Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2011-06-16

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05:38 Hyppolit svn: r14602 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14602
05:38 Hyppolit Sync to FBP::Perl 0.39
05:38 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder​/lib/Padre/Plugin/FormBuilder/
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06:14 Hyppolit svn: r14603 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14603
06:14 Hyppolit Tweaks to support the generation of Frames and Panels as well
06:14 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder​/lib/Padre/Plugin/FormBuilder/
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06:41 azawawi good morning everyone
06:42 Sewi gm azawawi
06:42 Alias Hi
06:42 * Alias has upgraded the formbuilder chain so it can support the generation of non-dialogs
06:42 Alias So if we want, we should be able to maintain inline tools and such as well
06:42 Alias Like the directory tree, or what have you
06:43 Alias Or other future more complex tools
06:43 azawawi gui wizard?
06:44 azawawi same as wxformbuilder?
06:44 azawawi or we still do XRC/XML -> Perl ?
06:45 Sewi Is there any better way to update a Padre::DB value than ->do(UPDATE session SET last_update=time WHERE id=?,$id) ?
06:46 azawawi waxhead: i just found the libdev-* debian detection code in Crypt::SSLeay. (http://beta.metacpan.org/source/NA​NIS/Crypt-SSLeay-0.58/Makefile.PL). I'll try it. Thanks
06:49 * azawawi is going to learn 'make' again :)
06:50 azawawi Alias: i seem to be moving toward M:I after trying M:B :)
06:50 azawawi Alias: upgrading M:B on older perls takes time and deps and increases failure rate
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07:02 Alias Yup
07:02 Alias M:I is almost always better as long as the author is diligent
07:03 Alias azawawi: wxFormBuilder native XML save file --> Perl
07:03 Alias It's only supported full dialog
07:03 Alias Now also supports panels
07:03 Alias I want to do the fast find clean up with it
07:07 azawawi Converting Wx::build Ext::... code into M:I should be easy right?
07:11 azawawi Mark Dootson has made great progress in getting Wx::Scintilla to work over multiple platforms
07:12 azawawi mdootson++
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07:22 Hyppolit svn: r14604 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14604
07:22 Hyppolit Some final tweaks to get this working again
07:22 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder​/lib/Padre/Plugin/FormBuilder/
07:23 Alias Righto, I'm out of here, later.
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09:31 Hyppolit svn: r14605 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14605
09:31 Hyppolit Removed obsolete padre_wx_scintilla.patch. It is now integrated with Padre via feature_wx_scintilla configuration parameter.
09:31 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/
09:48 Hyppolit svn: r14606 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14606
09:48 Hyppolit Added inc/Module/Build/Scintilla/$YourOS.pm. (Mark Dootson)++
09:48 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/inc/Module/Build/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/inc/Module/Build/Scintilla/
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10:01 * azawawi home to fix things &
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10:17 Hyppolit svn: r14607 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14607
10:17 Hyppolit OS compatibility patch (Big thanks to Mark Dootson++):
10:17 Hyppolit CentOS 3 32 bit - custom built Perl
10:17 Hyppolit CentOS 5 32/64 bit - custom built Perl
10:17 Hyppolit Fedora 14 32 Bit - system Perl & Wx
10:17 Hyppolit Ubuntu 10/11 32 Bit - system Perl & Wx
10:17 Hyppolit Max OS X Snow Leopard - 32 bit custom Perl
10:17 Hyppolit XP 32 bit custom Perl & Wx
10:17 Hyppolit Vista 32/64 bit custom Perl & Wx
10:17 Hyppolit Win 7 64 bit custom Perl & Wx
10:17 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/inc/Module/Build/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scintilla/src/
10:17 Hyppolit svn: r14608 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14608
10:17 Hyppolit Perl tidy
10:17 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/inc/Module/Build/Scintilla/
10:20 waxhead azawawi, want me to try installing again?
10:20 Hyppolit svn: r14609 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14609
10:20 Hyppolit Bumped version to 0.11. Updated Changes.
10:20 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/lib/Wx/
10:21 azawawi waxhead: let me try it first :)
10:21 waxhead ok...
