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00:03 Hyppolit # 162 :  CGContextRestoreGState: invalid context (new defect) by tome  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/162#comment:5.6 ]
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00:06 tome I'd like to add the keyword osx to this defect, since it was reported for osx. In that way we can easily find all OSX related defects.
00:07 bowtie tome, sounds good to me, do it and we can check with sandbox
00:08 Hyppolit # 162 :  CGContextRestoreGState: invalid context (new defect) by tome  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/162#comment:7 ]
00:08 bowtie tome, yep it's there
00:15 * tome just noticed that the whole iconbar is missing in osx
00:15 tome ah, there it is, nice!
00:16 tome not on by default in osx, though I think it's default to on in linux (at least my linux has it enabled by default)
00:16 bowtie tome, yes linux default on,
00:17 tome would you consider that an OSX bug or a feature?
00:17 tome ; )
00:20 bowtie tome, you are going to have fun, making the defaults the same
00:21 bowtie tome, any more, otherwise night
00:27 tome gnight, thanks for your help
00:27 bowtie tome, np
00:27 bowtie night
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00:30 Hyppolit # 1259 :  osx Padre icon toolbar default should be same as linux (default to true) (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1259 ]
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01:32 Hyppolit svn: r14965 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14965
01:32 Hyppolit Removed duplicate Changes file entry
01:32 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
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02:15 Hyppolit svn: r14966 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14966
02:15 Hyppolit Added a check for invalid use of qx.
02:15 Hyppolit Padre::TaskThread and Padre::TaskManager are no longer exempt from the Wx ban
02:15 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/xt/
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02:18 Hyppolit svn: r14967 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14967
02:18 Hyppolit Commented out feature_restart_task_manager to prevent damaging restarts when the task manager is under stress.
02:18 Hyppolit Moved the loading of minimal Wx from Padre::TaskThread to Padre::Startup as the thread class itself does not impose this requirement
02:18 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/t/
02:31 Alias wtf is this directory "rere" method
02:31 Alias It's seems to do something exactly like refresh, but without all the smarts
02:43 Hyppolit svn: r14968 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14968
02:43 Hyppolit Load the thread modules before Wx so Wx boots threading properly
02:43 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
02:45 tome does anyone have a minute to consider a suggested change I propose in FBP::Preferences.pm. I suggest where we add $hsizer->SetSizeHints($self), we also add $vsizer->SetSizeHints($self). For me it fixes a bug in osx where the size of the prefs window is huge in non-debug runs. Unfortunately, I'm not familiar enough with Wx to fully understand why this fixes things, though I have a good guess.
02:48 Hyppolit svn: r14969 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14969
02:48 Hyppolit Changed all uses of Padre::Wx::Directory::rere to ::rebrowse, which does the same thing and doesn't seem to crash either for the bug described in #1248
02:48 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Directory/
03:10 Hyppolit svn: r14970 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14970
03:10 Hyppolit Add the "Create Directory" to the directory as well, where it is a bit more of a natural fit
03:10 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Directory/
03:11 Hyppolit svn: r14971 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14971
03:11 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
03:11 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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03:38 tome Hi all, I'm debugging why some menu items in OSX don't have keyboard shortcuts, and it seems that if I remove the id  from the menu items, they pick up the keyboard shortcut fine. Does anyone know if we really make use of those IDs? any why perhaps they aren't getting shortcuts?
03:38 tome for example open menu has wxID_OPEN
03:38 Alias Might be worth moving from using a pair of sizers to a single grid sizer or something
03:39 Alias Although I moved Preferences to wxFormBuilder, I didn't do anything to actually improve the layout
03:39 Hyppolit svn: r14972 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14972
03:39 Hyppolit - Added directory deletion to the file tree, although it doesn't use the
03:39 Hyppolit file operation task, so it could be slow and block (ADAMK)
03:39 Hyppolit - Labels for directory tree menu commands are now localised to the prefered
03:39 Hyppolit operating system terms, on Win32 at least to start with (ADAMK)
03:39 Hyppolit - Because the directory tree "Refresh" operation only actually works by
03:39 Hyppolit refreshing the entire tree, move it to the top search box menu (ADAMK)
03:40 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Directory/
03:40 tome Alias: did you just do this? Perhaps the bug is fixed already?
03:40 Alias Did I just do what?
03:40 tome sorry I don't know what wxFormBuilder is
03:40 tome i was wondering if you recently moved to it
03:40 Alias We moved in the big development run between 0.84 and 0.86
03:41 Alias Instead of using an ugly generated layout, we're using the wxFormBuilder dialog design tool
03:41 Alias Which is similar to Glade for GTK
03:41 tome ah, cool.
