Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #padre, 2011-06-27

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03:37 user_4386 New user. Installed newest version and output now goes to dos box instead of 'output' area in lower section of Padre gui. What have I done wrong?
03:38 Alias weird
03:39 Alias It may well not be your fault :(
03:39 Alias ah crap
03:39 Alias But
03:39 Alias Bug
03:39 Alias I see the same problem
03:39 Alias I wonder who fucked with that
03:39 user_4386 This is on Windows XP. I was using an older version and all was well now this.
03:40 Alias Yeah, new bug
03:40 Alias We released this one a little prematurely because it had a fix to an even worse bug caused by wxWidgets changes
03:40 user_4386 It isn't like it's really holding me back. No big deal.
03:40 Alias Should be a new release fairly shortly
03:40 Alias Maybe a week or so
03:41 Alias I have a meeting now, so I have to run
03:41 Alias But I can confirm I see the same problem, so it's Not Your Fault
03:41 user_4386 Cool. Later.
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05:34 Sewi gm all
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06:23 azawawi good morning
06:24 Sewi Hi azawawi
06:24 Sewi You're guilty!
06:25 Sewi For talking so much about smoke testing that I spent half a day on Friday to set up some smokers :-)
06:25 azawawi :)
06:25 azawawi listen, i have a question
06:26 azawawi i have been trying to make my name (nickname) to show up
06:26 azawawi and the stupid leaderboard page simply puts results into the other one
06:27 azawawi p.s. did you setup command_timeout? :)
06:27 azawawi Sewi++
06:27 Sewi I guess you entered your name while creating your metabase id, but did you use the same mail address that's used for your CPAN account
06:28 Sewi I'm currently on 124 and 1007 because I tried to switch to my cpan mail address
06:28 azawawi i used the gmail account which is the same as my cpan
06:28 azawawi to tell you the truth, cpan smoking needs to be 'easier'
06:29 azawawi they should put more sane defaults
06:30 azawawi that's the problem with TIMTOWTDI
06:30 Sewi It should be much more easier, installation is very complicated. It's ok for you and me as Perl users with a little experience :-) but it's really hell for new users
06:30 Alias I really should finish PITA
06:30 Alias sigh
06:30 Sewi PITA?
06:30 Alias http://pitatesting.org/
06:31 Alias See also PITA on cpan
06:31 azawawi Alias: so many things to do on this earth, so little time :)
06:32 Sewi You're absolutly right :-)
06:32 * Sewi has to write to court now - s/o is taking us there for 0,78 Euro :-(
06:33 azawawi i get less and less time as house preparations finalize...
06:33 Alias "for 0,78 Euro" ??
06:33 azawawi and the funny thing is i still *need* to play 'duke nukem forever', sigh...
06:33 Sewi Yes. His Lawyer wrote a 10 page complaint
06:34 Alias 0,78 though... 78 euro cents?
06:34 Sewi I'ld just pay, but if I do so, we'ld also have to pay some 80 Euros for court and the other parties lawyers fees and I don't want to :-)
06:35 Alias Just to be clear, all this is over 78 cents
06:35 Sewi Yes, and the really bad thing is - this is legal in Germany! You could go there for one Cent.
06:35 Alias Just to fuck with you?
06:35 Sewi Yes, the value of a bubble gum or so :)
06:35 Sewi Seems so. :(
06:35 Alias Can't you just respond that it's a waste of the court's time?
06:35 Alias Why on earth would anyone bring a lawsuit that small?
06:36 Sewi I'll try, but law says basically that the value doesn't matter.
06:36 azawawi obviously to piss you off... human nature...
06:36 Alias Request mediation
06:36 Sewi sure :-(
06:36 Alias :)
06:37 Alias Offer to settle the lawsuit for 79 cents
06:37 Sewi Everything I could do is rising the costs and it looks like we'll loose this anyway, so I don't take it to our lawyer and write back myself.
06:37 Alias Do the lawyers just do this to make money?
