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IRC log for #padre, 2011-09-26

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00:46 Hyppolit svn: r16467 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/16467
00:46 Hyppolit adjustments to margin icons
00:46 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/sha​re/icons/padre/12x12/margin/
00:51 Hyppolit svn: r16468 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/16468
00:51 Hyppolit more icon adjustments
00:51 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/sha​re/icons/padre/12x12/margin/
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02:54 Hyppolit svn: r16469 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/16469
02:54 Hyppolit Adding form section for generate all main files
02:54 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder​/lib/Padre/Plugin/FormBuilder/
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03:18 Hyppolit svn: r16470 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/16470
03:18 Hyppolit Basic hooking up of the "Complete Wx Application" generation, although currently it will only generate the FBP classes
03:18 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder/ trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder​/lib/Padre/Plugin/FormBuilder/
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03:38 Hyppolit svn: r16471 | submersible_toaster++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/16471
03:38 Hyppolit fluff - mostly trace
03:38 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-Swarm/sha​re/icons/padre/12x12/margin/
03:38 submersible_work oops
03:38 submersible_work svn-commit.2.tmp turds in my working copy
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06:37 submersible_work braaaaainz
06:38 submersible_work has a release been discussed ? - I saw some chatter about pushing out cpan dev releases ...
07:02 Hyppolit svn: r16472 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/16472
07:02 Hyppolit Bug fixing
07:02 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder​/lib/Padre/Plugin/FormBuilder/
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07:28 Ranguard szabgab: your poll site is blocked by websense @ my office!
07:30 Alias_ URL?
07:30 Alias_ Probably blocked at mine too
07:30 Ranguard http://perlpolls.com/perl-news
07:30 Alias_ Good at mine so far
07:31 Alias_ Also websense
07:34 Ranguard wierd, it's not in their block list according to their website
07:34 szabgab Ranguard: what could be blocekd, the domain name?
07:35 Ranguard maybe they've got some specific policy here, they're mostly MS worshipers, probably set it up to block 'Perl' or something :)
07:35 szabgab it is hosted on the same machine as all of my other sites (eg szabgab.com)
07:35 szabgab or the javascript in it?
07:35 Ranguard I can get to szabgab.com
07:35 Ranguard I'll ask the network guys to find out and let me know
07:36 szabgab thanks
07:39 Ranguard szabgab: seen my hello_world for windoz video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cupB4XOU84 :) ?
07:39 * Ranguard is just waiting for Ask/Robert to put the learn.perl.org site live now
07:43 szabgab so can I send it out to the list?
07:44 szabgab crap, something happend to irssi
07:45 szabgab could someone pls check what mistakes did I make this time ?http://perlweekly.com/archive/9.html
07:45 szabgab http://perlweekly.com/archive/9.html
07:45 Ranguard szabgab: If you can wait until the website is live - then send that out to the list
07:46 szabgab that would be another half a day right?
07:46 Ranguard "I run a poll asking you" -> "I am running a poll asking you"
07:46 Ranguard szabgab: I asked 5 days ago :(
07:47 Ranguard put "What articles would you like to read?" either in quotes or italics
07:47 szabgab then I'll include it in the one that comes right after the actual change to live :)
07:47 Ranguard yea - thanks
07:47 waxhead how funny.. I got through at work..and they block everything...
07:47 waxhead even mibbit
07:48 Ranguard " his vision how perl 5 will" -> " his vision how Perl 5 will" (capital P)
07:49 waxhead so, developer releases?
07:49 waxhead are we going to do that with Padre?
07:50 szabgab the lovely thing is that Gmail puts the Perl Weekly now in the spam folder
07:50 szabgab when I am sending it to myself
07:51 Ranguard szabgab: not sure I'd mention Plack::Test::Agent - it's not on CPAN and is still experimental *shrug*
07:52 szabgab I am experiementing :)
07:53 szabgab waxhead: from that mail it seems that your e-mail service is blocked :)
07:54 szabgab or was blocked at one point
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08:13 Hyppolit svn: r16473 | adamk++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/16473
08:13 Hyppolit More bug fixing
08:13 Hyppolit trunk/Padre-Plugin-FormBuilder​/lib/Padre/Plugin/FormBuilder/
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08:43 bowtie gm
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10:45 Hyppolit # 1331 :  Specially Handle Escaped characters (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1331 ]
10:46 Hyppolit # 1331 :  Specially Handle Escaped characters (new enhancement) new attachment [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1331 ]
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10:53 Hyppolit # 1331 :  Specially Handle Escaped characters (new enhancement) by azawawi  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1331#comment:1 ]
10:55 Hyppolit # 1332 :  Go to Prev/Next Cursor Position (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1332 ]
11:03 Hyppolit # 688 :  Drag and drop not working on windows any more (new defect) by ktaragorn  [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/688#comment:2 ]
11:08 Hyppolit # 1333 :  More understandable Settings : Auto Complete Brackets (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1333 ]
11:13 Hyppolit # 1334 :  Syntax checker could be slower (new enhancement) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1334 ]
11:16 Hyppolit # 1335 :  Double Click Behaviour : Perl sigils and namespace delimiters etc (new defect) [ http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1335 ]
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11:59 submersible_toaster call for swarm tester. particularly multi lingual or unicode concerned
12:03 bowtie submersible_toaster, hi, neither of above, but happy to test :)
12:04 submersible_toaster bowtie: i'd like to examine what's happening with delete of wide char
12:05 submersible_toaster I think some length is getting messed up and so the low or high byte is destroyed leaving a half char
12:06 bowtie submersible_toaster, forgot info, when you closed down connection, pac-man remained in margin :)
12:08 bowtie are you going to force transmission encoding rather than assume user setting, ouch :)
12:09 submersible_toaster bowtie: the swarm message marshalling is JSON w/ utf8 enabled ... but i really dont know what or where the problem occurs
12:14 bowtie have you got a test file with wide charters in, to play with?
