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IRC log for #padre, 2011-07-12

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01:04 Hyppolit svn: r14904 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14904
01:04 Hyppolit The editor doesn't need to be visible to pass tests
01:04 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/t/
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01:51 Hyppolit svn: r14905 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14905
01:51 Hyppolit - Save the window geometry when maximizing the main window so that we restore
01:51 Hyppolit to the same geometry across a Padre restart while maximised (ADAMK)
01:51 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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03:10 Hyppolit svn: r14906 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14906
03:10 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
03:10 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
03:32 Hyppolit svn: r14907 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14907
03:32 Hyppolit Completed some unfinished bits for REFRESH and completed the implementation of CONFIG locking
03:32 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
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04:01 Hyppolit svn: r14908 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14908
04:01 Hyppolit - Save the window geometry on Maximize, Iconize or ShowFullScreen so that we
04:01 Hyppolit retain the same geometry across a Padre restart while in any of the normal
04:01 Hyppolit non-windowed states (ADAMK)
04:01 Hyppolit - Adding Padre::Config "locking" to Padre::Locker to enabled automatic
04:01 Hyppolit write on scope exit in a way that prioritised correctly with the other lock
04:01 Hyppolit types and shares a single database commit with any database locks (ADAMK)
04:02 Hyppolit - Tuned the locking implementation to reduce code complexity, reduce
04:02 Hyppolit lock memory consumption, and make lock releasing slightly faster (ADAMK)
04:02 Hyppolit
04:02 Hyppolit
04:02 Hyppolit (Still SLIGHTLY buggy, will fix the last bits shortly)
04:02 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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05:38 Alias Hells yes
05:38 szabgab Alias: good mornng to you too :)
05:39 waxhead hey Alias, szabgab
05:39 waxhead szabgab, now that you have done the screencast, do you still want me to branch?
05:39 waxhead I'll get the branch done anyway if we are ready to go for the next release...
05:40 szabgab waxhead: there are more screencasts coming :)
05:40 Alias I finally managed to fix the problem with storing the window geometry
05:40 szabgab but there are some issues as I mentioned in the e-mails
05:40 waxhead Alias++ I noticed the commits
05:40 Alias I can now perfectly track where the window should be when you start Padre, no matter when state it is in when you close it
05:40 * waxhead is home with the kids today..
05:41 waxhead nice!
05:41 Alias what state
05:41 Hyppolit svn: r14909 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14909
05:41 Hyppolit Final tweaks to the Window location tracking
05:41 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
05:41 szabgab Alias: if I recall you said you have some more dialogs to change?
05:48 Alias I do
05:48 Alias To rewrite them into wxFormBuilder versions
05:48 Alias I'd like to see 100% of Wx::Dialog and using proper sub-classing before we do a 1.00
05:49 Alias But the dialog rewrites are not trivial
05:49 Alias So don't let it stop 0.88
05:49 Hyppolit # 1250 :  Menu bar text dissapear after saving new Key Binding (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1250 ]
05:49 szabgab Alias: what other big changes do you plan to Padre?
05:49 Alias Not so much changes, as the completion of unfinished changes
05:49 Alias We REALLY need to fix that task threading bug
05:50 Alias And it would be good to get slave mastering working properly
05:50 Alias Now Mark is around a fair bit, I'm hoping he'll be a good replacement for Steffen and can help me fix those
05:50 Alias It would be really nice to get the popularity contest web server working
05:51 Alias Right now, it doesn't work
05:51 Alias There's no server platform for Padre
05:51 Alias Or at least, no way to deploy it
05:51 Alias All we have is a static website generator
05:52 Alias More or less
05:52 Alias Basically, I don't really want any new changes to go in
05:52 Alias I just want all the things already in Padre to really truly work properly
05:52 Alias Work in a suitably 1.00 fashion
05:52 Alias Hence why I'm going back over things like window geometry and trying to work the bugs out of them :)
05:53 Alias Same theme as Wx::Scintilla, which doesn't add new features, but makes the editor panels Work Properly
05:54 Alias I'd be quite happy to just do this kind of polishing for 4 or 5 releases
05:54 szabgab it would be good if Padre got more and more stable
05:55 szabgab I'll try to work on the debugger as I think that is one of our missing features
05:55 Alias If we draw a line under the current feature set, polish the hell out of them, then call that 1.0, then that gives us a place to make the switch to being more defensive about bugs
05:55 szabgab and I try to work on the promotional and educational part
05:55 Alias As we've talked about for a while
05:56 Alias Does that sound like a reasonable plan?
05:57 szabgab I think so
05:58 szabgab oh, I was just trying to add a google+1 button to the web site of padre
05:58 szabgab and now I see thre are alrady +3 on it
05:59 szabgab 3 people already +1 -ed it without even a button on the site
05:59 szabgab interesting
06:00 Hyppolit svn: r14910 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14910
06:00 Hyppolit add google +1 to the website
06:00 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/tt/lib/
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06:01 szabgab if you have a g+ account, go ahead look at our website now!
06:01 szabgab if you would like to have an invite let me know
06:02 Alias Is Google Plus any good?
06:02 szabgab its too early to tell
06:02 Alias Got any invites?
06:02 szabgab for now it feels like FB
06:02 Alias I should probably get in and take a look
06:02 szabgab Alias: to which address shall I send?
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06:02 Alias Good question
06:02 Alias adam@ali.as lets say
06:02 Alias adamk@cpan.org is virtual, and sometimes that causes trouble
06:03 Alias Ah, craptastica
06:03 Alias "Google Profiles is not available to your organisation"
06:04 szabgab oh company policy?
