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05:34 szabgab El_Che: pls op me and my friend Hyppolit
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05:42 wallasey szabgab: I have amendments that remove Padre dependency on Win32::API  - Padre passes all tests on 64 bit windows
05:43 wallasey As this is a bit of a change, would I be better creating a separate branch for commit
05:43 wallasey say Win32-API-XS
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06:12 szabgab wallasey: I don't that is needed but you might want to discuss it with Alias
06:12 szabgab I don't *think* ..
06:13 szabgab OTOH you can just go ahead and he will complain loudly if he dislikes it :)
06:14 wallasey I think I might just go ahead after I've tested that there are no ill effects building on other platforms. It does not touch many files so a revert would be simple.
06:16 wallasey Then I can do PPMs for all ActivePerl platforms
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06:38 garu szabgab: I think I fixed Data::Printer on windows. Can you please download the github code and give it a try? I'll push to CPAN as soon as I have confirmation
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07:21 sugar hi all
07:21 Sewi hi
07:21 sugar i have some problem
07:21 garu tell us about it
07:21 sugar if ia type 'padre some/file'
07:22 sugar it will be opened in new window, not in new tab
07:22 sugar how to open it in new tab?
07:22 Sewi Set it in the preferences :-)
07:23 sugar sorry in firest case i don't found this option
07:23 sugar thanx
07:23 Sewi Preferences -> Behavior -> 7th option from the top
07:23 sugar =)
07:23 Sewi No need to apologise, I just had to power up my dev PC for a more specific answer :)
07:26 sugar and another question,
07:27 sugar how to highlight keywords in perl in another color?
07:27 sugar not blue
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07:28 Sewi You could set up you own coloring scheme: http://padre.perlide.org/trac/w​iki/Features/SyntaxHighlighting
07:29 Hyppolit svn: r14725 | markd++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14725
07:29 Hyppolit Remove dependency on Win32::API to allow 64 bit Win build.
07:29 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Util/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ trunk/Padre/script/ trunk/Padre/winxs/
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07:34 sugar ok, thanx
07:45 Hyppolit # 101 :  syntax highlighting gone wrong: dor (//) not understood (closed defect) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/101#comment:8 ]
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07:46 azawawi good morning
07:46 sugar good
07:46 zenog azawawi: good morning
07:47 azawawi szabgab: please review http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/305
07:47 sugar i don't found javascript description in default.yaml styles file
07:48 Hyppolit # 305 :  Make it extreamly easy to add a syntax highlighter manage them (new enhancement) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/305#comment:2 ]
07:49 sugar how to change javascript highlighting in padre?
07:50 sugar it is very poor
07:50 sugar http://imageshack.us/photo​/my-images/17/padrejs.png/
07:50 Hyppolit # 745 :  [Perl 5 syntax highlighting] delimiter used in extended regular expressions displays wrong (new defect) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/745#comment:2 ]
07:51 azawawi sugar: edit default.yml?
07:53 Hyppolit # 751 :  Proper XS lexing/highlighting (new enhancement) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/751#comment:3 ]
07:53 sugar but there is no javascript section
07:54 Hyppolit # 913 :  almost no syntax highlighting for C code (new defect) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/913#comment:4 ]
07:55 Hyppolit # 914 :  Syntax highlighting for POD files (new enhancement) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/914#comment:4 ]
07:56 Hyppolit # 916 :  Perl syntax highlighting: highlight interpolated variables and special characters in strings (new enhancement) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/916#comment:3 ]
07:56 sugar azawawi:  that section should i edit?
07:57 Hyppolit # 1215 :  Cannot change the syntax highlighter of Perl 6 (new defect) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1215#comment:1 ]
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08:00 Hyppolit # 993 :  BibTeX files: Scintilla is not shown as highlighter in the status bar (new defect) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/993#comment:2 ]
08:01 Hyppolit # 1011 :  Syntax highlighting for Perl examples inside POD (new enhancement) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1011#comment:2 ]
08:01 zenog azawawi: Can this be fixed by just adding the keywords to default.yml?
08:01 sugar azawawi: ok, another question, which man or howto should i read to understand how to add custom javasript highlighting?
