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00:05 tome gday bowtie
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00:10 bowtie tome, hi i am still up
00:11 tome ah sorry still early here.
00:12 tome Took a look at the Plugin page you've been working on, looking forward to getting a chance to write my first
00:12 tome Do you guys normally push those plugins to CPAN independently of Padre releases?
00:13 bowtie tome, have I pitched it at the right level?
00:13 tome not sure yet, need to actually go through it
00:13 tome and see if my plugin works : )
00:15 tome is there one place I should start
00:15 tome like Cookbook 01
00:15 bowtie tome, the others normally do, but I think you have to develop against trunk, you never no we might just catch some new fish in the process :)
00:17 tome bowtie: sorry not 100% sure I understand : )
00:17 bowtie tome,  yes start with cookbook 01, you can download a zip from that page, the assumption is that perl gui is new to reader
00:17 tome gotcha
00:17 bowtie new fish like you and me, te he
00:17 tome hehe
00:18 bowtie they might just look at trunk and spot something that overlaps there world :)
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00:19 bowtie tome, if you spot a typo, or want to add to wiki do so :)
00:20 tome def. will do! I'm not yet ready to work on the plugin, hope to do it soon though, will let you know
00:21 bowtie I have not explained the perl only dialog and boiler plate
00:22 bowtie tome, now you will have to work out how to run trunk on osx, first :)
00:23 tome that's actually easy, I've been doing it for some time. I use a padre-brew.pl that I wrote to create a perl that can run Padre, and then i just use that perl (32bit) to run trunk padre.
00:23 tome haha NOW it's easy, once I got all the complex build flags from Mark
00:25 bowtie an ode to build flags, what fun I remember it well from my youth, rather you than me :)
00:25 tome :)
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00:26 bowtie tome,  i am on gmt time, so night
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00:27 tome gnight
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02:51 Hyppolit svn: r15339 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15339
02:51 Hyppolit Removing more code if folding is disabled
02:51 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
02:53 tome ++on the announcement of 0.88
02:59 Hyppolit svn: r15340 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15340
02:59 Hyppolit Moved the Function List "goto function" logic into Padre::Editor as $editor->goto_function so that it can be used by other things (my plan is to allow Open Selection for "Foo::bar" to open Foo and goto function bar.
02:59 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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03:12 Hyppolit svn: r15341 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15341
03:12 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
03:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
03:49 Hyppolit svn: r15342 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15342
03:49 Hyppolit Remove Padre::Document::Perl::goto_sub now that we have Padre::Editor::goto_function
03:49 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/
03:50 Hyppolit svn: r15343 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15343
03:50 Hyppolit Minor variable name cleaning
03:50 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/
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04:25 tome FYI: I pushed Padre 0.88 DMG for OSX http://wildperl.com/2011/08/padre-0-88-osx-dmg/
04:55 Alias Woot
05:00 tome *now will less crashes* : )
05:01 tome oops, with
05:02 Hyppolit svn: r15344 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15344
05:02 Hyppolit Typo fix, and removing more code that is no longer in use
05:02 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/t/
05:12 submersible_mib tome: surely you mean fewer crashes :D
05:13 tome now with less *crash*
05:13 tome ? :)
05:13 submersible_mib much betterer !
05:14 tome I also happen to be the most atrocious speller
05:14 tome it comes from learning a mostly-phonetic language when young, and then learning to code instead of spell in english
05:14 tome that's my theory
05:15 submersible_mib fundamentally english is a most silly language
05:15 submersible_mib the equivalent of QWERTY
05:16 tome I suggest all comments and variables names be slowly changed to esperanto
05:17 submersible_mib or not... QWERTY was at least _designed_ to be difficult.
05:17 tome one at a time...
05:20 submersible_mib that'll totally screw up the pod indexing feature... unless somebody releases Lingua::Eo::Stem
05:21 tome i just imagine that in 8 months we'll all be speaking esperanto inhere
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05:23 submersible_mib we'll have to port Hyppolit
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06:27 azawawi good morning
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06:45 azawawi szabgab: ping
06:49 azawawi Hyppolit: restart?
06:49 azawawi Hyppolit: ping :)
06:49 azawawi Hyppolit: help?
06:50 azawawi svn commits logging is offline...
06:58 Sewi Seems someone died tonight :-(
06:58 Sewi RIP Hyppolit
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07:03 tome hehe
07:03 azawawi :)
07:04 * tome suggests monit
07:11 * tome wonders at what point talking in the 3rd person on IRC is a mark of insanity versus tiredness...
07:11 * azawawi reads about Scala
07:12 * tome note's we're all crazy together
07:12 tome notes
07:12 azawawi break and continue considered *evil* and were removed... lol
07:12 Hyppolit svn: r15345 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15345
07:12 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
07:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
07:12 tome hahahaha
07:12 azawawi continue = last in Perl
07:12 azawawi sorry
07:12 azawawi break = last in Perl
07:12 azawawi http://www.javacodegeeks.com/2011/08/what​-features-of-java-have-been-dropped.html
07:13 azawawi I like what James Gosling said, Java is not important... the JVM is...
