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IRC log for #padre, 2011-08-12

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00:51 Hyppolit svn: r15418 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15418
00:51 Hyppolit - TRACE() calls now use epoch microsecond timestamps instead of localtime
00:51 Hyppolit to make subsecond temporal relationships more obvious (ADAMK)
00:51 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
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00:53 Hyppolit svn: r15419 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15419
00:53 Hyppolit - Converted outline from timer polling with length shortcutting to the new
00:53 Hyppolit dwell-refresh mechanism (ADAMK)
00:53 Hyppolit
00:53 Hyppolit Additionally, tweaked the ModEventMask for the editor so that on_change only fires for genuine content changes. The overly inclusive mod mask was causing on_change to fire on margin changes, and since the syntax highlight change margin ever on_change this was causing a timer-increment loop.
00:53 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
00:56 Hyppolit svn: r15420 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15420
00:56 Hyppolit Moved task_reset from view_close to the more generic view_stop
00:56 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
01:01 Hyppolit svn: r15421 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15421
01:01 Hyppolit - When the syntax checker is rescanning after a document change, clear the
01:01 Hyppolit window but do not change the margin (ADAMK)
01:01 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
01:02 Alias Right, that's all the view timers gone, and all content-inspecting shortcutting logic gone too, so the normal operations of Padre should involve a lot less CPU
01:03 Alias That's quite a bit of code deleted today
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01:10 Hyppolit svn: r15422 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15422
01:10 Hyppolit blockers.t now fails elegantly instead of dumping a bajillion line webpage to STDERR.
01:10 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/xt/
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01:29 Hyppolit svn: r15423 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15423
01:29 Hyppolit Don't underline the indent area
01:29 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
02:17 Hyppolit svn: r15424 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15424
02:17 Hyppolit Shortcut on is_unused documents properly again
02:17 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
02:20 Hyppolit svn: r15425 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15425
02:20 Hyppolit A few more shortcutting tweaks
02:20 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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03:17 Hyppolit svn: r15426 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15426
03:17 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
03:17 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
03:24 Hyppolit svn: r15427 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15427
03:24 Hyppolit When we load ':everything' don't load Padre::Util::Win32 unless we are on Windows
03:24 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/
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03:59 Hyppolit svn: r15428 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15428
03:59 Hyppolit Adding a new badcode.t test to look for methods being used that don't exist
03:59 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/xt/
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04:58 szabgab good morning from Riga
04:58 szabgab I see adam used our sleeping ours to change Padre inside out :)
04:59 * szabgab svn up
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05:10 Alias But it's a good inside out
05:10 Alias All the tools are both smaller and work better
05:10 Alias FunctionList, Outline and Syntax check
05:14 Alias Does anyone else see the editor just outright failing to highlight vast swathes of documents?
05:17 szabgab sometimes
05:17 szabgab and Ctrl-1 does not always work
05:18 szabgab using Wx::Scintilla
05:18 nobody Hello all... just want to report that the install/upgrade from CPAN instructions don't actually provide any instructions... just comments about installing.
05:20 szabgab nobody: where?
05:21 nobody at wiki url... http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/DownloadCPAN
05:22 szabgab nobody: I see, would you like to fix that?
05:22 nobody There is no "sudo ... " equivalent instructions for CPAN install / upgrade. So somebody unfamiliar with CPAN would not have a detailed "script" to follow...
05:24 szabgab probably someone unfamiliar with CPAN should not attempt to install from source :) but I might not have the right use cases in mind
05:26 nobody correct, you don't have the right use cases in mind...:) the notice for .88 just came out, fc14 repos still on .64, fc15 on .84, I'm sure that you see where this is going by now... :)
05:27 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/DownloadCPAN changed by szabgab
05:28 Hyppolit svn: r15429 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15429
05:28 Hyppolit Moving a couple of things earlier so they don't rerun for every document load
05:28 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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05:28 Alias Installing from cpan is a one line command on unix and windows
05:28 Alias Mac is more problematic
05:29 Alias On Windows it's just "cpan Padre" on the command line
05:29 Alias On Unix you use the cpanm curl one I guess
05:29 * Alias heads off for the weekend
05:33 nobody i'm willing to make edit to the wiki, or submit patches, since I'm trying to do this upg... the wikik mentions 3 scenarios... "You can download and install it using cpan, cpanm or CPANPLUS"...
05:34 nobody This is where I'm at on fc14... "As Padre has many dependencies probably the easiest is to install the binary distribution where available from the vendor (Mandriva, Fedora, Debian, FreeBSD) and then use cpanm to upgrade."
05:34 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/DownloadCPAN changed by szabgab
05:35 szabgab so are you in that group of people who are using Linux but does not yet(!) know how to install from CPAN ?
05:36 szabgab I guess you don't have an account on our Trac yet so follow this link and register:
05:36 szabgab Hyppolit: trac!
05:36 Hyppolit Trac registration opened for $trac_timeout minutes. Please visit http://padre.perlide.org/trac/register to register
05:36 szabgab where $trac_timeout is 5 :)
05:37 * submersible_mib contemplates Task::Padre::local::lib
05:37 submersible_mib or similar
05:37 szabgab submersible_mib: what would that do?
05:38 szabgab and where did you leave the toaster?
05:38 submersible_mib attempt to bootstrap a user local::lib , then jam padre into it
05:38 submersible_mib toaster stays @ home
05:38 szabgab that reminds us I am getting really hungry
05:40 nobody ...no, I'm in that group of of Linux users that rarely installs anything from CPAN, and wanted some clarification on the wiki... and to mention that actual instructions were missing... if it's reasonable to give somebody "yum install perl-Padre", then the equivalent for CPAN is also reasonable...
05:40 submersible_mib szabgab: there is some precedent for building dist packages that essentially provide just enough to cook the whole project from source/svn , there was a mythtv-svn.deb and rpm - enlightenment17 has something similar e17-svn IIRC
05:41 Hyppolit Trac registration closed
05:42 szabgab nobody: I am not sure I agree with that comparision but have you register to the wiki?