03:41 Alias So you can change the layout of the preferences dialog as much as you like, as long as the widget names don't change
03:42 Alias Then we regenerate Padre::Wx::FBP::Preferences that Padre::Wx::Dialog::Preferences subclasses from
03:42 Alias And Padre picks up the changed designs
03:42 tome ah, so we should not be editing the FBPs automatically
03:42 tome sorry manually
03:42 Alias That would be why it has a giant DO NOT EDIT BY HAND warning at the top of it...
03:43 tome haha yeah I haven't gotten there yet, still getting my head around all the pieces : )
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03:59 szabgab gm
03:59 szabgab Alias: what about adding a . at the top of the directory browser representing the root directory of the whole tree?
03:59 szabgab then we could have the "create directory" operation only on directoies, as it should be
04:00 szabgab and maybe the refersh should be also on that directory only
04:00 szabgab because I have not found a way to catch clicks on the background of the Tree
04:02 Alias I avoided adding a root path in the first place because it consumes a ton of precious space
04:02 Alias You lose an entire column of space for no functionality
04:02 Alias But we COULD add that to the dropdown menu on the search box
04:02 Alias Same as where I just added refresh
04:02 Alias And yes, the refresh should probably only just do that sub-tree (more important on remote mounted filesystems)
04:03 szabgab The . should be in the s same column as the top level file, not?
04:03 szabgab it does not represent an upper directory
04:03 Alias oh, like that
04:03 Alias Not a fan of that approach
04:03 Alias Complicated things... makes it a special case
04:04 szabgab yeah I was reading the commit message, that's what brought the issue up
04:04 Alias Lets try it on the search menu and see how that goes
04:04 szabgab ok
04:04 szabgab I think I added the create directory to the files as a work around
04:04 Alias I'm busy for the rest of the day, but if you can do it that would be great
04:04 Alias ya
04:04 Alias I noticed
04:04 szabgab as I could not create top level dirs
04:04 Alias I didn't remove it for that reason
04:04 Alias ;)
04:04 tome Alias: I got fombuilder working, do you guys hand-edit the .fbp file or is there some tool/mode?
04:05 szabgab tome: look at wxformbuilder on our wiki
04:05 tome thanks
04:05 szabgab http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/wxFormBuilder
04:05 szabgab wxformbuilder?
04:06 szabgab Hyppolit: wxformbuilder is http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/wxFormBuilder
04:06 Hyppolit wxformbuilder was unknown
04:06 Hyppolit wxformbuilder is now http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/wxFormBuilder
04:07 szabgab btw the wxformbuilder is crashing for me on Windows
04:07 szabgab and it is making changes to the xml file even if I only browse around
04:08 tome So do you guys think the right approach is to go through the formbuilder app to try to tweak it such that it will somehow set the size properly
04:08 tome That's the problem with the gui-generators, if they aren't perfect, you are sol
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04:09 szabgab I am just starting to learn that tool but I really need to do it as now we have tons of our dialogs that way already
04:09 szabgab and I wanted to add e new dialog
04:10 szabgab and I have to go now
04:10 szabgab but I'll be back!
04:10 tome cool, I'll look into running the tool on osx or linux, and try to get that dialog to size properly
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07:06 Hyppolit svn: r14973 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14973
07:06 Hyppolit Experimental upgrade to the schema migration system to avoid the need to execute scripts. This should be both much faster and more compatible with strange Perl setups (preventing a number of known early failure cases, and delaying failure until at least after Padre is up and running)
07:06 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/Migrate/
07:11 Hyppolit svn: r14974 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14974
07:11 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
07:11 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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07:51 Hyppolit svn: r14975 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14975
07:51 Hyppolit Rewrote all of the schema migration scripts as classes
07:51 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/Migrate/
07:53 szabgab Alias: shiny!
07:53 szabgab can we have that now in the external Migrate module as well?