07:14 azawawi people do not understand that in the end it is the VM that matters
07:14 azawawi the runtime
07:18 Hyppolit svn: r15346 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15346
07:18 Hyppolit Added the blog entry "Padre 0.88 - Internals refactoring completed!" by Alias++
07:18 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/
07:22 Hyppolit # 1284 :  osx Wx::Scintilla .21_04 causes Padre to scroll poorly (new defect) by tome  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1284#comment:1 ]
07:23 Hyppolit # 1269 :  Padre 0.86 on OSX DMG crashes (closed defect) by tome  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1269#comment:2 ]
07:30 Hyppolit # 932 :  Cannot adjust font setting (closed defect) by tome  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/932#comment:3 ]
07:30 * Alias heads home for more hackery
07:30 tome sorry for all the spam, just doing some cleanup of osx defects
07:37 tome Question for you guys: are any of you actually running on 64bit versions of Perl? On OSX we do a lot of work to create a 32bit version for wxWidgets 2.8.12, but I wonder if that's not a requirement on other systems.
07:42 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/DownloadMacOSX changed by tome
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07:47 zenog waxhead++ for 0.88 (and of course all the other developers involved ...)
07:50 waxhead yeah, I get the easy job...
07:50 waxhead no code input from me much these days
07:50 azawawi waxhead++
07:50 waxhead I have to write up the release announcement tonight..
07:52 zenog waxhead: Well. And you have the hard job of deciding when the branch is stable enough to do the release ...
07:53 jdoe tome: no dice, fails even with the updated script.
07:53 jdoe or rather, perl builds but it chokes during make test.
07:53 tome grrrr
07:53 azawawi i would link to Alias's blog post for the advanced stuff in that announcement
07:53 azawawi saves time :)
07:53 tome what's the error?
07:53 jdoe sec, need to find and pastebin them...
07:53 tome azawawi: I didn't know there was another post
07:54 * tome re-reads post
07:55 tome still don't see it, azawawi what are you referring to?
07:55 tome jdoe: are you on Lion?
07:56 tome oh sorry azawawi, I thought you were talking about my wiki change.
07:56 tome waxhead: I'm sorry I didn't mean to pre-empt your announcement with my blog post (ps: I have a blog post about 0.88 dmg), actually I thought the 0.88 announcement was made : (
07:57 jdoe tome: yeah.
07:57 jdoe tome: http://pastie.org/private/ivejczagcx4iczxsyscv5q
07:57 jdoe tome: my perl build tested properly too, fwiw.
07:58 jdoe hrm... or at least I thought I tested it. Might have to compile again and see...
07:58 jdoe brain is a bit fuzzy.
07:58 tome Bizzare, you are running as ./bin/padre-brew.pl --notest
07:59 jdoe actually I just ran padre-brew.pl on its own. (and if I was supposed to fetch anything else other than the script, I didn't)
07:59 jdoe er, "on its own", I mean with no options
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08:00 tome you were not, the script should be standalone
08:00 tome do you have any build flags in your env? (long shot)
08:01 jdoe no such luck :)
08:01 tome can you pastie your perl build log?
08:02 tome i think it's still around
08:02 waxhead tome, don't worry about it.. :)
08:02 tome in perl5
08:03 tome waxhead: thanks
08:03 waxhead the announcement is just a chance to wrap up what's gone in and give credit to people to have done so  much awesome stuff!
08:04 waxhead zenog, should have been here last night... I merged the original branch for 0.88 back to trunk, then branched again... fun times...
08:06 tome jdoe: yeah that build.log is critical because something is quite different in your setup and mine (I lament I have but one OSX to give)
08:06 tome or email if you prefer/easier
08:07 azawawi tome: no problem, i was away a bit :)
08:12 tome jdoe: can you also try the new DMG : )?
08:12 azawawi ok it starts now... the new Padre feature i have been thinking of for a while :)
08:12 tome auto-code?
08:13 tome open up a file of specs, hit macro, out comes code
08:13 * tome apologizes - tired :)D
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08:13 Hyppolit svn: r15347 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15347
08:13 Hyppolit First let us revamp the diff style. Red background for deleted stuff, Green for added stuff, Yellow background for diff headers
08:13 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/styles/
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08:22 Hyppolit svn: r15348 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15348
08:22 Hyppolit More emphasis via bold on diff/patch addition, deletions and commands
08:22 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/styles/
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08:35 Hyppolit svn: r15349 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15349
08:35 Hyppolit Added feature_devel_endstats. The purpose of this configuration parameter is to toggle the experimental Run with Devel::EndStats support.
08:35 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/t/
08:43 bowtie azawawi, is Wx::Scintilla v0.21_02 still current ?
08:43 azawawi 0.21_04
08:43 bowtie azawawi, thanks, url please
08:44 azawawi https://metacpan.org/module/Wx::Scintilla
08:44 azawawi Goto version
08:44 azawawi cpanm http://cpan.cpantesters.org/authors/id/A​/AZ/AZAWAWI/Wx-Scintilla-0.21_04.tar.gz
08:45 bowtie azawawi, sorry, did not no it was now in cpan, thanks
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08:50 tome jdoe: ping?
09:04 bowtie Sniper, ping
09:06 bowtie Sniper, can you have a go with http://irclog.perlgeek.de/​padre/2011-08-10#i_4255187
09:09 azawawi szabgab: http://www.scintilla.org/ScintillaRelated.html now lists Wx::Scintilla and Padre
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10:01 Hyppolit svn: r15350 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15350
10:01 Hyppolit feature_devel_endstats: Padre Run script now supports Devel::EndStats which shows various statistics at the end of program run
10:01 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/
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10:03 Hyppolit svn: r15351 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15351
10:03 Hyppolit Tidy Changes a bit from previous commit
10:03 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
10:07 bowtie azawawi, are you aware that return no jumps two lines at a time :(
10:08 bowtie oops no -> now
10:08 azawawi huh?