05:43 szabgab and pls check out that wiki page again, I made some changes that might already be what you meant
05:44 szabgab I personally prefer to use local::lib and not to overwrite the yum (or deb) based installation
05:44 nobody I haven't registered... is it required atm? if so, I will...
05:44 nobody I'll check...
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05:47 szabgab nobody: so ?
05:50 nobody okay, I'll register for the wiki...
05:51 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/DownloadCPAN changed by szabgab
05:51 szabgab breakfast&
05:54 nobody ok, I don't see where to register... I'm willing to write something up & submit it, if that helps... and thanks for the edits...
06:00 nobody szabgab: i'm not here to hassle anybody, so if you can give me a poc, I'll write something up and submit it... there's more than just the html that needs changing if it's to be changed... there's the linked text version & the readme on CPAN... otherwise, i'll come back when I have something and ask then...
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06:15 Hyppolit # 503 :  Action Toolbar vanishes in fullscreen mode. (new defect) by submersible_toaster  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/503#comment:1 ]
06:29 szabgab back from breakfast :)
06:29 szabgab nobody: are you still around?
06:29 Hyppolit # 1290 :  List Alternate colouring does not respect SystemSettings colours (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1290 ]
06:30 Hyppolit # 1290 :  List Alternate colouring does not respect SystemSettings colours (new defect) new attachment [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1290 ]
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06:49 Hyppolit # 1290 :  List Alternate colouring does not respect SystemSettings colours (new defect) by submersible_toaster  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1290#comment:1 ]
06:50 nobody yes, i'm still here... no breakfast for me :-(
06:51 szabgab Hyppolit: trac!
06:51 Hyppolit Trac registration opened for 5 minutes. Please visit http://padre.perlide.org/trac/register to register
06:51 szabgab nobody: then follow the above link
06:54 nobody ok, i'm registered...
06:55 szabgab then feel free to improve the content of the wiki
06:56 Hyppolit Trac registration closed
06:57 Hyppolit # 1290 :  List Alternate colouring does not respect SystemSettings colours (new defect) by submersible_toaster  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1290#comment:2 ]
06:57 nobody ok... i'm willing to do that... is there a review process for anything? otherwise i'll write up what i'm able to verify...
06:58 Hyppolit # 1290 :  Cooking up your own colours for controls and backgrounds is Rude! (new defect) by submersible_toaster  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1290#comment:3 ]
06:58 szabgab n strict review process but ask around the channel what people think
06:58 szabgab s/n/no/
06:58 submersible_mib szabgab: is the project/directory browser broken for u on trunk ?
06:59 nobody ok, when i have something, i'll ask for reviewers... right now i'm trying to get the pre-reqs installed... thanks for the help...
07:00 szabgab nobody: thank you for using Padre and caring !
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07:00 szabgab submersible_mib: it seems to be ok
07:01 Sewi gm
07:02 szabgab hi Sewi
07:02 szabgab you asked me sg yesterday I think
07:03 Sewi sg?
07:03 Hyppolit sg is not longer required and also a sandbox
07:04 Sewi What's sg?
07:04 szabgab sg=something
07:04 Sewi oh :-)
07:05 Sewi Yes, there may be an issue with the code folding icons. Would be great if you could enable code folding from the view menu for a second and look at a sub - line if there is a + or - before it.
07:05 Sewi Klick there and it should show the other icon
07:10 szabgab it should
07:10 szabgab but it does not
07:10 Sewi Ok, so we have an issue. Thanks for testing
07:10 Hyppolit svn: r15430 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15430
07:10 Hyppolit #1290 derive a ~sensible alternate list item background, based on system theme.
07:10 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
07:10 szabgab I see a - when I enabled the folding but when I click on it, there is no icon any more
07:11 szabgab now how do I get back my subs? :)
07:11 Sewi It depends, some people see the - icon and some don't see any icon.
07:11 Sewi Klick on where_the_icon_should_be
07:11 Sewi Or disable code folding again :)
07:11 Hyppolit # 1290 :  Cooking up your own colours for controls and backgrounds is Rude! (new defect) by submersible_toaster  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1290#comment:4 ]
07:11 szabgab well, my eyes are not good any more :)
07:11 szabgab I hate code folding :)
07:11 nobody szabgab: no problem... i'll be back when i get it working... thanks again...
07:11 szabgab so I turn it off
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07:12 Sewi same for me
07:12 Hyppolit svn: r15431 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15431
07:12 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
07:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
07:12 Sewi But there are people using it. I met a guy lately who folds everything each time he opens a file.
07:15 Hyppolit # 1291 :  Code folding icons missing (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1291 ]
07:15 Sewi What do you think about blockers being blockers?
07:16 Sewi I got no reply on this suggestion.
07:25 Hyppolit svn: r15432 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15432
07:25 Hyppolit #1290 - fast find text entry colours now derived from system theme.
07:25 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
07:30 szabgab Sewi: I was hoping to get input form other as well
07:31 szabgab I am in favor of taking this project more seriously :)
07:31 submersible_mib szabgab:  lock trunk/Padre from commits by anyone but the release manager.
07:31 submersible_mib :D
07:33 Sewi submersible: Freezing the project? :)
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07:52 asafiss anybody there?
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07:55 szabgab asafiss: sure there are poeple here
07:55 szabgab they are just working on things
07:55 Sewi yeah, I think so :)
07:57 szabgab I don't get this
07:57 szabgab I really don't
07:58 * Sewi feels guilty but doesn't know that szabgab is talking about :)
07:59 szabgab what did asafiss want and why did s/he leave?
08:00 Alias Probably testing Padre out and just wanted to see if the help thing worked
08:01 Sewi :)
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08:04 asafiss hi
08:04 asafiss anybody?
08:05 Alias welcome back
08:06 asafiss hi
08:06 asafiss Pretty new to padre debugging
08:08 asafiss I'd like to register for it
08:08 asafiss who do I need to talk to?
