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IRC log for #padre, 2011-07-27

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02:28 Hyppolit svn: r15098 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15098
02:28 Hyppolit Regardless of what wxFormBuilder says, always show the first tree element
02:28 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
02:29 tome heh
02:30 Alias It's too easy to accidentally make formbuilder show a tab be default by just looking at it
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04:50 Hyppolit svn: r15099 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15099
04:50 Hyppolit Select the version of Scintilla to use once at compile time.
04:50 Hyppolit This prevents @ISA being populated with additional useless entries every time a document is created.
04:50 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
04:51 Alias That is a fairly ugly thing I just fixed
04:51 Alias It should probably go into 0.88
05:08 szabgab Alias: if you have some time it would be nice if you added hotkeys to all the formbuilder generated dialogs
05:08 szabgab as they are mostly gone
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05:28 Alias Or you could :)
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06:11 Hyppolit svn: r15100 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15100
06:11 Hyppolit Updating version to development 0.89
06:11 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Browser/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Config/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/Migrate/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/QuickFix/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/File/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/PPI/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/PopularityContest/ trunk/Padre/
06:11 Alias WTF, Padre is behaving oddly
06:11 Alias I hope I didn't break 0.88
06:26 Alias But not when I do perl dev, only on the installed one
06:28 Alias I think I did break it
06:28 Alias Turning feature_fontsize off breaks the directory browser
06:28 Alias :(
06:28 Alias Probably a bug in one of the refresh methods
07:11 Hyppolit svn: r15101 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15101
07:11 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
07:11 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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08:47 waxhead Oh.. I forgot to set the dev version... :-/
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08:57 waxhead oh dear.. and I got the version number wrong in the email.. sheesh...
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09:49 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Plugins changed by bowtie
09:52 bowtie Alias, ping
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11:05 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Plugins changed by bowtie
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12:19 Hyppolit # 1264 :  Padre::Plugin::Swarm missing dependency does not run!!! (assigned defect) by submersible_toaster  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/t​icket/1264#comment:description.1 ]
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12:31 daxim http://stackoverflow.com/questions/684362​0/searching-for-perl-ide-with-code-assist
12:36 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Plugins changed by bowtie
12:58 Hyppolit # 1264 :  Padre::Plugin::Swarm missing dependency does not run!!! (assigned defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1264#comment:2 ]
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13:15 bowtie daxim, re code highlighter, I find it inconsistent, but white text on gray background is unreadable, where can I change the colours
13:17 Alias bowtie: You have to hand-craft your own style yaml files
13:19 bowtie Alias, ok, but which section, give us a clue :)
13:19 Alias god, I havent' done it since we wrote that code
13:19 Alias OK, so start by picking the style closest to what you want
13:20 Alias And then go find it in the share install path
13:20 daxim steal kate's colour scheme editor.  it r0x0rs your b0x0rs.
13:20 Alias Sooo... ultraedit.yml or something
13:20 Alias daxim: It needs someone who cares
13:20 Alias You're welcome to start designing it in wxformBuilder even
13:20 bowtie Alias, I alread have a pet style, what is the wx code??
13:21 Alias It's not Wx, it's yml
13:21 Alias You need to put the bowtie.yml into a directory in your config path called style
13:21 bowtie Alias, done that
13:21 Alias Then restart Padre
13:22 Alias And I believe it just autodetects
13:22 bowtie Alias, but what  wxSTC_STYLE in which section, or is it hard coded in trunk?
13:23 bowtie Alias, you can just toggle styles in prefs :)
13:23 Alias oh, not sure I remember
13:23 Alias The current style system is very 1.9
13:23 Alias er
13:23 Alias 1.0
13:24 Alias I started to write a newer one that was a bit cleaner, but there's usually something more important
13:25 bowtie Alias, I only want to change the assist colour, ps I prefer the PPIx control, just don't have enough ram
13:26 Alias tbh, I really don't know
13:26 Alias I just hack at it randomly myself
13:26 bowtie Alias, are you going to enable a plugin share dir in trunk, to test icons, language etc..
13:26 Alias Not sure I understand?
13:27 Alias Plugins can define their own share dir already'
13:27 bowtie Alias, if you use a plugin with share/icons dir, trunk can not find icons, so you have to make install
13:28 Alias Even if you run make on the plugin so it's in blib?
13:29 bowtie Alias, #1265, you now have to install FormBuilder for it to find it's icons :(
13:29 Hyppolit # 1265 :  Padre::Plugin::FormBuilder can't find wxfb.png, have to make install, so as to access png, why as it only works againt trunk!!! (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1265 ]
13:29 Alias File::ShareDir is supposed to look at %INC and work it's way up to find where the share files are
13:29 Alias Hang on, how did you use the plugin without installing it?
13:29 Alias With the "all plugins" option to dev?
