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IRC log for #padre, 2011-09-02

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01:26 Hyppolit svn: r15901 | bowtie++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15901
01:26 Hyppolit changed About dialogs to ShowModal
01:26 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Cookbook/lib/​Padre/Plugin/Cookbook/Recipe03/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-Cookbook/lib/​Padre/Plugin/Cookbook/Recipe04/
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06:05 zenog good morning everyone
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06:09 submersible_mib has anyone ever tried to get access to the art provider for AuiManager ? The accessor does not appear to exist
06:10 Hyppolit svn: r15902 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15902
06:10 Hyppolit remove 'Duplicate' and 'Delete' menu entries from 'File' menu
06:10 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
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06:31 sewi_work gm all
06:37 zenog hi sewi_work
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06:51 sewi_work hi zenog
06:51 sewi_work Do you have any copy/paste problems on trunk?
06:55 zenog sewi_work: Inside Padre, or with other programs?
06:56 zenog sewi_work: Currently, everything seems to work, but there are so many different ways of doing c+p ...
06:56 sewi_work inside Padre, #1312
06:56 Hyppolit # 1312 :  Mouse (Ubuntu) Copy Paste X-Clipboard (new defect) by emilbarton  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1312#comment:9 ]
06:59 zenog sewi_work: will try to reproduce it
06:59 sewi_work thx
07:02 zenog sewi_work: So, the error is that double-click-select does not copy?
07:02 sewi_work the error is that the clipboard buffer is lost within Padre.
07:03 zenog sewi_work: I mean not the explanation, but the user-observable phenomenon.
07:03 sewi_work I tried to copy few lines yesterday, scrolled around in this ugly 10k lines file for half a minute or so, used Ctrl-G and the buffer was empty when I arrived at the final place where it should be pasted.
07:05 zenog Ctrl-G?
07:08 sewi_work goto line #
07:10 Hyppolit svn: r15903 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15903
07:10 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
07:10 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
07:13 zenog okay
07:14 sewi_work I'll be home tonight and check the versions of my desktop PC there, because it doesn't happen on it.
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07:28 zenog hi mj41
07:29 mj41 zenog: hi, my new CPAN/PAUSE id is 'MJFO'
07:35 zenog mj41: cool, will change the Changes file accordingly ;-)
07:36 zenog mj41: so you plan to release your plugin soon?
07:37 mj41 zenog: yes, but not sure how much soon :-)
07:38 Hyppolit svn: r15904 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15904
07:38 Hyppolit Changes: mj41 to MJFO
07:38 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
07:39 zenog mj41: Could it be useful for someone besides yourself? If so, why not release it? I don't think you are ashamed of the code, otherwise you would not put it on github ;-)
07:40 mj41 yes, but there is some work to make it work for normal users (not author)
07:42 Hyppolit svn: r15905 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15905
07:42 Hyppolit fully remove delete/duplicate from File menu
07:42 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Menu/
07:42 zenog mj41: OK
07:46 zenog Some messages tests are currently failing. Is there again a problem with gettext?
07:46 zenog Can anyone else run "make test" on trunk?
07:48 El_Che_ hi zenog
07:50 zenog hi claudio
07:50 zenog what's up?
07:51 El_Che_ busy busy as always
07:52 El_Che_ (running make now)
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08:16 zenog El_Che_: any results for "make test"?
08:20 zenog If there is anybody here who is looking for ways to make a small contribution to Padre, I have plenty of ideas for things to be done ...
08:20 El_Che_ sorry
08:20 El_Che_ had a visitor
08:20 El_Che_ let me look
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08:21 El_Che_ The db developers seems to have found me as their unix guru
08:21 El_Che_ lol
08:21 El_Che_ zenog: 16 is failing
08:22 zenog El_Che_: okay, same here.
08:22 zenog I guess I will file a bug report ...