07:53 szabgab the original one
08:00 Alias That's my plan, later
08:00 Alias Trial it here, and move it back to the core later
08:03 El_Che hey Alias, szabgab
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08:08 Alias Hi
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08:26 szabgab wow, padre just crashed totally out of the blue while I was editing a file
08:26 szabgab and nothing on the console
08:30 szabgab that won't look good on the screencast :(
08:31 El_Che aact surprised
08:52 bowtie gm
08:53 El_Che hi K
08:57 Hyppolit # 399 :  Stand-alone executabel of Padre for Linux (assigned defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/399#comment:3 ]
08:58 szabgab err err err
08:58 szabgab err err err err
08:58 szabgab err
08:59 szabgab sorry, I was just practicing for the screencast
08:59 bowtie szabgab, this will give you time for hair and makeup, :)
09:00 szabgab bowtie: no, you cannot yet close #339
09:00 Hyppolit # 339 :  docbrowser has bad output in plugin manager (closed defect) by submersible_toaster  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/339#comment:1 ]
09:00 szabgab or #399
09:00 Hyppolit # 399 :  Stand-alone executabel of Padre for Linux (assigned defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/399#comment:3 ]
09:01 szabgab we just saw a demo of it
09:02 szabgab though it is actually good that you are going over the tickets and checking if the problems still exist
09:04 bowtie szabgab, I think we should have a dedicated OSX wiki page to assist tome with his good deeds :)
09:05 szabgab You are welcome to create one
09:06 bowtie szabgab,  I will continue to go through tickets and reassign as and ware
09:07 szabgab Those assignments don't mean much here
09:07 szabgab what is interesting is to see if the problem still persist
09:07 Alias Man
09:07 Alias The version of ORLite::Migrate using modules instead of files is dramatically smaller
09:07 Alias And probably faster too
09:08 bowtie Alias, long time no speek
09:08 bowtie Alias, do you support wxAuiTabs yet
09:09 Alias Nope
09:09 Alias I'm staying with the previous release for the moment
09:09 Alias AUI is tricky
09:10 Alias I recommend against AUI for most simple things
09:12 bowtie Alias, how are you going to us FormBuilder on Help->About then as it uses Wx::AuiNotebook
09:13 bowtie are talking about a complete redesign here then?
09:13 Alias Good point
09:14 Alias My main goal is to get rid of Wx::Dialog, since that is the cause of most of our layout problems
09:14 Alias I'm not opposed to people doing the Wx work for a particular piece of the GUI by hand, as long as it lays out well
09:14 Alias So I don't expect 100% of stuff to move into wxFormBuilder
09:14 bowtie Alias, if Aui is the cause of slow about screen, then thats cool
09:14 Alias Just 100% of Wx::Dialog dialogs to start with
09:15 Alias I'm not sure what the cause is... it MIGHT be
09:15 Alias I hadn't considered that
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09:19 bowtie Alias, I noticed your absence, have you been speed dating again :)
09:19 Alias Roller Derby
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09:20 bowtie Alias, don't you get dizzy
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09:22 bowtie Alias, can you add your 2 pennies worth to this #1253
09:22 Hyppolit # 1253 :  Update Plugin Version in Config.DB for enabled plugins only, please add to trunk :) (new enhancement) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1253#comment:2 ]
09:25 Alias There's definitely some well intentioned but non-functioning future proofing going on there
09:26 Alias The reason the version is there right now, is that I meant to allow plugins to know when they are BEING upgraded
09:26 Alias So if a plugin has some data files or whatever installed somewhere, and you upgrade the plugin, the plugin has a chance to know what version of itself was previously on the machine
09:26 Alias So it has a chance to adapt to being upgraded
09:27 Alias I need to make some other improvements in that area anyway, so just leave it as is for now
09:27 Alias For example, if I disable a plugin it still gets loaded into memory at startup, and that's a waste
09:27 Alias If you intentionally disable a plugin, it should probably put an entry into the database which says not to load it at all
09:28 Alias etc
09:28 Alias For the moment though, it can stay where it is
09:28 Alias Also, plugins DO have the ability to store stuff in that config column
09:28 Alias $plugin->config_read
09:28 Alias $plugin->config_write
09:29 Alias And likewise, the plugin might want to upgrade the config structure
09:29 Alias And it needs to know the old version for that
09:30 Alias That version should be set to the version of the plugin that was last enabled
09:30 Alias If a new version is incompatible, it shouldn't be updated
09:32 bowtie Alias, version I assumed as much, thanks for config explanation, I will add config info to wiki
09:33 bowtie Alias, only loading enabled Plugins would be cool based upon DB
09:33 Alias Well, it can't be "enabled"
09:34 Alias There's some subtleties there we have to deal with
09:34 bowtie Alias, Thanks for that :)
09:34 Alias Like having a crashing plugin automatically go disabled, but then hopefully come back when it was upgraded
09:34 Alias So it's more like NOT loading it, if intentionally disabled
09:35 Alias But in principle, plugins that the user doesn't want running shouldn't really consume resources. And right now they do
09:35 Alias That's partly my fault
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09:36 bowtie Alias, the patch only upgrades enabled Plugins version, though
09:36 Alias You mean updates the version value?
09:36 bowtie Alias, yes
09:36 Alias That is the correct behaviour
09:37 bowtie Alias, so why put on hold?