10:21 waxhead I guess you need to bump the version on cpan?
10:22 * azawawi testing begins
10:27 azawawi strawberry with cream + gcc = sUcCeSs :)
10:27 waxhead cool...
10:28 waxhead oh.. how did you go with the detection of the distribution and suggesting the dev files to down load?
10:28 azawawi will add it now
10:28 waxhead I via the backlog at work you found the thing I was refering to in Crypt::SSLeay
10:29 waxhead I can't do irc at work, so have to watch with frustration using the irclog
10:29 azawawi waxhead: use mibbit
10:29 azawawi waxhead: or is it the policy?
10:29 waxhead policy
10:29 waxhead and a very strict net-nanny
10:32 * azawawi ubuntu 10.10 64-bit
10:33 azawawi 64-bit croaks... normal :)
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10:36 * azawawi ubuntu 11.04 32-bit
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10:47 azawawi waxhead: im going to delay that check until i get more test results
10:48 azawawi waxhead: wish me luck in the furniture-shopping-spree... :)
10:51 Hyppolit svn: r14610 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14610
10:51 Hyppolit Updated 0.11 release date in Changes. Happy testing :)
10:51 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/
10:57 * azawawi furniture & :)
11:05 rindolf Hi all.
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11:48 waxhead azawawi.. good luck with the furniture shopping!  :)
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12:32 El_Che szabgab: your screencast hase been pimped in planet.grep.be
12:32 El_Che (belgian opensource planet)
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12:40 szabgab El_Che: thanks!
12:43 szabgab it was also echoed on the ironman, let's see how many new subscribers will it bring?
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13:13 xenon hi to all. I am trying to set up/import a perl project within padre (.084/Ubuntu10.10).  Can somebody point me into the right direction?
13:13 zenog xenon: What is the problem?
13:13 El_Che just open the main script
13:13 El_Che it autodetects projects
13:13 zenog xenon: There are not really explicit projects ... but it should work nonetheless, as El_Che said.
13:15 xenon hm. I set the "default Project Folder" to my Project folder. But no files are showing up. I have not a default directory structure in it ...
13:16 zenog xenon: Try to open a file from your project.
13:16 xenon done ...
13:16 zenog xenon: Have you activated "View"->"Show Project Browser/Tree"?
13:17 xenon yes. only the "search" is showing up.
13:17 Sewi Your Project has to have a Makefile.PL or padre.yml in the project root dir
13:17 xenon ah ...
13:17 xenon how do I set up the padre.yml ? just touch ?=
13:17 zenog Sewi: Are there plans to support DistZilla's dist.ini files?
13:18 zenog Sewi: Are there particular reasons why Makefile.PL or padre.yml are needed?
13:19 Sewi zenog: Actually, also dist.ini and Build.PL work and some VCS files are also detected.
13:21 zenog Sewi: ah okay.
13:21 xenon Sewi: thank you for the hint.
13:21 xenon works
13:21 Sewi You're welcome (both)
13:22 zenog xenon: Cool. Have fun with Padre!
13:22 zenog Sewi: Do you know an answer for the second question? ;-)
13:24 Sewi Yes, because I know them from brain and always have to look for the other filenames :-)
13:24 Hyppolit # 1166 :  Project/Directory Browser doesn't recognize new top level directories (closed defect) by zenogantner  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1166#comment:2 ]
13:24 Hyppolit # 1208 :  Directory/Project browser: File deletion does not trigger rescan (closed defect) by zenogantner  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1208#comment:1 ]
13:26 Hyppolit # 1141 :  Project browser does not default to the default directory in the configuration (reopened defect) by zenogantner  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1141#comment:5 ]
13:26 zenog Sewi: No, what I mean, why doesn't Padre accept it if I tell it to use a certain directory as project directory?
13:27 zenog Sewi: Independently of what's in there.
13:27 Sewi Oh, sorry, I don't know
13:33 zenog Sewi: okay ... knowing an answer, and fixing it, would possibly avoid some questions here - I guess we had already several new users asking the same thing here ...
