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00:22 Hyppolit svn: r14781 | markd++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14781
00:22 Hyppolit Suppress 'no test' output for Padre::Util::Win32 XS module
00:22 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/winxs/
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02:56 mib_oxmp7e I was thinking about trying to help out with Padre. Permission to register.
02:57 Alias hrm?
02:57 mib_oxmp7e What is hrm?
02:57 Alias Sorry, please restate the enquiry? :)
02:58 Alias You don't need any special privileges to checkout the code and play with it
02:58 mib_oxmp7e Looking to http://padre.perlide.org/getting_involved.html but registration is closed. Trying to register.
02:59 Alias ah, right
03:00 mib_oxmp7e ? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hrm
03:03 mib_oxmp7e I will try this again tomorrow, I get up at 4:15 AM.
03:05 Alias Try now
03:26 mib_oxmp7e Okay. Got to watching National Geographic there for a bit.
03:29 mib_oxmp7e I'm in. Thx
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04:10 Hyppolit svn: r14782 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14782
04:10 Hyppolit Updated Changes
04:10 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
04:12 Hyppolit svn: r14783 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14783
04:12 Hyppolit Removed some extra whitespace from Changes
04:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
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04:18 Hyppolit svn: r14784 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14784
04:18 Hyppolit Reformatted Changes file for Wx::Scintilla
04:18 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/
04:20 Hyppolit svn: r14785 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14785
04:20 Hyppolit Convert MDOOTSON to MARKD in Padre's Changes file :)
04:20 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
04:21 Hyppolit svn: r14786 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14786
04:21 Hyppolit Convert MDOOTSON to MARKD in Wx::Scintilla Changes file :)
04:21 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/
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05:45 Sewi gm all
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07:12 azawawi good morning
07:13 Sewi Hi azawawi
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07:16 azawawi Sewi: hey... what's up?
07:16 azawawi http://blogs.perl.org/users/marcel_g​runauer/2011/06/viennapm-donates-100​00-for-perl-5-core-maintenance.html   # cool
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07:31 Sewi azawawi: My Smokers hung at a www::mech test starting a test-server but never returning :-(
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07:52 azawawi ouch had the same problem. i gave up on cpan tester reporting for now
07:52 azawawi command_timeout=1000
07:52 azawawi that way if it is hung it is will be killed and another is started.
07:56 Sewi yeah, but isn't this only for Makefile.PL?
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08:16 azawawi Sewi: late response... dont know... im totally busy at various things today
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09:21 Hyppolit svn: r14787 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14787
09:21 Hyppolit support for more file types
09:21 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
09:22 Hyppolit # 1232 :  [Wx::Scintilla] "modified" display ("*") is not updated with Wx::Scintilla (closed defect) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1232#comment:2 ]
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09:29 Hyppolit svn: r14788 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14788
09:29 Hyppolit Updated Changes with Mark's Wx::Scintilla/Padre bug fixes
09:29 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
09:30 bowtie zenog, * :)
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09:33 wolfram_ azawawi: Installing Wx-Scintilla-0.17 fails for me with:
09:34 wolfram_ Building and testing Wx-Scintilla-0.17 ...     CC -o scintilladll_AutoComplete.o
09:34 Sewi Hi bowtie
09:34 wolfram_ cc1plus: error: unrecognized command line option "-Wno-strict-overflow"
09:34 Sewi Here are your results:
09:34 wolfram_ Failed with exit code 256
09:34 bowtie Sewi, cool
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09:34 Sewi Opening history took 20 min. but Padre required only ~120MB RAM, much less than exprected.
09:34 Sewi expected
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09:34 Sewi I didn't see any button to clear the history
09:35 Sewi Klicking the "Show" button crashed Padre with a Data::Printer error, but I was unable to install Data::Printer before (test failures), had to force install
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09:36 bowtie Sewi, middle button called "Clean", only displays with Session* and History
09:36 Sewi ok :)
09:39 bowtie Sewi, Clean reads 2 tuples, compares them, then deletes first if they are the same, and so on..