09:37 Alias I wouldn't necesarily put a whole method for that though
09:38 bowtie Alias, I only followed current coding convention
09:38 Alias ok
09:38 Alias So commit it
09:38 Alias You don't need our permission
09:38 bowtie Alias, I can not :(
09:39 Alias Then how are you committing to the Cookbook plugin?
09:39 Alias If you have commit to one thing, you have commit to everything
09:39 bowtie Alias, that is only part of trunk I can commit to :), rest is following procedure
09:40 Alias Just commit it, if you are nervous just confirm verbally first
09:40 Alias I'm fine with that change, so commit it
09:40 Alias I didn't think the tree even had granular permissions at all
09:40 bowtie Alias, look in svn access list
09:41 Alias I try not to :)
09:42 bowtie Alias, Try harder :)
09:47 El_Che t/04-config.t fails
09:48 El_Che #          got: '128'
09:48 El_Che #     expected: '129'
09:48 El_Che nr of configurations options
09:48 El_Che someone changes preferences.pm?
09:48 Alias Gimme a minute will ya :)
09:48 Alias Yeah
09:49 El_Che hehe, found a guilty alpha coder :)
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09:58 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wi​ki/PadrePluginCookbookRecipie04 changed by bowtie
10:02 Alias bowtie: Actually, there's a bug in that patch
10:02 Alias bowtie: You should update the version of the plugin AFTER it has successfully been enabled
10:03 Alias It should also happen automatically as part of the $plugin->enabled or something
10:03 Alias So that it's not just the initial startup
10:03 Alias Well, maybe :/
10:04 bowtie Alias, silly me, still finding my way around, that's why I post to ticket then pester :)
10:04 Alias I shall commit something functionally equivalent
10:05 bowtie Alias, thanks :)
10:08 Hyppolit svn: r14976 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14976
10:08 Hyppolit - Padre::DB::Migrate now has class-based migration scripts into of script
10:08 Hyppolit based migration scripts. This results in vastly inferior encapsulation,
10:08 Hyppolit but is much more reliable and works from inside PAR and friends (ADAMK)
10:08 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/Migrate/ trunk/Padre/share/ trunk/Padre/t/
10:09 Hyppolit svn: r14977 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14977
10:09 Hyppolit Make the copyright compliance test happy
10:09 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/Migrate/
10:10 Hyppolit svn: r14978 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14978
10:10 Hyppolit Typo fix
10:10 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
10:11 Hyppolit svn: r14979 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14979
10:11 Hyppolit Add support for the experimental ORLite update method
10:11 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
10:20 * Alias growls
10:21 Alias NOT liking when people violate my elegantly layered APIs to create circular functionality and completely break encapsulation
10:21 Alias Example: PluginManager -> PluginHandle -> Plugin
10:21 Alias Nice, simple, encapsulated
10:21 Alias But now PluginHandle does a Padre->ide->plugin_manager
10:21 Alias Gee, thanks
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10:24 Alias Now Manager and Handle have a circular dependency on each other
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10:41 Alias ugh, plugin management is really starting to become a bit of a mess
10:41 Alias Time for a partial rewrite
10:41 Alias (Just not now)
10:43 bowtie Alias, I thought you were on a roll :)
10:45 Hyppolit svn: r14980 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14980
10:45 Hyppolit The version column in the plugin table now tracks the last successfully-enabled version of the plugin, so the plugin has an opportunity to elegantly upgrade itself in future.
10:45 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/
10:45 Alias The plugin manager is delicate, it's a dedicate series of work all on it's own
10:45 Alias I'm not going to fuck with it this close to a release
10:45 Alias And it DOES actually work, it's just gotten ugly
10:46 Alias The plugin hook system is twisted
10:51 bowtie Alias, thanks, I will close ticket, :)
10:52 Hyppolit svn: r14981 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14981
10:52 Hyppolit Use ->select to deal with cases where ->load will throw an exception
10:52 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
10:53 Alias There's still no actual interface for the plugin to upgrade itself, but that can wait for a plugin that actually needs it
10:53 Alias In the mean time at least we track the right plugin
10:55 Hyppolit svn: r14982 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14982
10:55 Hyppolit Typo
10:55 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
10:55 Hyppolit # 1253 :  Update Plugin Version in Config.DB for enabled plugins only, please add to trunk :) (closed enhancement) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1253#comment:3 ]
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11:11 Hyppolit svn: r14983 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/14983
11:11 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
11:11 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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12:00 Hyppolit # 499 :  Padre automatic indentation not working on Mac OS X (new defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/499#comment:1 ]
12:04 Hyppolit # 191 :  could not find encoding on OS X 10.5, fails tests (new defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/191#comment:9 ]
12:13 Hyppolit # 791 :  Padre Won't Open on Leopard (new defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/791#comment:3 ]
12:13 Hyppolit # 932 :  Cannot adjust font setting (new defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/932#comment:1 ]
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12:59 Hyppolit # 1125 :  [Catalyst plugin] warning when closing Catalyst panel (assigned defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1125#comment:1 ]
13:00 Hyppolit # 622 :  [Catalyst plugin] Catalyst Plugin feature (assigned enhancement) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/622#comment:2 ]
13:02 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/SandBox changed by bowtie
13:14 Hyppolit # 1182 :  Crash when enabling plugin (closed defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1182#comment:5 ]
13:15 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/SandBox changed by bowtie
13:29 waxhead speaking of a release soon, are we going to fix up the Find dialog before 0.88, or just release now and make it a focus for 0.90?
