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IRC log for #padre, 2011-06-24

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08:45 Hyppolit svn: r14730 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14730
08:45 Hyppolit [YAML plugin] initial version (just adds comment support)
08:45 Hyppolit trunk/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/share/styles/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-LaTeX/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/lib/Padre/Plugin/
08:46 Hyppolit svn: r14731 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14731
08:46 Hyppolit [YAML plugin] remove unnecessary .build dir
08:46 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-YAML/
08:47 zenog YAML plugin uploaded to PAUSE, now back to working on YAML files with Shift-Control-C support ;-)
08:48 zenog oops, before that, I should revert some changes ...
08:48 Sewi What does Shift-Ctrl-C do?
08:53 zenog toggle comment
08:53 Sewi oh, yes :)
08:55 Hyppolit svn: r14732 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14732
08:55 Hyppolit revert some local (and unfinished) changes that slipped into the last commit
08:55 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/share/styles/
08:58 zenog note to self: use svn status more often
09:09 zenog Syntax highlighting for C/C++ now works a little bit better ;-)
09:10 zenog ... will commit soon ...
09:10 El_Che a step closer to world domination
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09:12 Sewi El_Che: Remember D.O.T.T.? World domination plans often don't have a happy end :-)
09:15 El_Che I take the Borg as a more fitting role model :)
09:16 Sewi Beware of Janeway ;-)
09:20 zenog Is there a reason why bold type fonts are never used for Perl syntax highlighting in Padre?
09:20 El_Che like errors?
09:21 zenog For YAML and CSS is is used.
09:21 zenog share/styles/default.yml
09:29 Sewi Padre had some *fish SVN statistics, but I don't find the link. anybody remembers?
09:33 zenog What does "*fish" mean?
09:35 Sewi I think it had some 'fish' in the domain name.
09:35 Hyppolit # 1197 :  highlighting and file type bug, at Preferences 2.0 (new defect) by zenogantner  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1197#comment:2 ]
09:42 Sewi Got it: https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/browse/padre
09:42 Sewi statistics?
09:42 Sewi Hyppolit: statistics is https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/browse/padre
09:42 Hyppolit statistics was unknown
09:42 Hyppolit statistics is now https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/browse/padre
09:42 Hyppolit svn: r14733 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14733
09:42 Hyppolit work on #913: C/C++ syntax highlighting
09:42 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/share/styles/
09:42 Hyppolit # 913 :  almost no syntax highlighting for C code (new defect) by zenogantner  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/913#comment:5 ]
09:43 Hyppolit # 913 :  almost no syntax highlighting for C code (new defect) by zenogantner  new attachment [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/913#comment:5 ]
09:43 Hyppolit # 913 :  almost no syntax highlighting for C code (new defect) by zenogantner  new attachment [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/913#comment:5 ]
09:43 zenog back to real-life work ...
09:44 Sewi zenog: You're coming closer :-) https://fisheye2.atlassian.com/users/​padre/?sort=loc&d=asc&page=1
09:50 zenog Sewi: yeah, you can almost feel my breath in your neck ...
09:50 Sewi I know, I have to do more for Padre :-(
09:50 zenog Sewi: Speaking of stats: Are you also playing the CPAN testers game?
09:51 Sewi I have CPAN::Reporter installed on my computers/servers but I don't run a smoke tester.
09:51 Sewi And not all are still supported by CPAN::Reporter :)
09:51 * Sewi still got some machines with Perl 5.004 running :)
09:52 zenog wtf? I think I wasn't born when Perl 5.004 was released ...
09:53 zenog Sewi: What kind of machines are those? You should run a smoker there ... that would really be a contribution to CPAN testers ;-)
09:53 Sewi My oldest one: This is perl, version 5.004_04 built for i586-linux
09:53 Sewi Copyright 1987-1997, Larry Wall
09:53 Sewi I can't, because Module installer requires a much newer Perl :)
09:53 Sewi And CPAN::Reporter propably too :)
09:54 zenog And why don't you upgrade? (besides 'no need to', because obviously there is no need to, otherwise you'd have upgraded by now ...)
09:57 Sewi Never try to Upgrade a SuSE system (which is older than 10.x). I tried once and it took me a week or so to get the server reconfigured. :-(
09:58 Sewi It's a SuSE 5.3 (which was the most stable SuSE ever), it's running and NTARS (never touch a running system).
09:58 Sewi I'm doing nothing more than replacing faulty hardware from time to time :-)
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11:09 Hyppolit svn: r14734 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14734
11:09 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
11:09 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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12:12 zenog http://search.cpan.org/~zen​og/Padre-Plugin-YAML-0.01/
12:12 zenog cpan Padre::Plugin::YAML for better YAML support in Padre ;-)
12:12 zenog Feedback welcome.
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13:58 zenog szabgab: Man, you are really really fast producing your screencasts!