08:24 zenog El_Che_:  looks a lot like #1132
08:24 Hyppolit # 1132 :  missing strings in 'messages.pot' (closed defect) by szabgab  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1132#comment:4 ]
08:25 zenog El_Che_: which platform are you? xgettext --version?
08:25 El_Che_ gettext (GNU gettext-tools) 0.18.1
08:25 El_Che_ x
08:27 zenog okay, but you use the messages.pot from SVN, right?
08:27 El_Che_ i did a svn update of trunk
08:28 Hyppolit # 1132 :  missing strings in 'messages.pot' (closed defect) by zenogantner  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1132#comment:5 ]
08:28 Hyppolit # 1316 :  Ctrl+click do not open Perl module if clicked on full method/sub name (new defect) by zenogantner  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1316#comment:1 ]
08:29 zenog El_Che_: OK. Thanks for verifying that it is not only on my computer ;-)
09:03 Hyppolit svn: r15906 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15906
09:03 Hyppolit RegexEditor: fix some comments
09:03 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
09:09 Hyppolit svn: r15907 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15907
09:09 Hyppolit update_pot_file.pl: add --verbose and --nocleanup for easier debugging
09:09 Hyppolit trunk/tools/
09:10 Hyppolit svn: r15908 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15908
09:10 Hyppolit update Changes file
09:10 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
09:13 Hyppolit svn: r15909 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15909
09:13 Hyppolit update Changes file
09:13 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
09:30 Hyppolit # 1171 :  Regex Editor highlighting seems to be broken (accepted defect) by zenogantner  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1171#comment:8 ]
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09:32 Hyppolit # 1171 :  Regex Editor highlighting seems to be broken (accepted defect) by zenogantner  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1171#comment:9 ]
09:36 Hyppolit svn: r15910 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15910
09:36 Hyppolit regex editor: insert m// operator when replace field is not visible
09:36 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
09:38 Hyppolit svn: r15911 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15911
09:38 Hyppolit reregex editor: highlight matched text in blue instead of red
09:38 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/ trunk/Padre/lib/Padre/Wx/Dialog/
09:50 Hyppolit # 1302 :  Deparse feature and Moose (new defect) by szabgab  new attachment [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1302#comment:1 ]
09:50 Hyppolit # 1302 :  Deparse feature and Moose (new defect) by zenogantner  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1302#comment:2 ]
09:50 zenog hi bowtie
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09:54 Hyppolit # 1171 :  Regex Editor highlighting seems to be broken (accepted defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1171#comment:10 ]
10:01 Hyppolit # 1171 :  Regex Editor highlighting seems to be broken (accepted defect) by zenogantner  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1171#comment:11 ]
10:03 Hyppolit # 1171 :  Regex Editor highlighting seems to be broken (accepted defect) by bowtie  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1171#comment:12 ]
10:15 zenog bowtie: Looks like a wx bug, if you ask me ...
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10:22 bowtie zenog, hi, it only happens for me on ubuntu i386, did not on debian amd64, before rip, :)
10:24 zenog bowtie: Same versions?
10:27 bowtie zenog, debian is now dead :(
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10:37 bowtie zenog, motherboard failure :)
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10:57 zenog bowtie: :-(
10:58 bowtie zenog, plugin_enable ?
11:03 zenog bowtie: I thought about that. I think the search paths should be adjustable.
11:03 zenog That is, there should be a settings dialog where you can set this.
11:03 zenog For the settings dialog to work, the plugin must be enabled.
11:04 zenog Therefore it is not such a good idea to not allow the plugin to start only because pdflatex is not found.
11:04 zenog Also, users may still want to use e.g. the LaTeX autocompletion, even if they cannot build the document from within Padre.