08:01 Hyppolit # 1028 :  Syntax highlighting in Padre using Colorer (new enhancement) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1028#comment:2 ]
08:02 azawawi let me see
08:05 Hyppolit # 1233 :  syntax highlighting for specific heredocs (new enhancement) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1233#comment:1 ]
08:06 sugar anybody know how to add custom syntax highlighting of js to Padre?
08:06 azawawi basically javascript, c are missing
08:06 azawawi from default.yml
08:06 sugar but how, there is now js section
08:06 azawawi let me explain what is happening first
08:07 azawawi take a look at the SYNOPSIS section in http://beta.metacpan.org/module/Wx::Scintilla
08:07 azawawi you'll see SetForegroundStyle
08:07 azawawi sorry StyleSetForeground
08:08 azawawi in Padre, we go through default.yml file and look for the constant
08:08 azawawi which is defined in Wx::wxSTC...
08:08 azawawi so if you need to add Javascript support
08:09 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Plugins changed by zenogantner
08:09 azawawi you'll need to read http://api.metacpan.org/source/AZAWAWI/​Wx-Scintilla-0.15/share/doc/varwrap.pod
08:10 Hyppolit # 993 :  BibTeX files: Scintilla is not shown as highlighter in the status bar (new defect) by azawawi  new attachment [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/993#comment:2 ]
08:10 azawawi those variables are wrapped and find where Javascript vars are
08:10 azawawi take a look at the perl: section
08:10 azawawi and add a similar one for Javascript
08:11 azawawi and add Javascript vars
08:11 azawawi should work
08:11 azawawi if it doesnt work, contact Padre support :)
08:12 zenog azawawi: Maybe I will play with default.yml and C keywords tonight. No time now ;-)
08:12 El_Che yeah\
08:13 El_Che went yesterday to a perl monger meeting/restaurent
08:13 El_Che ddn was there
08:13 El_Che out dutch translator
08:13 zenog El_Che: cool
08:13 zenog El_Che: I met him at FOSDEM, right? He was also at the dinner.
08:13 azawawi zenog: cool
08:14 El_Che zenog: idd
08:14 El_Che wendy and lies were there as well
08:14 azawawi zenog: if you dont find them there (varwrap.pod). Please take a look at SciLexer.h in Wx::Scintilla
08:15 sugar azawawi: ok, thanx for for explanation, i'll try to add js
08:16 azawawi sugar: no problem
08:17 azawawi wallasey: ping
08:18 wallasey azawawi: hi
08:18 azawawi wallasey: what's your plan regarding r14725?
08:18 Hyppolit Changeset #14725 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14725
08:20 wallasey azawawi: It allows you to build and run Padre on a 64bit Perl on 64bit Windows
08:20 azawawi wallasey: XS module?
08:20 wallasey Yep - had to be
08:21 azawawi one more thing, what about RegexEditor.pm?
08:21 azawawi warnings there when Win32::API is removed?
08:23 wallasey azawawi: I wasn't sure - didn't want to remove SIG trap in case it is currently catching and discarding something else
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08:23 azawawi wallasey: im generating an svn blame to figure out what we meant by that...
08:23 azawawi wallasey: s/we/I/ :)
08:24 azawawi Eclipse Indigo is out with SWT WindowBuilder...
08:25 wallasey azawawi: The same SIG trap was in Padre::Util::Win32 where Win32::API functions were actually caused
08:25 wallasey caused == called
08:26 azawawi shouldnt be related to Win32::API. i think i meant win32
08:27 azawawi aha http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/10532
08:27 bowtie morning all
08:29 Hyppolit svn: r14726 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14726
08:29 Hyppolit Fix typo. Removed TODO
08:29 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
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08:31 Hyppolit svn: r14727 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14727
08:31 Hyppolit some plans for Padre on Strawberry
08:31 Hyppolit trunk/tools/
08:32 * azawawi builds Padre to test the new Win32 XS module :)
08:33 azawawi wallasey: Prototype mismatch: sub main::prompt: none vs ($;$) at C:/Strawberry/perl/lib/Ex tUtils/MakeMaker.pm line 202
08:34 wallasey azawawi: You take note of warnings!!  :-)
08:34 azawawi szabgab: ping
08:34 azawawi wallasey: :)
08:34 azawawi wallasey: just reporting it
08:36 wallasey azawawi:I know. I have to read ExtUtils::MakeMaker to understand where this is coming from.