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14:13 stackware hi everybody :)
14:15 stackware i just installed the 0.86 version, and i've got an issue saving .pl or .pm files : typing "ctrl+s" to save modified sources ask me to give another name (as if i asked "save as"), then i give the same name (logical) => crash
14:16 stackware any suggestion?
14:19 stackware anyone sleeps?
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14:25 bowtie stackware, can you provide, info as to os and version, please
14:26 bowtie also perl version
14:28 Sewi1 stackware: Usually you're not allowed to write the file.
14:28 Sewi1 Please check the file permissions (maybe "touch /path/to/filename")
14:29 stackware i work on my computer (vista 32), on my disk, on my files, that i update many (hundreds times a day)
14:29 stackware no problem of permission, i'm sure
14:30 Sewi1 ok
14:31 stackware i update a file : all seems to be ok
14:31 stackware i update it during 1 minute, ctrl+s > question to save it as another filename
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15:44 stackware just to close the conf i had : i was with a 0.84 version of Padre running a 5.10 version of Perl
15:45 stackware i updated Padre running the magical command perl -MCPAN -e "CPAN->upgrade('/^Padre/')"
15:46 stackware there was some warnings because of the installed version of Wx(0.97) which wasn't the expected one (0.99)
15:46 stackware so i run perl -MCPAN -e "CPAN->upgrade('/^Wx/')"
15:46 stackware after the installation, i restarted Padre and i met the problem i  submitted
15:48 stackware to correct the problem, i completely desinstalled Padre and reinstalled it with the .exe (based on a 5.12 of strawberry)
16:05 stackware well... sorry to be boring, but my fresh install is just catastophic
16:06 stackware the scripts than ran before fail now
16:06 stackware some many packages (included in the core) show errors
16:07 stackware Use of uninitialized value $_[0] in string eq at C:/strawberry/perl/lib/File/Spec/Win32.pm line 134.
16:07 stackware Name "IPC::Cmd::I18N::en::Lexicon" used only once: possible typo at C:/strawberry/perl/lib/Locale/Maketext.pm line 443.
16:07 stackware Name "Win32::Locale::Lexicon" used only once: possible typo at C:/strawberry/perl/lib/I18N/LangTags/Detect.pm line 140.
16:07 stackware Name "Module::Load::Conditional::I18N::en::Lexicon" used only once: possible typo at C:/strawberry/perl/lib/Locale/Maketext.pm line 443.
16:08 stackware Name "Archive::Extract::I18N::en::Lexicon" used only once: possible typo at C:/strawberry/perl/lib/Locale/Maketext.pm line 443.
16:13 Hyppolit svn: r14735 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14735
16:13 Hyppolit Updated Recipe-04 ConfigDB to RC1,
16:13 Hyppolit Added status bar support, and guage to clean history
16:13 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Cookbook/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Cookbook/lib/​Padre/Plugin/Cookbook/Recipe04/
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19:00 Hyppolit svn: r14736 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14736
19:00 Hyppolit also fix C#, Java, JavaScript
19:00 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/share/styles/
19:07 zenog &
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19:09 Hyppolit svn: r14737 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14737
19:09 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
19:09 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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20:15 mike Could someone point me at the release announcement for 0.86?
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20:19 szabgab mike: one sec
20:20 mike I'm looking forward to defined-or working right
20:20 szabgab http://blogs.perl.org/users/peter_lavender​/2011/06/padre-086-has-been-released.html
20:22 Hyppolit svn: r14738 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14738
20:22 Hyppolit add link to the release announcement of 0.86
20:22 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/
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20:43 mike szabgab: Why do you have to save the file before padre can run it?
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20:44 szabgab mike: I don't think we could think of a way to run a piece of code without actually saving to the disk
20:44 szabgab perl -e would require lots of escaping
20:45 mike isn't there a switch to read the program from stdin?
20:45 szabgab if you have a solution I am sure many people would be happy
20:45 szabgab hmm
20:45 mike I swear there is, but I cannot find it immediately in perlrun
20:45 szabgab actually I think if you just run   perl that would do it
20:46 mike oh, yes :)
20:47 szabgab I am quite tired right now to think about the implictions of this but this might be an interesting solution
20:47 szabgab or a disastrous one, who knows :)
20:48 szabgab do you have an svn cehcekout of trunk to try to implement this?
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20:51 mike no
20:52 * mike considers letting git-svn loose on the svn server
20:52 szabgab mike: you don't really need all the history, do you :)
20:53 mike I just despise svn :)
20:53 mike with the hatred of a thousand imploded suns :)
20:53 szabgab such hatred is not good for your health :)
20:59 mike szabgab: Can you give me a pointer to where in the checkout I should be looking for the Run feature?
21:00 szabgab lib/Padre/Wx/ActionLibrary.pm is where all the action are defined that are then turned into menu options
21:00 szabgab so that's whatere I usually start tracking down features
21:01 szabgab There you can search for "Run Script" and find out that it calls $_[0]->run_document which is implemented in Padre::Wx::Main
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21:10 mike okay, sweet
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