11:06 bowtie zenog, I could only test against ubuntu, so thats the only path I added, but you can add more, as to the error message that should come from plugin manager, I get what Alias is trying to do, just needs a plugin like LaTeX to get rid of sharpe cornners :)
11:07 Alias yup
11:08 bowtie zenog, but there is no indication in plugin of that feature being enabled or disabled bassed upon external app
11:08 Alias Doesn't need to be
11:08 Alias So long as if you try to use it it pops up an error message
11:08 Alias Or at least, that should be the minimum
11:10 bowtie Alias, are you now saying this is optional if you test internally within your Plugin, as long as you don't assume it's there
11:10 Hyppolit svn: r15912 | szabgab++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15912
11:10 Hyppolit Update the messages.pot file
11:10 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/share/locale/
11:10 Alias You can do anything you like
11:10 Alias If you plugin is useful, but has optional extra features, makes sense to allow it to be enabled
11:10 Alias If your plugin...
11:11 Alias FormBuilder for example
11:11 Alias Right now, it reads wxFormBuilder save files
11:11 Alias But doesn't actually require the application
11:11 Alias Maybe in future it will auto-launch the application for whatever .fbp file the current document is contained in
11:11 Alias That would need the app
11:12 Alias But should it not load at all, just because part of the functionality isn't there?
11:12 Alias Hell, I'd be happy to make the plugin assist you to install the app
11:13 bowtie Alias, but at present plugin is disabled if plugin_enable fails, by plugin manager
11:14 Alias right
11:15 bowtie Alias, so if you assume the external app is present you should use plugin_enable
11:16 Alias why assume?
11:16 Alias No reason you can't test for it, just don't fail completely if it's not there
11:16 Alias Use it to change your menu structure or display a warning in the dialog content
11:17 bowtie Alias, but at present PluginManager fails to load a plugin if plugin_enable returns 0
11:20 bowtie Alias, would it not be better if PluginManager requested an override dialog to let user install even if remote app is not present?
11:23 bowtie 1, this would protect Padre
11:23 bowtie 2, user can install app later
11:24 bowtie 3, Plugin developer is free do what they want
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12:55 Alias The plugin is not allowed to be interactive during plugin_enable
13:04 zenog Does anyone want to write a GPG plugin for Padre? It would be neat to be able to encrypt stuff inside Padre ... ;-)
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14:21 bowtie Alias, lets try again, on plugin_enable fail, the Plugin Manager offers the user the opportunity to install plugin now and suggest they read POD and install dependency later
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19:08 shadowpaste "kaare" at 217.168.150.38 pasted "padre 0.90 segfaults" (9 lines) at http://paste.scsys.co.uk/139645
19:09 kaare Padre 0.90 hangs and then segfaults if there is no t/lib directory.
19:11 kaare Anything above "use Test::Class..." is actually not necessary to provoke the error.
19:11 kaare Anybody seeing the same?
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22:38 Hyppolit svn: r15913 | dolmen++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15913
22:38 Hyppolit The on_right_click to on_context_menu change is breaking the API.
22:38 Hyppolit (But none of the plugins in the Padre SVN repo use it anyway)
22:38 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
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22:53 Hyppolit # 1132 :  missing strings in 'messages.pot' (reopened defect) by zenogantner  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1132#comment:6 ]
22:58 Hyppolit # 1132 :  missing strings in 'messages.pot' (reopened defect) by zenogantner  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1132#comment:7 ]
23:04 dolmen zenog: are you working on the fix?
23:04 dolmen I can do it instead, as I broke the trunk.
23:05 Hyppolit svn: r15914 | zenogantner++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/15914
23:05 Hyppolit fix t/16_messages.t to account for changes by dolmen
23:05 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/t/
23:06 Hyppolit # 1132 :  missing strings in 'messages.pot' (closed defect) by zenogantner  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1132#comment:8 ]
23:08 dolmen zenog++
23:08 zenog dolmen: You did not break the trunk; your changes just 'broke' the tests, i.e. the tests were not up to date any more.
23:08 zenog dolmen: no big deal
23:09 zenog dolmen: Thank you for adding the new short cuts, btw. dolmen++

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