08:37 wallasey I'm just finishing Wx::Scintilla PPMs for MacOSX then I can release Padre + Wx::Scintilla on the PPM world
08:39 azawawi wallasey: use M:I?
08:43 wallasey azawawi: I'll have to read M:I pod on building sub dirs
08:44 azawawi wallasey++  # Padre + Wx::Scintilla on MacOSX and 64-bit windows
08:47 szabgab wallasey: pong
08:48 azawawi wallasey: im going to start another branch for wx::scintilla to try the upgrade to 2.27. Should not affect your work. Any advice?
08:49 azawawi wallasey: im basing it on wxwidgets 2.9.1 and going forward.
08:49 azawawi wallasey: i think the 64-bit fix you applied is already in wxwidgets 2.9.1, right?
08:51 azawawi szabgab: im #242 on http://stats.cpantesters.org/testers.html :)
08:51 Hyppolit # 242 :  perl does not close (closed defect) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/242#comment:1 ]
08:51 azawawi hehe, stupid Hyppolit
08:53 azawawi szabgab: and that's the first test run i tried. Hopefully the my name + nick will show up... this page needs to be updated more frequently
08:54 wallasey azawawi: 2.9.2-rc1 released tomorrow or Saturday. I'll fix up an Alien::wxWidgets dist so you can build it
08:54 szabgab barbie told me it is updated every 4 ours or so
08:56 wallasey virtually all updates to 2.8 branch are backports so 2.9.2 should compile OK
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09:05 Hyppolit # 1235 :  customizable external terminal (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1235 ]
09:07 azawawi wallasey: cool
09:09 Hyppolit # 1235 :  customizable external terminal (new enhancement) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1235#comment:1 ]
09:23 bowtie azawawi, where do i find a key to these wxSTC_PL_POD_VERB, my be a default such as perldoc, where is "semicolon" ?
09:23 bowtie azawawi, your W-S pod history cool
09:27 trash80 azawawi: hi, can you explain me little bit more what you have on the mind? i mean your reaction on my ticket 1235
09:28 trash80 i don't understand whad do you mean
09:28 trash80 *what
09:30 * trash80 brb
09:30 azawawi trash80: command line use to execute gow terminal for example and wait for instance
09:30 azawawi trash80: take a look http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14721
09:32 azawawi wallasey: cool
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09:32 azawawi bowtie: there is not enough documentation regarding that
09:33 azawawi bowtie: all the constants live in http://padre.perlide.org/trac/browse​r/trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scintilla/sr​c/stc/scintilla/include/SciLexer.h
09:33 azawawi bowtie: just add Wx::wx prefix
09:34 bowtie azawawi, I have a table i did in local trac which is based on perldoc, but missing wxSTC, if you want?
09:35 azawawi bowtie: cool, where?
09:36 bowtie azawawi, make a blank in you syntax page and I will add
09:36 bowtie opps blank page
09:40 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/w​iki/Features/SyntaxHighlighting changed by bowtie
09:41 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki​/Features/SyntaxHighlightingTable changed by bowtie
09:42 bowtie azawawi, SyntaxHighlightingTable
09:46 bowtie azawawi, do you want to add the relevant wxSTC codes to table please.
09:46 azawawi bowtie: right now im busy working on the 2.27 upgrade :)
09:47 zenog azawawi++
09:47 azawawi bowtie: if you document them in wiki, i will be able in include in Wx::Scintilla::Manual :)
09:47 azawawi zenog: thanks
09:48 azawawi now HD ready or full HD... that's the question :)
09:48 bowtie azawawi, where is the key to wxSTC codes
09:48 azawawi http://www.yellowbrain.com/stc/varwrap.html  # fairly old
09:49 azawawi http://padre.perlide.org/trac/browse​r/trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scintilla/sr​c/stc/scintilla/include/SciLexer.h # the source
09:51 sugar azawawi: i'm not seeing javascript vars here: http://api.metacpan.org/source/AZAWAWI/​Wx-Scintilla-0.15/share/doc/varwrap.pod
09:51 azawawi sugar: i think it is included in the HTML lexer
09:52 azawawi sugar: since you do not have JavaScript on its own
09:53 sugar there is one html var:  wxSTC_LEX_HTML
09:53 bowtie can someone who knows the codes please update, thanks
09:54 azawawi http://padre.perlide.org/trac/brow​ser/trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scintill​a/src/scintilla/include/SciLexer.h
09:57 azawawi sugar: i only know that javascript is embedded in there
09:58 azawawi sugar: not sure how to use at the moment
09:58 * azawawi TV shopping & :)
10:08 Hyppolit # 1236 :  test expects directory Documents in home directory (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1236 ]
10:10 sugar as i understand the this is js: http://padre.perlide.org/trac/browse​r/trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scintilla/sr​c/scintilla/include/SciLexer.h#L228
10:35 trash80 azawawi: mmm, but gow is somethink like cygwin on msys, there is bash.exe binary for wind0ze.
