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IRC log for #padre, 2011-06-25

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01:33 bowtie Q $main->info_on_statusbar , am I correct in assuming there is only a GetId and NO SetId ?
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06:30 Sewi gm all
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08:59 Hyppolit svn: r14739 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14739
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08:59 Hyppolit [ShellScript plugin] fix tests
08:59 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-ShellScript/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-ShellScript/t/
08:59 zenog El_Che: I made some changes to the ShellScript plugin. Could you release it?
08:59 zenog El_Che: Or shall I?
09:10 El_Che do it, it doesn't do much
09:10 El_Che was kind of proof of concept
09:18 zenog El_Che: I am currently preparing a blog post about how to write a basic plugin for a new file type.
09:19 zenog El_Che: So that people know how easy it actually is to write such kind of plugin.
09:19 zenog El_Che: But it takes time writing nice blog posts ...
09:57 Hyppolit # 1237 :  [Wx::Scintilla] does not always update line/column numbers in the status bar (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1237 ]
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11:23 rindolf Hi all.
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11:54 zenog_ hi rindolf
11:54 rindolf zenog_: what's up?
11:55 zenog_ everything fine, hope the same for you
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12:03 zenog_ hi Sewi
12:08 zenog_ New blog post on writing Padre plugins: http://zenoga.tumblr.com/post/6900208989/creati​ng-a-padre-plugin-and-uploading-it-to-cpan-in-7
12:09 zenog_ ... beware, it is quite long ;-)
12:09 zenog_ Feedback, from typos/grammar errors to missing explanations etc. always welcome.
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12:29 bowtie zenog why Wx::gettext() as it is not in P-Plugin POD
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12:33 bowtie zenog_, opps you have changed your nick, sorry
12:34 zenog_ bowtie: I don't understand ...
12:34 zenog_ What is P-Plugin POD?
12:35 bowtie zenog_, why put plugin name in Wx::gettext(), this in not in Padre-Plugin POD
12:36 zenog_ bowtie: For YAML it makes no sense, for other plugins it may make sense.
12:36 bowtie zenog_, are you saying Padre-Plugin POD is wrong?
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12:41 zenog_ bowtie: no
12:42 bowtie zenog_, what is the deciding factor weather to wrap or not?
12:43 zenog_ bowtie: Well, yes, it is wrong.
12:43 zenog_ bowtie: No, the deciding factor is whether it needs translation.
12:43 zenog_ "Example Plugin" needs translation
12:43 zenog_ "YAML" or "HTML" do not.
12:44 bowtie zenog_, what about 'Example Plug' using single string lit's ?
12:47 zenog_ bowtie: Yeah, in Perl you would rather use '...'.
12:47 bowtie zenog_, but do you still need wrapper
12:49 zenog_ What do you mean by wrapper?
12:50 bowtie zenog_, Wx::gettext()
12:51 zenog_ Yes, for Wx::gettext('Example plugin');
12:53 bowtie zenog_, but P-P sub plugin_name dose not care!
12:54 zenog_ If you want, we can add it there ...
12:56 bowtie zenog_, I have been using -> return 'plug name';  \nwhich makes more sense to me,
12:56 bowtie opps which makes more sense to me,
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12:57 bowtie have you viewed wiki Cookbook info re GUI plugins?
13:04 bowtie zenog_, shore  you need to wrap non ascii chr, but why impose this on -> 'ascii' ?
13:05 zenog_ Usually I am very much in favor of using 'return', but in the case of the plugin name etc. it looks so nice and declarative without the 'return'.
13:05 zenog_ bowtie: No, where is the wiki cookbook?