13:30 waxhead I'll backlog any discussion tonight tomorrow at work.. :)
13:30 waxhead to bed now
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16:27 szabgab bowtie: I don't understand #1076, is there now a solution to that?
16:29 bowtie szabgab, it's not a Padre fault, it's wx::sound integration with other os,  hence closed
16:30 bowtie szabgab, Padre can only use a working subset of dependencies
16:32 szabgab A user of Padre still cannot use the plugin right? so they will see it as a problem with Padre
16:32 bowtie szabgab, #115 should also be closed, as it's pye in sky,
16:33 bowtie szabgab, they cant use plugin as it has no version and will not load
16:33 szabgab so either the plugin needs to report this or it needs to use a file that it can play
16:34 bowtie szabgab, or use a cpan library that will play sound on any os,
16:34 szabgab so the bug is still relevant
16:35 bowtie szabgab, some file which is generic such as mp3 rather rather than proprietary
16:35 szabgab regarding #115 you can leave that open too
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16:36 szabgab bowtie: I don't want to deal with that plugin now, just making sure we have the issue acknowladged
16:36 bowtie szabgab, the BUG is not relevant, as it is nothing to do with Padre
16:36 szabgab El_Che: waxhead maybe garu  could you pls op Hyppolit and me ?
16:37 szabgab the same would be a lot of other bugs that are due to some dependency
16:37 szabgab but user of Padre don't care
16:37 szabgab they see it as a bug of Padre
16:37 szabgab so they file it for Padre, we can mark it as upstream and try to get it fixed there
16:37 szabgab then we can close the bug
16:38 szabgab or we can try to work around the upstream bug
16:39 bowtie szabgab, do we have the ability to mark as upstream?
16:40 szabgab you can add a tag, you can explain it in a comments
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16:42 szabgab bowtie: think about the lack of highlighting for   //  earlier
16:42 szabgab People saw that as a bug of Padre right?
16:42 bowtie szabgab, no you need to add it as an option of fixed, using a comment will not allow ticket searching in track
16:43 szabgab it is not fixed
16:43 szabgab it is open
16:43 szabgab it is not even closed
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16:45 bowtie szabgab, #1076 was created by zenogantner, not a user
16:45 Hyppolit # 1076 :  [Alarm plugin] cannot play alarm sound under Ubuntu (reopened defect) by szabgab  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1076#comment:2 ]
16:48 bowtie szabgab, as for #115 it's a wish list, not an enhancement, hence not referenced correctly in track
16:48 Hyppolit # 115 :  simple GUI designer (assigned enhancement) by zenogantner  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/115#comment:2 ]
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16:50 szabgab bowtie: I really don't want to fight this :)
16:51 szabgab why don't you try to loacate the time issue of the About dialog?
16:51 szabgab or check for some memory leaks
16:51 szabgab I think we have some
16:51 bowtie szabgab, I am just trying to work though tickets and close or assign the obvious ones.
16:52 szabgab neither of those two is really needed
16:52 szabgab if you go through tickets
16:52 szabgab that's ok
16:52 szabgab but just update them with "I tired it in v0.87 r1231312 and I can still see this issue"
16:52 Hyppolit Changeset #1231312 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/1231312
16:53 szabgab or that you cannot reproduce it (and say which OS etc)
16:54 bowtie szabgab, as for About dialog, will have to wait for FormBuilder,
16:55 bowtie szabgab, as for sound I spent most of afternoon hacking P-P-Audio and reading api's and wx sites
16:55 szabgab so you can update the ticket with what you found even if you have not found the solution
16:56 szabgab that will help the next person
16:56 bowtie you can only guarantee that wx::sound will work on an ms os
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19:55 chazh Trying to use Padre on Ubuntu - its not picking up my PERL5LIB setting - any help would be appreciated?
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