10:12 Hyppolit # 1286 :  Too many newlines pressing ENTER on a blank line (new defect) by Sewi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1286#comment:1 ]
10:33 Sewi where is that folding icon gone?
10:36 bowtie Ouch, svn padre revison: 15351, when I open Plugin Manager, it kills Padre with lots of screen such as : DIE: syntax error at /usr/src/Padre/Padre/lib/Padre/Browser/Document.pm line 88, near ",package Padre::Wx::Editor"
10:36 bowtie BEGIN not safe after errors--compilation aborted at /usr/src/Padre/Padre/lib/Padre/Browser/Document.pm line 90.
10:48 Hyppolit svn: r15352 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15352
10:48 Hyppolit More cleaning up of the functions stuff
10:48 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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10:58 bowtie Opps sorry got nickers in twist, previous irc of mine is rubbish :(
10:58 bowtie Alias, ping
10:59 bowtie Alias, http://irclog.perlgeek.de/​padre/2011-08-09#i_4253816
10:59 Hyppolit svn: r15353 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15353
10:59 Hyppolit Fix #1286: Too many newlines
10:59 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
10:59 Hyppolit # 1286 :  Too many newlines pressing ENTER on a blank line (closed defect) by Sewi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1286#comment:2 ]
11:00 Sewi Same thing as most recent Padre tickets: One hour of searching per line of bugfix commit :-(
11:01 bowtie Alias, with M::I how do we do 'install_share' for a Plugin ?
11:04 azawawi Sewi: Alias was playing with folding stuff. i guess he made it a feature or something
11:06 Sewi azawawi: Not really, ->_get_line_by_number returned the line's content without trailing EOL, but ->GetLine includes the EOL. The auto_intend method didn't expect this :)
11:07 bowtie Alias, Question, I was looking at diff, as you pointed me there and found this:
11:07 bowtie package Padre::MimeTypes;
11:07 bowtie patch => 'text/x-patch',
11:07 bowtie line: 301, lexer => Wx::wxSTC_LEX_DIFF,    # CONFIRMED
11:07 bowtie indicates that this has bean implemted, but is not inplemented,
11:07 bowtie Q2, how do I produce a Text::Diff Unified header, and why do we want to implement two methods of generating a diff? Happy un-Birthday :)
11:09 azawawi Sewi: ah i see...
11:09 azawawi bowtie: Text::Diff::Unified ?
11:10 Sewi azawawi: I suspected it to be a feature, because a empty line isn't that bad in some cases, gives source more structure, but now I'm happy it turned out to be a bug, so just fixing, no discussion :)
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11:11 * azawawi is tracking down which Padre build broke "Open In file browser" in Win7
11:11 Hyppolit svn: r15354 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15354
11:11 Hyppolit Refactoring the function list code a bit more
11:11 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/t/
11:12 Alias What do people think about the idea of moving all Wx::wxFoo constants to Wx::Foo
11:12 * Sewi doesn't care
11:12 Hyppolit svn: r15355 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15355
11:12 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
11:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
11:12 Alias (goes to stops while people reply)
11:12 bowtie Alias, I am happy to look at using Diff with Padre, If I do this as a plugin in the first instance, are you going to show me how to implement in trunk when complete
11:13 Alias Sure
11:13 azawawi bowtie: what exactly do you want to implement?
11:13 Alias If at all possible, please do it with native perl modules (i.e. Text::Diff I guess)
11:13 Alias azawawi, I want "Apply diff to File" and "Apply diff to Project" to work
11:13 azawawi that's the plan
11:13 Alias The ones greyed out in the menus
11:13 Alias Because I personally HATE patches
11:14 Alias BEcause there's not really any recent native windows stuff for them
11:14 Alias recent -> decent
11:14 azawawi Alias: i am planning to write side-by-side diff Padre window to be re-used by other stuff... (e.g. refactoring)
11:14 azawawi Alias: but first http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/911
11:14 Alias Sounds handy
11:15 Alias Yeah, that would be neat
11:15 Alias I'm slowly inching towards a smarter open selection
11:15 bowtie Alias, have a look at meld, http://meld.sourceforge.net/, why don't you just port it to ms
11:16 Alias That, if you have Foo::Bar::baz selected, will open Foo::Bar and scroll to the function declaration of baz
11:16 Alias bowtie: Because I should be able to just apply a patch in Padre and it magically works
11:16 azawawi Alias: the best svn integration i have seen is in IntelliJ
11:16 azawawi Alias: you delete a file, you get a dialog to ask to svn delete... or not
11:17 Alias Yup
11:17 azawawi Alias: you add a file, you can preview changes before saving...
11:17 Alias 3rd generation project browser API needed at some point, that builds in vcs awareness out the box
11:17 Alias I got other stuff to do first
11:17 bowtie Alias, azawawi, do the pair of you want me to progress with Padre::Plugin::Diff ?
11:18 Alias Please
11:18 Alias Focus on patch file application, per file and per project
11:18 Alias Generating diffs is usually a thing for the version control plugins
11:18 Alias But application is missing
11:19 Alias Padre::Plugin::Patch would be a fine name too
11:20 Alias (Since the missing functionality is more about patching than diffing)
11:20 * Alias actually does shops this time
11:20 bowtie Alias, ok, as far as name is concerned there were only two options, so I got it wrong :)
11:20 bowtie azawawi, can you implement 'application/x-patch' => 'Padre::Document::Patch'
11:21 azawawi im going to invest my time writing a generic side-by-side visual diff tool
11:21 azawawi s/diff tool/diff window/
11:21 bowtie azawawi, but we still need the mime type, so it might as well be in trunk
11:22 azawawi bowtie: you can add it in the plugin
11:22 azawawi bowtie: take a look at Padre::Plugin::XS
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11:23 bowtie azawawi, ok will put in Padre::Plugin::Patch
11:24 azawawi bowtie: cool
11:24 azawawi Open in file browser is broken in 0.88
11:25 bowtie Alias, with M::I how do we do 'install_share' for a Plugin ?
