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IRC log for #padre, 2011-08-13

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00:18 Hyppolit svn: r15454 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15454
00:18 Hyppolit Moved external_diff_tool setting to bin_diff and added new bin_shell option
00:18 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/FBP/
00:43 submersible_toaster Alias: i'm trying to steal t/2?_task_*.t for swarm service testing...
00:46 submersible_toaster and TaskManager tests fail .. same test>?
00:47 Hyppolit svn: r15455 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15455
00:47 Hyppolit steal a taskmanager test from Padre/t
00:47 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/t/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/t/lib/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/t/lib/Padre/
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01:09 Hyppolit svn: r15456 | dolmen++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15456
01:09 Hyppolit Renamme dev.pl to dev in Padre::Manual::Hacking
01:09 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Manual/
01:20 submersible_toaster pastbot?
01:20 submersible_toaster pastebot?
01:20 Hyppolit pastebot is http://www.pastebot.net/ and also http://paste.scsys.co.uk/
01:21 submersible_toaster Alias: should a task child use ->dequeue_nb during ->run() ?? http://www.pastebot.net/paste/nbt4Vy2njdf/raw/
02:02 Hyppolit svn: r15457 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15457
02:02 Hyppolit Remove Padre::Wx::Editor::_color and convert to using the identical Padre::Wx::color
02:02 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
02:25 Hyppolit svn: r15458 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15458
02:25 Hyppolit Pass the config object down through the stack of editor styling methods
02:25 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
02:50 Hyppolit svn: r15459 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15459
02:50 Hyppolit Padre::Wx::Editor->config will pick up the project's custom config if applicable.
02:50 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
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02:53 Hyppolit svn: r15460 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15460
02:53 Hyppolit Make sure Padre::Wx::Editor always consistently uses it's own ->config method to get the configuration
02:53 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
02:55 submersible_toaster Alias: should a task child use ->dequeue_nb during ->run() ?? http://www.pastebot.net/paste/nbt4Vy2njdf/raw/
02:56 submersible_toaster this api is driving me mad
03:00 Alias I think there's a method missing
03:00 submersible_toaster it _Looks_ like you mean to be doing shambolic referinceing with ->wid and ->hid
03:00 submersible_toaster and in other places expecting that ->handle or ->worker is 'the real thing'
03:00 submersible_toaster ref-rinsing
03:01 submersible_toaster :D - POD is missing
03:02 Alias Well the Handle class IS there to deal with the ugly internals and prevent the Task from having to know about them
03:02 Alias Most of the stuff in Handle is for the benefit of the Worker or Manager
03:04 submersible_toaster I think i'm onto some of the bugs
03:04 submersible_toaster hold on
03:05 Alias But yeah, Task->dequeue_nb looks like the best option
03:07 Alias ok, this is a bit more complicated than I remember
03:09 Alias And according to badcode.t a couple of methods cannot possible do anything
03:09 Alias I can't see how the dequeue and dequeue_nb methods can possibly work
03:10 Alias They call ->handle on themselves, which doesn't exist
03:10 Alias I suspect the inbox system is pretty non-functional atm, aside from ->cancel
03:11 Alias I have to go to Wollongong now, but I'll take the laptop and play with it if I get a chance
03:12 Hyppolit svn: r15461 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15461
03:12 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
03:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
03:43 submersible_toaster Alias: there are about 7 different and unusual versions of dequeue_nb hiding in there
03:43 submersible_toaster 3 layers of dequeue_nb from task - > handle -> taskqueue
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04:59 submersible_toaster hi waxhead
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07:45 waxhead hey submersible_toaster
07:46 waxhead how broken is trunk?  I'm thinking that double return thing on a blank line in 0.88 is bad enough that we should have a 0.90 out sooner rather than later
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09:02 kelem hi
09:15 Hyppolit svn: r15462 | dolmen++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15462
09:15 Hyppolit Update french translation
09:15 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
09:36 submersible_toaster waxhead: im not using trunk to heavy but it seems ok to me
09:56 Hyppolit svn: r15463 | dolmen++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15463
09:56 Hyppolit Fixes in menu labels:
09:56 Hyppolit - add _ shortcut to File and Tools menu (TODO others menus)
09:56 Hyppolit - add ... to menu labels leading to a dialog
09:56 Hyppolit
09:56 Hyppolit Sorry to translators, but that has to be done for consistency.