06:04 Alias I have Google for Domains on ali.as
06:04 Alias I tried to reduce the number of services on it to a minimum to prevent future hacking and complexity
06:04 Alias Can you send to adamkennedybackup@gmail.com as well
06:18 waxhead szabgab, invite me :)
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06:59 Hyppolit svn: r14911 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14911
06:59 Hyppolit Updated Changes for Wx::Scintilla
06:59 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/
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07:10 Hyppolit svn: r14912 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14912
07:10 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
07:10 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
07:26 Hyppolit svn: r14913 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14913
07:26 Hyppolit add gplusone buttons to the about page for this year
07:26 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.​org/inc/Local/Padre/Website/ trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/tt/pages/
07:31 Hyppolit svn: r14914 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14914
07:31 Hyppolit link to blog entry with 3 screencasts
07:31 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/
07:32 szabgab add +1 buttons to the individual blog entries on the about page as well
07:32 szabgab http://padre.perlide.org/about.html
07:33 szabgab I could not add to all of them as that made the page load very slowly so I added only to the ones from this year
07:33 szabgab we might want to split up that page anyway
07:33 szabgab maybe according to years and languages
07:34 szabgab as the navigation bar already has
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07:54 Hyppolit svn: r14915 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14915
07:54 Hyppolit Converted wxVector back to std::vector. For some reason weird reason stc source code on wxWidgets 2.9.1 is different than the original scintilla source code. This prevented a clean compilation of scintilla2.
07:54 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scin​tilla2/src/scintilla/src/
07:55 Hyppolit svn: r14916 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14916
07:55 Hyppolit svn:ignore some files and start converting stc into scintilla prefix
07:55 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scintilla2/include/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scintilla2/src/
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13:55 El_Che if someone here needs a google+ invite, ping
13:58 Sewi El_Che: I'd like to add you to my Padre circle :)
14:01 El_Che hehe
14:01 El_Che are you sebastian willing?
14:01 Sewi yes
14:01 El_Che I see I added you to my Perl cicle already :)
14:03 El_Che I am Claudio
14:04 Sewi Found you :)
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14:07 Alias For some reason Padre isn't building on my Vista box
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14:08 Alias Win32.o:Win32.c:(.text+0x268): undefined reference to `AllowSetForegroundWindow'
14:15 Hyppolit svn: r14917 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14917
14:15 Hyppolit Wx::Scintilla compilation is now stuck in the shared library linking stage.
14:15 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scintilla2/include/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scintilla2/src/
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14:45 wallasey Alias: Win32 failure - is this Strawberry? - give version + bitness , I'll check
14:45 Alias About a year old, 32 bit
14:45 Alias I'm upgrading now
14:49 wallasey OK - but assuming it is a mingw headers thing, I can probably fix so those without latest mingw don't hit this problem.
14:58 Alias Happens with current Strawberry 5.10.whatever.5 too
14:58 Alias I also noticed
14:58 Alias oh wait, warning goes away this time
14:59 Alias (with current release)
15:03 wallasey Now you've confused me :) So a failing release is .....
15:03 Alias The failure still happens
15:03 Alias But there was an additional warning about prototypes that has gone away
15:04 wallasey OK it will be an includes ordering thing - I'll check it out.
15:05 Alias Aside, does it NEED to have an entirely separate Makefile.PL?
15:05 Alias That's a feature that is fairly badly tested in Module::Install
15:06 wallasey No - the separate Makefile is a feature of my lack of understanding how to do it differently
15:06 Alias ah, ok
15:07 Alias I'm not real hot on that stuff either
15:07 wallasey It is the 'compile on Windows only' bit that means you actually need to understand what you are doing - and I didn't really
15:08 Alias oh, now THAT's interesting
15:08 * Alias finds a clue
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15:08 Alias The .pm file builds break
15:09 wallasey meeting - back later
15:09 Alias nope, it's not that :(
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15:28 szabgab http://xbrl.us/research/pages/challenge.aspx
15:28 szabgab Alias: what do you think about that?
15:29 Alias What about it?
15:30 szabgab I am trying to understand it myself if this something that could be interesting to participate in, the link where I read this mentioned desktop application
15:31 szabgab and you have some financial education and like challenges
15:31 szabgab so I am wondering if this can be interesting to participate or not
15:32 Alias ah
15:33 Alias I think it's not worth it, seeing as every financial house in the world will be trying to make use of it
15:33 Alias I think it's probably too popular to let us stand out
15:33 Alias Plus it's XML, and Perl's not great with that normall
15:33 Alias And finance is boring
15:33 Alias All of the government things we've done have been successful when we've been able to personalise them
15:33 Alias Down to your house or you personally
15:34 Alias In a way that has never been done before
15:34 Alias Like when you could open Google Maps and see your house the first time
15:34 * Alias bed
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15:35 tome Hi guys,  Mark from Cava packager is going to host a gotomeeting on Thursday 9 AM PST to discuss packaging Perl apps and how to use Cava. Anyone interested in joining me on that? I can PM you my email and include you on the list. He's done a first-try at packages, and has some ideas for how it could work in the future on tough platforms like linux.
15:36 szabgab wallasey: do you read that :)
15:36 tome It would really help if someone was on there that knew Padre.. ; )
15:37 szabgab I'll try but I am not sure yet
15:37 szabgab I should actually read all the mails you two were sending
15:38 tome His are the most useful... : )
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