08:10 asafiss I'll be hanging around here just in case
08:10 szabgab asafiss: register?
08:10 szabgab what are you doing?
08:11 Alias He's reporting bugs, clearly :)
08:13 asafiss I saw on one of the links that I need to register to open a ticket,
08:13 asafiss and that it has to be done manually from someone here...
08:17 Hyppolit svn: r15433 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15433
08:17 Hyppolit Added ->clone to Padre::Config
08:17 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Config/ trunk/Padre/t/
08:18 asafiss so how do I do this? Or maybe the registry can be done through the website after all?
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08:24 szabgab Hyppolit: trac!
08:24 Hyppolit Trac registration opened for 5 minutes. Please visit http://padre.perlide.org/trac/register to register
08:24 szabgab asafiss: follow the link above
08:25 szabgab asafiss: but it is usually better to first ask around here regarding bugs or missing features
08:28 asafiss The bug in question happens to me when I select File->New->Perl Script/Module/Test - Padre just quits on me
08:28 asafiss if this is a bona fide bug, I'll get to work on it
08:29 szabgab which version of Padre?
08:29 Hyppolit Trac registration closed
08:29 asafiss Thank you, by the way, I'm registered now
08:30 Hyppolit svn: r15434 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15434
08:30 Hyppolit Added ->preview_config which generates a new valid config object representing the configuration that will result AFTER the preferences are saved.
08:30 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
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08:31 asafiss hi again
08:31 asafiss padre version is 0.89, on ubuntu 10.04
08:32 asafiss And the bug in question is: select File->New->Perl Script/Module/Test - Padre just quits.
08:32 asafiss if this is new, I'll add the ticket and get to work
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08:36 szabgab 0.89 ?
08:36 szabgab do you mean you checked out from SVN?
08:36 asafiss yes
08:37 asafiss I'm afraid so
08:37 szabgab interesting, that bug was fixed a while ago and it does not happen to me on trunk on Win 7
08:37 szabgab did you run padre from the command line?
08:37 szabgab does it have any output after ther crash?
08:38 asafiss I ran dev from the command line
08:38 asafiss didn't see any output on the terminal
08:38 asafiss But there must be some logfiles I can look into
08:39 szabgab by default there are no log files
08:39 szabgab try running dev --die
08:40 asafiss okay
08:40 asafiss hang on
08:40 szabgab though on second thought that might not help at all, hmm
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08:41 asafiss ran it
08:41 asafiss I get messages in the beginning about some things it can't find
08:42 asafiss then padre loads
08:42 asafiss When I did the new Script thing, it crashed again. No message on the terminal
08:43 asafiss there were things it couldn't locate on startup though.
08:43 asafiss maybe I can send you the dump
08:43 asafiss and padre did load, anyway
08:44 asafiss any advice?
08:46 Alias ok, hopefully this next commit won't break anything but I can't be entirely sure :/
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08:47 szabgab asafiss: I am trying to think what can be the issue
08:47 szabgab maybe somehow your version of padre is loading mixed libraries?
08:47 szabgab some old onese?
08:47 szabgab could you try to launch it and see what does Help About say about version ?
08:48 szabgab and also try to enabled the Developer Plugin and dump %INC to check if the modules loaded are from the SVN version
08:48 szabgab and not maybe from the installed version where this stuff was indeed broken
08:48 asafiss help about says the version is 0.89
08:48 szabgab Sewi: are you around to check this crash on Ubuntu?
08:49 asafiss I'll go dump INC
08:50 szabgab asafiss: otherwise just try to locate the old ticket for this and reoopen it with the new information
08:50 Hyppolit svn: r15435 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15435
08:50 Hyppolit Refactoring the way we set up Padre::Wx::Editor objects so we do less work and can apply different configs to different editors.
08:50 Hyppolit
08:50 Hyppolit Partially integrate these changes with the editor in the preferences dialog so it updates based on all unsaved changes made in the preference dialog.
08:50 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
08:50 szabgab and I can point you how to try to find the source of the problem
08:51 Alias My apologies if that causes any trouble
08:51 Alias It shouldn't, even though it won't work entirely the way it's supposed to
08:52 szabgab Alias: updated, it load
08:52 Alias Yup
08:52 Alias It it does something weird it would probably be changes to View menu settings not being reflected properly or something
08:53 Alias But nothing particularly disasterous
08:54 asafiss Hi
08:54 asafiss I if you can show me the source it would be great
08:54 asafiss I dumped the INCs, do you want to see them? How do I send them to you?
08:55 szabgab pastbin
08:55 szabgab pastebin?
08:55 asafiss pastbin?
08:56 szabgab pastebot?
08:56 Hyppolit pastebot is http://www.pastebot.net/
08:56 szabgab that's it : (
08:57 szabgab pastebot is also http://paste.scsys.co.uk/
08:57 szabgab Hyppolit:  pastebot is also http://paste.scsys.co.uk/
08:57 Hyppolit pastebot is now http://www.pastebot.net/ and also http://paste.scsys.co.uk/
08:59 asafiss Thanks. How can I copy the dump from the output? copying with ^C doesn't seem to work
09:00 asafiss got it, sorry
09:02 asafiss pasted now
09:02 szabgab now you only need to give us the URL :)
09:03 asafiss sorry http://www.pastebot.net/paste/kypRTP4rYtk/
09:12 szabgab BTW the other pastebot lets you select a channel saving you from this
09:14 szabgab asafiss: so it seems all the files are from the svn checkout so unless you have a mixed check out then this is a bug
09:14 szabgab I wonder if this is the old one came back hunting us or something new and why is it only on Ubuntu ?
09:14 szabgab and not on my Windows?
09:14 szabgab anyway please open a ticket or reopen the old one
09:14 shadowpaste "asafiss" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "INC dump for the new script crash" (377 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/131730
09:15 asafiss okay
09:16 asafiss I'll try to run this on windows too
09:16 asafiss I have to say that before I did the SVN checkout I had padre installed already. Maybe this caused it?