11:25 waxhead stupid internet connection..
11:26 azawawi Alias: ... :)
11:26 azawawi Alias: If we are on Windows, disable Win32::SetChildShowWindow so that calls to system() or qx() won't spawn visible command line windows.
11:26 azawawi Alias: Open in file browser (explorer.exe) uses system(1, ...)
11:26 bowtie szabgab, please will you create Padre::Plugin::Patch in svn and grant me rw :)
11:32 Alias azawawi, in which case we need to locally switch it back
11:33 Alias szabgab, or just give him global write already?
11:34 Alias Actually, it shouldn't do system at all
11:34 Alias It should probably run something in a thread
11:34 Alias So there's no foreground blocking
11:36 waxhead is Padre a distribution or  a package?
11:36 waxhead I know it's an application
11:36 azawawi Alias: nah... executeandwait(cmd.exe /C explorer.exe) :)
11:36 Alias Distribution
11:36 Alias A package is "package Foo;"
11:37 Alias A module is "package Foo;" in a file called Foo.pm
11:37 azawawi the perl tidy svn commit warning is really troublesome... how about we switch it off
11:37 Alias A distribution is Foo-Bar
11:37 Alias A release is Foo-Bar-1.23.tar.gz
11:37 azawawi nobody is actually tidying up his code
11:37 Alias Until someone implements automatic project tidy in Padre
11:38 bowtie azawawi, look at #1239 I used the status bar patch in ticket
11:38 Hyppolit # 1239 :  Padre::Plugin::PerlTidy, patch for using perltidyrc from trunk/tools when in dev (assigned enhancement) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1239#comment:2 ]
11:40 Hyppolit svn: r15356 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15356
11:40 Hyppolit Nudge
11:40 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
11:41 Hyppolit svn: r15357 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15357
11:41 Hyppolit Fix "open in file browser" failure under Windows 7 as a result of r15174
11:41 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Util/
11:43 azawawi Alias: https://github.com/ssbarnea/tend​o/blob/master/tendo/singleton.py
11:44 azawawi Alias: working single instance implementation in beloved python
11:46 Alias That's fairly shit
11:47 Alias For starters, it allows only one instance across all users
11:47 Alias It does at least support windows though
11:47 Alias And the idea of delete to lock is interesting
11:47 azawawi aha...
11:47 azawawi i liked it also
11:47 azawawi at least we can use it for win32
11:48 azawawi since padre.exe hangs a lot
11:48 Alias There's an even better approach in Perl
11:48 Alias Unix only, but did you know you can flock __DATA__ ?
11:48 Alias Perl creates a filehandle for __DATA__
11:48 Alias And you can lock it in unix
11:48 Alias So you get lock-file-free single instance
11:49 azawawi aha
11:49 Alias The script becomes it's own lockfile
11:49 azawawi so what are we waiting for? :)
11:49 Alias You want a single-execution lock?
11:49 Alias Why? To prevent two fast executions of padre.exe resulting in two instances despite being configured to be single instance?
11:50 azawawi we need to fix this
11:50 azawawi i am sick of killing padre.exe and waiting for windows to cleanup the unused port...
11:51 azawawi if "Edit with Padre" is going to succeed, we need single instance to be fail-proof
11:51 azawawi on win32
11:51 Alias I haven't really had any problems
11:52 azawawi i have... since i use it :)
11:52 azawawi on win7
11:52 azawawi vista
11:52 Alias I've seen padre take a few seconds to shut down...
11:52 azawawi xp
11:52 azawawi perl 5.12.3
11:52 Alias Never had the time to investigate exactly why it takes that few seconds
11:53 azawawi hmm DB shutdown?
11:53 Alias Nope, I run a vacuum but it's always pretty fast
11:53 Alias I suspect perhaps threads not being joined or something
11:58 Hyppolit svn: r15358 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15358
11:58 Hyppolit Noting Padre::Document breakage
11:58 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
12:02 Hyppolit svn: r15359 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15359
12:02 Hyppolit Shortening a few ->main->ide->config to ->config
12:02 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
12:04 Hyppolit svn: r15360 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15360
12:04 Hyppolit Comment update
12:04 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
12:07 waxhead azawawi, what branch or version series of scintilla are you working on now?
12:09 Hyppolit svn: r15361 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15361
12:09 Hyppolit Fixed Changes. azawawi--
12:09 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
12:09 azawawi waxhead: latest
12:09 * azawawi brb
12:10 waxhead so 2.x?
12:12 Hyppolit svn: r15362 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15362
12:12 Hyppolit Pointless ->braces() always seem to distract me, it's not perlish
12:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Browser/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/Perl/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/File/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/Wizard/ trunk/Padre/script/ trunk/Padre/share/examples/wx/ trunk/Padre/t/ trunk/Padre/t/files/ trunk/Padre/xt/
12:17 waxhead bowtie, ping
12:18 bowtie waxhead, pong, active :)
12:18 waxhead bowtie, hey.. what's the best link to your cookbook stuff on the wiki?
12:20 bowtie waxhead, http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/wiki/PadrePluginDialog is main page with recipes off it
12:20 waxhead and this is about making it simpler for new programmers to get started yeah?