09:40 bowtie Sewi, what was your cardianlity for History please?
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09:41 bowtie Sewi, I will add a D-P test thanks for that.
09:41 Sewi Sorry, I don't understand the question.
09:42 bowtie Sewi, how big was History, ie size -> cardinality
09:43 bowtie 1000 - 10000 - 100000 ?
09:43 Sewi don't remember
09:44 Sewi I'll try again...
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09:44 bowtie Sewi, if your db is ~120MB, what side effects has this on Padre?
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09:46 Sewi usually none
09:46 azawawi wolfram_: hi
09:46 Sewi config.db is 1,7MB
09:47 azawawi wolfram_: what's your environment?
09:47 azawawi wolfram_: operating system, compiler, compiler version
09:49 bowtie Sewi, Padre is protected by DB-Connector, hence un-noticed in past :)
09:57 * azawawi lunch &
09:58 azawawi wolfram_: if you could report it in a ticket, i will fix it. I guess you're using an old MINGW compiler
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10:01 bowtie Sewi, Opps I forgot to say THANKS :)
10:02 Sewi you're welcome :)
10:02 Sewi Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at
10:02 Sewi /home/sewi/padre/Padre-Plugin-Cookbook/li​b/Padre/Plugin/Cookbook/Recipe04/Main.pm line 321 (#1)
10:02 Hyppolit # 1 :  Improve load time (closed defect) by szabgab  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1#comment:5 ]
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10:04 Hyppolit # 1232 :  [Wx::Scintilla] "modified" display ("*") is not updated with Wx::Scintilla (closed defect) by zenogantner  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1232#comment:3 ]
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10:04 bowtie Sewi, thanks caused by '$_ -1' where $_ = 1, on first iteration. I need to do better, :(
10:05 Sewi Don't worry, it's in trunk, so nobody expects it to be error free :)
10:05 Sewi Estimated time: 24:15, time left: 2:17
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10:07 bowtie Sewi, I was trying to avoid using to index's, I will add a TODO, thanks
10:07 bowtie opps to -> 2
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10:07 Sewi bowtie: You're heating my office, cookbook is driving the cpu and fan to 100% load :)
10:08 Sewi 21792 files
10:08 Sewi no clean button
10:09 bowtie Sewi, that's ORLite doing it's thing
10:09 Sewi maybe
10:09 bowtie Sewi, middle button of 5 buttons
10:10 Sewi Was grey and the text was something like "warning" I think. (Just closed Padre)
10:12 bowtie Sewi, I updated trunk, with your passed suggestions, so it only gets first 127 tuples, have you checked out recently, if not please do so again.
10:13 zenog bowtie: Actually, the stuff you were asking about yesterday is documented: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Padre/l​ib/Padre/Plugin.pm#padre_interfaces
10:13 bowtie zenog, thanks I will look at, :)
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10:14 bowtie Sewi, P-P-Cookbook r14742 is current
10:14 Hyppolit Changeset #14742 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14742
10:16 bowtie zenog, I have seen this before, are you saying these are the only valid entries for padre_interfaces ?
10:23 zenog bowtie: No, they are examples.
10:25 bowtie zenog, I have look there and also in other plugins, for info in past, so we are still missing a compleat list of valid modules, thanks, :)
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10:33 wolfram_ azawawi: O.k., I'll create a ticket for that.
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10:55 waxhead hey everyone
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11:09 Hyppolit svn: r14789 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14789
11:09 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
11:09 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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11:24 waxhead hey azawawi
11:24 waxhead how goes the wedding plans?
11:25 azawawi waxhead: great
11:25 azawawi wolfram_: ping
11:29 Hyppolit svn: r14790 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14790
11:29 Hyppolit Fix RT #69176 Unrecognized command line option "-Wno-strict-overflow" (AZAWAWI)
11:29 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/inc/Module/Build/Scintilla/
11:33 wallasey azawawi: I'm just waiting for my mingw 3.4.5 test instance to build Wx then I can confirm Wx::Scintilla build
11:33 azawawi it is a scintilla bug...