09:17 szabgab that's what I thought but it seems you are loading only the new files
09:17 szabgab so that should not matter
09:17 asafiss Also, how do I reopen the ticket, in case it is a real bug?
09:17 szabgab btw are you from .il ?
09:17 asafiss I'll try it from windows
09:17 asafiss yes, I am from .il
09:17 asafiss we met last pm meeting
09:17 szabgab ah that asaf :)
09:18 asafiss I wanted to start work on this sooner, but I had interviews that demanded Java skills
09:18 szabgab nice to see you here
09:18 asafiss nice to see you too
09:18 asafiss looks like a fun project, and I've started using it for my regular development
09:18 asafiss Anyway, I'll check it on my windows as well
09:18 szabgab at the bottom of the ticket there should be a place to change status I think, that's where you can reopen
09:19 asafiss how difficult is it to find?
09:19 szabgab the ticket?
09:19 asafiss yes
09:20 asafiss I can search for it, or, if there is a number, it could probably make it easier
09:21 szabgab yeahm if I knew the number that would not be a search :)
09:22 szabgab but I could not find it so
09:22 szabgab just open a new ticket
09:22 asafiss okay
09:22 asafiss I'll see if it's on my windows too, first
09:22 asafiss and open the ticket regardless
09:23 szabgab maybe we never had a proper ticket for this
09:23 szabgab anyway
09:24 dolmen I had a patch for the dev script for use of Devel::TraceUse that could have been useful to track the issue. Unfortunately I've not yet committed it and it is on a machine far away.
09:28 asafiss the windows check will take a while, as my computer is not the fastest on...
09:29 dolmen asafiss: perl -d:TraceUse=output:INC.txt ./dev
09:29 szabgab asafiss: you don't really need to check on windows
09:29 szabgab I'd rather see more people checking on Ubuntu
09:29 dolmen I'm on Ubuntu
09:29 dolmen what is the issue
09:30 szabgab File New Perl 4 Script  crashing in trunk
09:30 asafiss okay, I'll check just on ubuntu for now.
09:30 szabgab or 5 :)
09:30 asafiss though windows is interesting too
09:31 dolmen it works on my side
09:32 szabgab asafiss: so it might be some issue on your machine
09:32 asafiss it might be
09:33 asafiss does it still count as a bug?
09:33 dolmen asafiss: please run the command I gave above so I can compare your @INC with mine
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09:33 asafiss okay, I'll run it. wiat
09:33 asafiss sorry wait
09:33 kelem hi
09:33 szabgab asafiss: you can try to debug this also: open the lib/Padre/Wx/ActionLibray.pm  that's where all the actions
09:34 szabgab are defined that become menu items
09:34 szabgab hi kelem
09:34 kelem It's nice to see this new release of Padre... Thank you for your work guys
09:34 szabgab asafiss: you can find the "Perl 5 script" ther and try debugging by inserting print statements for example to see where does padre crash
09:35 szabgab kelem: you are welcome in the name of all the Padre developers :)
09:35 szabgab it is nice to get feedback
09:35 dolmen well, Devel::TraceUse seems to miss a lot of modules when running Padre...
09:35 kelem did you heard of a problem with signal task tests?
09:36 kelem -heard +hear
09:36 szabgab kelem: I don't recall
09:36 asafiss I'll do that
09:36 szabgab dolmen: there is a lot of late loading in Padre
09:36 asafiss I just needed to install the Devel::Trace first
09:37 dolmen szabgab: the problem is that it sees only the main thread with is is really light
09:38 kelem szabgab, upgrade to 0.88 fails there "t/27_task_signal.t line 74." on a linux machine... I don't know if it worth a bug report or just a force install
09:39 dolmen szabgab: oh, no, it's just that I'm not measuring the right thing: I'm measuring the 'dev' script, not the 'padre' script it is launching...
09:39 szabgab kelem: sure bug report pls
09:39 szabgab do you have an account on Trac already?
09:40 kelem yes I do.... just have to remember it
09:41 dolmen asafiss: forget my Devel::TraceUse request
09:42 szabgab dolmen: have you seen the developer plugin of padre?
09:42 szabgab it also has a dumper
09:43 dolmen dolmen: no, I'm not following Padre development enough
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09:44 szabgab dolmen: it comes with padre
09:44 azawawi good morning
09:44 szabgab try enabling it and see the dump entries
09:44 szabgab hi azawawi
09:45 azawawi i have a good surprise for Padre today :)
09:45 * azawawi puts the final touches
09:46 kelem hi azawawi
09:47 Hyppolit # 1292 :  File New Perl 5 Script/template/test crashing in trunk (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1292 ]
09:47 szabgab ohoh azawawi :)
09:47 shadowpaste "kelem" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "cpan install failed test in tast signal (if you have a hint while I'm looking for my track account)" (230 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/131779
09:47 kelem -tast +task
09:48 asafiss submitted.
09:48 asafiss I'll track it like you said
09:48 Hyppolit svn: r15436 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15436
09:48 Hyppolit Added some string variable interpolation in share/editor.pl
09:48 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/share/
09:49 Hyppolit # 1291 :  Code folding icons missing (new defect) by Sewi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1291#comment:1 ]
09:49 asafiss thanks Dolmen. Dropped the Devel thing
09:49 asafiss I'll start working with what I have
09:49 dolmen szabgab: where is that developer plugin? menu?
09:51 dolmen azawawi: Wx::Scintilla from CPAN (0.20) fails to install on my Ubuntu. You should have received my CPAN Testers report.
09:52 szabgab dolmen: Tools
09:52 szabgab it Plugin Manager should be used to enable the polugin
09:52 azawawi dolmen: strangely i didnt receive it yet
09:53 szabgab and then   Tools -> "Padre Developer tools"
09:53 azawawi dolmen: let me check metacpan.org
09:53 szabgab dolmen: azawawi cpan testers are about 1-3 days late due to heavey load
09:53 azawawi dolmen: it takes time...
