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azawawi |
good morning |
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azawawi |
Alias: ping |
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El_Che |
http://bytes.com/topic/perl/an[…]ng-padre-perl-ide |
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El_Che |
someone needing dbi help |
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waxhead |
hey everyone |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r14596 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14596 |
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Hyppolit |
[LaTeX plugin] use lang_perl5_autocomplete_min_chars instead of perl_autocomplete_min_chars |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre-Plugin-LaTeX/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-LaTeX/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-LaTeX/lib/Padre/Document/LaTeX/ |
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hi everyone |
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szabgab |
hi waxhead zenog and everyone else :) |
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waxhead |
hey gabor |
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* waxhead |
is just setting up cpan testing |
| 11:06 |
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waxhead |
I caught mention of the method change in the backlogs... |
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waxhead |
regarding the next release.... I'm happy to get it out there, but given all the changes and the seeming lack of stability, I'm just not sure we're ready.... are me? |
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waxhead |
err... s/me/we/ |
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Sewi |
Push it out as unstable |
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waxhead |
however if we want to release as a development release, how do we mark it like that on cpan? |
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Sewi |
Release 0.86_01 http://perldoc.perl.org/perlmo[…]Version-numbering |
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Sewi |
And you may want to mention the second answer of http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]-of-a-perl-module for "how to install a non indexed version" |
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azawawi |
hi * |
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azawawi |
waxhead: ping |
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waxhead |
azawawi, pong |
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waxhead |
just did a cpan reporter thingy for Wx::Scintilla |
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azawawi |
waxhead: the report is still not uploaded to cpan testers website... |
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waxhead |
only just ran it.. apparently it can take some time... |
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waxhead |
about 5-10 minutes |
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azawawi |
waxhead: i see it the log http://metabase.cpantesters.org/tail/log.txt (search Scintilla) |
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waxhead |
oh.. you see it... sorry |
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azawawi |
i think part of the problem of not getting enough reports through automated stuff |
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azawawi |
is that im not generating Makefile.PL |
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azawawi |
very strange indeed |
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waxhead |
what's strange? |
| 11:32 |
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waxhead |
do you see the version of perl I'm using? |
| 11:32 |
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azawawi |
that im getting reports for 0.06 |
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azawawi |
even though 0.09 is uploaded |
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azawawi |
for a while |
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azawawi |
i flagged 0.06 till 0.08 for deletion |
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waxhead |
cpan picked up 0.09 here |
| 11:34 |
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azawawi |
it should it is released (one day ago according to metacpan :) |
| 11:36 |
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waxhead |
yeah.. just looking at the reports for 0.09 |
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waxhead |
http://matrix.cpantesters.org/[…]Scintilla&maxver= |
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azawawi |
http://matrix.cpantesters.org/[…]la%200.06;maxver= # strange... |
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azawawi |
http://matrix.cpantesters.org/[…]a%200.09;maxver=1 # bad... :) |
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waxhead |
08 passed on win32 |
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azawawi |
activeperl |
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azawawi |
i deleted 0.08 and others and will try to release a modified Wx::Build installation tonight if i could patch it with M:I instead of M:B :) |
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azawawi |
anyway Wx::Scintilla is integrated with Padre through a feature configuration parameter so we should be fine |
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azawawi |
i.e. no side effects |
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waxhead |
yeah, I see that... |
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waxhead |
I'll have to make mention of it in the release announcement |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r14597 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14597 |
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Hyppolit |
Added Makefile.PL support through Module::Build::Compat |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Wx-Scintilla/ |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r14598 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14598 |
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Hyppolit |
Bumped version to 0.10, Perl tidy, Ignore Makefile |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Wx-Scintilla/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/lib/Wx/ |
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shadowpaste |
"szabgab" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "yet another Wx::Scintialla failure" (113 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/113004 |
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szabgab |
azawawi: see above paste and let me know else you'd like to know |
| 12:05 |
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szabgab |
this is the broken Suse I keep reporting about |
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azawawi |
the problem is that i need some files to compile Wx::Scintilla from Wx |
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azawawi |
some binary installations do not have that |
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azawawi |
i think i'll have to bundle it |
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azawawi |
but before that i need to modify my script to utilize Wx::build |
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azawawi |
hopefully now that i have added Makefile.PL generation, i'll get more reports... |
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El_Che |
szabgab: don't test on a broken machine. Will create more problems than it fixes |
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szabgab |
El_Che: it is not totally broken, PAdre runs on it |
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szabgab |
just the threading is crashing it :) |
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szabgab |
and I just need to work on this machine :( |
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El_Che |
ok, I thought you where testing azawawi's work on Wx |
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bowtie |
szabgab, if you use wx 2.8.11 you can get padre to run from ubuntu packages, |
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azawawi |
bowtie: aha, that's part of the problem... binary installations |
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azawawi |