06:38 Alias What's the 78 cents even over?
06:38 Sewi Sure, they get the same money for everything up to 300 Euros of value.
06:38 Alias No, I mean is this a thing where they advertise on TV to get revenge by bringing 1c lawsuits or something?
06:39 azawawi 78 cents doesnt buy you anything good even in 3rd world...
06:39 Alias Your s/o still only gets the 78 cents right?
06:39 Sewi I think most lawyers would laugh and send the client away, don't know why this one started the thing at all
06:39 azawawi what's s/o btw?
06:39 Sewi someone
06:39 Alias oh wait
06:39 azawawi ah cool
06:39 Alias Not significant other then
06:40 Alias so who the hell is this someone?
06:40 Alias Just the lawyers?
06:41 Alias Is this one of those things where a german lawyer can bring a suit without the person even knowing it?
06:41 Alias Doesn't that happen with trademarks or something?
06:41 Sewi A customer :)
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06:42 Sewi No, a Lawyer in Germany always has to work for a client. Except he's the client himself, like getting money from clients :-)
06:48 azawawi anyone getting free full HD broadcasts?
06:48 Alias Theoretically, yes
06:48 azawawi i was looking the other day at 720p and 1080p and they look the same to me... :)
06:48 Alias I don't own a TV, the rare times I do watch it's on a laptop with a USB decoder attached to a 1024x768 projector
06:49 Alias It's going to require that the TV show be filmed in HD
06:49 Alias Not just that it's broadcast in it
06:50 azawawi here we're going to get the first 'free' full HD broadcast
06:50 azawawi which is interesting
06:50 azawawi 1st july
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06:51 azawawi the funny thing is that no one knows how to setup anything even the satellite shops... lol
06:52 Alias They'll work it out
06:52 Alias We switched a while back
06:52 Alias They haven't shut off analog yet though, I think
06:53 azawawi i think that technology will stay for like 10+ years
06:55 Alias Nah
06:56 Alias It's only been a few years here, but they are already talking about shutting it off
06:56 azawawi in my region :)
06:56 Alias They are just going to buy a free digital set top box for everyone left that hasn't got one already
06:56 Alias That way they can then shut down analog TV and sell the spectrum for megabillions
06:56 Sewi Germany has no analog TV or radio left.
06:57 Alias ah
06:57 Sewi Everything is switched off, even local broadcasting antennas only send DVB (which is digital, but not always HD)
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09:37 El_Che hello
09:38 Sewi Hi El_Che
09:39 CargoIT hi both :P
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09:39 El_Che building a new perlbrew to give the newest padre a go
09:39 zenog hi guys
09:40 El_Che hi mr zeno-G
09:40 El_Che you have a rapper's name
09:40 El_Che :)
09:42 zenog hehe
09:42 zenog yo
09:43 El_Che just chilling :)
09:51 zenog ah, I see Sewi and azawawi also show up in the CPAN testers leaderboard ...
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10:40 bowtie morning all
10:52 Sewi ping szabgab
10:54 bowtie Sewi, updates  to ConfigDB checker in svn ready for you to test :)
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12:00 Hyppolit # 1240 :  Changed preferences are lost when advanced is clicked (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1240 ]
12:02 Hyppolit svn: r14743 | claudio++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14743
12:02 Hyppolit Save regular preferences when advanced is clicked
12:02 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
12:12 Hyppolit # 1240 :  Changed preferences are lost when advanced is clicked (closed defect) by claudio  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1240#comment:1 ]
12:19 Hyppolit # 1241 :  Right margen setting is not respected (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1241 ]
12:19 El_Che I need to spell check my tickets :)
12:20 Hyppolit # 1241 :  Right margin setting is not respected (new defect) by claudio  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1241#comment:1 ]
12:23 zenog El_Che: can you add your change to the Changes file?
12:23 El_Che good idea
12:23 El_Che I try to create tickets to leave a trace
12:23 zenog El_Che++
12:24 Sewi Would you like to test http://surfio.de/privat/CPA​N-Reporter-Easy-0.01.tar.gz ? Becoming a CPAN tester should be more easy using it.