09:53 dolmen szabgab: I don't have "Padre Developer Tools"
09:54 szabgab dolmen: do you have Plug-in Manager?
09:54 szabgab then open that one and see if there is a "Padre development tools" and make sure it is enabled
09:56 dolmen szabgab: ah, ok
09:56 Hyppolit # 916 :  Perl syntax highlighting: highlight interpolated variables and special characters in strings (new enhancement) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/916#comment:4 ]
09:57 dolmen szabgab: it is not as useful as Devel::TraceUse: version information is missing
09:58 Hyppolit # 1293 :  task signal test failed during CPAN Upgrade (0.86 to 0.88) (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1293 ]
09:58 szabgab dolmen: then fix it please :)
09:58 dolmen :)
09:58 szabgab or at least open a ticket with that info and wish list
09:59 dolmen szabgab: not today, but I'll do. I already hacked Devel::TraceUse
09:59 szabgab so you can later close it :)
10:00 Hyppolit svn: r15437 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15437
10:00 Hyppolit Early integration of the 'Perl variable interpolation' patch by Kein-Hong Man from Scintilla interest group. Yes, we're not before Scintilla trunk :)
10:00 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/cpp/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scint​illa/src/scintilla/include/ trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scintilla/src/scintilla/src/
10:00 azawawi surprise :)
10:01 szabgab :)
10:01 szabgab azawawi: we know you are tricksy like the Hobbits
10:02 szabgab just don't forget to push everything upstream
10:02 Hyppolit svn: r15438 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15438
10:02 Hyppolit Added the exact copy of perl-test-interpolation.pl by Kein-Hong Man (KHMan++) :)
10:02 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/share/
10:02 szabgab so we won't end up maintaining Scintilla for Python programmers :)
10:02 azawawi szabgab: it is in upstream
10:02 szabgab ah ok
10:02 azawawi szabgab: "Yes, we're not before Scintilla trunk" :)
10:03 azawawi szabgab: s/not//
10:03 szabgab NOT ?
10:03 azawawi szabgab: KHMan posted a LexPerl interpolation patch that i eagerly tested and applied  :)
10:03 szabgab I read it NOW : )
10:04 kelem the ticket for cpan update failed test has been added... I suspect others will report this problem too
10:04 azawawi was so excited...
10:04 * kelem don't understand all the subtleties about this scintilla versionning news, but it sounds nice ;)
10:05 azawawi kelem: Padre using Wx::STC by default which provide scintilla 1.7x (old)
10:05 azawawi kelem: s/using/uses/
10:05 kelem yup
10:06 azawawi kelem: once you install Wx::Scintilla from cpan and enable feature_wx_scintilla in Padre/Tool/Advanced
10:06 kelem i've followed recent news about this (but again, not understanding everyghing, only the big picture)
10:06 azawawi kelem: you get the latest editor engine from scintilla back ported in older wxWidgets for free :)
10:06 azawawi kelem: so basically you get newer features on an older platform
10:07 kelem ok, this is water clear now :)
10:07 azawawi kelem: without waiting for the long wxwidgets upgrade cycle
10:09 kelem and for someone who only knows that scintilla is the motor of the editor (I had never been sure if Scintilla was only about syntax highlighting or if it was also -as I suspect- the heart of the editor, dealing with buffers, cut and paste, etc), what brilliant new features will this good news bring?
10:10 azawawi basically you get the latest and great editor in Padre :)
10:10 azawawi 5.10 //
10:10 azawawi variable interpolation highlighting in strings
10:10 azawawi better folding support
10:10 szabgab perl 6 highlighting
10:10 azawawi *native* perl 6 highlighting
10:11 szabgab *fast* perl 6 highlighting
10:11 szabgab and new types of bugs :)
10:12 kelem sounds great....  so bad I'm stuck with 0.86 now :)
10:13 azawawi szabgab: bugs that can be at least fixed locally, not wait for wxWidgets to fix them :)
10:13 dolmen pastebot
10:13 szabgab pastebot?
10:13 Hyppolit pastebot is http://www.pastebot.net/ and also http://paste.scsys.co.uk/
10:13 szabgab dolmen: need ? at the end
10:13 szabgab if that's what you meant ...
10:13 azawawi scintilla?
10:14 azawawi scintilla is Wx::Scintilla
10:14 azawawi scintilla?
10:14 azawawi Hyppolit: scintilla is Wx::Scintilla
10:14 Hyppolit scintilla was unknown
10:14 Hyppolit scintilla is now Wx::Scintilla
10:14 azawawi scintilla?
10:14 Hyppolit scintilla is Wx::Scintilla
10:14 shadowpaste "dolmen" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "Wx::Scintilla configure failure" (7 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/131780
10:15 azawawi dolmen: any chance you could test the latest development of Wx::Scintilla?
10:16 szabgab yeah, first wxFormBuilder dialor done
10:17 szabgab based on Cookbook of bowtie++
10:18 Hyppolit # 916 :  Perl syntax highlighting: highlight interpolated variables and special characters in strings (closed enhancement) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/916#comment:5 ]
10:18 Hyppolit # 916 :  Perl syntax highlighting: highlight interpolated variables and special characters in strings (closed enhancement) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/916#comment:6 ]
10:22 Hyppolit svn: r15439 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15439
10:22 Hyppolit Fixed a missing C++ compilation error
10:22 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/wx-scintilla/include/
10:24 dolmen azawawi: the problem is on my side: I had a problem with my CPAN.pm config: --installdirs was set
10:25 dolmen azawawi: I will have to check if this is related to my recent upgrade of CPAN.pm
10:25 azawawi dolmen: i noticed a couple of unknown reports on that
10:25 azawawi dolmen: interesting
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10:26 azawawi dolmen: what does that upgrade actually do?