12:14 submersible_toaster yup
12:14 bowtie ok I will fire up swarm test mc, back in 5
12:15 submersible_toaster ty
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12:49 bowtie submersible_toaster, back to normal :)
12:53 submersible_toaster very useful test session , bowtie++
12:54 submersible_toaster oops - CRASH
12:54 bowtie submersible_toaster, I am just pleased to help you generated eithereal logs, so you can have some light reading :)
12:54 submersible_toaster how do I unregister a Wx event  I wonder
12:55 bowtie ask  azawawi
12:55 submersible_toaster bowtie: resisting the urge to enable ->prett_print in the json marshal :)
12:56 Hyppolit svn: r16474 | azawawi++ | http://padre.perlide.org/trac/changeset/16474
12:56 Hyppolit Fix typo in Changes
12:56 Hyppolit trunk/Padre/
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12:58 azawawi submersible_toaster: Wx::Event::EVT_IDLE( $self, undef );  # ? :)
12:59 submersible_toaster azawawi: what about when i am not $self
12:59 azawawi submersible_work: basically EVT_IDLE is called ->Connect
13:00 azawawi submersible_toaster: maybe http://docs.wxwidgets.org/2.8/wx_wxevent.html ?
13:01 azawawi bowtie:: im investigating the idea of multi-line diffs
13:01 azawawi bowtie: e.g. you added 3 lines, you get 3 blue lines in the margin ... i.e. similar to NetBeans
13:01 submersible_toaster I think i want ->Unbind
13:03 submersible_toaster erk - that was python - ... Disconnect
13:03 bowtie azawawi, Q1, with dynamic diff and vcs enabled, If another user commits to vcs is dynamic aware that file has changed in repository
13:04 submersible_toaster which probably means i have to stop being lazy using -1 and track id's :(
13:04 azawawi bowtie: feature_vcs_support is not related atm to Padre::Wx::Diff
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13:05 azawawi bowtie: it is an entire experimental feature that i started working before i became busy doing maintenance $work at $home :)
13:06 azawawi bowtie: I hate the way Padre is handling file refresh. Especially the deleted file one...
13:07 Ranguard szabgab: Websense has replied it was incorrectly categroised and will be unblocked within the next 72 hours
13:12 bowtie azawawi, It was just a question/observation, I don't consider it an issue, just an awareness/limitation :)
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13:41 szabgab Ranguard: thanks
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14:35 Hyppolit # 1334 :  Syntax checker could be slower (new enhancement) by szabgab  [ http://padre.perlide.org/t​rac/ticket/1334#comment:1 ]
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21:09 mib_490t71 Hi room I got here looking for solution to missing 'awk' in ubuntu Synaptic I am just a user not a programmer so am I in wrong place?
21:10 PerlJam mib_490t71: probably  :)
21:10 PerlJam mib_490t71: but if you need to install awk,  "sudo apt-get install awk"
21:10 mib_490t71 can u point me please
21:10 PerlJam mib_490t71: (from the command line)
21:11 PerlJam mib_490t71: if you don't have super-user rights, get your sysadmin to install it for you
21:11 mib_490t71 oh so that will work instead of the Synaptic?
21:11 mib_490t71 this private LAN
21:12 mib_490t71 so sudo will get it
21:12 PerlJam mib_490t71: you could use the Synaptic package manager, I just don't have anything to tell you about that right off since I mainly use the command line
21:12 mib_490t71 ok thanks I will try the scary CLI
21:16 mib_490t71 here is my result.... herb@herb-celf:~$ sudo apt-get install awk [sudo] password for herb:  E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? herb@herb-celf:~$ ^C herb@herb-celf:~$
21:17 PerlJam mib_490t71: if you still have Synaptic open, it's likely got a lock
21:17 mib_490t71 Sorry I will close it
21:19 mib_490t71 Ok this is result ... herb@herb-celf:~$ sudo apt-get install awk Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Package awk is a virtual package provided by:   original-awk 2010-05-23-1   mawk 1.3.3-15ubuntu2   gawk 1:3.1.7.dfsg-5 You should explicitly select one to install.  E: Package 'awk' has no installatio
21:22 mib_490t71 I am getting old (81) so need help
21:23 mib_490t71 but have avoided using Windose for 4yrs now
21:24 bowtie install gawk
21:24 mib_490t71 ok thanks bowtie
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21:27 mib_490t71 ok wooohooo got it you guys are great, that has been my experience with Linux. It is reason I have survived for these yrs and i just love Linux thanks a ton
21:30 bowtie mib_490t71,  http://www.icalvyn.com/ubuntu-ebook-collection/
21:38 mib_490t71 Thanks again I will DL the 'for dummies' book .. hehehe wonder if I will live long enough
21:41 bowtie mib_490t71, just for fun: http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9781565922259.do
21:50 mib_490t71 bowie LOL well I don't think I want to learn a language at this age only programming ever was early days mainframe IBM 360 using symbolic. but thanks again for the help in getting past the 'awk' thingy. Have a cool day bro. bye
21:55 submersible_toaster ok - now we expect to see the PDP-10 generation here soon too
21:55 submersible_toaster ?
22:00 bowtie submersible_toaster, whipper snapper :)
22:04 submersible_toaster :D
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