12:21 azawawi waxhead: latest 2.28
12:21 waxhead azawawi, thanks...
12:21 bowtie waxhead, yes, it's covers the wx dialog and creation to make pretty plugins
12:25 Hyppolit svn: r15363 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15363
12:25 Hyppolit The Parser Tool dialog now obeys plugin_unload correctly
12:25 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool/lib/Padre/Plugin/
12:25 Alias I wonder if we should make plugins Wx::Objects
12:25 Alias That way, they could be the parent of all their dialogs, and doing $plugin->Destroy would delete all of it recursively
12:26 waxhead Alias, is it the sydney roller derby league you're apart of?
12:26 Alias Yep
12:26 bowtie Alias, would that mean they could use  wx:frames
12:26 Alias I still don't see the frame bug you describe
12:27 bowtie Alias, look at the raw fbp and gen the frame one, its plug compatible with code.
12:28 submersible_toaster Alias: YES
12:28 bowtie loads once only, then kills padre with no errors
12:28 submersible_toaster they could also catch events nicely
12:28 Alias submersible_mib, to the Wx::Object thing?
12:28 submersible_toaster affirmative
12:29 Alias I wonder if Wx::Objects are even hashrefs
12:29 submersible_toaster IIRC once a wx::object is destroyed - it's event subscriptions are cleaned up
12:29 Alias Yup, that would be the idea
12:29 Alias hrm
12:30 submersible_toaster core plugin should provide this .... yesterday
12:30 Alias On the downside, it makes plugins heavier
12:30 Alias You can put your handlers stuff in a MyPlugin::Wx
12:30 submersible_toaster one wx object heavier ?
12:30 Alias ooo
12:30 Alias Wait, might be a bad idea
12:30 Alias Plugins need to enable/disable
12:30 submersible_toaster right
12:30 Alias And disable needs to remove event stuff anyway
12:30 Alias So we lose the free thing
12:31 submersible_toaster huh ?
12:31 Alias So when a plugin is disabled, it is supposed to clean up everything
12:31 waxhead submersible_toaster, Alias, any doco  or a page to point people to try out Madre?
12:31 Alias disabled, not deleted
12:31 submersible_toaster you could lazy create it and let plugin::manager or ::handle do the work a standard way.
12:32 submersible_toaster isn't a plugin supposed to effectively unload itself on disable anyhow
12:32 Alias It's meant to unload everything except the top level class
12:32 Hyppolit svn: r15364 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15364
12:32 Hyppolit Added 'Hunting a Padre bug' by Sebastian Willing (Sewi++)
12:32 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/
12:33 submersible_toaster right - including destroying the instance that was enabled ..
12:33 Alias no
12:33 Alias That's up to the editor
12:33 waxhead is Madre experimetal or early work?
12:33 waxhead or both?
12:33 submersible_toaster port of Madre-Sync to dancer.
12:33 Alias Padre may still want to ask the plugin about it's name or registrations or what not
12:33 submersible_toaster early but functional
12:34 submersible_toaster Alias: if nobody yet needs those things as object methods - who cares ?
12:34 Alias In any case, there's no such thing as Wx::Object
12:34 Alias We can't make an abstract object
12:34 submersible_toaster there's a flyweight one somewhere ... thought i was using it someplace
12:36 waxhead what's the url to get a login?
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12:37 submersible_toaster waxhead: you mean register a new one or to auth?
12:37 waxhead yeah register new
12:37 submersible_toaster if you hit / it should be linked.
12:39 waxhead http://sync.perlide.org/register
12:39 submersible_toaster http://sync.perlide.org/register
12:39 submersible_toaster get returns a form - put attempts to create the user
12:39 submersible_toaster no implementation of del yet i think
12:41 waxhead Hyppolit SyncServer is http://sync.perlide.org/register
12:41 Hyppolit SyncServer was unknown
12:41 Hyppolit SyncServer is now http://sync.perlide.org/register
12:41 waxhead SyncServer
12:42 waxhead Hyppolit SyncServer
12:42 waxhead SyncServer?
12:42 Hyppolit SyncServer is http://sync.perlide.org/register
12:42 waxhead Hmm..
12:42 waxhead Hyppolit forget SyncServer
12:42 waxhead does Hyppolit not forget?
12:42 waxhead Hyppolit SyncServerRegister is http://sync.perlide.org/register
12:42 Hyppolit SyncServerRegister was unknown
12:42 Hyppolit SyncServerRegister is now http://sync.perlide.org/register
12:42 waxhead SyncServerRegister?
12:42 Hyppolit SyncServerRegister is http://sync.perlide.org/register
12:43 submersible_toaster tasty
12:43 waxhead szabgab, how do you get Hyppolit to forget something?
12:43 waxhead Hyppolit SyncServer is
12:45 submersible_toaster Alias: In wxPerl, custom event classes should be derived from Wx::PlEvent and Wx::PlCommandEvent.
12:47 submersible_toaster no wait -
12:50 Alias hrm
12:50 Alias There's a bunch of other namespaces with Pl*
12:51 Alias PlWindow... PlControl...
12:57 submersible_toaster PLEventHandler mayhap
12:57 Alias That's for throwing shit from background to foreground, handy the foundation of an extensible plugin system
13:06 waxhead hey.. those changes in 0.89 in the Changes file should probably be under 0.90 shouldn't they?
13:06 waxhead 0.89 is where you get to say you've broken an API?
13:11 azawawi Alias: any reason why we have HTML::Entities and HTML::Parser in Padre's Makefile.PL ?