10:28 dolmen azawawi: I usually keep makepl_arg and mbuildpl_arg clean because I have set environment PERL_M{BM}_OPT
10:31 Hyppolit svn: r15440 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15440
10:31 Hyppolit Updated release date for 0.21_05 CPAN release
10:31 Hyppolit trunk/Wx-Scintilla/
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10:32 bowtie gm
10:32 szabgab gm bowtie
10:32 szabgab I finished the first Cookbook example
10:33 szabgab Alias: do we have a way for the plugins to say which modules they use so Padre could handle the loading and unloading of modules when we load /unload plugins?
10:33 bowtie szabgab, ok with hands over my ears, marks out of 10 or something like that :)
10:34 szabgab and it is not yet clear to me how one should implement callbacks?
10:34 bowtie Alias, I see the editor just outright failing to highlight vast swathes of documents?
10:34 bowtie all black on white
10:36 zenog azawawi++
10:36 szabgab bowtie: I think we should talk to azawawi about this
10:36 bowtie szabgab, failing to highlight ?
10:37 azawawi zenog: thanks, your tickets are well written.
10:38 szabgab yes bowtie about the highlighting thing
10:38 zenog azawawi: There are plenty more, if you feel inclined ;-)
10:38 szabgab btw bowtie , where am I supposed to add the implementation of the callbacks?
10:38 submersible_toaster braaaaiinz
10:39 azawawi kill zombies... put plants... :)
10:39 azawawi plants vs zombies... :)
10:40 bowtie szabgab, do you mean event handlers, see 02 for public and private , then look at 04 for events with data
10:40 zenog azawawi: Where can I get the latest Wx::Scintilla?
10:40 azawawi zenog: im uploading it as we speak
10:40 bowtie szabgab, I think thats what you are after
10:41 szabgab bowtie: I see the wiki page of that
10:41 azawawi cpanm http://cpan.cpantesters.org/authors/id/A​/AZ/AZAWAWI/Wx-Scintilla-0.21_05.tar.gz
10:41 szabgab but the update_clicked is sill in the generated file that will be overwritten, right?
10:43 azawawi ...
10:43 bowtie szabgab, yes, formbuilder now that the event method must exist, so alias created a marker to make ie MainFB.pm stable, we then have to overload that method and supply the actions.
10:44 azawawi .... Please let me know if you feel Wx::Scintilla development is *production ready* or not ...
10:44 bowtie if you look in MainFB.pm from a zip you will see, I added POD so it's more readable,
10:45 bowtie szabgab, have you viewed the POD for recipe-01 as well
10:46 bowtie szabgab, is that of any help
10:48 azawawi szabgab: Padre syntax checking, highlighting is moving too fast now... with Alias's dwell implementation and better error/Perl highlighting...
10:48 azawawi szabgab: have you noticed the number of daily commits to trunk?
10:49 azawawi my $Padre = 'Padre'; print "$Padre is cool\n";    => highlights $Padre correctly now...
10:56 zenog Exciting times for Padre ;-)
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11:01 Hyppolit # 1292 :  File New Perl 5 Script/template/test crashing in trunk (new defect) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1292#comment:1 ]
11:12 Hyppolit svn: r15441 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15441
11:12 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
11:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
11:13 azawawi szabgab: ping
11:15 Hyppolit svn: r15442 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15442
11:15 Hyppolit Perl tidy
11:15 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Config/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Task/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/ trunk/Padre/xt/
11:24 szabgab I get
11:24 szabgab Can't call method "GetParent" on an undefined value at C:/work/padre/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Role/Main.pm line 79.
11:24 szabgab when trying to show a dialog windows
11:24 szabgab not good
11:24 szabgab anyway azawawi pong
11:25 azawawi szabgab: how about removing that perltidy svn-commits email
11:25 bowtie szabgab, are you saying the cookbooks are now broken?
11:25 azawawi szabgab: it seems to have failed its purpose
11:26 bowtie filp flop
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11:26 szabgab azawawi: I remove it now but I don't know what to do
11:26 szabgab maybe I setup a crontab to just run perltiy and commit back :)
11:28 azawawi nah... just leave as before
11:28 azawawi we discussed it yesterday and Alias said we need a policy-based perltidy
11:28 azawawi something in padre.yml
11:30 szabgab I removed it and need to get back to understand how the dialogs should be built
11:30 azawawi cool thanks
11:31 * azawawi time for some R&R :)
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11:38 asafiss hi
11:38 asafiss solved it
11:38 asafiss It was only a missing package
11:39 asafiss I'll modify the ticket.
11:43 Hyppolit # 1292 :  File New Perl 5 Script/template/test crashing in trunk (new defect) by asafiss  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1292#comment:2 ]
11:45 szabgab bowtie: I think the crash I see seems to be formbuilder not generating code correctly
11:45 szabgab I am still researching a bit
11:46 szabgab asafiss: great. lets see why do we need Template::Tiny
11:47 szabgab it is in our Makefile.PL
11:47 szabgab so maybe you did not run perel Makefile.PL  on trunk and maybe this is a new prereq?
11:48 szabgab otherwise it is unclear to me why yu would not have it
11:49 asafiss I did run the Makefile.pl
11:49 asafiss but
11:50 asafiss I used cpanm first
11:50 asafiss I'll see if I can backtrack here.
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11:52 asafiss the makefile.pl was run without sudo. I'm guessing this might be the reason
11:55 asafiss makes me feel slightly stupid ..
11:59 Hyppolit # 1290 :  Cooking up your own colours for controls and backgrounds is Rude! (new defect) by submersible_toaster  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1290#comment:5 ]
12:06 asafiss Template::Tiny is in the prereqs, but I don't remember seeing any warnings when I ran makefile
12:16 Hyppolit svn: r15443 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15443
12:16 Hyppolit #1290 change alternate colour to be derived.