bowtie: sometimes wx binary installation do not have the necessary headers/libs to compile a working Wx::Scintilla |
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waxhead |
azawawi, oh.. I was installing the Crypt::SSLeay in cpan and it detected that I was on a debian system and told me to install the libssl-dev package... |
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waxhead |
either that or it was LWP::Protocol::https |
| 12:20 |
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waxhead |
might want to steal from that? |
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Sewi |
waxhead: Which client did you use? |
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waxhead |
cpan |
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waxhead |
I've setup testing/reporting now |
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Sewi |
Hmm, doesn't work on Ubuntu, would be nice to have because otherwise every system perl upgrade requires reinstall of all CPAN modules :-( |
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szabgab |
El_Che: yeah, I was testing them in case he wants more entry points |
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El_Che |
szabgab: yeah, everyone loves false positives :P |
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szabgab |
yeah :) |
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szabgab |
just wait , I made two more screencasts |
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szabgab |
they are now on the editors desk |
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El_Che |
on the broken suse machine? |
| 12:25 |
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waxhead |
szabgab++ on the screencasts! |
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El_Che |
:) |
| 12:26 |
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szabgab |
El_Che: you are a funny guy |
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szabgab |
but wait, I'll catch up with that beer we had last time |
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El_Che |
First you tap twice on the screen, then recompile the kernel without root right to then ... |
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El_Che |
:) |
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El_Che |
szabgab: are you doing the conferences this year? |
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szabgab |
perl conferences or non-perl ones? |
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El_Che |
both |
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szabgab |
I hope I can make it to YAPC::EU |
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szabgab |
but I don't know about others, I got a bit burned out and ... well I could complain to length about this |
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szabgab |
for now I want to see how the screencasts work out |
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El_Che |
yeah, in that case it's time to relax |
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szabgab |
I was hoping to get more subscribers |
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El_Che |
that's the internet for you |
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szabgab |
eh? |
| 12:29 |
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El_Che |
if they how up in a google search people will watch it |
| 12:29 |
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El_Che |
but I don't know if people subscribe |
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szabgab |
I have now 58, I hope to reach 100 by the end of the month |
| 12:29 |
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El_Che |
that's pretty good |
| 12:29 |
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szabgab |
I have some numbers from other channels |
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szabgab |
with much higher numbers |
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szabgab |
but I think people first need to see real activity on the channel |
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szabgab |
there is a guy who has 1.5 M subscribers |
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szabgab |
but he is making action movies :) |
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El_Che |
kahn academy? |
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szabgab |
oh, here is the link with the top channels: http://www.youtube.com/channels?s=ms&t=a&g=0 |
| 12:36 |
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szabgab |
that link can make you waste a lot of time :) |
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El_Che |
yeah, I recognize the talking orange |
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azawawi |
waxhead: will check it out, thanks |
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* azawawi |
work & |
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zenog |
szabgab: I really liked your latest videos, but I am already subscribed to your channel. So, no new subscribers here ... |
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szabgab |
zenog: I am glad you liked them, then tweet them, link to them, blog them force other people to watch them :) |
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zenog |
szabgab: Already happened as well ;-) |
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szabgab |
and if you have other ideas on how to promote them, then please do so and let me also know |
| 13:37 |
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zenog |
szabgab: content, content, content |
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szabgab |
yep, 2 more are on the way |
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zenog |
szabgab: And do not expect too much, it is programming, not action movies ;-) |
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szabgab |
and if I can get rid of the client I have then I might have more time :) |
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szabgab |
zenog: you don't know it yet, do you :) |
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zenog |
szabgab: Dancer is quite hip these days (even though we may be biased here), so it may be fun to see a short screencast on that? |
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zenog |
szabgab: This may attract the web programming hipster crowd ... |
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szabgab |
zenog: yes, that's being prepared |
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szabgab |
I just have to upgrade the Padre-on-Strawberry package for that so it will take 1-2 more weeks |
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szabgab |
and the have a broken Dancer on CPAN right now |
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szabgab |
anyway |
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El_Che |
put a dancing jesus in the page |
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* El_Che |
wonders how many people will get the reference |
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zenog |
szabgab: Today's release was broken? |
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szabgab |
zenog: I did not know there was a Dancer relase today |
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szabgab |
I was talking about an earlier one |
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zenog |
El_Che: Which page? |
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El_Che |
your youtube channel |
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bowtie |
azawawi, I copied file and run, works ok now :) |
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bowtie |
azawawi, Opps, more info, built against cpan Alien::wxWidgets, and Wx |
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bowtie |
wx v2.8.12 |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r14599 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14599 |
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Hyppolit |
[LaTeX plugin] improved autocompletion for environments |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre-Plugin-LaTeX/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-LaTeX/lib/Padre/Document/ |
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rindolf |
Hi all. |
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rindolf |
The /topic is empty. |
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szabgab |