09:56 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Plugin/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
09:57 dolmen karma dolmen
09:57 Hyppolit Karma of dolmen is 22
09:58 dolmen I expect to lower soon due to this commit :(
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10:11 bowtie dolmen... cool
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11:12 Hyppolit svn: r15464 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15464
11:12 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
11:12 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
11:24 bowtie szabgab, you have been reflecting
11:44 Sewi szabgab is doing what you called white camel stuff, a brother of Hyppolit is updating the messages.pot :)
11:45 bowtie Sewi, thanks
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13:18 Hyppolit svn: r15465 | dolmen++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15465
13:18 Hyppolit Finish 'dev.pl' => 'dev'
13:18 Hyppolit The dev script was included in release 0.88 as MANIFEST.SKIP had not been fixed.
13:18 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/
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13:59 Hyppolit # 1295 :  Taskbar icon is blurry on Ubuntu with Unity desktop (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1295 ]
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16:06 Hyppolit svn: r15466 | dolmen++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15466
16:06 Hyppolit Fix #1295: blurry icon in Unity taskbar
16:06 Hyppolit The main application icon (Padre::Wx::Icon::PADRE) is now 64x64.
16:06 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/
16:09 Hyppolit # 1295 :  Taskbar icon is blurry on Ubuntu with Unity desktop (closed defect) by dolmen  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1295#comment:1 ]
16:11 bowtie dolmen, ping
16:12 dolmen pong
16:13 bowtie dolmen, have you tested this with with icons set at 32?
16:13 dolmen There is currently no 32x32 icon in the repo.
16:14 dolmen (except inside padre.ico)
16:14 bowtie dolmen, but unity menu lets you size from approx 28 - 400 i think
16:15 dolmen "28 - 400" ? I don't understand
16:16 bowtie dolmen, a user can change the size of the menu bar on left hand side
16:17 dolmen I don't know how to do that
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16:29 Topic for #padre is now Latest Padre is 0.88 - For installation see http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Download | Log: http://perlide.org/irclogs/ and http://irclog.perlgeek.de/padre/today | Pasting: http://scsys.co.uk:8001
16:29 Sewi dolmen, bowtie: You seem to be icon experts :-) Any ideas about those lose fold icons?
16:33 bowtie Sewi, I am not an expert, I just hate it when some use icon.xxx as you get really ****ed when you are look, hence I think all images should have a meaningful name and be a png,   so if dolmen has swapped out the ubuntu icon for a 64x64 padre.png thats really cool with me
16:34 bowtie look -> looking
16:36 Hyppolit # 89 :  shell script on OS X (new defect) by Sewi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/89#comment:2 ]
16:37 dolmen Sewi: it looks like Padre was using a 16x16 icon for the Padre::Wx::Main window
16:38 dolmen Sewi: yes I can now say I'm an expert at icons: I helped to fix the taskbar icons for Padre on the two platforms that matters to me: Windows 7 and Ubuntu Natty
16:38 bowtie dolmen, i did this to docky a while back,
16:39 dolmen what is docky?
16:39 bowtie hail to the expert, dolmen :)
16:41 Sewi dolmen: Do you have a second to look at #1291?
16:41 Hyppolit # 1291 :  Code folding icons missing (new defect) by Sewi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1291#comment:1 ]
16:41 bowtie dolmen, if you have a old graphics card, you will run natty in 2d mode, docky is a graphical menu that looks like mac, much faster than unity, plus you still get to keep all the gnome pannel stuff
16:41 dolmen now, if Padre could be used as an editor, that would be better. Currently the broken autocompletion stops me from being able to type anything useful
16:42 Sewi broken autocomplete?
