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IRC log for #padre, 2011-07-25

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00:12 fiap hi
00:14 fiap when i press f1 looking for help in padre a winbox appear with msg " help not found "  how to fix it    thks
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02:47 Hyppolit svn: r15054 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15054
02:47 Hyppolit tidy up config , include some real code to use in tests
02:47 Hyppolit trunk/Madre/ trunk/Madre/lib/Madre/ trunk/Madre/t/ trunk/Madre/views/
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02:59 Hyppolit svn: r15055 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15055
02:59 Hyppolit Comment out the diags
02:59 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/xt/
03:00 Hyppolit svn: r15056 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15056
03:00 Hyppolit Removing Perl::Critic::Policy::RequireUseOfExceptions, as it has been moved to Perl::Critic::More
03:00 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/xt/
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03:01 Hyppolit svn: r15057 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15057
03:01 Hyppolit play nicely(er) with registration errors and successes
03:01 Hyppolit trunk/Madre/lib/Madre/Dance/
03:11 Hyppolit svn: r15058 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15058
03:11 Hyppolit POD fix
03:11 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/
03:15 Hyppolit svn: r15059 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15059
03:15 Hyppolit Fix bad use of return sort
03:15 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
03:16 Hyppolit svn: r15060 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15060
03:16 Hyppolit Downgrade the severity of unrestricted no critic, since the FBP generated files use it
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03:16 Hyppolit svn: r15061 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15061
03:16 Hyppolit Adding use warnings to make critic happy
03:16 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/Migrate/
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03:33 szabgab Alias: I need help with a word in English, I am posing on a forum about padre but I'd like to tell them I am involved in the project
03:33 szabgab I keep thinking about the word "disclaimer" but I think there is a better wan
03:33 szabgab one
03:34 szabgab oh disclose, I think
03:35 szabgab or rather disclosure
03:38 Alias disclosure, yup
03:38 szabgab yeah I ahd to browse through several entries of a thesaurus :)
03:39 szabgab you know it is funny to see people asking "is there a ide for perl" on seemingly random web forums
03:40 szabgab this time I sa it here: http://thenewboston.com/forum/v​iewtopic.php?f=124&p=91066
03:46 tome Attempt to free unreferenced scalar: SV 0x698a2ed8, Perl interpreter: 0x698a2a00 at …Wx/Mini.pm
03:46 tome Bizarre copy of UNKNOWN in subroutine entry at …Padre/Wx/Main.pm
03:46 tome Hi szabgab, have you ever seen this error before:
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03:46 tome (above) it looks oddly familiar ....
03:47 szabgab I don't recall
03:48 tome it's the latest in my wx/padre/lion errors : )
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03:48 szabgab oh
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03:49 szabgab tome: are you on the wxperl list already?
03:49 szabgab they keep talking about Lion
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03:50 tome yes, I saw people chatting about it so I'm going to give it a day or two to see if it's resolved before chiming in.
03:50 tome (I'm also pretty swamped with day-job right now : (  )
03:51 tome but we're close..
03:51 szabgab yeah we all have our ups and downs in that
03:52 szabgab submersible_toaster: I see you are working on Padre again
03:52 szabgab what about trying to write a simple IRC client plugin for Padre?
03:53 szabgab would you have the tuits for that?
03:54 tome is now known as tome_afk
03:55 Hyppolit svn: r15062 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15062
03:55 Hyppolit add some timestamps , updated template for user display, update depends
03:55 Hyppolit trunk/Madre/ trunk/Madre/lib/Madre/ trunk/Madre/lib/Madre/Dance/ trunk/Madre/views/
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05:05 Alias szabgab: He's trying to get Preferences Sync, or rather authentication/identification working
05:05 Alias szabgab: At least in part because it means Swarm can move forwards again
05:05 Alias But don't expect much conversation, things getting crazy at work here
05:05 Alias We're both slipping in code between the crazy
05:07 Hyppolit svn: r15063 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15063
05:07 Hyppolit Maybe that will shut pragmas up
05:07 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/Migrate/
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05:32 submersible_mib2 oops - hello szabgab
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06:39 szabgab this metacpan is getting more and more awesome
06:39 szabgab you can now +1 modules there :)
06:40 Sewi :)
06:40 Sewi hi szabgab
06:40 szabgab hi Sewi
06:40 Sewi I don't thing arguing with you is a "fight". I feel we're always getting further when discussing a topic with you.
06:41 szabgab I actually did not understand your cases
06:41 szabgab I guess you are talking about finding soemthig when you are searching withing the real of perl
06:42 szabgab and padre sort of falls there too
06:42 szabgab but don't forget you are *in* the community
06:42 szabgab you know where and how to look for stuff
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06:47 Sewi you're right, but I usually try out google first :)
06:48 szabgab do you usually inlcude the word perl ?
06:48 szabgab in your searches?
06:49 szabgab and have you tried to look for "password verifyer" and found the perl solution to it
06:49 szabgab or have you tried "blog engine" ?