13:30 bowtie Alias, yes
13:31 Alias Judging by the code in Padre::Plugin::plugin_directory_share, it should already work
13:31 Alias oooh, I see
13:31 Alias I may be generating the wrong code
13:32 Alias hrm, actually, this is a problem
13:32 Alias I'll have to think about it
13:32 Alias In the mean time, just install it
13:32 bowtie Alias, it's your pretty icons,
13:32 bowtie Alias, I did
13:34 bowtie Alias, but you intention is it will work from trunk? for future icons, in any plugin
13:34 Alias The plugin icon itself should work
13:34 Alias Via ->plugin_directory_share
13:34 Alias The problem is you need to have the plugin object for that
13:34 Alias Which child classes may not have
13:34 Alias Which I'll have to think about
13:35 Alias I may need to make an entirely parallel Padre::PluginShareDir or something weird
13:35 bowtie Alias, any feedback on http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Plugins for me :)
13:36 Alias Put the name first and use the whole class
13:36 Alias Plugins can have arbitrary class names
13:37 bowtie Alias, you want Padre::Plugin::SVN rather than SVN
13:38 Alias Yes
13:38 bowtie ok, what else?
13:38 Alias Whether it has an icon or not is kind of irrelevant
13:39 Alias Don't put anything into wiki you can't maintain long term
13:39 Alias What's with the rating thing?
13:39 bowtie it's pretty like your icons,
13:39 bowtie keep reading
13:40 Alias keep reading where?
13:41 bowtie ratings,
13:41 Alias It's a rating out of 5... as decided by who?
13:42 bowtie or what else do you expect a plugin to do ?
13:42 Alias So I can just change my rating any time I like?
13:42 Alias Plus we already have cpan ratings
13:42 bowtie Alias, you could,
13:43 Alias Then it's not the kind of thing that should be in a wiki
13:43 bowtie where can I get cpan ratings from
13:43 Alias cpanratings.org
13:43 Alias cpanratings.perl.org
13:44 bowtie ok what should the description be?
13:44 bowtie conformance
13:47 Alias description of that rating thing?
13:47 Alias It shouldn't be a rating at all
13:48 Alias And I'd drop the UpDate column
13:48 bowtie ok, how about compliance then?
13:49 Alias compliance with what?
13:50 bowtie the Padre Plugin system
13:51 Alias Compliance is tested automatically
13:53 bowtie is it possible to get the cpan stars for a package directly?
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14:04 Alias It might actually be possible
14:08 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Plugins changed by bowtie
14:09 bowtie Alias, I wait your reply, in anticipation :)
14:10 Alias hrm, not sure how actually
14:10 Alias Doesn't appear to be a service for t
14:10 Alias it
14:14 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Plugins changed by bowtie
14:16 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Plugins changed by bowtie
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14:26 bliof hi all
14:26 bliof I've installed padre 0.86
14:26 bliof but i am not sure if it works
14:27 bliof when i do something like
14:27 bliof my $q = CGI->ne
14:27 bliof should i have code assist?
14:28 Alias Padre isn't particularly great about it :(
14:28 Alias Perl in general is bloody hard to do method name prediction in particular
14:28 El_Che ctrl + space
14:28 Alias Because variables aren't typed
14:29 bliof ok
14:29 Alias So with Padre a lot of what we are working on is the lower hanging fruit
14:29 El_Che Alias: padre is getting pretty good at it lately
14:29 Alias Ctrl-Space does nothing for me
14:30 Alias Does the file have to be saved, or do I have to generate something?
14:30 El_Che no, out of the box normally
14:32 bliof you mean that you have code assist for 'new'?
14:32 bowtie El_Che, how do I change the white on gray text, as I can not see it?
14:33 El_Che sorry, off to a meeting
14:33 bliof bb
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15:45 bowtie assist colours are default, from wx thingie AutoCompShow
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15:54 gabor hi
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16:45 Hyppolit svn: r15102 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15102
16:45 Hyppolit 0.03 to be released
16:45 Hyppolit - Rearranged the codegen options to allow more detailed descriptions
16:45 Hyppolit - Added specific control of internationalisation in generated code
16:45 Hyppolit - Added support for the FPB::Perl i18n_trim option, labelled as
16:45 Hyppolit "Smart" internationalisation.
16:45 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder​/lib/Padre/Plugin/FormBuilder/
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17:26 Vovan hallo
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17:29 Vovan hi
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18:19 user_7166 anyone has a strong knowlegde about perl qt4?
18:21 user_7166 i have a trouble in a perl moudule
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18:27 garu user_7166: I don't think you'll find that info here :(
18:28 garu user_7166: maybe they have a mailing list
18:29 garu user_7166: did you try contacting the module author? assuming you're using a module to access qt
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18:50 bowtie garu, ping
18:54 garu bowtie: pong
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18:56 bowtie garu, when you have updated the catalyst plugin, let me know and I will update http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Plugins for you. :)
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19:45 garu bowtie: aye aye, sir!
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22:50 Hyppolit # 1264 :  Padre::Plugin::Swarm missing dependency does not run!!! (assigned defect) by submersible_toaster  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1264#comment:3 ]
22:56 Hyppolit # 1264 :  Padre::Plugin::Swarm missing dependency does not run!!! (assigned defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1264#comment:4 ]
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23:19 Hyppolit svn: r15103 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15103
23:19 Hyppolit #1264 add requires for Wx::Socket and use it.
23:19 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padr​e/Plugin/Swarm/Transport/Global/
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