11:34 azawawi the default distro contains these flags
11:34 azawawi and neil tells a guy that mingw is old
11:34 * azawawi prepares 0.18
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11:44 Hyppolit svn: r14791 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14791
11:44 Hyppolit Bumped version to 0.18
11:44 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/lib/Wx/
11:45 wallasey I'm watching Module::Build build
11:45 wolfram_ azawawi: pong
11:46 azawawi wolfram_: could you test from trunk?
11:46 azawawi wolfram_: i fixed it and im about to upload 0.18
11:47 wolfram_ azawawi: do you have a URL I could feed to cpanm?
11:48 azawawi wolfram_: svn co http://svn.perlide.org/padre/trunk/Wx-Scintilla
11:48 azawawi wolfram_: cd Wx-Scintilla
11:49 azawawi wolfram_: and then the rest ... perl Build.PL && ./Build && ./Build test
11:51 wolfram_ I keep having trouble with svn et.al. Does it observe HTTP_PROXY?
11:52 azawawi wolfram_: no worries i'll upload it for you to test it
11:52 Sewi wolfram_: The environment variable is usually lower case "http_proxy", maybe this is the problem?
11:53 Sewi bowtie: You're working on the history, do you want to face the update problem? The menu "recent files" is not updated on history updates, only with 1 file delay
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11:55 azawawi wolfram_: cpanm http://feather.perl6.nl/~azaw​awi/Wx-Scintilla-0.18.tar.gz
11:55 bowtie Sewi, are you talking about a current ticket?
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11:55 Sewi I think, yes, but I don't have the ticket#
11:56 wolfram azawawi: I have http_proxy and HTTP_PROXY but still "could not connect to server "
11:56 azawawi wolfram: cpanm http://feather.perl6.nl/~azaw​awi/Wx-Scintilla-0.18.tar.gz   ?
11:58 bowtie Sewi, i will look for it, I assume Padre thinks db history is recent files ?
11:58 azawawi wolfram: http://subversion.apache.org/faq.html#proxy
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12:00 azawawi wolfram: anything?
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12:03 wolfram azawawi: compiling...
12:04 wolfram azawawi: "Successfully installed Wx-Scintilla-0.18"
12:05 wallasey azawawi: can confirm success on RHEL 3 ( gcc 3.2.3 )
12:06 azawawi cool
12:06 azawawi win32 and linux ubuntu 11.04 works also
12:06 azawawi releasing... :)
12:06 azawawi thanks
12:06 wolfram azawawi: re yesterdays ticket #69115: are you going to modify the other files in inc/Module/Build/Scintilla as well?
12:07 azawawi wolfram: yes we did
12:08 azawawi i like wx::scintilla, i learned a lot about XS, gcc and testing on different environment
12:08 azawawi now if we had a Padre build farm :)
12:08 azawawi cpan-upload => padre-farm-test :)
12:09 wallasey azawawi: Have you tested on 64 bit Linux? If not, I will.
12:09 azawawi oh i already released...
12:09 azawawi cpanm http://cpan.cpantesters.org/authors/id​/A/AZ/AZAWAWI/Wx-Scintilla-0.18.tar.gz
12:09 wolfram azawawi: Not changed in the 0.18 I just installed. GTK.pm has archlibexp, all the other have archlib
12:10 azawawi ouch
12:11 azawawi wolfram: we'll change it when it fails on that platform
12:11 azawawi wolfram: small changes
12:11 azawawi my objective is keep things stable while upgrading scintilla
12:12 azawawi that's why i cleaned up build log
12:12 wolfram azawawi: BTW still struggling with that double-tab. padre --reset did NOT help :-(
12:12 azawawi i want scintilla 1.79 working properly and stable before jumping to do the 2.27
12:13 wallasey azawawi: archlibexp = required for relocatable static Perl. Impossible on Win32 + V. unlikely on OSX - so should not byte just yet
12:13 El_Che ERROR from evaluation of /home/claudio/Code/Padre/tru​nk/Padre/winxs/Makefile.PL: Can't use string ("Gabor Szabo") as an ARRAY ref while "strict refs" in use at /home/claudio/lib/perlbrew/perls/perl-​5.14.1/lib/5.14.1/ExtUtils/MM_Unix.pm line 2893.