13:11 Alias LWP I think
13:11 Alias Might be a good idea to port to HTTP::Tiny or something
13:12 Alias waxhead: Yep
13:12 submersible_toaster hehe - the find dialog doesn't crush horizontally
13:12 azawawi List::MoreUtils is also used only once...
13:12 azawawi in all of Padre
13:13 Alias waxhead: Because it's what plugins should set as their new compatibility version
13:13 Alias azawawi, it might be used recursively by something else
13:13 Alias Which would be why I didn't factor it out earlier
13:13 azawawi ok
13:13 Alias You need to generate the full graph to do dependency analysis properly, with an eye to removing deps completely
13:14 azawawi which tools do you use for that?
13:14 Alias CPANDB has graphing logic
13:15 Hyppolit svn: r15365 | waxhead++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15365
13:15 Hyppolit updating with release announcement link
13:15 Hyppolit trunk/template.padre.perlide.org/data/
13:17 waxhead right.. well i'm about to fall asleep... which isn't so bad given I'm in bed already...
13:18 waxhead release announcement has been done.. not the usual sort I do, too many changes this time...
13:18 azawawi waxhead: thanks
13:18 azawawi waxhead++
13:19 waxhead I promise a shorter release time frame, but only if we get some stability long enough to prevent the merge and branch again process
13:19 waxhead Check to see if I spelt your name right first.. :)
13:19 waxhead oo.. battery is about to run out now too.
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13:27 sugar bold keywords it's very very bad idea
13:27 sugar but 0.88 seems good
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13:31 waxhead night
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13:51 azawawi sugar: why is that?
13:52 azawawi sugar: i remember that you were interested in porting solarized over to Padre
13:52 sugar i've ported it =)
13:52 azawawi and where is it? :)
13:52 azawawi great
13:54 sugar it's bad because bold is shift string, and then letters will not be mono wide
13:54 azawawi i see
13:54 azawawi the idea was Padre wasnt doing Perl keywords in the first place :)
13:54 sugar https://github.com/sugar84/padre-solarized
13:54 Hyppolit Changeset #84 http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/84
13:55 azawawi bold or not... i dont really care :)
13:55 azawawi since im not a color expert
13:55 sugar i understand
13:55 sugar =)
13:55 azawawi :)
13:55 sugar this is beta version, i use it every day now,but want to feedback
13:56 sugar and i want to do javascript very well, but there are some complexities
13:57 * azawawi tries it
13:58 sugar now i've been back from vacation, and will do it in nearest weekend
13:58 azawawi Padre::Wx::Editor is fairly old in your github repo
13:59 sugar yes
13:59 sugar i updated to 0.88 few minutes ago
14:00 sugar today after work i'll see it
14:00 azawawi remind me again... where is the change Padre 'style'  feature
14:03 sugar ??
14:05 Alias azawawi, you make a new .yml file and put it into style directory under config root
14:05 Alias And it gets picked up on next restart
14:05 azawawi sure but where is the change style option in the GUI...
14:08 sugar tools
14:08 azawawi cool
14:08 azawawi thanks
14:09 sugar =)
14:10 azawawi sugar: too dark
14:10 Hyppolit svn: r15366 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15366
14:10 Hyppolit Changed the layout
14:10 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool​/lib/Padre/Plugin/ParserTool/
14:12 sugar yes, but it saves my eyes
14:12 sugar you from south county?
14:13 azawawi south country?
14:13 sugar there many light, especialy at day
14:13 sugar i'm from mostly north country, Russia
14:14 sugar here is poor lightness
14:14 sugar and light colorscheme damges eyes
14:15 sugar forget it, it's my own opinion
14:17 azawawi no really im interested in this talk
14:17 azawawi i think it has its uses when you're outside, right?
14:19 sugar yes, or if your office lighted much
14:19 sugar such mine
14:19 sugar but solarized has light side =)
14:19 sugar http://ethanschoonover.com/solarized​http://ethanschoonover.com/solarized
14:27 Hyppolit svn: r15367 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15367
14:27 Hyppolit The functions and syntax check windows was not being cleared properly when a document does not provide task_functions or task_syntax
14:27 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
14:33 Hyppolit svn: r15368 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15368
14:33 Hyppolit updated Changes
14:33 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
14:35 sugar oh, sorry i wrong dark scheme - for dark office, light - for light
14:36 sugar azawawi: do you know why in my colorcheme default color is black, but i don't include it .yml file?
14:37 submersible_toaster not bad solarized
14:37 azawawi stc default setting
14:37 azawawi let me check
14:39 azawawi Alias: ping
14:41 sugar wxSTC_STYLE_DEFAULT: - is this?
14:41 azawawi sugar: yup
14:42 sugar ok, thanks
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14:46 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wi​ki/PadrePluginCookbookRecipie05 changed by bowtie
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14:55 Alias sugar: Wow, you've put some serious work into Solarized
14:56 Alias sugar: Can we use it as our default colour scheme?
14:57 azawawi Alias: ping
14:57 Alias ?
14:57 azawawi Alias: :)
14:57 azawawi Alias: Digest::JHash is 2x faster than Digest::MD5
14:58 azawawi Alias: syntax checker is really bad when it is inaccurate with the length short circuit that we have in Syntax.pm
14:58 Alias Yup, I haz plans
14:58 sugar yes
14:58 Alias Revisioning the editor per change on dwell
14:58 sugar but i don't finished it yet
14:58 Alias sugar: Thankfully, we love unfinished stuff!