12:31 Hyppolit svn: r14744 | claudio++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14744
12:31 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
12:32 El_Che Sewi: I am not a tester, can I check the package?
12:32 Sewi El_Che: Wait a moment please, just found a bug...
12:32 Sewi Sorry.
12:33 El_Che I am trying to fix the right margin bug
12:34 Sewi Ok, now it's done :)
12:34 Sewi Yes, the package should combine http://wiki.cpantesters.org/wiki/QuickStart into one command.
12:35 Sewi it depends on all of the required modules and it helps setting up your cpan client to become a tester.
13:15 Hyppolit svn: r14745 | claudio++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14745
13:15 Hyppolit Add a LICENSE file that refers to the GPLv1 (COPYING) and Artistic (ARTISTIC) licenses
13:15 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
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13:17 Hyppolit svn: r14746 | claudio++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14746
13:17 Hyppolit Undo changes
13:17 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
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13:19 Hyppolit # 1224 :  LICENCE (LICENSE) (closed defect) by claudio  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1224#comment:4 ]
13:20 Hyppolit svn: r14747 | claudio++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14747
13:20 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
13:26 Hyppolit # 1181 :  web site mod (closed enhancement) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1181#comment:4 ]
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13:30 Hyppolit # 1220 :  more tests for PPIx::EditorTools (closed enhancement) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1220#comment:4 ]
13:33 El_Che padre seems to be back in shape
13:33 El_Che but still some rough edges
13:33 El_Che can one of you gys see if the can fold/unfold code dubble clikcing?
13:34 El_Che the [+] or [-] icon
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17:46 bowtie Sewi, ping
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19:50 Sewi bowtie: pong
19:50 Sewi ping szabgab
19:54 bowtie Sewi, ping
19:54 Sewi pong
19:54 bowtie Sewi, any feedback for me? :)
20:09 Sewi Sorry, not now
20:10 bowtie Sewi, ok, thanks, latter then, :)
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20:46 CargoIT hi all
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20:51 CargoIT i have a question about "system" perl function.. is it possible to pass more than one command to this function? for example changing directory with one command, and running something with the second one?
20:53 CargoIT i've tryed but i faild... and i don't find something explaining this anywhere
20:54 szabgab CargoIT: probably I'd recommend to do that stuff in perl itself
20:54 szabgab but if you really need to then you can probably do   system "cmd;cmd;cmd"
20:55 szabgab but again if you need to chdir then I'd probably do it with the chdir of perl before running the external command
20:55 szabgab oh and I think the above works on linux only, I am not sure about windows
20:56 CargoIT uh, i can try ;
20:57 CargoIT what's the perl command to change directory?
20:57 CargoIT i will try that one too :P
20:57 szabgab chdir
20:57 bowtie szabgab, I have added a hack for P-P-PerlTidy to use tools/perltidyrc, as per a previous chat, see #1239
20:57 Hyppolit # 1239 :  Padre::Plugin::PerlTidy (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1239 ]
20:57 CargoIT ah simply chdir.. i'll search for documentation :) thanx
20:57 szabgab CargoIT: and what other command do you need to give?
20:58 szabgab CargoIT: perldoc -f chdir
20:58 szabgab or F2 in padre
20:58 szabgab bowtie: I don't have brain for this
20:58 CargoIT i have to change dir and to run another script
20:59 szabgab CargoIT: ok
20:59 szabgab I was just checking that you are not going to run     ls
20:59 bowtie szabgab, have a long sleep, then have a look. :)
20:59 szabgab as there is a built-in for that too :)
21:00 szabgab bowtie: you n\know there are others in this project :)
21:00 CargoIT :) thanx :) i know "system" dont return anything
21:00 bowtie szabgab, but the irc was with you regarding tidy and P-tools
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21:20 CargoIT szabgab thanx a lot for your help! ;)
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