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IRC log for #padre, 2011-07-06

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00:53 Alias Righto, time to move the wxFormBuilder plugin to match the finished FBP::Perl API
01:09 Hyppolit svn: r14819 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14819
01:09 Hyppolit FBP::Perl subclass updated to match FBP::Perl 0.52
01:09 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder​/lib/Padre/Plugin/FormBuilder/
01:16 Alias OK, so that's that done
01:17 Alias Next, to merge all the Padre formbuilder files into one
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01:40 Hyppolit svn: r14820 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14820
01:40 Hyppolit Merging the FormBuilder files down to a single project to simplify the mass generation of many dialogs at once
01:40 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
01:41 Hyppolit svn: r14821 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14821
01:41 Hyppolit Resort dialog order
01:41 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
01:44 Alias Rightio
01:44 Alias So that's that done
01:46 Hyppolit svn: r14822 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14822
01:46 Hyppolit Move up to the root for easier autodetection
01:46 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder/
01:47 Alias Next, I need to make image integration sane
03:06 Hyppolit svn: r14823 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14823
03:06 Hyppolit - Padre::Plugin::menu_plugins can now return a single Wx::MenuItem so that
03:06 Hyppolit plugins are no longer forced to have a submenu (ADAMK)
03:06 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
03:10 Hyppolit svn: r14824 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14824
03:10 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
03:10 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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03:36 Hyppolit svn: r14825 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14825
03:36 Hyppolit Preparing to integrate image support for dialogs
03:36 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder​/lib/Padre/Plugin/FormBuilder/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder/share/
03:37 * Alias is just slightly excited to see image support working finally
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05:41 Sewi gm all
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06:09 Hyppolit svn: r14826 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14826
06:09 Hyppolit Updated Changes (fixed typo)
06:09 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
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07:24 Alias FFs, who broke new file creation
07:24 Alias Simple things people!
07:25 Alias oh... it might have been me
07:26 Alias oh, it's this hotkey magic
07:29 El_Che :)
07:29 Alias wtf
07:29 Alias "Attempt to reload Padre/Project/Perl/EUMM.pm aborted
07:29 El_Che I will be not upgrading from trunk today, as I need to do some coding :)
07:31 szabgab Alias: it is usually you who is braking things :)
07:33 Alias Not necesarily
07:33 Alias I just break things the most violently
07:33 Alias I tend not to regress features :(
07:35 szabgab let's say, you lave your mark on the project :)
07:35 szabgab also leave
07:35 El_Che I experienced also a new problem when closing windows from the x icon
07:35 El_Che it doesn't close
07:35 El_Che ctrl + w works though
07:36 El_Che szabgab: celebrating freedom again?
07:36 Hyppolit svn: r14827 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14827
07:36 Hyppolit The Append overloading now operates on the label resulting from the addition, it doesn't anticipate there will always be a text label.
07:36 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
07:36 szabgab yeah
07:36 szabgab trying to clean up e-mail and desk before I can start doing things
07:37 Hyppolit svn: r14828 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14828
07:37 Hyppolit Perl projects can not intuit the module and distribution names for a project, for a value of "intuit" bordering on "blindly guess" (but which works for about 90% of CPAN modules)
07:37 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Project/
07:37 Alias can NOW
07:38 Alias I need the intuition for Padre::Plugin::FormBuilder, so it can convert bitmap paths into File::ShareDir calls
07:38 szabgab I just saw a comment with this code      $str =~ s/some (.*) text/dosomething($1)/e
07:38 szabgab I wonder if we can colorize it nicely
07:39 szabgab better yet  $str =~ s/(.*)=(.*)/ lc($1) . '=' . uc($2) /e
07:41 szabgab Alias: , the dead libe for LCA talk submissions is 29th July
07:41 szabgab but they did not write in the e-mail when is LCA going to happen :)
07:41 szabgab and it is very unlikely my wife will let me travel to .au :)
07:42 Alias It's usually late november or early december
07:43 Hyppolit svn: r14829 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14829
07:43 Hyppolit Whitespace nudges
07:43 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
07:44 * Alias is somewhat annoyed at $friends
07:45 Alias They set up a movie trip a month ago to spend some time with a girl
07:45 szabgab $firends or @friends?