14:58 azawawi Alias: try removing a character from $self and then adding an incorrect one... and you'll find that syntax checker fails to update correctly
14:59 azawawi Alias: a second enter actually does that...
14:59 azawawi Alias: the length check is bad
15:00 azawawi Alias: i can rewrite it as a feature_accurate_syntax_checker :)
15:01 Alias We need a dwell on the editor in general
15:01 azawawi Alias: performance is important when the results are correct
15:01 Alias You know how the undo updates on dwell?
15:02 azawawi now im lost again with the dwell stuff :)
15:02 azawawi dwell = do well? :)
15:02 Alias You've seen how undo works right?
15:02 Alias It comes in chunks
15:02 Alias Whenever there is a pause in typing
15:03 Alias It's a "dwell"
15:03 Alias An event that fires only after activity has ceased for X time
15:03 sugar in nearest time i plan to finish it
15:04 Alias It means the event doesn't need to fire every single change, but will fire whenever there is a change
15:04 Alias It would mean we could remove the shortcut altogether
15:04 Alias Cause we could trust that every time it fired there was actual work to do
15:04 azawawi true and we could simply it further...
15:04 azawawi compile-on-save..
15:04 azawawi when you save, syntax check...
15:04 azawawi simple
15:05 Alias That would require that you save...
15:05 Alias I like to have syntax update as I go
15:05 Alias Just not refiring every single character
15:05 azawawi JHash is faster 2x... though
15:05 azawawi and it is integer comparison
15:06 azawawi s/is/is an/
15:06 shadowpaste "azawawi" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "Patch for Syntax" (28 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/131111
15:08 Alias Hey, it's an improvement
15:08 Alias I'll do the dwell thing later
15:09 azawawi cool, i'll commit it then :)
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15:12 Hyppolit svn: r15369 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15369
15:12 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
15:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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15:14 Hyppolit svn: r15370 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15370
15:14 Hyppolit The syntax checker is now more accurate when typing faster by using Digest::JHash instead of text length short-circuiting
15:14 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
15:20 shadowpaste "azawawi" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "27_task_signal strikes back" (9 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/131112
15:29 * azawawi iftar &
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15:43 bowtie would somebody like to add Digest::JHash to Padre Makefile.PL :)
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15:56 Hyppolit svn: r15371 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15371
15:56 Hyppolit Completed first useful version of the parser tool
15:56 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-ParserTool​/lib/Padre/Plugin/ParserTool/
16:21 Alias People might want to take a look at that thing
16:21 Alias I'm thinking of core'ifying it
16:21 Alias Or something close to it
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17:18 Ravenhall Greetings folks... have a quick question on Padre - which I love, by the way. I'm on 0.86 on Win7 32bit, and the 'Default Projects Directory' under Tools->Preferences doesn't seem to work or even save the value. Should I submit this as a new bug?
17:19 Ravenhall I was thinking of just upgrading to 0.88 and seeing if it works then, but thought I should check first.
17:31 Ravenhall Well I guess I'm gonna upgrade to 0.88 and see if it works there. If not, I'll see about submitting a bug against the latest version.
17:48 Ravenhall Nope looks like in 0.88 it still doesn't work, although it's moved to the Behavior panel. I also tried setting it by clicking the 'Advanced' button and updating the value. It looks to have saved the value when I exit Padre and restart it, but the Projects directory is still showing the 'default value' location.
18:07 Hyppolit # 1288 :  Enter inserts two blank lines (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1288 ]
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18:53 Hyppolit svn: r15372 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15372
18:53 Hyppolit Fix #1287: Perl is not Java
18:53 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
18:54 Hyppolit svn: r15373 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15373
18:54 Hyppolit tidy up
18:54 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
18:55 Hyppolit # 1287 :  Running find in files crashes Padre (closed defect) by Sewi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1287#comment:1 ]
18:55 szabgab Ravenhall: bug report I guess
18:55 szabgab do you already have an account on our trac?
19:02 Ravenhall szabgab: I don't yet. The trac indicated to post here first.
19:04 szabgab lets' try this:
19:04 szabgab Hyppolit: trac!
19:04 Hyppolit Trac registration opened for $trac_timeout minutes. Please visit http://padre.perlide.org/trac/register to register
19:04 szabgab heh, stupid bug :)
19:04 szabgab but it should be open now
19:06 Hyppolit svn: r15374 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15374
19:06 Hyppolit fix interpolation bug
19:06 Hyppolit trunk/Hyppolit/lib/
19:06 Sewi :)
19:08 szabgab I have to get up at 2 am tomorrow to catch my flight to riga
19:08 szabgab I should go to sleep now :)
19:08 szabgab or shall I skip this night?
19:09 Hyppolit Trac registration closed
19:09 Sewi enjoy riga, nice city
19:09 Sewi Many very big and very lighted christmas trees - even if I don't think that they're currently lighted :)
19:10 Sewi If you got some time, look out for the building with the black cat's ass pointing to the townhall and let someone explain the story :-)
19:10 Ravenhall Hrmm looks like I missed the window as I was working on something else. Can we try again?
19:10 szabgab oh so we have the perl conf there anticipating that Chrismas might come this time?
19:10 szabgab Hyppolit: trac!