10:36 trash80 *or
10:42 trash80 probably i'am don't wrote the description well... in cygwin, msys and gow is bash.exe I mean something like one edit box in settings where i can write the the terminal binary, or binary with full path. Maybe with possibility to add some parameters.
11:09 Hyppolit svn: r14728 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14728
11:09 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
11:09 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
11:15 Sewi szabgab: Someone did memory profiling for padre a long time ago. I checked the irc logs but didn't find it :-(
12:05 Hyppolit svn: r14729 | markd++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14729
12:05 Hyppolit Make Win32 manifest architecture independent
12:05 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/win32/
12:14 CargoIT i just discovered that is possible meeting a guy who has got a blackberry and don't know what QWERTY means... am i too much nerd or people are not enough?
12:18 bowtie CargoIT, or AZERTY,
12:19 bowtie even
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12:22 bowtie CargoIT, QWERTY made famous by the Remington No. 2 circa 1878, now that's nerdy :)
12:43 szabgab Sewi: thanks
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13:09 bowtie Q how do I make $statusbar->say('Hello World!'); work in a Plugin ?
13:09 Sewi $main->something
13:10 Sewi $main->info
13:10 bowtie Sewi, $main->statusbar->say('Hello World!'); fails,
13:11 Sewi It's up to the users preferences if this goes to the status bar or to a popup
13:12 Sewi Try $main->info('Hello World')
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13:15 bowtie Sewi,  thanks that works, :)
13:16 Sewi :)
13:16 Sewi But I don't expect you to know all "main" methods, it feels like the worst file within the whole Padre source.
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13:19 bowtie Sewi, I have updated Cookbook recipe04, so that it cleans session, session files & History, have a look, ps if your history is v-large it might take awhile
13:20 bowtie Sewi,  i will read POD for Padre::Main no thanks
13:20 bowtie opps no -> now
13:21 Sewi Don't try it, it's not worth reading the whole POD and many methods are not POD'ed.
13:21 Sewi I won't try it, because loading my whole Padre history into memory would kill my computer :)
13:22 bowtie Sewi, but now you can clean all the duplicates
13:23 Sewi I can't load it :)
13:23 Sewi But Padre should clean up such data itself :-(
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13:24 bowtie Sewi, yes, when P-P-C-R4 is working, you can take some of the code into trunk
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14:07 zenog Padre crash: Gtk:ERROR:/build/buildd/gtk+2.0-2.20.1/gtk/gtkfi​lesystemmodel.c:746:gtk_file_system_model_sort: assertion failed: (r == n_visible_rows)
14:08 bowtie zenog, I get gtk errors on ubuntu to
14:11 zenog bowtie: Problem is, I cannot really reproduce them consistently.
14:11 zenog bowtie: 32 or 64 bit?
14:13 bowtie zenog, ubuntu 11.04 i386 compatibility mode ( no unity, video to old )
14:17 zenog hm
14:18 zenog I have the suspicion it happens only on 32-bit Ubuntu. I have 10.04.
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14:56 zenog The status of Padre packages for Windows seems to have improved a lot in the last time. azawawi++ szabgab++ mdootson++ whoeveriforgottomention++
14:57 Sewi karma whoeveriforgottomention
14:57 Hyppolit Karma of whoeveriforgottomention is 0
14:57 Sewi Hyppolit, are you sure?
14:57 zenog whoeveriforgottomention++
14:57 zenog karma whoeveriforgottomention
14:57 Hyppolit Karma of whoeveriforgottomention is 1
14:58 zenog There we go, Hyppolit is a computer scientist. Starts counting at 0.
14:58 Sewi :)
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16:09 zenog &
16:18 zenog re
16:18 zenog One question about naming modules for CPAN: Where would you put modules that read a certain file format?
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