12:16 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-SVN/lib/Padre/Plugin/SVN/Wx/
12:18 Hyppolit svn: r15444 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15444
12:18 Hyppolit update Changes for SVN plugin
12:18 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-SVN/
12:19 submersible_toaster that's most of the molehills - the two mountains look to be Padre::Wx::Output and HTML windows of all kinds
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12:34 run4flat Hello, I am having trouble installing Padre because, although I have wx v 2.8.11 installed, Alien::wxWidgets can only find 2.6.something.
12:34 run4flat any ideas?
12:35 run4flat OS: Ubuntu 10.10 (I believe)
12:35 run4flat yeah, 10.10
12:55 Hyppolit svn: r15445 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15445
12:55 Hyppolit move compatibility w/ Padre::Wx::Editor
12:55 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Autoformat/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Autoformat/lib/Padre/Plugin/
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13:00 zenog run4flat: Are you sure you only have 2.8.11 installed?
13:00 Alias yo
13:01 Alias Template::Tiny is not a new prereq
13:02 bowtie Alias, 'mod_button_paste' via padre::config missing thats because it's in padre::wx::editor :)
13:02 Alias Probably should be "mid"
13:03 bowtie Alias, it would still be missing, thought :)
13:04 Alias Line 1130
13:04 bowtie line 457 padre wx editor
13:05 Alias Padre::Config 1130
13:07 bowtie Alias, I see that, so I presume that we just need to edit padre wx editor to reflect changes
13:07 Alias yup, it's just a typo
13:07 Hyppolit svn: r15446 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15446
13:07 Hyppolit Typo fix
13:07 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
13:08 bowtie Alias+
13:18 submersible_toaster sugar: ping
13:29 sugar submersible_toaster: yep?
13:29 submersible_toaster i like ur solarize stuff - done any more  ?
13:30 submersible_toaster i have been busy _fudging_ static light alternate list backgrounds out of padre dialogs.  :)
13:31 submersible_toaster bowtie: recent events on trunk i think make a dire mess out of plugins
13:35 sugar no, i don't do anymore, because don't have a time
13:36 sugar i hope in weekend i will spend time with padre-solarized
13:37 bowtie submersible_toaster, yes I am seeing 'GetParent' error, it's really fun
13:37 sugar i don't understand your second phrase, with '_fudging_'
13:38 Alias Did you pass a parent object to ->new?
13:38 Alias ->new($main) is probably a good idea
13:40 bowtie Alias, i think so, but they are all ->new($main) or sub name($main)
13:41 submersible_toaster sugar: by fudge i mean derive an alternate color based on systemsetting .. like darken two of the channels rather than a hardcoded 'ffaaaa' which looks nice only when using a light theme.
13:42 submersible_toaster sugar: do you have commit ?
13:42 asafiss I'll go for some R&R myself
13:43 sugar where did you find 'ffaaaa'?
13:45 submersible_toaster sugar: i think that was the alternate 'not found' background for fast find.
13:45 submersible_toaster the list alternates were a blue tint of white
13:45 submersible_toaster eeeeff
13:45 submersible_toaster or something
13:47 submersible_toaster Alias: wtf is a TaskHandle inbox ?
13:47 Alias Say what now?
13:48 Alias oh
13:48 Alias It's stolen from erlang
13:48 submersible_toaster what are the chances of getting some pod in there
13:48 Alias It's probably a good idea hey
13:49 submersible_toaster how can the foreground discover the threadid of a task...
13:50 submersible_toaster I can get at it's queue
13:50 submersible_toaster i think
13:50 Alias You don't
13:50 Alias You just $handle->message() it
13:50 submersible_toaster both sides call the same thing?
13:50 submersible_toaster oh god
13:50 Alias Yup :)
13:51 submersible_toaster so what is all the OWNER , STATUS guff? which side does that work on
13:51 Alias OK, so here's the basic
13:51 Alias There is a task object
13:51 Alias It gets copied down into the worker
13:51 Alias Now you have two copies
13:51 sugar submersible_toaster: i undestand you, but i don't know does exist way to do it via colorcscheme
13:51 sugar submersible_toaster: do you know?
13:52 Alias Each copy is a twin of the other one
13:52 Alias One twin can ->message('...') the other one
13:52 submersible_toaster sugar: not currently. the style files only change the code editor panel colours
13:52 Alias The first parameter to message is a method name if I recall
13:52 Alias So to trigger a method in your twin, you ->message('methodname', @params)
13:52 sugar and it will be nice to define color of horizntal bar (current line)  via colorscheme
13:53 sugar submersible_toaster: it's sad
13:53 Alias So there's the basic
13:53 Alias And then there's a couple of magic message types
13:53 Alias STATUS is mainly a convenience
13:54 Alias ->message('STATUS' => 'foo') will shortcut around all the normal logic and put whatever 'foo' is into the status bar of the main window
13:54 Alias Which is how Find in Files does the fast-updating status shit
13:54 Alias The ownership system is a bit more special
13:54 Alias So basically, tasks support "owners"
13:55 Alias The owner of a task is an arbitrary object that the task belongs to
13:55 Alias If the task is created with an owner, then when the task finishes it will be sent to the owner for post-shutdown handling
13:56 Alias Likewise, if the owner is deleted, the task automatically gets sent a 'cancel' message, and any finishing task will just be silently discarded
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13:56 Alias The owner also gets some convenience methods to say "Cancel everything running in the background I own"
13:56 Alias Hence, Padre::Wx::Syntax::view_stop
13:57 Alias When you close the syntax window, the bottom container calls view_stop on it
13:57 Alias That causes the syntax window to abandon all it's tasks
13:57 Alias Which sends cancel messages down to any running tasks
13:57 Alias But yeah... pod...
13:58 submersible_toaster so how as the child thread do i determine that a message has arrived?
13:58 Alias So in the running background task, ->message('OWNER' => ... ) is a way to call a method in the owner of the task instead of the task itself
13:58 submersible_toaster good
13:58 Alias The child checks it's inbox
13:59 Alias Ala erlang
13:59 submersible_toaster so polling
13:59 Alias We know the child is probably off doing blocking stuff
13:59 submersible_toaster hence why i want the tid of the task
13:59 Alias So you can what?