13:38 Sewi yes :)
13:38 Sewi We might want a "New -> Project" option which touch'es an padre.yml
13:39 xenon Yes ... yes ... that would be hm ... easier to reme,ber than touching am padre.yml file ...
13:43 bowtie why do we not have a header in our ymal files, such as %YAML 1.2
13:43 Sewi Why should we have?
13:44 Hyppolit svn: r14611 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14611
13:44 Hyppolit Add File -> New -> Copy of current document
13:44 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
13:44 bowtie Sewi, if we have headers in perl files and html. dtd etc, why do we deliberately not in ymal
13:45 bowtie Sewi, headers are part of convention art they, or are we above that?
13:45 bowtie opps arn't
13:47 bowtie Sewi, or in the case of ymal, you can check for validity against header if you only had one!
13:47 Sewi bowtie: I didn't find a header in any YAML file I just checked which were written by the YAML modules.
13:48 Sewi Perl files have no header .-)
13:48 bowtie Sewi, what about shebang and strictures then
13:49 xenon shebang is a shell directive ...
13:49 Sewi it is, it's some kind of bash header and not used on Windows and non-*ix systems.
13:58 bowtie Sewi, “YAML” Directives is a good practice, as assumption is the mother of all *******
14:03 Hyppolit svn: r14612 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14612
14:03 Hyppolit Fix session last-update bug
14:03 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
14:04 Sewi bowtie: How/why should we add headers if the "official" modules don't write them?
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14:05 Sewi Wikipedia also doesn't mention YAML headers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YAML
14:12 bowtie Sewi, I was unaware the code generators don't write by default, opps
14:14 xenon afaik the header is "---\n", the YAML tag is not an default ( the header shuld be a 10kb random binary dump because far to many people think because they can read yaml the can edit ist ... ).
14:15 Sewi --- is used to start a new block and the first block needs this, too, so it could be seen like some kind of header.
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14:21 bowtie Sewi, just tested r14612, works :)
14:21 Hyppolit Changeset #14612 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14612
14:31 Sewi thanks
14:33 bowtie Sewi, I tested with a plugin to view config.db, would like a copy ?
14:37 Sewi Add it to svn
14:39 bowtie Sewi, I can't i only have commit to Padre-Plugin-Cookbook, and this has a test name at present, I have not decided on final name yet
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15:18 Hyppolit svn: r14613 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14613
15:18 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
15:18 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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16:24 wallasey Wx::Scintilla 0.11
16:25 wallasey Fresh Ubuntu 10.10 64 bit
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16:25 wallasey Install wxWidgets dev libraries
16:25 wallasey All builds and passes tests OK for Me ????
16:38 bowtie Alias: rolled FormBuilder back to r14345, as r14602 generates this error:
16:38 Hyppolit Changeset #14345 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14345
16:38 bowtie Can't locate object method "project" via package "FBP" at /usr/src/Padre/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder​/lib/Padre/Plugin/FormBuilder/Dialog.pm line 93.
16:39 bowtie can any body else confirm, or other wise?
16:39 bowtie Alias: Q did you test this r14602 ??
16:39 Hyppolit Changeset #14602 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14602
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17:00 wallasey Looking at prior posted failure output for Wx::Scintilla
17:01 wallasey seems like simple cases of dev libraries not installed on Ubuntu
17:02 wallasey Simplest way to get dev libraries installed on Ubuntu is to install the Glade Interface Designer
17:03 zenog szabgab: Now at 64 subscribers ;-)
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17:26 rindolf Hi all.
17:27 zenog hi rindolf
17:28 rindolf zenog: what's up?
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17:32 zenog rindolf: The usual ;-)
17:41 bowtie Alias, Opps, I forgot to CPAN FBP & FBP::Perl
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19:03 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/wiki/PadrePluginDialog changed by bowtie
19:04 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/wiki/PadrePluginDialog changed by bowtie
19:05 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wi​ki/PadrePluginCookbookRecipie04 changed by bowtie
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19:19 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wi​ki/PadrePluginCookbookRecipie04 changed by bowtie
19:20 bowtie Sewi, just for you. http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wi​ki/PadrePluginCookbookRecipie04
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20:33 rindolf szabgab: here?
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