06:50 Sewi I think "Perl" is one of my keywords most of the time
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07:18 Sewi Google shows me Padre on #10 when searching for "Download Perl"
07:18 Hyppolit # 10 :  Project Management (closed enhancement) by szabgab  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/10#comment:5 ]
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08:32 szabgab Sewi: yeah, I think we should try to also emhance the position of the padre webiste for the "download perl" search
08:33 szabgab though If I create a distribution - the super big one I have been talking about
08:33 Sewi top10 is great for such a keyword combination which is not directly related :-)
08:33 szabgab then maybe it would be better to promote that
08:34 Sewi We should add one page for every other language supported by Padre to get a little more different content to the page.
08:35 szabgab I am not sure if our suppoprt for those languages is so good that it is worth it
08:35 szabgab anyway, I am now depating between desktop-perl or dperl
08:35 Sewi It won't improve since we get someone using that language on Padre.
08:35 szabgab or dwimperl
08:36 szabgab for that super big packaged
08:36 Sewi blue whale perl (if it's super big) :-)
08:36 szabgab oh that's nice too :)
08:37 szabgab or maybe killer whale?
08:38 Sewi Isn't it smaller than the blue one? :)
08:38 szabgab yeah but it has killer features :)
08:39 Sewi also true :)
08:39 Sewi The blue one could be a Perl including every CPAN package :-)
08:39 Alias Killer features?
08:40 szabgab killing your disk space ?
08:40 Alias I know how to ship with every module
08:40 Alias You bundle a minicpan, and then add Acme::Everything to a startup script
08:40 Alias Then it will silently install a module from the minicpan the first time you call Module->new
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08:42 szabgab reading about bluewhales make me so sad
08:42 szabgab they are almost extinct
08:43 Sewi Merge your project with a link to some org collecting founds to safe them :)
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08:44 szabgab so Alias what do you think?
08:44 szabgab besides the Acme::Everything
08:53 Alias I thought blue whales were coming back
08:54 Alias I think in the end whatever you make will be killed by Strawberry Professional
08:54 Alias But hey, that's just me :)
08:54 Alias Yay for competition :)
08:54 Alias Padre is getting close to the point where I'm wanting to dive back into Strawberry and get professional working
08:56 * Alias heads home to either work on Padre or go skating
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09:09 szabgab lovely, now closing the help window crashes padre
09:09 szabgab Can't call method "Hide" on an undefined value at /home/gabor/work/padre/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Main.pm line 6760.
09:09 szabgab we did not have this feature a couple of days aog
09:09 szabgab ago
09:10 Sewi Solution: Keep the help window open :)
09:15 szabgab this killer feature was introduced in r15037
09:15 Hyppolit Changeset #15037 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15037
09:20 Hyppolit svn: r15064 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15064
09:20 Hyppolit stop crashing when closing the help window. Fixing bug introduced in r15037
09:20 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
09:48 submersible_toaster szabgab: regarding IRC , I can probably do it - can I cheat with anyevent or does irc client need to be WxSocket ?
09:49 szabgab anyevent should be ok if it works on windows
09:49 szabgab that's the key there so I can get our windows users in here :)
09:50 submersible_toaster recently seen to install and pass tests I think on strawberry
09:50 szabgab that was probably me )
09:50 szabgab :)
09:50 szabgab write the stuff and I'll test it soon
09:50 submersible_toaster the nasty part is either wx latency or event latency ..
09:50 szabgab or let me know which modules you need and I test it before you even write
09:51 szabgab but I have to go now
09:51 szabgab back later
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11:11 Hyppolit svn: r15065 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15065
11:11 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
11:11 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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11:36 waxhead evening all
11:47 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wi​ki/PadrePluginCookbookRecipie04 changed by bowtie
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12:49 Hyppolit svn: r15066 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15066
12:49 Hyppolit perltidy
12:49 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/Migrate/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ trunk/Padre/xt/
13:11 Hyppolit svn: r15067 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15067
13:11 Hyppolit typos
13:11 Hyppolit Opps -> Oops
13:11 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Cookbook/fbp/Recipe04/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Cookbook/lib/​Padre/Plugin/Cookbook/Recipe04/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Cookbook/lib/Pa​dre/Plugin/Cookbook/Recipe04/FBP/
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15:11 Hyppolit svn: r15068 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15068
15:11 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
15:11 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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21:11 Sewi Upgrade to Ubuntu 11.04 done - Padre not running.
21:12 Sewi Neither ubuntu packed 0.76 nor dev trunk
21:12 El_Che Sewi: really? it works here
21:12 Sewi I'm trying to recompile Wx atm, let's see if this will help
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21:22 Hyppolit svn: r15069 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15069
21:22 Hyppolit typo
21:22 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Cookbook/t/
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22:54 Hyppolit svn: r15070 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15070
22:54 Hyppolit semi styling.
22:54 Hyppolit trunk/Madre/public/css/ trunk/Madre/public/images/ trunk/Madre/views/ trunk/Madre/views/layouts/
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