13:59 Alias You aren't supposed to know
14:00 Alias You aren't even supposed to know if the task is running in a thread or on some other computer
14:00 Alias So we can (eventually) send a task through swarm to execute on another host
14:00 submersible_toaster without some way to wake the damn thing up...latency or CPU will suffer
14:01 Alias There is that...
14:02 Alias That's one problem I don't really have an answer for atm
14:02 Alias If the child is just doing work for the parent, it's no problem
14:03 Alias Idle just becomes block on queue
14:03 Alias Hence the need for a specialised service mechanism extending it somehow
14:05 submersible_toaster IIRC there _was_ one of those
14:05 submersible_toaster :D
14:06 Alias I'm not sure it was free of this problem
14:06 Alias For the moment, I choose latency
14:06 Alias 50ms
14:06 Alias The dequeue shouldn't be too expensive
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14:10 submersible_toaster hi user_5431
14:13 submersible_toaster BOO
14:15 bowtie Alias, I found my typo, thanks
14:21 * Alias bed
14:21 Alias submersible_mib, mdm deployment in the morning, ugh
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14:54 azawawi ping-o
15:05 Hyppolit svn: r15447 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15447
15:05 Hyppolit the makings of a simpler swarm client
15:05 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/Swarm/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/​Padre/Plugin/Swarm/Transport/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/t/
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15:12 Hyppolit svn: r15448 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15448
15:12 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
15:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
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15:48 bowtie submersible_toaster, ping
15:51 bowtie submersible_toaster, is there a function to get the names of Padre open files, ie filename, filelocation, and weather file needs to be saved, for all openfiles,
15:57 submersible_toaster bowtie: might be - i really do no know
15:59 bowtie submersible_toaster, thanks, I will bang the drum at someone else later
16:00 Hyppolit svn: r15449 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15449
16:00 Hyppolit local multicast transport simplified
16:00 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/​Padre/Plugin/Swarm/Transport/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/t/
16:07 Hyppolit svn: r15450 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15450
16:07 Hyppolit remove pointless event registration , update tests
16:07 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/Padre/Plugin/Swarm/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/lib/​Padre/Plugin/Swarm/Transport/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/t/
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21:38 spacechicken hi. I'm trying to install Padre 0.88 on ubuntu 10.04. Test t/27_task_signal.t consistently fails. Any suggestions?
21:41 shlomif spacechicken: hmm...
21:42 shlomif spacechicken: is 10.04 LTS?
21:43 bowtie cpan force install Padre
21:43 bowtie or no-test
21:51 spacechicken thanks bowtie
21:51 spacechicken I'm trying to figure out the cause of the error though
21:51 spacechicken and yes - it is 10.04 LTS
21:53 bowtie spacechicken, have you looked at : http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/DownloadUbuntu
21:58 kelem let me know if you find a cure. I opened a ticket in track earlier today
21:58 kelem good night
22:28 submersible_toaster spacechicken:  10.10 has inconsistent failures of that test... looks like a race.
22:29 bowtie submersible_toaster, which can first the test or Padre mod?
22:29 bowtie can -> came
22:29 submersible_toaster bowtie: <shrug>
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22:31 bowtie submersible_toaster, sorry, it's a test driven dev type theory question :)
22:47 dolmen can't type a space in the current trunk
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22:54 submersible_toaster dolmen: are you sure you are totally up to date?
22:54 bowtie snap
22:55 submersible_toaster :D
22:55 dolmen yes: I just did svn update ; make clean ; perl Makefile.PL ; make ; rm -Rf .padre ; ./dev
22:55 tome haha howdy all
22:55 * tome sees a snap
22:55 tome howdy bowtie
22:56 bowtie hi tome
22:56 submersible_toaster dolmen: works for me ?
22:56 submersible_toaster can u describe further
22:56 bowtie and me
22:58 dolmen the space key does not work in the editor.
22:59 bowtie dolmen, you do mean the long key at bottom of keyboard,            like so, same in padre            ;)
22:59 * dolmen wanted to try in a dialog, and it worked, but Padre did not like to have a space in editor_right_margin_column and exited
23:00 dolmen bowtie: yes, that one
23:00 bowtie dolmen, do you mean leading space in a dialog generated by p-p-formbuilder
23:01 dolmen Setting 'editor_right_margin_column' to non-posint '80 ' at /home/dolmen/Code/Perl/cpan/Padre/bli​b/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/Preferences.pm line 258
23:01 bowtie dolman, mono spaced font?
23:03 dolmen bowtie: default font: "Ubuntu 11"
23:03 dolmen it's not a monospaced one
23:03 bowtie dolmen, switch to courier 10 and retest
23:04 dolmen still no space
23:04 dolmen this is not a display problem
23:05 dolmen the cursor position does not advance in the status bar when I press space
23:07 bowtie dolmen, you need to talk to either Alias or azawawi
23:16 Hyppolit # 1294 :  Space in text field for pref "editor_right_margin_colum" stops Padre (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1294 ]
23:23 Hyppolit svn: r15451 | dolmen++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15451
23:23 Hyppolit Add Devel::TraceUse feature to 'dev' with --use
23:23 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
23:24 dolmen you can now try "./dev --use=INC.txt"
23:24 dolmen and look at INC.txt once Padre is closed
23:25 bowtie what are we looking for?
23:25 dolmen this commit is not related to the previous discussion
23:26 bowtie which?
23:28 dolmen the latest commit just above and my explanation of it just below are not related to the discussion about the space bar bug
23:29 bowtie ok
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23:38 Hyppolit svn: r15452 | dolmen++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15452
23:38 Hyppolit More Storable tests
23:38 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/t/
23:58 Hyppolit svn: r15453 | dolmen++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15453
23:58 Hyppolit Improve "Dump %INC" in Dev plugin: add order and $VERSION
23:58 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/

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