13:07 bowtie zenog_, http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/wiki/PadrePluginDialog
13:07 bowtie there is also in trunk P-P-Cookbook
13:08 zenog_ ah okay
13:08 zenog_ &
13:08 bowtie zenog_, I am a numpty, return makes it easier for me to read, also make sense see POD for Cookbooks
13:12 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/wiki/PadrePluginDialog changed by bowtie
13:39 Hyppolit # 1237 :  [Wx::Scintilla] does not always update line/column numbers in the status bar (new defect) by markd  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1237#comment:1 ]
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14:32 szabgab anyone with wikipedia tuits here?  tehre is this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_​of_tools_for_static_code_analysis that lacksentries about Perl
14:33 szabgab some PPI based things could be added such as Perl::MinimumVersion and Perl::Metrics
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14:36 szabgab whatever, I added them
14:36 Sewi Hi szabgab
14:37 szabgab hi sewi
14:37 Sewi Would you like to tell what happend to your memory leak problem?
14:37 szabgab I have forgotten
14:37 szabgab you know, memory leak :)
14:37 Sewi :-)
14:38 szabgab I found it (or someof it) was in the XMPP modules I used
14:38 szabgab so I fixed them and they were released
14:38 Sewi Will you go for multiple processes or use threads?
14:39 szabgab by Darian who is also on our channel a lot
14:39 szabgab we will have multiple processes
14:39 szabgab but I still have to make the whole thing slimmer
14:39 szabgab as even without the leak it is huge
14:42 Sewi :)
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14:43 Sewi I was really surprised seeing the cpan client using about 150 MB yesterday.
14:43 Sewi azawawi made me try perlbrew and start smokers :)
14:47 * Sewi going to prepare lunch
14:47 Sewi dinner
15:10 szabgab I got rid of 7 of my draft messages!
15:10 szabgab 37 to go :)
15:15 zenog_ szabgab++
15:17 zenog_ I managed to get into the CPAN tester top 100 today ;-)
15:18 szabgab zenog++
15:21 szabgab btw I am at 89 subscribers, another screencast and I might get over 100 :)
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15:49 Hyppolit svn: r14740 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14740
15:49 Hyppolit [ShellScript plugin] ready for version 0.02
15:49 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-ShellScript/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-ShellScript/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-ShellScript/lib/Padre/Plugin/
16:01 Hyppolit # 1238 :  Preferences dialog does not react to Esc key (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1238 ]
16:07 Hyppolit svn: r14741 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14741
16:07 Hyppolit [HTML plugin] Padre 0.86 compatibility
16:07 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-HTML/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-HTML/lib/Padre/Plugin/
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17:17 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wi​ki/PadrePluginCookbookRecipie04 changed by bowtie
17:19 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/wiki/PadrePluginDialog changed by bowtie
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19:34 bowtie Hello All, How do I ascertain from Padre where it's being run from?
19:57 bowtie because %ENV{PADRE_HOME} is not being set.
20:01 Sewi Help->About, it should be shown on the info page
20:02 szabgab bowtie: what do you mean by "where it's being run from" ?
20:02 szabgab the cwd of the user?
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20:02 szabgab the path to Padre.pm ?
20:02 bowtie szabgab, yes Padre.pm
20:02 szabgab so check the %INC
20:03 bowtie szabgab, why is %ENV{PADRE_HOME} empty
20:04 szabgab bowtie: I guess because no one set it?
20:05 szabgab it is set by dev only to force a special PADRE_HOME
20:05 szabgab but that is not even related to Padre.pm
20:06 szabgab wow, lichtkind keeps telling me that Kephra should be included in Chocolate Perl
20:07 szabgab now I think he wants me to include it in the "Padre on Strawwberry Perl" distribution
20:07 bowtie szabgab, I have been hacking P-P-PerlTidy, got it working when in dev with tools/perltidyrc, trying to find a rc local to P-P-PerlTidy
20:08 bowtie will follow advice and us %INC thanks, :)
20:08 bowtie opps us -> use
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22:13 Hyppolit # 1239 :  Padre::Plugin::PerlTidy (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1239 ]
22:13 Hyppolit # 1239 :  Padre::Plugin::PerlTidy (new enhancement) new attachment [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1239 ]
22:14 Hyppolit # 1239 :  Padre::Plugin::PerlTidy (new enhancement) new attachment [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1239 ]
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