19:10 Hyppolit Trac registration opened for $trac_timeout minutes. Please visit http://padre.perlide.org/trac/register to register
19:11 szabgab I should have restarted Hyppolit :)
19:11 szabgab Ravenhall: that should say 5 minutes :)
19:11 szabgab Sewi: btw Hyppolit listens to everyone with that command
19:12 Hyppolit svn: r15375 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15375
19:12 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
19:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
19:12 szabgab so feel free to do it yourself next time
19:12 Sewi ok
19:12 Ravenhall cool, I'm in. I'll put the bug report in. I hope to be able to contribute more in the future, seeing as my company lets me give back a bit
19:12 Ravenhall cool thx
19:12 Sewi Alias: Do you test any of your changes before committing?
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19:12 szabgab Ravenhall: cool, thank you
19:13 szabgab and thank your company in our name :)
19:13 Sewi Alias: I spent about three hours fixing really small bugs from your last commit breaking thing which were working before.
19:14 szabgab Sewi: as you could see he is committing even changes that include syntax error which prevent padre from running
19:14 szabgab so I don't think Alias even tries to run padre before committing
19:14 szabgab unfortunatelly
19:14 Sewi szabgab: Yes, it made the first bug hunting today (double newlines) not easier
19:14 szabgab I read it
19:15 szabgab but I should really go to sleep now
19:15 szabgab night &
19:15 Hyppolit svn: r15376 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15376
19:15 Hyppolit Make backup working again #105
19:15 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/
19:15 Sewi night & have a good flight
19:15 bowtie Sewi, Test is an English word :)
19:15 Hyppolit Trac registration closed
19:16 Sewi We might want to back a box of before-commit-tests and send them down to australia :-)
19:16 Hyppolit # 105 :  recover files when padre has crashed (new enhancement) by Sewi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/105#comment:9 ]
19:16 Sewi I don't do deep testing before every commit, but usually I run Padre at least once and try out my changes.
19:17 bowtie Sewi, do you think 'change control'  is another ENGLISH word ;)
19:18 bowtie Sewi, I dev on one mc and test on another
19:20 bowtie Sewi, may be you should start an English to Australian wiki phrase book :)
19:20 Hyppolit svn: r15377 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15377
19:20 Hyppolit tidy up
19:20 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/DB/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Document/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ trunk/Padre/t/ trunk/Padre/xt/
19:21 bowtie Sewi, don't forget to add 'tidy up' :)
19:21 bowtie Sewi++
19:24 Hyppolit # 1289 :  Default Project Folder option non-operational on Windows 7 (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1289 ]
19:26 Ravenhall szabgab: Thanks will be passed on. Looking forward to helping out.
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19:32 Hyppolit svn: r15378 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15378
19:32 Hyppolit Upgrade backup interval
19:32 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
19:41 Hyppolit # 1268 :  Padre sometimes crashes on right click in editor window (new defect) by Sewi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1268#comment:2 ]
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19:45 zenog_ hi
19:46 bowtie hi
19:46 zenog_ I have trouble installing Padre via CPAN on Debian testing.
19:48 zenog_ ... well I guess it is because make is not installed (fresh OS installation on that computer ...)
19:48 Sewi apt-get install build-essential
19:49 bowtie zenog_ you will also have to force
19:49 eolh has anyone seen this?  running padre 0.88 is causing symantec endpoint protection to flag it as a virus and remove the executable
19:49 bowtie zenog_, also trunk now needs  installed Digest::JHash,
19:51 zenog_ eolh: There was a report about some antivirus software complaining on Windows.
19:51 bowtie eolh, is that it complaining about an app that has been upgraded out side of synapitc
19:53 bowtie eolh, oops, just create an app profile for your antivirus software
19:53 eolh no this is on win7, saying it's infected with a Bloodhound.Sonar.9 virus
19:53 zenog_ #1276
19:53 Hyppolit # 1276 :  Compilation of padre.exe triggers virus warning (new defect) by Sewi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1276#comment:4 ]
19:53 zenog_ eolh: Maybe related to this one?
19:54 eolh perhaps
19:54 zenog_ Now I get this error when installing Padre via CPAN: t/15-locale.t .............. 1/7 21:52:19: Error: Cannot set locale to 'en_GB'.
19:59 Sewi zenog, bowtie: Do you have a minute for a short test? Please open any perl file containing a "sub" and enable code folding from the view menu (if it isn't enabled anyway).
20:00 Sewi Do you have a + icon in from of the sub? (Click on the - icon if you see it)
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20:01 zenog_ Sewi: No current Padre on this computer right now, sorry.
20:02 Sewi Und dann traust Du Dich in den Channel? ;-))
20:02 Sewi thanks anyway
20:02 zenog_ Sewi: zenog hat nen aktuellen Padre, aber der ist gerade nicht da ;-)
20:02 bowtie Sewi,  on 15378 I just get a column between line numbers ans code
20:04 bowtie oops ans -> and
20:07 tome Hi guys, I just saw Sebastian's email on the dev list- one of the things he mentioned was that a number of critical fixes were put in today. Is there a plan to spin another cpan release (and i'll push a new DMG out as well)
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20:21 Sewi zenog: Die Schelte war auch nur scherzhaft gemeint, nicht ernst nehmen :)
20:22 Sewi tome: Don't know, I hope someone will reply to my mail.
20:22 Sewi bowtie: Thanks, the - icon also seems to be gone some times now :-(
20:24 bowtie Sewi, is this a new enhancement
20:24 Sewi bowtie: #1270?
20:24 Hyppolit # 1270 :  Padre::Plugin::SpellCheck, fix for missing version (new enhancement) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1270#comment:1 ]
20:25 Sewi I thought so, but I didn't read all of it and didn't want to change it without knowing what's going on.
20:27 bowtie Sewi, Padre::Plugin now requires all plugins to have a version otherwise it throws an error,
20:52 Sewi gn8
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