07:45 Alias And now on the night said girl is bringing another guy along
07:45 szabgab ouch
07:46 Alias And of course, I can't cancel because it would make it obvious that I know that she knows that etc etc
07:46 Alias And I think I'm meant to be in the dark that this was the purpose of the night
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07:47 szabgab maybe you should also bring a guy and introduce him to the girl
07:47 Sewi Alias: Take a spare $girl with you for the trip :)
07:48 Alias Sewi: See, adding a random girl at the last minute would also make it obvious I knew
07:48 El_Che Alias: is she bringen a friend of a date?
07:49 szabgab Alias: do you mean it is different than she adding a random guy?
07:49 Alias szabgab: Right, because the whole thing was planned by her and friend and friend's partner who's my friend
07:50 Alias szabgab: And I'm clearly meant to be in the dark
07:50 Alias And if she's brought someone else, then clearly I'm in the dark so I can't be hurt by it etc etc
07:50 Alias And so on, and so forth
07:50 szabgab i am not sure I understand what do you mean by "in the dark"
07:50 Alias I'm not meant to know the "real" purpose of the trip
07:50 Sewi szabgab: He should not know
07:51 Alias I mean, I'm not hugely into said girl so it's no big loss
07:51 Alias But I just find it somewhat disrespectful
07:52 szabgab There are certain advantages of alrady being married :)
07:53 Alias WTF
07:53 Alias Now the single instance server seems to be broken
07:54 Alias szabgab: yeah... I'm starting to hit the pressure point, I'm running out of single friends
07:54 Alias Or rather, now I'm doing derby stuff, which has swapped in a new younger and less attached set of friends
07:56 Hyppolit svn: r14830 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14830
07:56 Hyppolit Noting the Perl project intuition change
07:56 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
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07:59 Alias aha
07:59 Alias MARKD may have broken single instance
08:01 Alias E:\padre\Padre>perl C:\strawberry\perl\site\bin\padre "E:\padre\Padre\lib\Padre\Wx\Editor.pm" Undefined subroutine &Padre::Util::Win32::AllowSetForeground called at C:/strawberry/perl/site/lib/Padre/Startup.pm line 89.
08:06 Hyppolit svn: r14831 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14831
08:06 Hyppolit Fixing broken use of AllowSetForegroundWindow
08:06 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
08:07 Alias Weird, Padre's also picked up some kind of odd slowdown from somewhere
08:07 Alias Takes a couple of seconds to close
08:07 Alias And a second or so to open a file
08:07 El_Che are we getting a Padre::Tiny?
08:07 El_Che :)
08:07 Alias It's not legitimately slow
08:07 Alias It's like blocking'y slow
08:08 Alias It's happening for me on Ctrl-Shift-O and close_window
08:08 Alias And not always the last one
08:11 Hyppolit svn: r14832 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14832
08:11 Hyppolit Fixed tabbing
08:11 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Util/
08:12 Alias OK, cleanly MARKD is up there in terms of breaking things with me :)
08:12 Alias But he's tackling equally deep and evil stuff to me so that's ok :)
08:12 Alias clearly
08:12 szabgab Alias: in my last mail about the naming of the "Padre on Strawberry"
08:12 szabgab I mentioned the stand-alone Padre again
08:13 szabgab I would assume such stand-alone padre should not allow the user to use F5 on the perl that is running padre
08:13 szabgab it should also disregard any setting of PERL5LIB in the system
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08:13 szabgab What do you think?
08:13 Alias Yeah
08:13 Alias Well
08:13 Alias Or do both
08:14 Alias We need to logically separate those concepts internally at least
08:14 Alias I've never had an immediate need to do it
08:16 Sewi The commit message prompt is readonly and the predefined text is right-aligned for me, any suggestions where to search? Worksforme on another box.
08:18 bowtie Sewi, is that P-P-SVN, I just thought it was under development,
08:18 Hyppolit svn: r14833 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14833
08:18 Hyppolit Fix
08:18 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Util/
08:18 Alias Right, I'm out of here
08:19 Alias bowtie: If you use trunk Padre::Plugin::FormBuilder, frames and panels should work now
08:19 Alias bitmaps still don't work right, I'm working on that next
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08:19 bowtie Alias, I will have another go, get back to you, thanks
08:20 Sewi bowtie: Everything is under dev here :)
08:21 Sewi But I didn't hear any such problems earlier
08:23 bowtie Sewi, I was looking at pp-svn to see if i could swap it out for current, but with ror right comment and the fact It dose not read an svn local config file,
08:23 bowtie opps ror ro
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08:28 El_Che ach, annoying, ctrl + s removes empty lines
08:28 Sewi El_Che: This is a config option (which is off by default, I think)
08:29 El_Che who wants that? perl golfers?