12:13 El_Che funny error
12:13 azawawi wallasey: im thinking of doing another build system for 2.27
12:13 azawawi El_Che: hehe
12:14 azawawi wallasey: dual build systems so we can fix 2.27 and keeping 1.79 working properly
12:14 azawawi wallasey: s/keeping/keep/
12:15 wallasey azawawi: Makes sense
12:15 azawawi wx-scintilla2 folder
12:15 azawawi inc2 folder
12:16 azawawi it will make future scintilla bigger until we fix the major bugs and then flip the switch
12:17 azawawi then we'll start playing with the latest lexperl.cxx and contributing back to other scintilla-based editors
12:17 azawawi = big win for Perl
12:18 wallasey azawawi: better lexer, most of all
12:18 azawawi perl6.vim is so slow btw
12:18 azawawi so lexperl6 should be very fast compared to it
12:19 azawawi although perl6.vim is very complicated... tried to do a lot
12:19 wallasey El_Che: is the 'Gabor' error from current trunk? I stare at it, and I cannot see issue?
12:21 azawawi El_Che: did you interrupt it?
12:21 El_Che evision 14791
12:21 El_Che revision 14791
12:22 El_Che then I did a perl Makefile.PL
12:22 El_Che prvious line from the output:
12:22 El_Che Found Wx.pm     0.9901
12:23 bowtie Sewi, I can't find a ticket, but I can see the issue with Recipe04, History is updated on open a file from dir, but recent files is yuck, as its not using doing a DSEC on history id*
12:24 wallasey El_Che: thanks. I'll try to replicate / fix
12:26 Hyppolit svn: r14792 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14792
12:26 Hyppolit Bumped version to 0.19 after CPAN release
12:26 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/lib/Wx/
12:29 szabgab oh I am not an ARRAY ref ?
12:29 El_Che you used to be, though
12:29 El_Che getting old
12:29 szabgab It is the scaler that has multiple values
12:29 wallasey azawawi: Unadorned mingw 3.4.5 on ActivePerl fails - issue with linking perl5xx.lib. I'll add a ticket if I don't get around to fixing this.
12:31 azawawi wallasey: ok
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12:35 Sewi anybody got a google+ invitation?
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12:39 wallasey El_Che: I can't replicate? Maybe a previous version has left winxs folder dirty?
12:40 El_Che I'll clean it up
12:43 wallasey El_Che: the Makefile.PL does have evil windows line endings - but this shouldn't be causing your problem - then again
12:43 El_Che same
12:43 El_Che let me remove the end of line
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12:51 El_Che wallasey: fixed
12:53 wallasey El_Che: line endings ?
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12:54 El_Che no, out of padre:
12:54 El_Che ExtUtils/MM_Unix.pm
12:54 El_Che a string is being treated as an arrat
12:54 El_Che i'll look further
12:55 El_Che probably the args we give to that module
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13:02 El_Che crap
13:03 El_Che ExtUtils::MakeMaker builds fine in 5.12.3 fails on 5.14.0 and 5.14.1
13:04 Hyppolit svn: r14793 | markd++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14793
13:04 Hyppolit Fix line endings and param definition in winxs
13:04 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/winxs/
13:05 wallasey El_Che: I think r14793 may fix it
13:05 Hyppolit Changeset #14793 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14793
13:24 Hyppolit svn: r14794 | markd++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14794
13:24 Hyppolit Perl 5.14 ExtUtils::MakeMaker falls over AUTHOR param
13:24 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/winxs/
13:26 Hyppolit svn: r14795 | markd++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14795
13:26 Hyppolit Perl 5.14 ExtUtils::MakeMaker falls over AUTHOR param (again)
13:26 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/winxs/
13:31 wallasey El_Che, szabgab - It is just the AUTHOR param that chokes EUMM on 5.14.x. So path of least resistance - remove AUTHOR from the sudir Makefile.PL
13:31 wallasey sudir == subdir
13:32 wallasey r14795 OK for me on Ubuntu 10.10 64 bit Perl 5.14.1 + windows 5.12.3 32 bit
13:32 Hyppolit Changeset #14795 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14795
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13:52 Hyppolit svn: r14796 | markd++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14796
13:52 Hyppolit Wx::Scintilla - handle MinGW link to MS style perl5xx.lib
13:52 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/inc/Module/Build/Scintilla/