not for me |
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rindolf |
szabgab: well, it is here. |
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rindolf |
szabgab: probably a different server. |
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bowtie |
happened to me to the other day ( no topic ) |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r14600 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14600 |
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Hyppolit |
svn:ignore |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/ |
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szabgab |
blog and screencast on using the command line debugger of perl: http://bit.ly/lUsSQ1 |
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szabgab |
if anyone of you is using reddit, please post the link to the blog entry |
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El_Che |
perl debugger? |
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El_Che |
nice |
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El_Che |
thx gabor |
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rindolf |
szabgab++ |
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rindolf |
szabgab: I'm debugging a bug in perl -d now. |
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rindolf |
szabgab: already written a test. |
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rindolf |
http://rt.perl.org/rt3/Ticket/[…]lay.html?id=92906 - this one. sprout already did the bisecting. |
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rindolf |
Which I'm doing now. |
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El_Che |
szabgab: just a style detail: |
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El_Che |
localhost as host? |
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szabgab |
yeah I know :) |
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El_Che |
szabgab: it was very good! |
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El_Che |
you'll laugh, but I *never* used the l command |
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El_Che |
thx |
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El_Che |
an other cosmetic remark: smile when saying good bye |
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szabgab |
you are welcome :) |
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szabgab |
:) |
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szabgab |
:) |
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szabgab |
good bye :) |
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El_Che |
you should know that as a deciple of the the black art of marketing :) |
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szabgab |
the funny thing is that I am quite ok talking in front of a bunch of people eg. fosdem |
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szabgab |
but I get neverous infront of the off-line camera |
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El_Che |
no people laughing reassuring everything is ok |
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El_Che |
you are the funny guy type of public speaker |
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szabgab |
I hope with time I'll get used to the camera and then it will improve |
| 20:36 |
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szabgab |
but as of now I am still nerveous |
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El_Che |
it's pretty good |
| 20:36 |
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El_Che |
really |
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El_Che |
I am just nitpicking |
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szabgab |
one thing that I noticed that is quite broken, |
| 20:36 |
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El_Che |
the typing refresh? |
| 20:37 |
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szabgab |
is that I recoreded the text part to fit the youtube size |
| 20:37 |
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szabgab |
but then because of the other video the whole thing got smaller |
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szabgab |
and here are black stripes on both sides |
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szabgab |
we'll have to figure it out with my son, who is doing the actually editing of the videos |
| 20:38 |
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El_Che |
i see it |
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El_Che |
something stopping for higher quality uploads? |
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El_Che |
720 or higher? |
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El_Che |
or are you getting the highest quality of the camera already (webcam?) |
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szabgab |
I think this time KDEnlive refused to render at 4000K, if I understand the problem |
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El_Che |
i c |
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szabgab |
yeah I am now using a webcam though we have some more professional equipment as well |
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El_Che |
anyway, the text is good readable |
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El_Che |
how do you record the menu? |
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El_Che |
the console |
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El_Che |
I mean |
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szabgab |
the place where I type? |
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El_Che |
the debugger |
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szabgab |
I use recordmydesktop |
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El_Che |
you draw a rectangle around the terminal, I see |
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szabgab |
it is a command line application with a gui wrapper in linux |
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El_Che |
it's a good touch to have your face on the corner |
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El_Che |
and I like the duration |
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El_Che |
deep enough but too long |
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El_Che |
so you can quickly watch it at work |
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El_Che |
or between changing channels or whatever |
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El_Che |
is it done on purpose? |
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szabgab |
the length? |
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szabgab |
well, the limit of youtube is 15 min anyway so it could not be much longer |
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szabgab |
but yes I try to be at a consumable length |
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El_Che |
I have seen longer tutorials |
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El_Che |
but probably elsewhere |
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szabgab |
the "partners" of youtube have no limits |
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szabgab |
but that requires tons of very good content with lots of subscribers and lots of people watching the videos |
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szabgab |
I see I have some of the screencasts in HD |
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El_Che |
now that linux finally runs flash fullscreen, hD is nice |
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szabgab |
so it is doable, we just need to figue out how to make it work for us |
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szabgab |
anyway, I need to go to sleep |
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El_Che |
yeah |
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El_Che |
likewise |
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szabgab |
good bye :) |
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Hyppolit |
svn: r14601 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14601 |
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Hyppolit |
Update the messages.pot file |
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Hyppolit |
trunk/Padre/share/locale/ |
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