but other dependencies are either core or depending only on core
07:15 garu by now I thought more people would have Moose already installed
07:16 azawawi it is now installing Moose
07:17 azawawi garu: what are u using as your main dev environment? linux or win32?
07:18 garu azawawi: linux
07:19 azawawi garu: ok good night then... wanted to find someone to test Wx::Scintilla :)
07:19 azawawi garu: on win32
07:19 azawawi garu: i will try to cook linux support today if i can
07:19 garu azawawi: I can try it tomorrow in windows 7
07:19 garu or in windows once you cook it :)
07:19 garu anyway, good night!
07:20 azawawi good night
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07:26 El_Che hello
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08:26 anonymouskermit does padre have an offline option ( forced no networking of any kind )?
08:27 Sewi Hi anonymouskermit
08:27 Sewi Padre is working offline as default
08:29 Sewi You could do "Open URL" from the File menu to open a website or FTP url if you want and you're free to provide a feedback where you learned about Padre at the first start, but these are the only two chances for Padre doing network communication
08:29 anonymouskermit thats not the point, the point is, it could connect, like when it asks how I heard about Padre
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08:31 Sewi There is no option to disable these two items, but you could easily comment them out in your copy, if you want.
08:33 anonymouskermit :D yeah, I could also apply http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14430 myself -- there is something to be said for an idiot safe switch
08:34 Sewi You're welcome to add a trac ticket for such a switch
08:34 anonymouskermit take for example firefox, when in offline mode, trying to do online things, phone-home things, just doesn't work :)
08:35 Sewi Padre's only home phone option is launced at first startup when there is no config and the other one is use-initiated :)
08:37 anonymouskermit don't forget about launching browsers :)
08:38 Sewi Don't know if I'ld trade this as "network activity"...
08:39 Sewi What about the single instance function? It's based on a localhost listener
08:43 anonymouskermit not on my platform
08:43 Sewi Which is your platform?
08:43 anonymouskermit nevermind, it does do the localhost thing -- lame
08:45 szabgab why do we care so much about "offline" mode ?
08:45 bowtie me thinks he tunnels NetBios te he :)
08:48 szabgab actually I 'd like to know what is the underlying reason so we might be able to address that
08:48 Sewi I know that some companies apply very strong restrictions on internet access, but Padre has nearly no network functions and it's still working even if connection tries fail
08:49 anonymouskermit why should an editor, IDE even, make internet connections?
08:49 Sewi anonymouskermit: Because the user requested an action which requires network access.
08:50 anonymouskermit Sewi clever -- padre used to use SingleInstanceChecker
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09:07 bowtie Q how do you tidy a project/session from within Padre, as you can not delete from Project window, thus Padre goes poof when you load a Session which contains a file that does not exist, or I am I being stupid?
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11:25 azawawi hi
11:25 waxhead hey azawawi
11:25 azawawi waxhead: just read your email
11:25 waxhead yeah.. I've been putting off the branching for too long, then I sit down check things out and there's actually a reason or two not to do it :)
11:26 azawawi waxhead: i bumped the Wx dependency
11:26 azawawi waxhead: yeah i think we should release now unless Alias/szabgab say no
11:26 waxhead I think this update from Mark for Wx should address the crashing we are seeing in the File->New->Perl Distriubtion??
11:27 waxhead Not tonight.. tired.. long day.. I'll do it this weekend though.
11:27 azawawi sure
11:27 azawawi tyt
11:27 waxhead I see you're busy with the new scintilla stuff..
11:27 azawawi yup
11:27 waxhead tyt?
11:27 azawawi take your time :)
11:27 El_Che hello
11:27 waxhead how's that going, does it mean we can get a new scintilla into padre?
11:27 waxhead hey El_Che
11:28 azawawi waxhead: in win32 yes
11:28 azawawi waxhead: you install Wx::Scintilla
11:28 azawawi waxhead: and then apply the patch to Padre and you're there
11:28 waxhead is it something we can get padre to detect and load it up instead?
11:29 azawawi yes, we can
11:29 waxhead or should we wait to have it working on all platforms and just move to it once done?
11:29 waxhead what's the gain?  better perl lexer?
11:29 azawawi i was thinking of hiding it behind a configuration flag
11:29 waxhead yeah, not a bad option actually..
11:29 azawawi 10 //  20 ... works
11:29 waxhead cool..
11:30 azawawi http://beta.metacpan.org/mo​dule/Wx::Scintilla#HISTORY
11:30 waxhead I really need to write some code for a change...
11:30 azawawi Wx::Scintilla is actually STC 1.79
11:30 Sewi azawawi: What is this // operator?
11:30 azawawi for now... i have not jumped to the 2.x
11:31 azawawi Sewi: 5.10.x i think
11:31 waxhead is it some defined or?
11:31 El_Che // is nice
11:31 azawawi C-style Logical Defined-Or
11:31 azawawi i think
11:31 waxhead azawawi, how's the wedding plans going...
11:32 azawawi waxhead: on schedule
11:32 Sewi oh, thx
11:32 waxhead I think it's you who mentioned wedding plans some time back..
11:32 waxhead ah.. yep.. got that right..
11:32 waxhead when's the big day?
11:32 azawawi july most probably
11:32 waxhead can't spell your name, but at least I remembered that..
11:32 waxhead wow.. not far away...
11:33 waxhead congrats and all the best... just in case I don't get to say it before the day arrives..
11:33 azawawi Sewi: F2 in Padre for // and you'll get some nice documentation about it
11:33 waxhead I think we should swap that F2 to F1.. it's a better help than the other one is
11:33 El_Che checking for definess instead of true is pretty handy
11:33 El_Che $c //= $d;
11:33 El_Che is a lot nicer than    $c = $d unless defined $c;
11:34 azawawi yup but would it convince people to use 5.10+... no :)
11:34 waxhead OK... time for bed...
11:34 waxhead I can't put this darn book down..
11:35 waxhead if it's not black ops wasting my time, it's this book..
11:35 waxhead promise a release this weekend.
11:35 El_Che which one?
11:35 waxhead Game of Thrones, George RR Martin
11:35 waxhead It's the second book actually...
11:35 waxhead I'm watching the TV series too...
11:36 waxhead downloading it really.. we won't get it in .au for years.. if ever
11:36 El_Che hehe
11:36 El_Che I read his comics
11:37 waxhead he does comics?
11:37 waxhead I've only just discovered his books, but found out they have been out for about 10 years or so
11:38 El_Che Devil's Due published the complete limited series as a graphic novel in June 2004.[2] Following the termination of the partnership between Dabel Brothers and Devil's Due, the graphic novel has been republished in various editions.
11:38 El_Che from wikipedia
11:39 waxhead well there you go..
11:39 waxhead Ok, time to go..
11:39 waxhead night
11:39 El_Che in case you like fantasy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_Gate_Cycle
11:39 El_Che the best series I've read in that genre
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16:14 rindolf Hi all.
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18:07 El_Che http://paste.scsys.co.uk/111098
18:08 El_Che oops
18:08 El_Che ignore
18:08 El_Che (perl solaris buissiness :) )
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22:09 Hyppolit svn: r14516 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14516
22:09 Hyppolit Building the library and share library now works on Linux. XS generation is next.
22:09 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/inc/Module/Build/
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23:35 Hyppolit svn: r14517 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14517
23:35 Hyppolit Linux is building now but an so is missing from blib folder... strange :)
23:35 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/inc/Module/Build/
23:57 Hyppolit svn: r14518 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14518
23:57 Hyppolit Updated POD documentation along with Changes
23:57 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/lib/Wx/

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