16:44 dolmen space bar at the end of the text doesn't work, and if I put the cursor in the middle of a word the space it it repeats some characters before the cursor or suggest autocompletion
16:45 Sewi Which OS?
16:49 Hyppolit # 1291 :  Code folding icons missing (new defect) by dolmen  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1291#comment:2 ]
16:52 Sewi dolmen: Any idea for solving this? :)
16:54 Hyppolit # 1297 :  Ubuntu Natty: default font is not monospaced (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1297 ]
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17:06 kelem is there a workaround for ticket #1293, cpan upgrade failed is a bit more annoying than a blurry icon :). I'd like to tell this to Pete Lavender, but I don't know its nickname, is he there?
17:06 Hyppolit # 1293 :  task signal test failed during CPAN Upgrade (0.86 to 0.88) (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1293 ]
17:07 Sewi type "force install Padre"
17:08 kelem I was about to do this after looking at the possible origin of the problem in t/27_task_signal.t .  I hope force install is harmless :)
17:09 bowtie or no-test
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17:10 kelem yes, force install is always possible as there's no real problems with compilation
17:11 kelem i'm just a bit worry Padre won't be usable after a forced install
17:12 Sewi Fails here, too and Padre is running
17:13 kelem thanks for the information... no remorse, i'll force it :)
17:13 Sewi thanks for pointing me at this, I'll do some more tests
17:13 Hyppolit # 1293 :  task signal test failed during CPAN Upgrade (0.86 to 0.88) (new defect) by Sewi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1293#comment:1 ]
17:17 kelem you're welcome
17:18 kelem my cpan panics on a force upgrade (looks like some meta file corruption), but as soon as this problem is solved, I'll give this version a real try
17:26 bowtie Sewi, you do realise 0.88 is not installable by average user, on linux :)
17:29 kelem tsss :) I confirm that padre launch after  a forced install
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18:30 Hyppolit # 1293 :  task signal test failed during CPAN Upgrade (0.86 to 0.88) (new defect) by dolmen  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1293#comment:2 ]
18:32 Hyppolit # 89 :  shell script on OS X (new defect) by schwern  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/89#comment:3 ]
18:36 Hyppolit # 1293 :  task signal test failed during CPAN Upgrade (0.86 to 0.88) (new defect) by dolmen  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1293#comment:3 ]
18:53 Hyppolit # 1276 :  Compilation of padre.exe triggers virus warning (new defect) by dolmen  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1276#comment:5 ]
18:54 Hyppolit # 1276 :  Compilation of padre.exe triggers virus warning (new defect) by dolmen  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1276#comment:6 ]
19:08 Hyppolit svn: r15467 | dolmen++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15467
19:08 Hyppolit Fix EOL to Unix in Makefile.PL
19:08 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder/
19:10 bowtie dolmen, ping
19:10 dolmen bowtie: pong
19:12 bowtie is the eol , caused by win users not committing to svn with correct mime type ie svn:mime-type=text/x-perl
19:12 bowtie as in http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/SvnMimeTypes
19:13 dolmen the problem was the file already contained mixed EOL: some Unix, some Windows, so just setting svn:eol-style would not have fixed the problem
19:14 bowtie dolmen, but it probably was the original cause
19:14 dolmen yes
19:15 bowtie dolmen, so I will let you bang the drum about svn:mime-type=text/x-perl
19:17 dolmen there is a bug on the wiki page
19:17 dolmen you can't blame the one that uses it ;)
19:17 dolmen fixing that
19:17 bowtie dolmen, what's the bug
19:17 dolmen svn:mine instead of svn:mime
19:20 Hyppolit wiki page http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/SvnMimeTypes changed by dolmen
19:20 dolmen time to go to eat
19:21 bowtie dolmen, thanks for that, it's what you get when you let a dyslexic lose in wiki