08:30 El_Che "Clean up file on saving"
08:30 El_Che not very clear on what it does
08:30 El_Che we may need to rephrase that
08:31 El_Che what does it does on other file types? (this is a perl test (*.t) )
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08:39 szabgab what do you guys think about adding a menu item    Help/Features that will open a browser to http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Features ?
08:40 bowtie szabgab, yes yes yes,
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08:41 bowtie szabgab, are you going to have a screen cast page and blog links as well
08:42 szabgab bowtie: do you mean on the web site of Padre_
08:42 szabgab ?
08:43 bowtie szabgab, no on wiki, it should be the HUB for all knowledge
08:44 El_Che testing is slow as hell, but it rules. I have found sutle bugs that would have passed into production without trouble
08:44 El_Che I really need to talk to our no-test-deploy-everyday-java-devs :)
08:45 Sewi szabgab: What about adding the wiki to the main padre page navigation?
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08:46 bowtie El_Che, like FBP::Perl wont build hence PP-Formbuilder dose not work, suggest Alias for this new position
08:46 szabgab Sewi: we can do that but if you remember we start as having only trac as our website
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08:46 azawawi hi
08:47 szabgab hi azawawi
08:48 bowtie szabgab, azawawi can you look at patch in #1239
08:48 Hyppolit # 1239 :  Padre::Plugin::PerlTidy (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1239 ]
08:48 Sewi szabgab: But users currently go to padre.perlide.org and this is (now) not trac
08:49 bowtie later, all, funeral today :(
08:49 szabgab we have a link to the Features list
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08:49 szabgab bowtie: oh
08:49 szabgab Sewi: but not in the navigation
08:51 szabgab I think it woule be ok to add a navigation link to the main site to point to http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki
08:51 Sewi ok
08:53 szabgab Sewi: where do you think people who need padre browse?
08:53 szabgab where should we promote padre?
08:54 Sewi szabgab: I clearly don't know.
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10:19 szabgab http://bit.ly/ppfrry new blog on creating a successful open source project
10:19 szabgab I'd appreciate your feedback (typos, stupidities etc)
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12:49 zenog hi guys
12:49 szabgab hi zenog
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12:50 zenog szabgab: Nice blog post.
12:51 szabgab oh thanks
12:53 Hyppolit svn: r14834 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14834
12:53 Hyppolit add link to latest blog post
12:53 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/
12:55 Hyppolit svn: r14835 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14835
12:55 Hyppolit add link to wiki
12:55 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/
12:57 szabgab zenog: typo fixed, thanks
13:08 zenog szabgab: I oversaw you on the IRC list, so I sent the e-mail instead.
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18:11 szabgab http://arstechnica.com/civis/vi​ewtopic.php?f=20&t=1149329
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18:42 bowtie szabgab, thanks for that, this problem is due to ms marking,
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18:45 bowtie szabgab, I have another question, I have a wxFrame for Recipie04, but it kills padre on second load with out any errors, is it ok to commit to trunk, as I think the error is Padre-Plugin is not expecting a wxFrame hence reload gets confused
18:46 bowtie The only difference is the generated file Dialog / Frame
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18:48 szabgab sure it is ok to commit but a warning should be given somewhere (eg. in the explanation of the recipie)
18:48 szabgab and a bug report should be filed
18:51 bowtie szabgab, I will just add the *.fbp to svn and send Alias an e-mail, asking for guidance. hence dialog is stable, and frame is not. thanks :)
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21:08 Hyppolit svn: r14836 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14836
21:08 Hyppolit Modified Recipe04 so that it will work with MainFB Dialog, and also a Frame,
21:08 Hyppolit Frame works once, but then kills padre. inc fbp's for shared testing, :)
21:08 Hyppolit setup to use dialog stable
21:08 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Cookbook/fbp/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Cookbook/fbp/Recipe04/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Cookbook/lib/​Padre/Plugin/Cookbook/Recipe04/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Cookbook/lib/Pa​dre/Plugin/Cookbook/Recipe04/FBP/
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21:22 user_7505 Where can i find the LDAP.PM
21:23 user_7505 ldap.pm
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