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15:08 Hyppolit # 1244 :  The menu "recent files" is not updated on history updates, only with 1 file delay (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1244 ]
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15:34 Hyppolit # 1244 :  The menu "recent files" is not updated on history updates, only with 1 file delay (new defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1244#comment:1 ]
15:35 Hyppolit # 1244 :  The menu "recent files" is not updated on history updates, only with 1 file delay (new defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1244#comment:2 ]
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15:55 bowtie Sewi, #1244, as and when, :)
15:55 Hyppolit # 1244 :  The menu "recent files" is not updated on history updates, only with 1 file delay (new defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1244#comment:2 ]
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16:29 bowtie garu, ping
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16:41 Hyppolit svn: r14797 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14797
16:41 Hyppolit Added a helpful description of the feature_wx_scintilla
16:41 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
16:45 Hyppolit svn: r14798 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14798
16:45 Hyppolit a simple more helpful NAME for Wx::Scintilla
16:45 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/lib/Wx/
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17:08 user_537 hi
17:08 user_537 how can i configure tidy in Padre?!
17:09 bowtie user_537, are you using Padre::Plugin::PerlTidy
17:10 user_537 yes
17:11 user_537 I enabled the plugin on Plug-in Manager
17:11 bowtie user_537, It will use your default .perltidyrc file found in your HOME dir
17:11 user_537 but cant find menu for configure some option in tidy
17:12 bowtie user_537, I think we just crossed.
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17:13 user_537 I cant find the .perltidyrc in Strawberry dir.
17:13 user_537 can you help me bowtie
17:15 bowtie user_537, look in your env for HOME,
17:18 user_537 perltidyRC I couldnt find, but perltidy.bat i founded
17:19 user_537 is that? bowtie
17:19 bowtie user_537, check your env for your home dir
17:20 bowtie user_537, then create a file with notepad called ".perltidyrc"
17:21 bowtie user_537, contents -pbp return,
17:22 bowtie user_537, if you wish to customise further look at: http://perltidy.sourceforge.net/perltidy.html
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17:22 user_537 I just wanted to change the maximun column from 80 to unlimited!
17:24 bowtie user_537, -l=n
17:25 user_537 bowtie, can you send me a perltidyrc example.. and where i must place the file on strawberry dir?
17:29 bowtie user_537, sorry I don't use MS, been clean for over 5 years now, you now have all the info you need, If you require more, suggest you ping szabgab as he likes strawberries :)
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19:09 Hyppolit svn: r14799 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14799
19:09 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
19:09 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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19:22 mike Anyone know why I'd be getting these errors? http://sprunge.us/OeVT
19:25 El_Che there are some gtk warnings/erros
19:25 El_Che innoncent
19:25 El_Che because you lauch padre from the command line you see them
19:25 El_Che launch from an icon would hide that output
19:26 mike I've always launched from the cli, and I don't remember those warnings previously :\
19:27 El_Che really? a lot of gtk programs have them
19:29 mike warnings are bad, mmkay? :P
19:29 mike well, I will redirect stderr then :\
19:30 El_Che I have found that perfectly running apps give that kind of gtk errors
19:30 El_Che alson in gtk2-perl
19:30 El_Che and other programming languages
19:30 mike I'm joking - if they're spurious warnings, then I can ignore them
19:31 El_Che :)
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20:13 Hyppolit svn: r14800 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14800
20:13 Hyppolit now test's for attributes with {null} values
20:13 Hyppolit Config-DB Recipe-04 (Plugin)
20:13 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Cookbook/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Cookbook/lib/​Padre/Plugin/Cookbook/Recipe04/
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