19:29 Hyppolit # 1276 :  Compilation of padre.exe triggers virus warning (new defect) by Sewi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1276#comment:7 ]
19:53 Hyppolit # 1293 :  task signal test failed during CPAN Upgrade (0.86 to 0.88) (new defect) by vrobin  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1293#comment:2.4 ]
20:04 Hyppolit # 1293 :  task signal test failed during CPAN Upgrade (0.86 to 0.88) (new defect) by Sewi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1293#comment:5 ]
20:06 Hyppolit svn: r15468 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15468
20:06 Hyppolit Known Padre exit-with-threads error should not stop installation
20:06 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/t/
20:07 Hyppolit svn: r15469 | Sewi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15469
20:07 Hyppolit Padre should not exit with running threads
20:07 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/xt/
20:08 Hyppolit # 1293 :  task signal test failed during CPAN Upgrade (0.86 to 0.88) (new defect) by Sewi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1293#comment:6 ]
20:08 Hyppolit # 1293 :  task signal test failed during CPAN Upgrade (0.86 to 0.88) (closed defect) by Sewi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1293#comment:7 ]
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20:35 kelem great :)
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23:26 submersible_toaster bowtie: dolmen: there should be a scalable padre icon in Padre-Artwork
23:26 bowtie submersible_toaster, hi
23:27 dolmen submersible_toaster: Padre now uses share/icons/64x64/logo.png instead of .../16x16/...
23:28 bowtie dolmen, can you not change it to padre.png
23:30 dolmen there is no padre.png in the repo
23:30 bowtie dolmen, how about cp logo.png padre.png :)
23:31 dolmen I'll see tomorow: it's 1:30 here
23:31 bowtie your an hour a head of me :)
23:32 dolmen just a little bug to report and => bed
23:33 submersible_toaster ok - if you guys are talking about the ubuntu/gnome type logos ... I suggest adding a scalable/  in addition to 32x32 or whatever other combinations
23:34 submersible_toaster oops - quick menu access is sick again
23:34 bowtie submersible_toaster, I think you will find dolmen solution will be applicable to linux and osx
23:35 dolmen submersible_toaster: the Padre icon is made from a bitmap. No way to make it scalable.
23:36 Hyppolit # 1298 :  Changing font in preferences is not applied to existing editors (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1298 ]
23:36 * dolmen => bed
23:37 submersible_toaster ok - WX does not support it... that does not mean we should not SHIP a scalable icon so that packagers can do the remaining desktop integration with a non-fixed size bitmap
23:38 submersible_toaster for example - the 'Padre' in 10.10 ubuntu software centre has a dinky little 16x16 icon - there is space for ~64x64 , if a scalable were available it may have been used and worked in all treatments
23:39 bowtie dolmen, sub needs to remove his ms blinkers, a perl program should not be capped by ms 16x16 .bmp called a logo :(
23:40 bowtie dolmen as for padre graphics, have you tried: locate padre |grep -P png$
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23:45 submersible_toaster plplplplplp
23:45 bowtie submersible_toaster, ?
23:47 bowtie submersible_toaster, can you run debug against a Plugin ?
23:52 submersible_toaster i usually litter my plugins with TRACE( ) during dev. but i guess you could use debugger... debugging thread tasks is a no-no i think
23:53 submersible_toaster hehe , the original padre logo svg is only 900Kb ...
23:53 bowtie submersible_toaster, can you put Padre into a no tread mode
23:53 submersible_toaster maybe it should stay in Padre-Artwork and we encourage packagers to look there
23:53 submersible_toaster bowtie: I have no idea
23:54 bowtie svg are such fun, the 900k would have been an auto gen image :)
23:55 bowtie have you ever used eclipse for debugging
23:58 bowtie night

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